/lit/ - Literature

>>16495797
but can he be synthesized with Guenon (pbuh)?

>>16456354

Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines by Guenon is light on the particulars, but more than makes up for this by describing and eliminating many of the modernist and anti-metaphysical attitudes and positions which many people westerners unconsciously hold and which constitute obstacles to understanding the insights of Hinduism, and which are often even found repeated in the 'academic' books on Hinduism.

>>16022970
No, Whitehead and 'process philosophy were forever destroyed by Rene Guenon

>The same trend is noticeable in the scientific realm: research here is for its own sake far more than for the partial and fragmentary results it achieves; here we see an ever more rapid succession of unfounded theories and hypotheses, no sooner set up than crumbling to give way to others that will have an even shorter life— a veritable chaos amid which one would search in vain for anything definitive, unless it be a monstrous accumulation of facts and details incapable of proving or signifying anything. We refer here of course to speculative science, insofar as this still exists; in applied science there are on the contrary undeniable results, and this is easily understandable since these results bear directly on the domain of matter, the only domain in which modern man can boast any real superiority. It is therefore to be expected that discoveries, or rather mechanical and industrial inventions, will go on developing and multiplying more and more rapidly until the end of the present age; and who knows if, given the dangers of destruction they bear in themselves, they will not be one of the chief agents in the ultimate catastrophe, if things reach a point at which this cannot be averted?

>Be that as it may, one has the general impression that, in the present state of things, there is no longer any stability; but while there are some who sense the danger and try to react to it, most of our contemporaries are quite at ease amid this confusion, in which they see a kind of exteriorized image of their own mentality. Indeed there is an exact correspondence between a world where everything seems to be in a state of mere ‘becoming’, leaving no place for the changeless and the permanent, and the state of mind of men who find all reality in this ‘becoming’, thus implicitly denying true knowledge as well as the object of that knowledge, namely transcendent and universal principles. One can go even further and say that it amounts to the negation of all real knowledge whatsoever, even of a relative order, since, as we have shown above, the relative is unintelligible and impossible without the absolute, the contingent without the necessary, change without the unchanging, and multiplicity without unity; ‘relativism’ is self-contradictory, for, in seeking to reduce everything to change, one logically arrives at a denial of the very existence of change; this was fundamentally the meaning of the famous arguments of Zeno of Elea.

>>15027405
this but unironically
>>15027068
Guenonbro here, I'm not the pizza guy. I do have mixed thoughts on Kashmir Shaivism but would never say anything disparaging about Advaita which the pizza guy did multiple times on /pol/, also as you know I despite Buddhism and would never create an account on dharmawheel like mr pizza did

Guénon (phuh) would defer to a proper Sharia court to carry out the ruling condemning abortion as a profane hylic practice....
He (pbuh) was a man of contemplation, not mere "action".

>>14706819
based

>>14682171
>basically what i'm getting so far is that all of the cultures in the world used to live in peace and harmony because they all essentially believed in the same things, but materialism ruined that.
Yes, such is the way of the Yuga cycle

>>14633669
The same trend is noticeable in the scientific realm: research here is for its own sake far more than for the partial and fragmentary results it achieves; here we see an ever more rapid succession of unfounded theories and hypotheses, no sooner set up than crumbling to give way to others that will have an even shorter life— a veritable chaos amid which one would search in vain for anything definitive, unless it be a monstrous accumulation of facts and details incapable of proving or signifying anything. We refer here of course to speculative science, insofar as this still exists; in applied science there are on the contrary undeniable results, and this is easily understandable since these results bear directly on the domain of matter, the only domain in which modern man can boast any real superiority. It is therefore to be expected that discoveries, or rather mechanical and industrial inventions, will go on developing and multiplying more and more rapidly until the end of the present age; and who knows if, given the dangers of destruction they bear in themselves, they will not be one of the chief agents in the ultimate catastrophe, if things reach a point at which this cannot be averted?

Be that as it may, one has the general impression that, in the present state of things, there is no longer any stability; but while there are some who sense the danger and try to react to it, most of our contemporaries are quite at ease amid this confusion, in which they see a kind of exteriorized image of their own mentality. Indeed there is an exact correspondence between a world where everything seems to be in a state of mere ‘becoming’, leaving no place for the changeless and the permanent, and the state of mind of men who find all reality in this ‘becoming’, thus implicitly denying true knowledge as well as the object of that knowledge, namely transcendent and universal principles. One can go even further and say that it amounts to the negation of all real knowledge whatsoever, even of a relative order, since, as we have shown above, the relative is unintelligible and impossible without the absolute, the contingent without the necessary, change without the unchanging, and multiplicity without unity; ‘relativism’ is self-contradictory, for, in seeking to reduce everything to change, one logically arrives at a denial of the very existence of change; this was fundamentally the meaning of the famous arguments of Zeno of Elea.

>>14629933
And retroactively reaffirmed by Abd al-Wahid Yahya (a.s)

>>14624219
>'modern' metaphysic's'
Contradiction in terms twice over. Pathetic.

>>14622875
No. Guénon retroactively eternally protects it from all refutation.

>>14608793
>Indians were amateu-

"I never wrote anything on Plotinus, and admit that I never had the time to study him closely; but I know that there are many similarities to be made with oriental doctrines...Only there is one thing that has always shocked me: this history of states that Plotinus would have attained a certain number of times in his life, and, from which, seem to have left nothing permanent, which is poorly understood from the point of view of initiation; there would have been, in any case, something very incomplete in relation to his realization." - Rene Guenon (pbuh), letter to Dr.Duby, 14 December 1936, Cairo

Plotinus if he had ever met him would have fallen at the feet of Shankaracharya (pbuh) and begged him to accept Plotinus as his disciple, thereby allowing Plotinus to attain the permanent union with the One that had eluded him his whole life, which Shankaracharya (pbuh) attained even before reaching puberty

>>14607212
based

How do I assimilate guenon with Plotinus?

the most important thinker of the 2nd millennium AD

>>14097933
>Epicurus was The Good they were after
he was destroyed by Guenon, like so many others

"Attention has also frequently been drawn to certain features common to the decadence of the ‘classical’ world and to the present time; and, without wishing to push the parallel too far, it must be recognized that there are in reality striking resemblances. Purely ‘profane’ philosophy had gained ground: the appearance of skepticism on the one hand, and of Stoic and Epicurean moralism on the other, are sufficient to show to what point intellectuality had declined. At the same time, the ancient sacred doctrines, scarcely understood any longer by anyone, had degenerated through this lack of understanding into ‘paganism’ in the true sense of the word, that is to say they had become no more than ‘superstitions’, things which, having lost their profound meaning, survived for their own sake as merely outward manifestations."

- The Crisis of the Modern World

>>14075600
Sorry wrong pic

>>13544740

How can you go back to reading regular fiction after reading Guénon?

>>13277570
You'd have to convert to Islam and learn classical Arabic well enough to read and understand the Quran and Hadith. Then you'd have to move to an Islamic country where Sufism is still prominently active, learn their dialect/language on top of classical Arabic, and somehow cover living expenses while gradually immersing yourself and assimilating yourself into the culture and local community. Most of the Sufi orders in the west are new-agey and devoid of genuine esoteric knowledge of very old origin, hence if you wanted the real thing you'd have to move to the Middle East, North Africa or maybe Islamic Asia. Then, once you do all this you'd have to actually find a Sufi group teaching the esoterism that you're looking for, many Sufi groups in the modern era just center themselves around idealizing the prophet and around prayer, the actual transmission of esoteric metaphysical knowledge of the type concerning reaching a state of perpetual spiritual enlightenment/liberation à la al-Insān al-Kāmil, fanā, waḥdat al-wujūd and the non-dualistic teachings of Ibn Arabi etc in a guru-like master to student setting is very rare. You'd probably have to spend a lot of time interacting with a various Sufi circles and teachers before ever coming into contact with this and even then there is no guarantee that you'll find it.

>>13161735
>blocks your path
>*decapitates Anglos and empiricist-cucks*

Where do I start with Rene Guenon? I have become interested in Shankaracharya and have repeatedly encountered his name as the foremost authority on the subject.

Is it true he is among the best interpreters of Vedic thought? Which book of his is best to start with?

>>13054363
>he doesn't know you can only go outside by going inside
Oh my sweet summer child...

>>12993415
based