/lit/ - Literature

>>21017378
>yet in the end the Gods will stands. This deterministic portrayal of life
>yet in the end the Gods will stands.
does not support the idea that
>deterministic life. Just beacuse humans ultimately cant escape or shape fate doesnt mean its deterministic. Gods change their minds or are beaten by other gods. And pagan gods usually are subject to possible death. There are also usually other influences than the gods in the world which affect its outcome.
>Did I miss some overarching theme? Or am I thinking about it too much?
Thats pretty much the big strokes. There are a million smaller ways to speculate and contemplate its meaning. Have you read The Illiad yet? There are some analysis which can be made contrasting the two.

>>19561491
This is a good and short book on art and why some modern art is good and not just money laundering. Ok well, it's all money laundering now. But there WAS an underlying form to the early modernist masterworks.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16917

Here are the quote from it I found interesting. They might not be relevant, but they'll give you an idea of the book:

>All artists are religious. All uncompromising belief is religious. A man who so cares for truth that he will go to prison, or death, rather than acknowledge a God whose existence he does not believe, is as religious, and as much a martyr in the cause of religion, as Socrates or Jesus. He has set his criterion of values outside the physical universe.

>The kingdom of neither is of this world. Rightly, therefore, do we regard art and religion as twin manifestations of the spirit; wrongly do some speak of art as a manifestation of religion.

>"Don't waste your time and energy on things that don't matter: concentrate on what does: concentrate on the creation of significant form." Only thus can either give the best that is in him. Formerly because both felt bound to strike a compromise between art and what the public had been taught to expect, the work of one was grievously disfigured, that of the other ruined. Tradition ordered the painter to be photographer, acrobat, archaeologist and litterateur: Post-Impressionism invites him to become and artist.

>The clever fellows [...] were throughout that period for ever setting themselves technical acrostics and solving them.

>(Primitives) Untempted, or incompetent, to create illusions, to the creation of form they devote themselves entirely.

>But the perfect lover, he who can feel the profound significance of form, is raised above the accidents of time and place. [...] If the forms of a work are significant its [[provenance]] is irrelevant.

>The contemplation of pure form leads to a state of extraordinary exaltation and complete detachment from the concerns of life: of so much, speaking for myself, I am sure. [...] the transmitted emotion [...] can be expressed in any sort of form—in pictures, sculptures, buildings, pots, textiles, &c [...]

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>>18652547
No. Just that his benchmarks are not Otto's benchmarks, not Max's benchmarks. Think of Esme and her poetry.

>>18652866
huh