/lit/ - Literature

Which of the two 'start with the greeks' meme charts is better? And do you, personally, have any changes you'd make?

Why does /lit/ recommend Robert Fagles' translation of the Iliad and Oddesy over other translations? this chart doesn't explain it.
t. newfag trying to start with the Greeks.

Do I absolutely NEED to read the Iliad and Odyssey? I know this makes me sound like a philistine and an idiot, that's because I am both. Can someone tell me specifically how reading these would benefit me as I move along? Is it just gaining insight into their attitudes and culture and the context in which plato and co. exist? If so why do I need to read this boring shit to understand that? Aren't there some cliff notes somewhere? Honestly goddamn

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Ontario
The First Philosophers
Star Maker

>>13262163

Also what do the colored lines mean? I already got Hamilton’s mythology

>>13228457
Start with the Greeks

oooh, another start with the Greeks one

Greeks

Start with the Greeks.

>>13164217
start with the greeks

>>13162543
one step at a time, start with the Greeks

>>13160178
What does "start with the.." mean to you?

>>13132520
Start with the Greeks

>>13127778
This?

>>13114282
start with the Greeks

Is there an actually good place online to learn about the history of philosophy that isnt just a bunch of /pol/ incels

I'll read the first dubs

>>13092090

Don't care about the other books for the sake of this post, but fagles is best for reading and staying truest to the homeric stories - in so far as that they're supposed to be sung! You can sing his works! The meaning comes across, despite not sticking to the word for word like Pope.

Don't get me wrong, the classical guys are great, but Fagles is by far the best thats come out, especially for a very public audience. There's something to be said for its worth if even people that aren't normally into classical literature dig his renditions. t. classics major

Ugh I feel like such a normie reading this. Just want to get to the cool stuff already.

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>>13049140
so, should i fall for the start with the Greeks meme

>>13030918
Okay, well then you're actually getting a good early start. Read the charts definitely. If you want to understand philosophy, start with the Greeks. You don't need to read every book on this chart, some books are supplemental reading to understand the classics or stuff like the Greek Epic Fragments (you definitely need to read Homer though)
From Plato and Aristotle, you don't need to read the complete works. For Plato, read
>Apology
>Euthyphro
>Crito
>The Symposium
>Phaedo
>Republic
>Parmenides
For Aristotle, read
>Ethics
>Politics
>On Poetry
>The Organon
>Phtsics
>On The Soul
>Rhetoric
There are a ton of /lit/ philosophers who can guide you through your journey in philosophy better than I can