/lit/ - Literature

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>What i'm trying to imply is that human nature is objective/universal and not subjective
I know and I despise you for it. You say no one aspires to be like a heroine addict yet people build their entire lifestyles around pleasure and say the most important thing in their life is "being happy." Human nature and morality is not objective and measurable, what is right and what is wrong depends on what you think you know and what you're willing to guess at.

Everyone admires people who aren't rude, attractiveness, the vague definition of creativity but how much they value each of these things depends, and often society needs people who are rude to get a point across, or people who are lazy to find a simpler option, or people who are dishonest to improve life for everyone.

"Virtues" are not universal measurable things, you cannot measure how good one deed is compared to another. Even if we were measuring by the same metric values we would come to disagree over available options and over the fundamental goals. Your attempt to claim that human nature is universal is the creation of a system in which you are the moral one and people with different opinions (like "giving your power away to others is not inherently moral") are objectively immoral by the virtue of their opinions not being yours. Every liberal i've ever argued with at some point comes to this.

>The only coercing you should suffer is the one of isolation and depression for being a philistine.
This. This right here is your entire ideology in a nutshell, you literally cannot consider the idea that your morality is not objectively the correct one, that you could be morally wrong. Those who disagree with you are the nonvirtuous, they are the philistines. You literally refuse to acknowledge, - in any comment - the idea that if being a good person means giving power away in excess then the people with power will always be evil. It is an unsolvable problem in your "superior" understanding of human nature.

>We have universally liked personality traits
Clearly not as I despise your ideal model for a man.