/lit/ - Literature

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Thank you for the Junger references again - btw love that image you posted. Were you on a group called ETF some time ago on Facebook by any chance? A lot of the discussion we are making here was made (in meme form) in that group, mostly by referring to Futurist thinkers like Marinetti - they were the first to my knowledge to theorize (aesthetically) a weird form of accelarationist mysticism which could have some space in this discussion.

>Noi siamo sul promontorio estremo dei secoli!... Perché dovremmo guardarci alle spalle, se vogliamo sfondare le misteriose porte dell'impossibile? Il Tempo e lo Spazio morirono ieri. Noi viviamo già nell'assoluto, poiché abbiamo già creata l'eterna velocità onnipresente.
(We are on the ultimate cliff of centuries!... Why should we look behind us if we want to tear down the mysterious doors of the impossible? Time and Space died yesterday. We are already living in the absolute because we have already created the eternal omnipresent speed.)

I feel that Marinetti's poetics was already laying down some of the lines we are exploring here. All those ramblings about speed are not just ramblings about speed, really - there is much more in that speed, as acceleration of world processes, allows for the first time to see things that were invisible before - the character of process becomes clearer, and process can be understood not as mere dualistic opposition but as a monistic, rational, pattern-driven development directed toward some end. For instance, we may be witnessing intelligence as an emergent feature of a self-organizing system for the first time

>capital is a computer which processes desire.

Here, for instance. This is such an interesting way of seeing all this. The whole question of what is the state of a mind included in a higher mind/intellectual system is the question of the mystics. Plotinus could be super useful to you to articulate this - his idea is that the self is actually re-discovering itself through ascension in different levels, which would make our individual/animal simply a lower manifestation of higher levels of being a "self", such as that of the hyposthatic Intellect. But Plotinus has his peculiar ensouled/all-is-minded metaphysics to support these ideas. Maybe there is a way where his thought touches thinkers like Land or the others you are mentioning though. I do believe though, that if we are talking about loss of self in a greater organism/intelligence, we need to bring the mystics in the game, because they have a great deal of experience when it comes to ego death and being absorbed by higher entities - if there's someone who can describe the modality of implementing smaller intellectual realities in a larger, all-comprehensive one, it's them.

Dear /lit/,
what novels do you think represent more accurately the current era?