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In principle I despise this sort of threads, but I realised that I have a serious ethical doubt that I can't solve, and /lit/ is the only place that might offer a relatively rigorous answer, with some real philosophical/ethical basis.

Basically I got messaged by a guy who is offering me a findom relationship. So it would go: I ask him for money, he sends it, his dick gets hard. I talked with him about it, how it's supposed to work, how does he make money (he's 19, I'm 24), etc. Apparently he has a job, and seems to have a relatively healthy relationship to the fetish (wouldn't let himself go broke because of it, I think/hope).
I'm a semi-neet and, as bizarre and fucked up the fetish sounds, I've been seriously considering accepting it. I would definitely make sure we don't go beyond a particular sum.
But even under ideal circumstances I still doubt this could be considered ethically fair or acceptable. Pic related, I consider utilitarianism overall useless, but what would be its perspective? Can the sub's pleasure + the dom's monetary gain outweigh the harm to the sub who loses the money?
From what I remember of Kant from high school, his approach is to see whether an act treats the person as a goal in itself, or as a tool (the latter being unacceptable, due to denying the subject's personhood). This is difficult to interpret and apply, since by that logic maybe all sex except procreative acts is merely using a body/person for your own pleasure; on the other hand, we may conceive of the money as being apart of the person, the person is merely giving up an object that isn't relevant enough for them. Or perhaps the sub is the one who denies his own personhood through that act?
The Christian perspective might be of interest too. A curious thing comes to mind: we're both gay (he's bi, from what I've understood), but the relationship would be purely online, verbal and financial. There's a degree of physical attraction, but it wouldn't be essential. This seems to entirely circumvent the classical anti-gay rule from Leviticus. Perhaps there are other relevant principles in Christianity that would apply? The "golden rule" is what I especially try to keep in mind, and - if I had enough money and a findom fetish, I guess I would too want someone to play along with it?
Perhaps there's a way to "act out" the fetish, but without actually exchanging the money, e.g. I could return it immediately afterwards. I should definitely discuss such stuff with the guy the next time we talk. An another thing that came to my mind is that it may even be good for me to get money from him, since I really don't need much, so he wouldn't waste much; otherwise he might find someone else who would milk him harder, causing him more harm.
Of course, maybe all these doubts and considerations are an attempt to conceal the truth that I would certainly enjoy getting some money for free, so maybe I'm an immoral person already?

So, what would be the ethical take on the issue?

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>>15616343
That's... disconcerting.

>>15616590
A man's bike is sacred. Disgusting, vile basedboys.

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