/lit/ - Literature

>>17379426
The truth is that beautiful people are evil because they know they can get away with committing crimes.
Women get away with more lenient sentences for committing the same crimes as men because people are more forgiving of beautiful people but men do this too. Quite a few attractive men serve as lures to bait innocent women into being kidnapped and sold in the human trafficking trade.
Take the uggopill, look into the Halo effect.

>>14916462
And as for utilitarianism, it must be the case that this philosophy is also centered around the self, since there is no other good reason why we should favor the happiness of the whole. Consider the case in which the greater good is to kill off humans so that some other larger, superior species may profit and be happy. Why should utilitarians support humans, then? Only because they themselves are humans.

>>14850293
Morality is doing that which benefits you the most, with or without God. The difference is that with God, morals are universal, fixed, known to humans, and the punishments and rewards are greater in degree.

>>14846357

You cannot confine good and evil to be totally dependent on subjective experience. What seems good to humans is good and what seems evil is evil. But this totally disregards God’s conception of good, which is more objective. A world in which humans only perceive good is therefore not necessarily objectively good.


God’s objective omnibenevolence/goodness/justice is not affected by our subjective views. God is good because God is Truth and is a glorious Creator. In the same way that I eat animals for my purpose, making it good for me, God does whatever he needs to do for his objective standard of good. Unfortunately this allows suffering to exist for us, but God is merciful, so he allows a way to salvation, which we can either accept or reject


God is objectively good, but also subjectively benevolent to humans. But God can also be subjectively malevolent. This has to be the case, since some people hate God, and some people go to hell.
Proverbs 8:17
>I love those who love me, and those who seek me diligently find me.
James 4:8
>Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
Deuteronomy 7:9
>9 Know therefore that the Lord your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments.

The problem of evil is a subjective problem only, made worse when you’re an atheist.


>10But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

>>14827236
Morality is ultimately based on self-benefit, with or without God. The difference is that in theism, morals are universal, fixed, and known by humans, and the rewards and punishments are much greater in degree.

>>14778253
Nothing really.

Retards here are just too obsessed with themselves and spend time harping on how bad they have it. Even if they were in the position on the right with the gender roles inversed, they would still find something to bitch about.

>Why yes, I AM the official mascot of edgy, pseudo intellectual teenagers on /lit/, how could you tell?

To benefit yourself. Being moral is about benefiting yourself.

>>14530376
I’ve solved morality, free will, justice, the problem of evil, the Euthyphro dilemma, and I have a working argument for the necessity of God’s existence, through which I give intuitive reasons for why God’s existence is necessary, rather than simply declaring that God is necessary, but it all depends on one important premise that’s hard to prove, but also disprove. Some may accept it, others not.

Ask me anything.

>>14525561
Replace “pleasure” with “positive experience” and try to deny it.

>>14368450
Alex is undoubtedly smart, I will admit. Perhaps its his eloquence that really make him stand out. However, he is not smart enough. I noticed that he made a video on Pascal’s Wager and obviously had no idea about Pensées. He’s made multiple videos about morality, most recently his vegan video, yet he has no idea what morality is. While he says that morality cannot be objective, he demands that we should all be vegan! And this is based on the same type of circular reasoning that he criticizes of religious people. The worst part of all this is that he’s deceiving millions of people, especially impressionable young people. I hope that he will change his ways, or it would be better if he had a millstone hung around his neck and was cast into the sea.

>>14355128
Any book dealing with ethics or morality should have no more than 50 pages

>>14347315
If you don’t believe that morality is real, then why do you still eat? Why do you sleep? You must believe that these things are good for you, otherwise you wouldn’t do them. If eating and murder were not distinguishable in terms of morality then why is it that you eat three times a day, but never murder? Why don’t you act randomly? Why do you act so similarly to most people?

Now you might say morality is subjective and not objective. But I say it is both. It is subjective in the sense that morality is dependent on the conscious experience of the individual and the environment in which he is. Being moral is doing whatever it takes to make his life as most preferable as it can be. Obviously this is dependent on his unique composition as a being, as what makes him happy might not make other beings happy, and vice versa. However, just because he believes that an action is good for him in the long run, doesn’t mean it is. If only he knew all possible futures, and could understand how each path would affect his conscious experience, then he would finally see which path is most preferable and most moral. So it is often the case that what he believes is moral isn’t actually moral. And this is why I say morality is objective. Once you have the agent and the environment, morality has already been calculated, fixed, but it might be different for each person and in each circumstance. I always like to compare life to a chess game: the moral principles are similar to chess principles. We use them because they are practical and sometimes true, but that doesn’t mean the principles are permanent, and sometimes you must break the principles to make the best move. All of this slightly changes if God exists a la Christianity, because then morality is fixed and universal.

>>14333891
Morality comes from what you perceive to benefit you the most. A truly moral person is he who is able to act in such a way that his life path will be most preferable of all, and that, if he could have chosen all other paths, he would still prefer the life he lived. There is no difference between being moral and benefiting yourself. Otherwise, why be moral?

>>14267786
>you are doing things to people because it benefits you, not because it is the right/just/moral thing to do.
What’s the difference? Can you elaborate on what you mean by “right” without going in circles?

>>14242819
Is killing wrong in itself? Then it would be the case that killing animals is just as wrong as killing humans, regardless of the consequences. But how many ants have you killed?

>>14180017
Why is it ok to kill an ant, but not a human?

>>14168521
If you are truly free, then why are you not perfect? Do you not want to be perfect? But if you want to be perfect, then why do you not will it above all things, and attain that perfection?

>>13885531
Is no one going to respond to the only reasonable post ITT, are will you all keep discussing a word you haven’t even defined? Clarify your thinking.

>>13833802
I’m simply trying to clarify everyone’s thinking about morality. As it is, the word is often used mindlessly, with no one really understanding what they mean by it. What can be more true than that we should do what ultimately benefits us the most? Even if this were not practical, is it not true? And I am no atheist. I don’t believe such a lifestyle is beneficial. I’m a Christian and I subscribe to its moral laws.

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There is no morality, only wisdom.

Why be moral?