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23231681 No.23231681 [Reply] [Original]

Any recs for books similar to this? Less of the cinema autism necessarily, more of the slowly developing conspiracy. Well written in this way and not Dan Brown tier slop.



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23231646 No.23231646 [Reply] [Original]

Would like to get into writing for medium as a hobby. Any tips for creating actually good content?

I have heard that using personal experience such as "I tried keto diet for 30 days. This is what happened" can be very good.



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23231610 No.23231610 [Reply] [Original]

Was he in fact the best American writer of the 21st century? Is it all downhill now?


>The Road
>No Country For Old Men
>The Passenger
>Stella Maris

Nobody currently living his a bibliography like this

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23231627

>>23231610
>owned by an unfinished novel
>>23231613
Against the Day is probably the best thing written this century so far, not much even comes close. Picrel is on of the few which comes close.

>> No.23231631

>>23231610
Maybe he's great but I can only read books with depth, not just a bunch of bloodshed chronicled with style. Correct me if my impression is inaccurate

>> No.23231633

>>23231613
>>23231627
What'll y'all niggas got against Inherent Vice and Bleeding Edge?

>> No.23231652

>>23231633
IV is a solid story but not much depth and simplistic style wise, I enjoyed it and will read it again but ultimately McCarthy tier. Shasta presenting herself to Doc is one of the hotter things I have ever read, almost enough reason to reread it on its own. I have yet to read BE, will eventually get around to it.

>> No.23231663

>>23231633
Nothing against them but they're Pynchon lite. Against the Day is substantially better.



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23231600 No.23231600 [Reply] [Original]

Genuine question is there any philosophy that doesn't fall under the categories of:
1) common sense
2) brainrot bullshit where nerds make up words and ideas to obfuscate and posture
3) things that aren't worth thinking about
4) something that isn't immediately comprehensible from reading the first sentence on wikipedia

>> No.23231602

>>23231600
>inb4 'philosophy is the study of knowledge and you're partaking in philosophy by asking this'
Yeah, and the retards at the assisted living facility across the street are philosophers too.

>> No.23231686

Philosophy is any thinking that transcends doxa and the "natural attitude." The reason you have abstract concepts at all and can speak at multiple layers of abstraction from concrete reality and immediate sensuous givenness and think about the truth as opposed to appearance is because philosophers painstakingly found ways to say things like "abstract," "concept," "abstraction," "concrete," "reality," "sensuous," "given," "truth," "appearance," etc. The first step in doing philosophy is to enter into this dialogue by learning concepts, and then attempt to become reflexive (another philosophical, abstract concept) about your concepts, thus encountering the inevitable epistemological quandaries of reflexivity.

The peculiar situation of modern man is that we have so many sedimented layers of philosophical abstractions operative in our daily speech that we assume they are normal. The given, doxa, has become quasi-philosophical, it is laden with cast-off sediments of past philosophizing. This is a dangerous situation. To get out of it, you need philosophy.



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23231574 No.23231574 [Reply] [Original]

Talk about a rough day at work!



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23231523 No.23231523 [Reply] [Original]

What literary or even fictional world is a genuine utopia?
Not just better than Earth, but outlines the best possible goal for mankind or any lifeform in general?

>> No.23231537

Our pleasurable dreams.



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23231477 No.23231477 [Reply] [Original]

The Ghost has to be a demon. It can't actually be a spirit from Purgatory, no matter what test Hamlet applies. If it really were the soul of Hamlet Sr. sent back from Purgatory, then it would be sent back with the full consent of God Himself. But the Ghost explicitly commands that Hamlet seeks revenge on his father's murder, and we know that in a Christian context it is forbidden to seek revenge. "Vengeance is mine, says the Lord," goes the verse. Revenge is not a thing humans are supposed to pursue according to Christianity.

Ergo, the Ghost is a demon, and it is trying to get Hamlet to sin in a way that damns his soul. His earlier fears are correct.

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>> No.23231604

>>23231594
>no he doesnt, where?
Retard confirmed.

>> No.23231612

>>23231597
he refers to "the father" which can apply to God. hamlet even says God, right before the ghosts revenge line. the murder can refer to the spiritual murder that claudius performed on the church, "the body of God" (1 cor 12 27), as the pharisees did to the christ, ie, the spiritual death of denmark caused by claudius's religious hypocrisy.

23231604
youre the retard for not seeing this

>> No.23231615

>>23231477
>>23231484
>>23231530
>>23231578
>>23231594
>>23231597
>>23231604
The Ghost is a hallucination. Claudius was innocent.

>> No.23231642

>>23231530
>Fucksake, and that Hamlet is 35 years older than the character.
Hamlet is 30, Branagh was 36 in 1996.

>> No.23231684

>>23231642
>Hamlet is 30
based on what



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23231471 No.23231471 [Reply] [Original]

Any books on this topic? I was speaking to some friends just now about philosophy and had the epiphany that any moral philosophical system which follows from first principles would suffer from the same fate as all other axiomatic logical systems--That it would be incomplete. Are there any books that explore the topic of truly unanswerable moral questions through the lens of incompleteness?

>> No.23231481

Why are you trying to grasp morality beyond its immediate application to your own life and choices? The most common mistake of philosophy, ethics, and socialist aesthetics are the nigh comical assumption of eternal life - which NONE of us will enjoy!

>> No.23231489

this dude is trying to compare morality to geometry lmao

>> No.23231526

>>23231471
You just want "incompleteness" to be fucking your own daughter.

Read Robert Graves.

Sacrifice of Men is so much sexier.



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23231447 No.23231447 [Reply] [Original]

What writing tips would you give to someone who doesn't read as much as they should but still wants to write stories?

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>> No.23231478

>>23231447
read more.

>> No.23231483

under-reading doesn't prohibit you from writing, and writing more tends to make you a better writer than reading more-- so write somethin!

>> No.23231485

>>23231478
Kind of triggering of you to say this on a public forum when many of us suffer from a reading addiction

>> No.23231531

/writing general/ for starters, you narcissistic nigger

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>>23231447
https://explorer.opensyllabus.org/results-list/titles?size=50&findWorks=writing



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23231409 No.23231409 [Reply] [Original]

Is it /lit/?

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23231444

>>23231421
I'm currently reading this

>> No.23231445

>Knuth
I refuse to touch this until I finish SICP

>> No.23231457

>>23231409
It's very difficult and more or less useless unless you're a CS student who wants to go the very fundamentals of computer science and do research in the area. You should read Concrete Mathematics first, also written by Knuth.
I own both and read neither. It will just take too much time to complete, and I'm not a CS student.

>> No.23231534

>>23231409
>Knuth
No. It is art.

>> No.23231551

>>23231409
Nah. The only lit programming book I have come across is Lisp In Small Pieces, Queinnec is one of the few stemfags who gets literature and can see beyond style guides.



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23231368 No.23231368 [Reply] [Original]

Should I read this before lord of the rings?

>> No.23231391

>>23231368
No

>> No.23231544

>>23231368
Not sideways.
—Sent from my iPhone.

>> No.23231550

>>23231368
Aftér…



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23231357 No.23231357 [Reply] [Original]

A couple weeks ago i met a homeless nomad dude that traveled America and stuff and he had a journal that he wrote his travels in. I thought about asking him if I could read some of it but I didn’t because I’m a afraid of germs and stuff (bitch made I know) Now I regret it cuz I know I’ll never get a chance to read it again and those writings will almost definitely die with him and maybe his friends. I’ll probably never get the chance to read anything like that in general that’s not by a non famous person and not a reproduced work Anyone ever get the chance to read personal diaries/journals of interesting people you know? Were they actually interesting? Boring? Gibberish? Guy had books on him that he read on his travels to. Sounds like a fun experience



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23231352 No.23231352 [Reply] [Original]

Has anyone read "La Noche Boca Arriba" by Julio Cortazar? I wrote an essay on the topic and was hoping for some feedback. The essay is unfinished and in spanish so have that in mind.

Alguien aquí ha leído la noche boca arriba por julio cortazar? Escribí un ensayo para una clase y quería un poco de critica, todavía no lo termine.

https://pastebin.com/44bjHzgQ



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23231331 No.23231331 [Reply] [Original]

>write something
>tell myself "the reader will have no idea what you're talking about. Try to be more clear."
>give up
>cry
Any way to fix this?

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>> No.23231415

Learn not to give up as soon as amy minor hurdle appears

>> No.23231427

>>23231415
Literally how

>> No.23231430

>>23231397
When writing understand that you come first, your reader second. Leave enough detail so you'll be able to understand it a decade from now. You can leave ambiguity in the prose as long as it's still understandable. The last thing you want to become is didactic.

>> No.23231450

>>23231331

>>23231331

Write something that is profound thematically. Find something really intelligent to say. And when you've found it, take how vague you are and use it to your advantage.

If you're vague because your prose is strange or psychedelic, describe things in ways which play into your theme (for instance, describing a broken down car as a "Metal Corpse" or something if you're doing some anti-industrialization thing)

If you're vague because you're writing like a symbolist or something, then obviously just take a lot of time making the symbols really meaningful.

If its clear you're writing something profound, oftentimes how bizarre the literature is can service the profundity, and smart readers will see that and enjoy thinking about your words rather than just reading and expecting to place little pictures in their brains.

>> No.23231453

Why are there billions of people when I'm the only one who matters? Is this the 4k graphics everyone has been talking about?



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23231311 No.23231311 [Reply] [Original]

Books for this feel?

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>> No.23231318

>>23231316
Her dildo probably gets more use than your penis.

>> No.23231351

The Crisis of the Modern World

>> No.23231404

>>23231311
Myra Breckinridge

>> No.23231558

>>23231311
Consensually pounded in my face by my own fantasy of me as an alice in wonderland young person who is adult pounded by the author who is trying to pound someone who is literally figuratively literally a young person but who is me so I'm an adult so it is clearly not auto-pedophilia by a female reader by projection onto a text by an actual adult male pedophile mathematician.

>> No.23231614

>>23231558
@-@



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23231296 No.23231296 [Reply] [Original]

I want to become like a Renaissance Man/polymath, widely read and extremely knowledgeable about a lot of things. What books can help me with this?
I'm already pretty knowledgeable about history and a bit of philosophy, so wanting to branch out into other things like art, literature and the sciences and I don't want to just read text books

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>> No.23231657

>>23231634
>Renaissance Man
the Renaissance Man is homosexual to begin with, cf DaVinci.

>> No.23231665

>>23231511
You should do it over 5-10 years and it's what I did. I'm basically advocating you study 4-6 hours a day, max. Probably more like 2-4. If you can't do that, you will never be a polymath and should probably be content with whatever cookie cutter sampler menu you get served at university.

>>23231500
I agree it's not for everyone. However the things you specifically took issue with are pretty minor. Children used to do Euclid. I think Euclid is not that great unless you have a specific facility for proof-based math, but you should at least do most of the first book and a few other things, and at least get a sense of what Euclid is.

Aside from that I don't see what your issue is. Anybody getting a math-based degree has to do Calculus 1, and a bright teenager can do it. I took Latin, Greek, and French in college at the same time and it turned out fine, and I added German and Italian as soon as I felt like it. I said understanding Newton's Principia should be your end goal if you want to be good at math and physics. I think you can go even further than that and should make studying Einstein and his precursors your REAL goal. But you need to be an actual mathematical mind for that.

>> No.23231671

>>23231296
Become a homosexual. Suck as many dicks as possible. Fuck and get fucked. Only then you can begin to turn into a Renaissance man. Get into painting and read literature of the period.

>> No.23231676

>>23231657
>>23231671
Is it possible to be a straight Rennaissance Man?

>> No.23231679

>>23231676
Only if you're a genius or if you experience something life-changing like war.



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23231269 No.23231269 [Reply] [Original]

>Exclusive info on Paul Thomas Anderson's next film (August 8, 2025) -- it is a "modern-day" reinterpretation of Vineland - "An alternate reality film about MAGA continuing for years and years in the US, and hippie/progressive liberals fighting them in present day"
>https://twitter.com/worldofreel/status/1772996075684511916

A) Did you like Vineland?
B) How integral do you feel the Reagan presidency was to the theme/narrative?
C) Do you believe setting the film version of Vineland in an alternate reality MAGA-world is too drastic a change to for the theme/narrative? Or will it work?

>> No.23231350

>>23231269
Paul is clearly delusional and thinks the hippies still represent some kind of equivalent counterculture in today's world and that Nixonites as we knew them are still around

>> No.23231521

>>23231269
Sounds terrible. I dropped PTA after Inherent Vice.

>> No.23231535

Leftists really are psychologically incapable of viewing themselves as anything other than the plucky rebels, aren't they? They've won a complete cultural victory but they'd rather have their own teeth pulled out than acknowledge it, or even admit it to themselves.

>> No.23231562

>>23231269
Are there any examples of unreadable books being made into good movies?



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23231268 No.23231268 [Reply] [Original]

>> No.23231277

>>23231268
Good rec?

>> No.23231284

It says something that the leading scholar on Wolfe is a nutcase, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

>> No.23231292

>>23231277
Yeah, but if you haven't read Wolfe before, I would generally recommend you start with the Fifth Head of Cerberus.



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23231208 No.23231208 [Reply] [Original]

It's not that I don't want to look into my own eyes out of rejection of what I may find, they unsuccessfully seek to interpret something that they do see but cannot understand.

How many, how many beginnings are necessary to break the vice of a circle that
surpasses in strength any pathetic attempt that my worn-out will has ever proposed?

God does not attend to personal whims, he is not characterized by asking everyone how he can help them. [The hand that reaches out and rescues you, moved only by the beauty of your young features, always comes in the company of another that throws dirt on your face out of aversion to your weakness.]

Dont wait. Don't die, don't live either. Don't cry or try to laugh when that amount of time
has passed sabotages your lucidity. That fear is not real, nor is hope. Will we reach the
peak of our lives if we break the last barrier of alienation? My voice is dying to shout to
the world so many meaningless things that would still be so beautiful to pronounce...

>> No.23231333

Is life that hard?

>> No.23231382

Cocaine?



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23231181 No.23231181 [Reply] [Original]

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