/lit/ - Literature

>>10800791
>rape
>not an edgy young adult cliche
Yeah, Game of Thrones is for intellectual powerhouses.
>an unfounded opinion with the same merit as "I didn't like it" but phrased more eloquently
I explained why I didn't like it. I don't need to refer to specific plot details because the plot doesn't mean shit if it's written poorly. Not that the entirety of Claw even had a fucking plot, it was pointless bullshit that led to nowhere and then suddenly in the last chapter something mildly interesting happens.
>>10801167
Your opinions on literary criticism are so fucking retarded. Everything I can possibly write is just an opinion. If I listed something specific and said "this is why it's bad" it would be retarded, reading plot details of a book doesn't tell you shit about how good it is. If this story was written by a good writer my opinion would be entirely different, and my only explanations for why would be "I like these [lists off] aspects of his writing", "the narrative knew its place and was tonally appropriate during difference sequences", "the writer kept me interested in the slow parts of the story and I wasn't lost as to why nothing was going on". None of those things can be said about Gene Wolfe, and I appropriately listed off the obverse of each of the above in OP. I'm sorry if the word "profound" is too pretentious a word to use when I'm using it to refer to Wolfe's pretentious writing style.

But yeah, it's just an opinion, not some imaginary objective literary criticism like "DUDE he was fucking his grandma WHAT A MIND FUCK", "so many layers I'm so fucking smart did you read my timeline for the series?". Truly you must be a philosopher to understand "Claw of the Conciliator" kek

>>10801167
>>10801106
The story follows Severian aging. He starts out at the beginning of adolescence (just under YA age range) and for the last 450 pages I've read he's probably not much older than 18. Probably 16-21. He probably doesn't age past 21 before the epilogue of the fourth book. The protagonist is in the perfect age range of a YA novel, and any follow-up where we see an older Severian doesn't change that the bulk of the story is written about a young adult, targeted at young adults.

I don't even see how the protagonist's age is even relevant. Game of Thrones is clearly aimed at readers aged 15 to early twenties and a lot of the protags aren't young adults.
>>10801996
If you look up Book of the New Sun discussion online a lot of it directs right back to the MDE subreddit, and I guarantee a lot of the people you talk about these books with on 4chan were recommended it by Sam.
Cam McLeod is probably the faggot defending the book so hard in this thread.