/lit/ - Literature

>thread shills shitting up /clg/
kindly rope.

>>23377068
Not everything needs to be a "gotcha" moment.

So were he and Queequeg... you know...

>>23351881
It's cute, actually.

>Supposed to be about Stepan Trofimovich
>Stepan Trofimovich doesn't do a single thing that's plot relevant
What was the point?

>>23260255
None of the subjects in the trivium/quadrivium are bad in themselves (and indeed some, most notably grammar, are sorely needed), but studying music theory or astronomy just to tick a box when one is uninterested in either seems like a waste of time. What effect do you think the traditional liberal arts have on the soul that would warrant their study?

Francis from The Secret History

>>22847577
Homer was a woman.

>x, a novel

>If the eye is going to see itself, therefore, it must look at the eye, and at that place in the eye in which the virtue of the eye comes to exist, and presumably this is sight?
>It is so.
>Therefore, dear Alcibiades, if the soul too is to know itself, should it look at the soul, and above at that place in which the virtue of the soul - wisdom - comes to exist, and at any other thing to which this happens to be similar?
>It seems to me, at least, Socrates.
>Are we able to say what of the soul is more divine than that which is concerned with knowing and thinking?
>We are not.
>This part of it, therefore, resembles the god, and someone who looks at this and comes to know all that is divine - god and sensible thinking - would thus come to know himself also. (113B-C)
How does Socrates know that the thinking part of the soul resembles the divine? Why is Alcibiades so ready to accept this?
Additionally, it seems wrongheaded to focus especially on the part of the soul that can have wisdom at the expense of the whole soul. Why does Socrates believe that one can best know the soul by doing this?
I haven't read any Plato besides this dialogue, so if he answers this somewhere else please let me know.

I just finished 1st Alcibiades and although I agree that understanding man would be a necessary step for Alcibiades to succeed I am unsure how such an understanding would be obtained. What is a reasonable next step?

>agitprop book
I thought you retards were supposed to be free thinkers.

>>22108297
>I'd better post on 4chan instead of starting it
Why do people do this?

>>22046979
>upper middle class youth who has never experienced any hardship or struggle in his life thinks total societal collapse would be "cool"
Many such cases!

>>22011177
It does not follow from prop. 3 that an atheist will always be a liar. Atheism is not an immutable characteristic.
Proposition 6 does not follow. Even if an atheist may not convert, there may still be natural theists.
This is seriously embarrassing.

What are some books for someone who believes in Christ’s message but sees through the scam that is organized religion?

>>21790915
>ask it if Socrates believed in the gods
>not only gives an incredibly surface-level answer but makes claims about the Apology that simply aren't correct

>>21670368
>There has got to be some value, right?
It's YA. That should answer your question.

>>21600755
>the translations in the Plato Complete Works
There are better ones.

>>21532681
I should clarify it’s only my undergrad diss

>90 IQ Hegelian brainlet who has never actually bothered to study physics (because he is too stupid to do so) trying to establish crackpot theories so he can suck off Hegel's cock

>non-fiction
>Bible cited several times

Socrates deserved to be found guilty. He clearly did not believe in the city's gods, and indeed avoids any outright claim that he does in the Apology. Even his reference to Apollo avoids naming him, since he says "the god at delphi".
Also, many of the youths he tutored (such as alcibiades and charmides) turned out to be harmful to the city of athens in their political antics.

I'm a student and I need money quick. Where can I write for people and getting paid ? I don't care what, can be fanfics or anything.