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Not a first mover argument. You need formal and material causes too, not just efficient.

The observed universe additionally requires active management to produce a universe capable of carbon chemistry. Without going through every stage of required fine tuning (like the gravitational constant needing to be so precisely small it doesn't cause an immediate big crunch, but also so precisely large that galaxies can form, and then within them first generation stars, and within them higher elements that then explode and for second generation stars with seeded protoplanetsry discs etc.) you need a God that can produce fine-tuned cosmic inflation to stick his finger in the universe to male it grow at the exact time and pull put at the exact moment shortly afterwards, all after the "first cause" and the "first movement".

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