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>the question for politics becomes, what can actually provide the fantasies offered by - and *to* - capital in this way?

but i don't think anything can, cause once you reclaim subjective agency from any and all paternal principles you're gonna wanna dive in that abyss until you hit bottom. certainly zizek is right about ideology, that there's no neutral frame outside all frames from which i can be Becoming's spectator, because all the forces that have led to today have been catalyzed by one realization, that every perspective is discursion, there is no pre-discursive perspective, all engagements are partial engagements, and since we can't escape this vise-grip (that we are) we might as well crack open matter for its marrow, convince ourselves we're following the bread crumbs to something.

i mean, this is why land and deleuze are kind of naïve with some of this stuff, all this talk about the neurotic apollonian repression of the feminine fluxion, etc. blah blah blah, yeah dude i think you can give the ancients the benefit of the doubt here: they did have an intimation of this libidinal flow that must be the site for the very crystallizations of order that resist it, and which they ultimately assert with their final dissolution. and that's why the Law was the Law, they still retained a memory of the Enemy's face, but the Law became so effective it lost its lustre simultaneously with our being able to drown out Chaos at the gates. and now Chaos is coming back, or: Chaos has appropriated the Law to itself as the runaway anti-telos of the machine.

>GITS was way, *way* more interesting like that. as in: what happens when people realize what they really want is to be different people?

would it be fair to characterize the intellectual evolution of humanity as our species progressively rubbing the sand out of our eyes as we emerge out of the sleep of Nature/Ain? that is to say, that this thirst to become other/more is our finally accepting that nymphs don't live in the bushes, and the human condition is a fundamentally unsatisfactory one. fundamentally broken. this urge to innovate is like a claustrophobia of the spirit. nietzsche snapped cause i think he realized this, we weren't "made" to wallow in our humanness, however noble and refined, but to destroy it, all human life to fully be life must exist in fidelity to its inhuman core, the negativity that galvanizes it.

most of humanity up until nietzsche thought god sacrificed himself for humanity, it was only nietzsche who saw the world for the altar it was, that it is humanity that is the sacrifice, and sacrificed only so what survives us will know the thrill of what is more than us. and that's the tension between the 22C and the 19C you're talking about i think, whether we can salvage our old ideals and give them that apple corp. sheen or whether millennia of war and suffering and tortured paeans to the stars, etc. are really telling us one thing, which is to get a fucking move on.

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Books for this feel?

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