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>Imagine if you would, a flame, and this flame produces light, and this light produces the experience of light.
>This is to say, the flame (shiva, the ego) gives forth light and is light, but is primary flame and light, which is to say, awareness, illumination, in the sense of the light of the one, that light is revealing the one and is the one, yet the nature as the one is primary in same way that flame is primarily flame and light the awareness of flame, and the particular sight of the light which is to say, the dasein of it, the Apara form of it, that is likewise nondual to the shakti yet divisible in the same way you divide perception of color from color.
In this allegory, what difference in awareness is the flame and the light supposes to represent? Because you've said shiva is the flame and both gives forth light and is light, that is awareness, but then you say the light is awareness of the flame, which turns out to be awareness, so it's awareness being aware of awareness. What is the difference between awareness and awareness? Is awareness being aware of awareness (1 x 1 x 1) different from awareness (1)?

>I again disagree for you are dividing them too harshly, if desired I can post my personal phenomenological analysis which would substantiate it but it would be significantly not in tantrik language and based on my own modeling, though imo it would back this nondual unity.
I think I tried looking at it once before. I find you easier to understand when just talking to you than reading the writings that I've seen you post here, I would honestly prefer rather you just try to describe plainly why in a straightforward way like you were speaking to someone in real life and trying to point it out to them like you were talking about their own consciousness. For example I can try to do the same for how I see reflexive awareness or prakasha, here spoken of as experienced as 'witness-consciousness' or sākṣī-chaitanya. Sākṣī-chaitanya is how jiva's mind interprets the presence of non-dual Awareness animating and illuminating it, while without the jiva or the 3 bodies (Karana sarira, Sukshma sarira, Sthula sarira) present anymore, such as after Videha mukti (moksha after bodily death), It just remains as the infinite non-dual Brahman-Atman alone.

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