/lit/ - Literature

This is quite literally the sequel to Catcher in the Rye in the most insufferable way. Everyone is a phony except the narrator.

>>22139846
>paying money to the church to forgive your sins?
A regrettable practice of the medieval church. I'm not going to deny that this was very bad.

>according to your logic, if something was practiced by some leaders in the medieval church, then it is true Christian doctrine
This is not my logic. Though I'm happy to add nuance and explain my logic.

There are two big differences between the way that I studied early church history and the way that you just did.
1. I focused on *early* church history, and you did not. Medeival history is not early enough
2. I looked for consensus, not the mere existence of a belief/practice somewhere in the church

Your parody of my logic is: "If something was practiced by some church leaders in medieval times, then it is true Christian doctrine." My actual logic is: "If a doctrine/practice was universally held by Christian pastors/theologians in the first 3-4 centuries, then I can have reasonable confidence that it is true Christian doctrine."

The requirement of consensus is appealing because it weeds out heresies that were floating around in the early church. For example, some early Christians did seem to teach heresies like adoptionism and binitarianism. However, these doctrines did not even come close to being consensus views of the early church, so they are weeded out. Contrastingly, some doctrines that were universally held by Christian pastors in the first few centuries are: 1. Jesus' real presence in the Eucharist, 2. Baptismal regeneration, 3. true salvation can be lost, etc.

The requirement that we study very early church history is appealing because it allows for a reasonable assumption of continuity with the teachings of the Apostles. We have the writings of Christians that were discipled by the apostles. We have writings of Christians that were discipled by people that were discipled by the Apostles. If these people taught that Jesus was truly present in the eucharist, and an alternative belief didn't even exist at the time, it is hard to imagine how it could have been possible that the Apostles were teaching something different.

>>22138039
Care to expound? Were you most affected by the Masscult and Midcult essay? Or were there other essays that you learned from?

What do you consider to be Midcult in the present day? My fear of engaging in this Masscult and Midcult framework is that it could be that everything I think is Midcult is someone else’s Masscult and it turns out that I’m just a phillistine pleb.

>>22112854
Nta, but certainly your impression of a book after reading it is more expansive than your assumptions about the book prior to reading

bumb

Ok so I got the sudden random urge to write a book, what should I write about?

>>19816863
incredibly fake and gay lmao every leftist attempt at a meme is worse than the last

>>19598999
checked

>>19190567
good job anon

>>17679531

>>16868516
Oh, good thing I don't give a fuck about what you think :)

>>16525299
We get a thread like this every week or two, and every time the consensus is generally:
a) It's certainly much better than reading nothing, if you read very little or not at all it's a far better way to get back into it. I started with the series a few years ago and this year I read GR, Dubliners/ Portrait and Lolita and enjoyed them all a great deal
b) There is indeed more complexity to these books than "le genre fic is for pleebs" give it credit for (bear in mind that most of those people don't read anything), political philosophy, ethics, trauma and development, and even some interesting religious themes and symbolism are all present and intelligently woven into the narrative
c) The books are fun, if you were at all invested in the show and felt it went to shit after a few seasons, as most people agree it did, then you owe it to yourself to read the version where it just got better from that point.

Based

>>16148832

I'm so horn right now bros!

>>15434781
>“The weaver-god, he weaves; and by that weaving is he deafened, that he hears no mortal voice; and by that humming, we, too, who look on the loom are deafened; and only when we escape it shall we hear the thousand voices that speak through it. For even so it is in all material factories. The spoken words that are inaudible among the flying spindles; those same words are plainly heard without the walls, bursting from the opened casements. Thereby have villainies been detected. Ah, mortal! then, be heedful; for so, in all this din of the great world’s loom, thy subtlest thinkings may be overheard afar.”

>>15401441
>>15401499
thanks a lot anon

>>15324881
very based, keep making christcucks and modernists seeth friendo.

I am this anon from the previous thread:
>>15320555
>I am a developer of web applications. I think this is a great idea that could be better supported by a bespoke application, something tailored to this exact exercise.
>
>What features would you like to see that might be an improvement over a Google Doc?

I will try to use this tripcode but I may forget because I am new to trips.

Feel free to (you) me ITT or to leave notes in the sections titled "Towards a Dedicated Tool for the Coronameron Project"

>>15289897
Thanks bud

>>15127036
>>15127067
Excellent posts!

>>15095792

>read book
>it's good
Thank you literature.

>>14887151
HELLO BASED DEPARTMENT