/lit/ - Literature

>>16110600
This is partly true, although it is a deeper problem.
Art is not meant to be divided as it exists today, rather it should form a whole work. Not in the Wagnerian sense either; not in the technical sense of raising up, but rather as an unfolding. The individual artists in Greece and Modern Europe both disappear, but in a completely different way.
Individual forms of art, as they are given to us by the Muses, should unfold as in the seasons, culminating in one of the great forms: the festival, military parade, mystery, or prophetic rite. In these events the historic moment is at once becoming eternal and being let go - a paradox of the collision of worlds.

Music, within the great seasons of art, is a great technique of apprehending, of returning one to the body or allowing an entire group to let go. The military song or the maddening chorus. Paradoxically, the effect is much the same. The sounds are of chaos, death, the heavens, the underworld, and the farthest reaches of the forest. In their very being we are compelled towards movement.

Even the most mundane figures and ideas can still hold a great power, whereas in literature, as just one example, the tendency for the thinking mind is towards annoyance or revulsion. For example, in form the works of popular music and the poems of Rupi Kaur result in very different responses. Even here on /lit/ the first tends to be regarded with mild respect or indifference while the latter receives almost universal hate.

Music is an easier art form in a sense because, by its very nature, it holds a greater captivating power. There is also hope in this because it is one of the last things in which a sense of deep value and law survives.

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>>15974138
>>15974350
Thanks. I'm glad a few people got something out of it. A longer response incoming, probably too long for some but maybe it will generate some discussion.
>>15974251
In some broad sense, this may be true, but there is the danger of misinterpretation in this and then turning the falsehood into a moral law. Meaning is not the central factor, it may never even be found. "The more meaning it has the less it is." It is essentially the same as false art, it may lead us astray or form as hubris which turns a god to wrath.

We see this meaninglessness of meaning in those who take the completely opposite position of you. Rather than a reverence for women it is understood that women are simply out to deceive men, that beauty is itself empty and only men can properly form it. Essentially, that another Pandora must be carved out of stone. This is, strangely enough, due to an idea of art that is precisely the same: you both begin from an interpretation of technical meaning, yours is simply feminine and theirs masculine. Art becomes little more than a textile or armour to cover one's weakness - where gender becomes hardened because it is little more than a memory. What we see in the gods is completely the opposite of our weakened gender, it is character that is dominant in them, they just so happen to be male or female. This is not to say that it their sex is unimportant, only that it is a secondary rather than determining factor. Meaning tends to confuse and cause one to become lost in time, and this is increased as questions become more difficult.

One may be able to catch a glimpse of this in Dadaist art. I should say that I don't really appreciate this art, nor much of the modern art that I will mention, but it is interesting and certainly revealing in its relation to aesthetics and the mythic interpretation of art. Picabia's clock, for instance, contains the instruments and gears of a dead machine - in another image it takes the form of abstraction of the movement itself as a timebomb. This is where the pure feeling of Suprematism and the pure technical destruction of art meet, they are in their essence equal: beginning and end as a hardened law, a certainty. The technical perfection of modern man through his art is inescapable, no matter how you attempt to escape this, no matter how irrational and destructive your art becomes the essence remains the same. This is because at its core modern technology is a destructive process, its law is what gives us the leveling process, both in culture and its artistic representations