/lit/ - Literature

>>12000043
paradise lost was published 52 years before Robinson Crusoe so i think it ok to compare them especially in relation to christian thought about ''If God is so kind and loving, why can't he forgive Lucifer and let him back into heaven?''
>>11999987
also just like agamemnon and achilles falling out with each other and lucifer and god as thomas hobbes mentions in laviathan that bad shit happens when the sovereign even if he is unjust is not obeyed

>>11986950
hector with his dieing breaths prophecies prophesys achillies being shot by paris

think, lest the Gods
Requite thee on that day, when pierced thyself
By Paris and Apollo, thou shalt fall,
Brave as thou art, before the Scæan gate.

end of scroll 22

>>11974932
the argument between agamemnon and achilles in iliad scroll 1 shows that bad things happen when the sovereign ''leviathan'' is challenged and also shows the difference between command and counsel both concepts appear in hobbes leviathan. thomas hobbes even went on to translate homer later in his life.

>>11972884
The Iliad illustrates a pre-philosophical yet sophisticated view of reality.

>>11970469
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I have been hitchhiking America for over 10 years
im on scroll 23rd of iliad.This is the 7th time reading iliad.

>>11967477
possibly...many of his songs are vulgar but hyperrealistic.i think its difficult for people to get to stone cold truth about things and gg's songs display a depth of humanity few ever come close to getting at.

>>11931398
my translation says ''...a deadly cipher, magical marks engraved and hid in folded tablets

i got the worst case of chiggers ive ever had because i bathed in a ditch.the itch.... its bad,not like a toothache but because it's an itch it compels action,hard to be stoic about an itch.

>>11923336
also the yearning to kill.

>>11908123
bernard knox tells you how you should think about the book.i hate the man.some intros are informative but knox is brainwash.

>>11898883
dante's divine comedy and thomas hobbes leviathan mention geometry many times

butlers translation in late victorian english was good for cozy reading.fitzgerald is a bit more dry but also intense.

>>11900064
Death...the progeny of an incestuous relationship between satan and sin

>>11899658
read homer and realize humans are part of mother nature's perfect system and that government is as organic a social construct as the pecking order of a pack of wolves.read plato's republic and understand the parable of the cave.

>>11887733
thomas hobbes says the same in leviathan

odysseus says in odyssey scroll 9 `Remain here now, all the rest of you, my trusty comrades, but I with my own ship and my own company will go and make trial of yonder men, to learn who they are, whether they are cruel, and wild, and unjust, or whether they love strangers and fear the gods in their thoughts.’

>>11885642
as an actual hitchhiker I thought it sucked.Towels use up too much volume when packed into a hiking pack and that waste of space makes it impractical. It was a fun read but it was just a hollow story that doesn't get into the depths of the human condition.

>>11884482
guy teaches Hitler studies and named his son Heinrich.It was a decent book in a Tom Robbins way.

>>11886161
as a hitchhiker/modern explorer I prefer to read in forests,vast expanses of undeveloped prairie and desert and babbling brooks

>>11885458
No. I live outside and can listen to nature and when I pause to reflect on what I have read I can hear mother nature's perfect system in play and that helps me keep my thoughts based.

>>11840133
I'm always reading Homer but besides that I'm reading A Tear and a Smile by Kahlil Gibran.

>>11840398
machiavelli's discourses on the first ten books of Livy