/lit/ - Literature

>>23321965
It's true no matter how much you cope, bad thought haver.
>All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts.

>>23321965
That image is literally true. Enjoy getting even more ugly as the years role on.

>>23321971
>>23322696
Stopped clocks are right twice a day. Dahl embodies the worst of the English character, snotty classicism, a hatred directed towards all upward striving, sadistic glee in seeing anyone who disagrees with you punished.

>>23321965
What book is this from? I've never read anything by Dahl, so I'm wondering where to start.

>>23321922
>You were made with weakness and faults and luckily the Bible was made for you.
You don't have those? Or are you having a manic episode right now?

>>23321895
pseudish prose

>>23321922
It seems like I am a demon if you wanted to cite a Bible source but I am just playing the part of freedom. I bet we both suffer the same just in different forms. I feel bad for us. And you wanted the keys to the kingdom so bad, that it would be impossible to move civilization forward without being anonymous. Fame is dead in heaven but here in hell it reigns all supreme. I met the Christ person before in person he shivered when he detected a bad soul.

>>23321932
Are you good or evil? Is your life evil or good and do you have free will? Sin seems to be the chains to total goodness. But it is you who decides who is good or not good. Choice is a contradiction. I bet you liked the school shooter who had schizophrenia huh. What was his name again?

>>23321946
I hope you find the peace you're looking for.

>>23322369
>In the darkest of my Ohio, I found in me a toilet so Skibidi, it rizzed up another Hyperborean edit and defeated Judge Holden. No cap.

People still play Subway Surfers? I thought that fad died like a decade ago?

>>23322406
Fr?

>>23322420
people don’t play it, they watch videos of other people playing while someone talks during a youtube short

>>23321890
This would actually help me focus if I didnt care about the topic being taught

>>23321988
Just start with GR, ignore the autism.

>>23321880
Go Tell it on the Mountain

huckleberry finn is the best out of those 4

>>23321988

If you want to ignore the autism start with this post
>>23321998

I would suggest V.

Finished it last summer, fun read

>Major Marvey sucks NIGGERS
lmao

>>23322690
Children are innocent so they don't go to hell.
Repenting may not be enough for someone who does something like murdering the child... Even Jesus says so.
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Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
>23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

>>23322687
My point remains the same in regard for eternity: a finite mortal lifetime of sin and failure simply cannot justify any infinite inescapable anguish. Obviously if God says otherwise then He is right, but I find it so comically unbelievable that any being of benevolence and forgiveness would even create beings that are unforgiveable solely so that they may experience everlasting misery away from Him.

>>23322700
It sounds like we mostly agree then; it's kind of hard for me to speculate on what punishment people might deserve, I just have faith that God will provide perfect justice, whatever that is.

>>23322697
Children are not innocent unless you define a child as being innocent in which case I'm not really sure which age-range you consider children to be in
Why do people baptise babies? They have original sin
Do children lie? I think they do
Do they know they've done wrong when they do so? At a certain point yes!

>>23321788
People have been misunderstanding Plato's Cave for years. He was talking about post nut clarity. There was a cave outside of Athens where Plato used to go and jerk off in the dark for 6, sometimes 16 hours a day. He almost lost his position at the Academy several times because he'd be gone for weeks at a time slapping his dick around in the dark. I'm dead serious, little motherfucker just couldn't stop whackin it. Socrates tried to get him to stop and eventually killed himself by drinking hemlock because he was so sick of Platos shit (Plato later fabricated a story about execution for corrupting the youth to cover this up). Every few days he'd return to Athens shouting some shit about how he'd "escaped the cave" and could "see all truth" lolol and everyone would just stare at him like this fuckin freak man. Get him the fuck out of town. All it was was once he'd cum he'd realize he spent hours in a cave and thought that the insight that he didn't have to jerk off anymore was some profound truth when it was just him clearing his balls and thinking straight again. Aristotle eventually distanced himself entirely from this weird ass shit and came up with the idea of looking at shit in the world to figure out how it works aka "science," when people would ask about Plato he'd just say "look man he was great when he was young just let it go."
This is also a rare point of parallel between Plato & Diogenes too, except Diogenes used to jerk off in broad daylight in the city center while cracking up, high as fuck on mushroom laced wine. Plato would come talking about his cave and Diogenes would tell him to stop being a bitch and "whip out his cock like a man."
Strange place.

>>23321818
It definetly gets passed up for reading DFW and Pynchon first(as I am doing). I also still need to read Faust before I can start The Recognitions. It's on my bookshelf though.

>>23321924
Make sure to get a full version of Faust. The one usually recommended as the best translation (Kaufmann) only has part 1 in full. Part 2 was only partially translated by him.

>>23321756
(spoilers)
>"You're the by-Goddest rabbit I ever damn saw!"
>Wyatt in his illness standing up and feeling the pain like nails through his feet and unable to recognize his own father while he was being laid back in bed by him.
>In Paris, Crémer extorting Wyatt for money in exchange for good reviews for Wyatt's art, and later lambasting Wyatt's art after he refuses to pay.
>The scene with Esther and Wyatt, where Wyatt plays with the yolk of the last egg in the house, and then scares Esther by accidently cutting up his face after trying to shave with his straight razor.
>The black poodle that runs in the house after Wyatt and Otto's walk, then the scene where Wyatt is alone with the dog and gets pissed at it, and then Recktall Brown's introduction scene.
>The Jesse guy coming in while Otto is writing and asking if the hero of Otto's play is going to slip it to the woman, then trying to make up his own idea for Otto to write.
>Otto crudely (and comically) trying to overcome the language barrier when speaking with the cleaning ladies on where his play is.
and of course:
>The very fine use of language in the prose
>The life-like characterization and expression of the characters in their psychology, dialogue and actions
>The weaving of mythological and Christian imagery through allusion and reference
I'm only 160 pages in, so of course I'm still exploring the novel and disentangling it, but, as a work of fiction and experience as it is, I think it's great so far. For me it's becoming one of those novels that come alive and you find yourself living in it.
I'll see what the next ~860 pages are like though. I trust that Gaddis won't disappoint.

>>23321756
I'm 250 pages in and it's really good but by god is the dialog irritating. A friend parodied it as
>"You lay with me in the dark and tell me things like... zero doesn't exist."
>"...Spinoza."

>>23321756
i dropped it halfway through, though i really wanted to like it. there are some excellent parts, but i just don't care about otto and it seems it will just continue following him unfortunately.

>>23321721
>>23321721

Why did women reading erotica suddenly become a culture war issue, haven't they been doing that for ages now

I got aroused twice reading Tender Is The Flesh

>>23321721
Tiktok women antics are so fucking annoying.

ngl snowcrash gave me a boner when the eskimo guy rapes the teenage chick

>>23322000
Very based

> But He answered and said, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.’”

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
(John 14:6 KJVA)

>>23321718
Leviticus 18:22

>Let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love. (Pr. 5:19)

>>23321700
they would probably be extremely violent and have no understanding of the future tense. but who could they be? it's a mystery for the ages

>>23321700
Blacks.

>>23321700
Does he also know that the Bible says white skin is a curse?

>>23321703
>it had a huge impact on me
Why? Explain.

>>23321857
He's younger than this website and discovered baby's first Christcuck existentialist novel.

>>23321861
bait

>>23321631
crime and punishment is his most approachable work and most comprehensive alongside with being a sort of thriller which any modern normie with a half baked brain can appreciate. but too me it isn't his most deep work. i dont mean to insinuate that it it makes you less smart for having it as a favorite. i just feel that most his other major works offer what crime and punishment does and so much more. it is a shame to read crime and punishment and call it a day with dostoy. demons, the idiot, a nasty story and in particular notes from underground are all so jampacked with human insight that it is sad they dont get brought up as much as crime and punishment, tho as said I understand why it is so.

>>23321653
swedes dont read anything else that tv4 nyhetsmorgon doesnt recommend. >>23321662
is absolutely delusional. the swedish thread is nothing but nazis, an extreme amount of incels, 2 particular idiots larping an in love gay anime romance and some guy endlessly schizo posting a swedish food youtuber and managed to single handedly bann an entire popular swedish internet provider from 4chan. fucking bananas on there and there is not a single mention of literature there aside from maybe mein kampf.

I don't have anything in particular against Peterson because I'm not literally a Marxist, and I don't think the government should be censoring speech
*shrug

>>23321723
As long as they keep the penis it's trad imo. Keep knives away from our children's privates please.

>>23321531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maXXTXIgpu8

Jordan Peterson is evil and stupid. He has a daughter and says, “We are here to suffer so learn to suffer like a man.” A potential paradise could be like a never ending DMT trip with the constant pleasure level of heroin. If you get bored then it’s not paradise. There don’t even have to be human bodies. His is just a severe lack of imagination. And there is no sense in which suffering or mediocrity create meaning. All the meaning you need would be packaged into the paradise experience. But I am not experiencing such meaning and perhaps never will. That’s why despite the abundant grace and mercy I think I am not subject to a fully benevolent God. Perhaps God is like Jordan Peterson and I therefore consider him my enemy.

>>23321690
>some of the strides the medical industry is making (think dickgirls) should be met with cautious optimism. Instead his types just show resentment.
I haven't critically engaged with the literature, as, to be frank, I haven't the stomach, but I trust Peterson. I think one ought to be sceptical when children, very young children, are being drawn towards this. Like, do trans children really exist? These "doctors" are literally taking the word of children as valid, like, they are children, man! A child, generally speaking, doesn't have the ability to think about how they will feel in 10 years, for example! It's absurd, nor is their understanding of themselves that profound as to make such a choice, really. I suspect foul play on the parents side and just general child behaviour being mistaken for what it isn't by jaded medical professionals.

This shouldn't be a reactionary or conservative position, as we haven't even determined its validity to begin with. I think it's likely that legal action will occur on a mass scale within the next few years, something like that.

>>23322236
It was always normal for kids to experiment with ideas around sex. As with anything else they're going to have malformed beliefs until they can catch up with functional society. "Trans kids" is just a way to hijack the process. It turns into a bunch of stuff that can be convincing when relevant beliefs haven't fully formed, and that includes a lot of adults.

Is De Sade worth reading? Is his philosophy and literature actually good?

>>23321542
Justine is his only good book

>>23321514
Jarhead

>>23321514
>Storm of Steel
>The Bhagavad Gita
>Gates of Fire
>We Were Soldiers Once...and Young
There's a lot, anon

>>23321477
This is a Sakuya board.

Justine
Oedipa Maas
Tess of the d'Urbervilles

Any recs for tragic heroines

>>23321705
Holden Caulfield's sister

>>23321713
Because he raped her?

The heroine/main antagonist of a book I wrote.

Whatever happened to 4chan textboards? I remember there were links to them on some boards, but I don't see any now

>>23321476
Yes, I start new threads instead of derailing good ones. I suppose they taught you as much etiquette as they did capitalization and punctuation in zoomer school.

>>23321487
>>>/news/

The textboards were never popular enough to get a feel for site culture. What I've seen since /lit/ formalized is that there was a genuine interest in heavy literature and grad-level discussion of it that has declined to the point that it's hard to even talk about memeshit. It's also obvious no one has a computer and anon doesn't make memes more, but some of that was a response to how it trickles down into shitholes like after I'm done banging your mom.

>>23321470
I killed the textboard on wizchan because they banned me and talk shit behind my back and let women into the Steam group. If you are a textboard fan, I'm glad to have taken another one away from you. Fuck psued text boards and fuck all vagina havvellrass.

whoops meant to post this on /x/

>>23321427
David was a faggot sinful loser and is punished for it

>>23321657
Go to church and openly invite your family to join you, and never rescind the invitation.

because the Bible is gibberish. haven't you figured that out yet? faith-based religion is a distraction from spiritual truth, which revolves around your personal connection with the infinite

>>23322439
The Bible has that, though; a relationship with the Holy Spirit and Christ. Believing in "spiritual truth" requires faith. Pure reason can't get you the "infinite" or God. That comes through revealed theology which is why we have the Bible. If you somehow managed to find Truth without the Bible, it's thanks to the grace of the Holy Spirit.

>>23322439
The problem with this is at best it leads to you concluding that smoking pot and being vaguely 'nice' is what the infinite wants from you and at worst leads to polyamory and heroin and who knows what else.

>Beauty is truth, truth beauty, —that is all
>Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
- John Keats

Read Schiller if you want to understand the intellectual current of romanticism that Beethoven was coming out of. But all romantics believed in the correlation of truth and beauty.

>>23321317
what did Beethoven read?

>>23321968
>But all romantics believed in the correlation of truth and beauty.
I also believe in it.

>>23321298
It says it's a "to read" chart at the top so the anon who made it hasn't read any of those books, presumably. I'm guessing it's numbered as a "roll" game (ie. you would have to read Less than Zero by BEE), although the books on the sides are confusing, perhaps if you roll either a 1 or 0 you're supposed to read the two books (ie. if you roll 20 you have to read Fanged Noumena and David Copperfield, an odd combination).

I was in the Discord where this was made. It's supposed to represent books that are related one way or another to each other.

>>23321683
Explain to me what David Copperfield has to do with Fanged Noumena

idk if shes a soulmate per say but learnt she recently slept with her friends brother. Classic!

>>23321294
My own probably stopped banging her husband on a regular basis three or so years ago, but that's ok. I've had two, arguably three, 'soul mates' since then.

Me, and I intend to matepress her tonight

Their husband:(

>>23321294

Don't have one. Not a person who has ever existed, or ever will. Let me clarify exactly what I mean. There has never existed a person, even in principle, who if I ever met them and got to know them would really "get" me, such that we would enjoy each other's company and form a loving, stable relationship. There does not exist another person with whom I am highly compatible on multiple levels.

Some people are wired or, if you like, "meant" to be alone. I am one of those. Therefore, I don't have to wonder or worry about such a person rutting with some tattooed scumbag, or some black man.