/lit/ - Literature

>>20640096

The underground man is an insecure nihilist whose only shred of ego is based on the fact that he proves his free will by acting in spite of his best interest.

There are supposed to be some relatable qualities to him, but overall you should find his life a cautionary tale of a life without purpose or greater meaning.

What is a nonfiction book you would characterize as beautiful?

Is there any nonfiction books that talk about these topics? "Asceticism, Life task, Wandering, Daily Ritual, Meaning, Beauty". I think this WebM encapsulates perfectly the type of nonfiction book I'm looking for. To better explain what I'm looking for/


>I’m interested in the idea of having a task in life. Something that takes over your entire life to the point of asceticism. Along with this I feel like the idea of beauty, wandering the earth, the Nation, meaning all take part in this. I think about the idea of the Artist in his cabin like Heidegger’s away from normal life with the need to complete his task and to bask in the glory of Beauty in art, and the land around him. I realize I sound kinda schizo but there is a type of feeling I’m trying to give so you guys can better understand what I’m trying to say. I've looked through thousands of books to find this but I've never found anything exact. Just to add again I'm almost entirely interested in nonfiction. I'll take a fiction book it really encapsulates this but I'm mostly interested in nonfiction.

I’ve been looking for a specific nonfiction book for a while but I’ve never been able to find it. This webm almost perfectly encapsulates in but I’ll add in some words to make it easier. I think the book will be in psychology. I’m almost 100% sure the book I’m interested in will be in psychology but two philosophers I’ve read who seem similar are Heidegger, Schopenhauer, and the Romantic philosophers but again I don’t think philosophy is the type of book I’m interested in.

Asceticism, Wandering, Ritual, Meaning, Life task, Beauty

I’m interested in the idea of having a task in life. Something that takes over your entire life to the point of asceticism. Along with this I feel like the idea of beauty, wandering the earth, the Nation, meaning all take part in this. I think about the idea of the Artist in his cabin like Heidegger’s away from normal life with the need to complete his task and to bask in the glory of Beauty in art, and the land around him. I realize I sound kinda schizo but there is a type of feeling I’m trying to give so you guys can better understand what I’m trying to say. I've looked through thousands of books to find this but I've never found anything exact. Just to add again I'm almost entirely interested in nonfiction. I'll take a fiction book it really encapsulates this but I'm mostly interested in nonfiction.

What books feel like this webm? I made this post before but I feel like I didn't really get any great responses. I imagine a book in my mind of something that goes over the sublime beauty of a village like this. Something that goes over the Nation and it's culture. Something that goes over the man who travels and spends in these villages.

What am I to do if I find my life terribly in accordance with Oblomovism? I have sought after this peace for so long, but this book has shaken my foundations, held a filthy mirror to my face. What does it all mean?

>>19089013
Something is wrong with you or you came from a real shithole. Pic related is where white men are meant to live.

>>19058356
Perhaps it's an Anglo thing?

I experience similar feelings of alienation when I navigate around London. I don't actively hate other races and am even friends with a few, but walking around I cannot escape the feeling that I am a foreigner in my own land. I feel like a relic that isn't supposed to be in this multicultural melting pot. I look at old buildings and feel a sense of consanguinity with the English communities of old which once resided there and no longer do. It is like we are a forgotten people, written out of our own national story. It is greatly distressing and many have similar feelings to me.

I took an IQ test and scored the equivalent of about 145 on the typical 15pt standard deviation curve. This is considered "genius level" but I've done nothing of note in life. What books should I read to reach my potential?

What philosophy book feels like this webm?

I've written a bit over the last day but it's so fragmented I'm gonna have to clean some things up before I move on to the next page. Yes I know write now edit later but...I did it on five hours sleep and it's about time to sit down and do it again.
I'm writing lovey dovey stuff and have no muse tonight. I can't get one in real life either. I've tried absolutely nothing and it hasn't worked.
That's okay though. I'll manage.
I'm listening to this tonight. Give it a listen if you need some motivation; I know I'm not the only one here chasing off shadows all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq9eqHDKJPE
Also in unrelated news it was raining last night and today and a toad was on my porch and I decided to pet it. They really do actually scream if you touch them for some reason. Reeee is not a joke.

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This thread minus booba and sugarcoated would have receive one yes and already be archived.

The internet isn't what it used to be. It's been completely co-opted by corporations, ideologues, useful idiots, propaganda, bots, and shills. My escape from the world has been taken from me and now there is no recourse, nowhere to be that is not saturated with the crude, the dumb, and the belligerent.

I wish I had somewhere to be, some worthy thing to do, some crowd to which I could belong. I've never felt this alone before.

>you have to learn and practice poetry (and other arts) from a young age to be a good poet
>you can start philosophy as a young adult and still be a great philosopher
Explain this. Why is the artistic feeling harder to find than the philosophical thinking?

Can we just admit any significant interfference by Joe with 4chan(/nel) would be bad?

>>17247889
Faggot.

>>17238731
this is, again, just propaganda. Like church girls being the most slutiest. it's just not true, but people have become convinced of it because of (((media)))

>The third passage of the Parmenides is the most profound point to which Occidental metaphysics has ever advanced. It is the most radical advance into the problem of Being and time—an advance which afterwards was not caught up with [aufgefangen] but instead intercepted [abgefangen] (by Aristotle)
- Heidegger
>If the second half of his [Plato’s] Parmenides would be performed anew with today’s methods (and not Neoplatonically), then all bad metaphysics would be overcome, and the space would be open for a pure hearing of the language of Being.
- Karl Jaspers in a letter to Heidegger:

>Let this therefore be said, and let us also say the following, as it seems appropriate. Whether or not there is a unity, the unity itself and the manifold otherness, both in relation to themselves as well as to each other—all this, in every way, both is and is not, appears [phainetai] and does not appear. —This is most true [alēthestata].
- Final passage of the Parmenides

>Maximal truth has been attained when appearance and Non-being have been included within truth and Being. The dialogue literally leads to Nothing [Nichts]. . . . Thereby the question of Being has been transformed, everything is now otherwise. The on is both hen and polla, and it is hen, insofar as it is polla and vice versa. The One and the Many are only insofar as they are in themselves negative [nichtig].
- Heidegger's conclusion of his seminar on the Parmenides

>>16760821
Look better than what most whores wear today, desu.

>>16659935
But isn't Switzerland supposed to be beautiful?

>>16583892
Firstly, you have to understand the metaphysical earnestness of Plato, and the Greeks on a whole-- Zeus is no idea, but a living being. Secondly you must understand the underlying and structurally interconnected poetic themes and meaning of the dialogue as well, it's not just a blatant treatise. There is a poetic genius in much of Plato, which is more subtle, and requires more than taking the dialogues as purely literal sources, which they evidently are not(to be clear, I'm not saying whether or not some or most or none of what he says is a metaphor or anything like that). Socrates is passing from the great divide of life to death, why do you think duality features so heavily in this dialogue? Partially to elucidate that, the true nature of it and a testament to the greatest of men Socrates, his friend; But this death also exists to explain the Theory of Forms, and theoretically explain it, placing it in the perfect organisation and context to do that; and there is a certain, undeniable actually, spiritual quality of presenting the Forms in the importance of death, in the life of man, and unnecessary to say: so touching and great a man and friend as Socrates. You must understand both, and it is your de-earnest neoliberal mind which is so opposed to what you perceive as what blatantly Plato is saying, but also the great depth of mind in it. I do not think you are de-earnest, you are young and vigorous, but modern people betray you here without explaining it, or so dreadfully and pitifully often as mocking it. And I do want to state more clearly, the theoretical and abstract ideas in it are very interesting and worth studying, for so many reasons I need not and could not say them all, from understanding those traditional conceptions of the divine which finds a defining origin in Plato, to particular ideas like that of duality, which even someone like Jung 2000 years later took as one of the first explanations of Enantiodromia, "Everything arises in this way, opposites from their opposites". Some have termed Phaedo the full development of the early conception of the Forms, which Plato would further radicalise in his later dialogues.

That is why I put so much emphasis on the poetic in Plato(where I explained the Phaedrus), we don't have Aristotle's dialogues so we know not exactly what he did with that, but even in those simpler and MUCH earlier dialogues as those three you mentioned, there is a good value. From laying some of the structural basis of the logic Aristotle would use, to explaining some of Plato's own and the Socratic dialogue/Socrates the man as you already said.

Modesty is a virtue anon, be slow, intelligent and very considering for when rejecting such staples of tradition-- All but where it cowers the youthly urge!

>>16397992
Beauty, redeeming beauty. It thrusts you out into the fact of action, built upon the being of the world; Parmenides, Heraclitus, Plato, Christ. You choose in the most primordial sense to be and of a prior orientation of your culture or unique being in heroism, you choose to create! If the reality of the profundity of being is realised only fully self-consciously in rarities, and if beauty can be such; then action will determine it certain that it will be found, for what you seek in silence. At least if you are of that mind, but you thrust yourself upon life no less, if monkish meditation be your will. For "He who knows what is, knows what he wills in the midst of what is", ignore is/ought distinction, it is unimportant except for that when you wish to dissect what you already know to better understand. Ultimately it is all truth, realise it however you may and what bridge your spirit must cross. Be certain of who and what you are.

>In expressing the characters’ motivation I felt I had to maintain an uncommonly delicate balance; naturally my hero cannot appear to be totally unconscious; rather I have tried to portray Siegfried as the most complete man I could conceive of, whose highest awareness is that all awareness can only be expressed in the utmost immediacy of life and action: to what immense pre-eminence I raise this awareness - which may almost never he expressed - you will realize from the scene with the Rhinemaidens. Here we discover that Siegfried is immeasurably knowing, for he knows the most important thing, that death is better than living in fear: he knows the ring, too, but scorns its power, for he has better things to do; he keeps it only as a symbol of the fact that he - never learned fear. You must admit it: the gods in all their glory must pale before this man! . . . "

https://youtu.be/_5zNH6R1zsE?t=675

As Christ says, if thy right hand offend thee; cut if off!

>>16356118
Late Plato roots the Forms in the Instance and you now have to face death, but the essential gist is still there, sorry pal but that's just how Parmenides is.

Also the Phaedo is a very beautiful dialogue.

Why are Wagner threads always so comfy, and with good discussion?