[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/jp/ - Otaku Culture


View post   

File: 34 KB, 278x278, 1343908677417.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9656672 No.9656672[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

How do you punish yourself after spending the whole day on /jp/ and not doing any of your reps?

>> No.9656679

I tell myself that I'll do it tomorrow.

>> No.9656676

By sucking on my dick

>> No.9656683

By not doing reps

>> No.9656691
File: 2 KB, 244x40, reps.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9656691

what?

>> No.9656718
File: 105 KB, 382x499, 1346186119414.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9656718

How do you remember how to say kanji?

I'm having so much trouble with this. I can look at a character, read the meaning for it, and immediately have it ingrained in my memory. I can go through 100 new cards and memorize them all perfectly after one go when it comes to the meanings, but the onyomi and kunyomi is so hard for me to remember. There's always that feeling of doubt where I'm unsure if I'm even pronouncing it correctly too.

I wish visual novels were written in Egyptian. I think I would be good at learning hieroglyphs.

>> No.9656720
File: 2 KB, 279x43, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9656720

how do I quit you /jp/

>> No.9656739
File: 54 KB, 663x511, neco arc mug.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9656739

I always do my reps. I feel like shit if I don't.

>> No.9656745

>>9656718
>Egyptian
>hieroglyphs

Please stop. They use the Arabic alphabet.

>> No.9656753

>>9656745

What am I thinking of then? It's the language with the little birds and pictures. I thought they were inside pyramids.

>> No.9656764

>>9656718
>but the onyomi and kunyomi is so hard for me to remember.
I'm glad I used Eazy-E to help me memorize the onyomi readings.

>> No.9656768

>>9656718
easy
I don't speak to anyone, unless there is no other choice
I don't know anyone that speaks moon
and even if I did I still would not speak to them, unless there is no other choice

>> No.9656781

>>9656753
Egyptians had a hieroglyphic writing system too, that guy is just being an autist.

>> No.9656807

>>9656672
>How do you punish yourself after spending the whole day on /jp/ and not doing any of your reps?
By continuing to procrastinate the the point where you are literally fucked and have more than 10000 cards due or whatever.

>> No.9656809
File: 90 KB, 766x501, moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9656809

I wish I wasn't retarded. Simple things are difficult for me.

Is moon's onyomi ゲツ or is it つき? The flashcards don't really explain. Also, if it is ゲツ then do I pronounce the "u" sound at the end of the word? I've been confused about this for awhile on a lot of words.

I know that you drop the "u" sound on words like desu, but does this apply to any Japanese word that would have a "u" sound at the end of it?

I'm sorry for dirtying the thread with stupid entry level questions.

>> No.9656834

>>9656809
>Is moon's onyomi ゲツ or is it つき?
its kind of explained on the main site. it can also be がつ by the way.

dont get discouraged now, there's a lot like this

>> No.9656850

>>9656809

http://kanjidamage.com/kanji/41

Don't download decks. Make your own deck and input the information manually. It takes longer but manual entry makes the information stay in your head and it won't leave out useful information like that card did.

>> No.9656862
File: 132 KB, 850x850, 1336214230301.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9656862

>>9656720
>>9656691
What is this from? Sorry for being so stupid..

>> No.9656868

I already have a entire documentary about Genghis Khan in my deck's mnemonics.
Damn kanjidamage.

>> No.9656873

>>9656862
It's from Anki
http://ankisrs.net/

It's very helpful, you'll really want it.

>> No.9656893

>>9656873
Thank you
I want to learn Japanese and have wanted to for a long time, I think I will finally try to and stop procrastinating.

But for now I am going to bed, thanks again kind anon!

>> No.9656900

>>9656809

>>The flashcards don't really explain.

On cards like these, onyomi is written in katakana, kunyomi in hiragana.

>>I know that you drop the "u" sound on words like desu, but does this apply to any Japanese word that would have a "u" sound at the end of it?

The u is never dropped. It's still there, just devoiced.

U and I devoice between unvoiced obstruents (p,t,k,s) (this would be the case with suki and kitto) and following an unvoiced obstruent at the end of a word (the obvious example being desu).

Things get complicated if there's two vowels that qualify for this next to each other. But generally only one of the two will devoice and it's hard to tell which. (Only the u in suki devoices for example)

>> No.9656920

>>9656900

Oh, I never realized there were so many rules for this. This is a little scary.

Do you know of any voice pack files or something like that where someone pronounces the onyomi and kunyomi of each kanji? Then I could just add those to the deck I'm making

>> No.9656943

>>9656920
>Oh, I never realized there were so many rules for this. This is a little scary.
It's something you will get used to the more you read it/hear it in context.

>> No.9656955

>>9656809
カタカナ is on'yomi
ひらがな is kun'yomi

>Also, if it is ゲツ then do I pronounce the "u" sound at the end of the word?
Don't worry about it now, pronounce everything with the "u" if you are in doubt.
In certain places in Japan people don't even drop the "u" sound from desu.
And also if you don't drop it i'm sure the japanese will understand you without trouble.

>> No.9656959

>>9656920

Don't worry. These sorts of phonetic rules you'll pick up unconsciously as you go along. They aren't something you'd ever be taught in a class.

Even if you don't learn them, it just means you'll have a slight accent. No one will misunderstand you because of it.

>> No.9657068

When reading a visual novel do you find it more important to be familiar with the meanings of the kanji or to be familiar with the pronunciations?

For example, in the translation process when you're reading through something and translating it in your head do you look at the characters and think, "Okay, this one means that and this means that so what I'm reading would be translated to.." or do you read it by pronouncing the words in Japanese inside of your head and then you associate the sound of the word with the meaning and that causes you to understand what it says?

I'm sorry if that doesn't make sense, I wasn't sure how to describe my question properly. I've never learned a second language before and I'm not sure what it feels like to translate something so I'm wondering if I should focus my energy more on perfectly memorizing pronunciation or only have a basic understanding of pronunciation and drill the meanings into my head very firmly.

>> No.9657223

>>9657068
>important to be familiar with the meanings of the kanji or to be familiar with the pronunciations?
both equally important for me. i need to know the meaning so i know what the compound is and i want to know how to correctly pronounce it in japanese. knowing how to pronounce it properly helps me with my listening skills since i like to read outloud. sometimes i can answer one of my cards just based on what i just heard so i know its helping atleast.

if i were to focus more so on the kanji meaning i would be nothing better than an online dictionary. this leads me to having a ridiculous amount of review cards though since i want to both know what the compound is and how it is read and if i get one of them wrong its entirely wrong in my book.

hopefully this helps you

>>
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action