STG/Touhou

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STG/Touhou Anonymous Thu Aug 23 13:49:10 2012 No.9623394 [Reply] [Original]

>>9604085

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 14:02:26 2012 No.9623436 I like to dodge bullets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 14:29:08 2012 No.9623510 >>9623436 I usually just wait for the bullets to dodge me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 14:44:25 2012 No.9623541 File: 49 KB, 459x600, the-thinker[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9623510

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 14:46:25 2012 No.9623545 >>9623510 Do you even graze?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 14:52:40 2012 No.9623559 There are times where I dodge bullets where I can't even believe I survived. I'd just run past a field of bullets and say "Wow I'm still alive?"

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 14:55:10 2012 No.9623567 File: 939 KB, 500x478, drive feel.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'll never get to those last words.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 15:02:57 2012 No.9623587 Going to attempt pcb hard 1cc (which I've only tried once) Feel free to watch http://www.livestream.com/cutefcchannel

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 15:06:27 2012 No.9623593 >>9623559 It happens to me all the time when I'm playing EoSD.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 15:19:14 2012 No.9623618 >>9623510 >>9623436 I usually ram the bullets because I am the one true learning disability-san.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 15:51:54 2012 No.9623703 i bomb

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 15:58:39 2012 No.9623716 What if touhou was a girl?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 17:37:22 2012 No.9623991 >>9623394 >1/116

Anonymous Thu Aug 23 17:47:37 2012 No.9624041

The day I unlock Type-Z in Crimson Clover is also the day that my hard drive decides to shit all over itself. Oh, that's just fucking great. The amount of grinding I needed to unlock it was absurd, now I have to do it again.

Time to 1cc the hell out of the Touhou easy original mode until I can get Unlimited too!

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 18:05:25 2012 No.9624111 File: 100 KB, 450x426, 1341710707384.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] God damn MX-Brown switches. And here I thought it would be an improvement. Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 18:25:29 2012 No.9624172 >>9624111 Get reds. I'm that guy from the last thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 18:37:11 2012 No.9624207 I cant beat Yukari, i just fucking cant ;_;. Her extra stage leaves me with 2 (out of 5) lives and 2 bombs. She has soo much hp too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 18:50:11 2012 No.9624235 >>9624207 Memorization is the way to go. Yukari is pretty easy.

Anonymous Thu Aug 23 19:20:13 2012 No.9624329

>>9624172
When I was ordering a new keyboard, I was deciding between browns or reds. Reds have been out out of stock for months with no new arrivals in sight, so I got tired of waiting and bought browns. Sadly, I can't afford to blow another $100+ on another keyboard, so I'm just going to cope with this. At least it's still a step up from my 5 year old rubber dome keyboard whose buttons only worked when they wanted to.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 21:48:14 2012 No.9624762 >>9624329 What's wrong with them, out of curiosity? Looking at the mechanical keyboard charts, that was the switch I was most considering.

Anonymous Thu Aug 23 22:43:00 2012 No.9624956

>>9624762
Browns have a tactile actuation point, reds don't. This makes browns inferior for things you'd do when gaming like double tapping.

Whether you're on a gamepad, an arcade stick or a keyboard, you're best off using whatever you're comfortable with. Being able to test various switches before buying would be ideal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 23:19:54 2012 No.9625148 >>9624956 The difference, though, is very little. And if you're a good player, the difference between browns/reds shouldn't really matter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 23 23:56:46 2012 No.9625299 >>9624329 You know you coulda just bought from another store.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 02:43:36 2012 No.9625903 File: 37 KB, 600x450, sdoj 360.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who creaming their undies here

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 02:57:05 2012 No.9625931 >>9625903 whats that

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Fri Aug 24 03:46:58 2012 No.9626056 File: 289 KB, 700x840, 1333359266871.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9625931 Touhou

>>	Dexwyde !mbHjxjfHlA Fri Aug 24 04:08:36 2012 No.9626137 >Mushi HD was the last port they had planned, but due to the great success of SDOJ in the arcades, Microsoft talked them into releasing it on the X360 earlier this month. MS redeemed for their last 3 years of failure

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 04:15:48 2012 No.9626157 Why doesn't anyone ever talk about PoFV?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 04:18:03 2012 No.9626164 >>9626157 You can try and find people to play with in #pofv.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 04:23:33 2012 No.9626177 File: 60 KB, 290x500, soreyuke.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally, a danmaku shmup for a portable system that I own... and I'm too embarrassed to play it in public. Goddammit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 04:32:19 2012 No.9626200 >>9626177 >and I'm too embarrassed to play it in public. Fag

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 04:41:40 2012 No.9626221 >>9626200 Maybe, but it's just kind of hard to explain scantily-clad women shooting bullets from their tits to the casual observer, you know?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 04:43:55 2012 No.9626227 Official 2hu fun level power ranking: God tier: UFO PCB Good tier: MoF IN EoSD Meh tier: SA Shit tier: TD

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 04:46:40 2012 No.9626232 >>9626227 What the fuck did you just fucking say about SA, you little bitch?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 04:55:08 2012 No.9626242 >>9625903 Wish the sperglords would release a proper Ibara port already.

Anonymous Fri Aug 24 04:56:38 2012 No.9626246

>>9626232
It's not fun, only fun shottypes are reimu A and marisa B. Bullet patterns are so tight that the grazing mechanic doesn't really matter as you'll be grazing all the time anyway.
Life mechanic promotes bombing spellcards and not trying to capture them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 05:01:18 2012 No.9626256 >>9626246 Valid points, I suppose. Personally though I find it fun, it is faster paced than the other games and more polished than most of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 05:02:33 2012 No.9626260 >>9626227 I'd UFO down and IN up, but that's a solid list.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 06:24:02 2012 No.9626393 >>9626242 >you will never play Ibara Kuro i'm quoting cave

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 06:59:04 2012 No.9626465 >>9626393 Please stop using quotes improperly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 07:21:11 2012 No.9626488 >>9626465 could this be the start of a epic new meme? you're a faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 08:09:35 2012 No.9626573 Here's mine: ↑ Best EoSD GFW SA PCB IN UFO MoF TD PoFV ↓ Worse

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 08:35:13 2012 No.9626608 >>9626573 I thought I was the only one who liked GFW. Huh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 08:39:46 2012 No.9626619 >>9626393 who u quotin bro?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 08:43:02 2012 No.9626633 >>9626619 >i'm quoting cave Please read the whole post

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 08:45:38 2012 No.9626640 >>9626633 whoquot?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 08:48:38 2012 No.9626643 >>9626640 see >>9626393

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 08:51:30 2012 No.9626648 >>9626633 wh u qt?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 08:52:15 2012 No.9626649 >>9626633 Just filter that shit, then delete your posts which were in reply to that twat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 09:05:24 2012 No.9626671 >>9626633 Please post the release from Cave that you are quoting from. >>9626649 Are you enjoying your stay?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 09:33:27 2012 No.9626729 >>9626393 Who you quoting brah?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 09:53:59 2012 No.9626773 File: 48 KB, 600x797, 1327382177344.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] le #pofv face

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 09:55:58 2012 No.9626780 >>9626773 #pofv pls go

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 10:43:40 2012 No.9626880 >>9626393 Who you quotin breh?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 10:45:21 2012 No.9626886 >>9626880 Can't you read?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 10:49:08 2012 No.9626899 WHO U QUOT xD

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 10:54:01 2012 No.9626916 >>9623436 >>9623510 >>9623545 >>9623567 >>9623618 >>9624041 >>9624172 >>9624762 >>9624956 >>9625299 >>9626137 >>9626200 >>9626221 >>9626232 >>9626242 >>9626256 >>9626393 >>9626608 >>9626649 >>9626780 >>9626886 >>9626899 wh yare you sage

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Fri Aug 24 11:07:01 2012 No.9626953 >>9624041 Oh god, I'd never wish that upon anyone. You want me to upload my save file with everything unlocked?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:13:22 2012 No.9626973 >>9626393 Wh u quot bro?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:14:22 2012 No.9626974 >>9624041 I don't think anyone would begrudge you for downloading a save file at that point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:16:22 2012 No.9626978 >>9626974 I would.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:16:37 2012 No.9626979 >>9626393 please post where cave said this :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:21:52 2012 No.9626990 >>9626393 NSJ confirmed for newfag who are you quoting

Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:24:08 2012 No.9626996

>>9626953
I would be grateful if you did upload it. I really don't want to have to unlock all of it all over again. Not only that, but I also lost my IN score.dat with everything unlocked. About 1,300 hours played. I miss it already, even if I really haven't played it since 2009. ;_; It isn't so much the fact that I have to unlock everything in IN, I just like keeping my score.dat/save data intact for nostalgic reasons.

I could just cheat engine it, but I feel dirty just opening that program up.

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Fri Aug 24 11:27:10 2012 No.9627009 >>9626996 Sure thing. http://www.mediafire.com/?3p3ay92epab0m4b

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:29:11 2012 No.9627015 >>9626996 At the risk of sounding like an asshole, fucking back that shit up. Those savegames are hundreds of hours of your life, come on son.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:33:10 2012 No.9627026 >>9626393 >>9626393 >>9626393 >>9626393 >>9626393 >>9626393 >>9626393 >>9626393 >>9626393 >>9626393 wh u qut????

Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:33:41 2012 No.9627024

>>9627009
Thank you.

>>9627015
It was my fault for not backing it all up, I only have the games and pre-2007 score.dats backed up. Stupid, stupid, stupid. The worst part about the CC save was that I was going to back it up the day after I unlocked everything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:41:05 2012 No.9627037 >>9626393 wh u quot bro???

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:47:40 2012 No.9627048 My favorite tier: PCB UFO Respect tier: IN MoF Fun tier: SA Shit tier: EoSD TD

Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:50:10 2012 No.9627053

After being burned out from Touhou for several weeks, I've decided to get back into it and 1cc UFO on Hard, as it's the only integer Windows game (aside from PoFV) that I haven't gotten a Hard 1cc on yet.

Funny thing is, on my very first attempt (after restarting a few times on the first level due to running into stupid shit), I had a better run than I had ever had before. Of course, when I realized that, I ended up dying three times in a row to one of Ichirin's nonspells and didn't even make it to Stage 4, but is it weird to perform really well after taking a few weeks off?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:53:25 2012 No.9627064 >>9627053 To clarify, I had made a number of attempts on UFO on Hard before I decided to stop playing. The run I just had yesterday was better than any of my previous runs until the dying-three-times-in-a-row thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 11:53:55 2012 No.9627065 >>9626393 whqt???

Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:07:32 2012 No.9627088

>>9627053
I generally play better for the first couple of days after coming back to any game. Then I just progressively get worse and worse the more I play until each run ends at Stage 2/3 or I miss UFOs and constantly restart.

The only game I'm somewhat consistent in is probably PCB, probably because I play through even when I'm feeling like shit(both physically and mentally) rather than just after the first couple of shitplays like with most other STGs that I play when feeling that way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:10:16 2012 No.9627098 >>9627088 >Rather than just Meant rather than just quitting. This is what I get for staying up for three days straight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:10:31 2012 No.9627099 >>9626393 Who quat?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:13:22 2012 No.9627106 >>9626393 wich 2hu r u quoting

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:15:53 2012 No.9627112 >>9626393 hu u quot???

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:18:56 2012 No.9627116 >>9626393 whom quoteth, milard

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:19:41 2012 No.9627118 >>9626393 h u u q u o t ? ? ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:22:48 2012 No.9627120 >>9626393 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:23:47 2012 No.9627123 >>9627053 Very same thing happened to me in EoSD Normal. I played great, didn't lose a single life, not even close to making stupid mistakes. Then I proceeded to lose 3 continues on Patchouli

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:30:51 2012 No.9627144 >>9626393 who u quote :3

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:41:24 2012 No.9627166 >>9626393 who are you quoting newfriend :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 12:53:58 2012 No.9627195 >>9626393 who u quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 13:02:04 2012 No.9627225 >>9626393 who r u quoting? :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 13:12:29 2012 No.9627261 >>9626393 who quoting? :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 13:25:04 2012 No.9627294 I would like some nice gentleman to stream today. Please? I'll suck your dick if you do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 13:37:48 2012 No.9627323 >>9626393 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 14:49:01 2012 No.9627588 >>9626393 who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 14:51:23 2012 No.9627597 >>9626393 who are you quoting?

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Fri Aug 24 14:54:52 2012 No.9627609 >>9627294 I can stream whatever you want in about 3~4 hours.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 15:04:44 2012 No.9627646 Bleh, why are extra stages so...patterned? I don't like it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 15:08:44 2012 No.9627656 >>9626393 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 15:09:44 2012 No.9627659 >>9627609 Not him but do it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 15:12:44 2012 No.9627671 >>9626393 who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 15:17:14 2012 No.9627693 >>9626393 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 15:17:44 2012 No.9627695 >>9626393 ?gnitouq uoy era ohW

>>	Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip Fri Aug 24 15:35:02 2012 No.9627781 >>9627053 Yes, that is quite normal. It happens to me all the time. (Not just in UFO) >>9627294 I can't right now. Maybe next week.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 15:42:51 2012 No.9627828 >>9626393 who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 15:47:22 2012 No.9627851 >>9627828 Christ, dude. You need a ban.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 15:49:51 2012 No.9627869 >>9627851 NSJ tried at least 5 times and the mods are sick of his whiny bullshit by now

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 15:57:09 2012 No.9627892 >>9627123 Could it be because the real difficulty actually starts on stage 4? Getting through stages 1-3 on perfect isn't really anything outstanding you know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:03:35 2012 No.9627923 >>9626393 who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:07:23 2012 No.9627942 >>9627294 Let me know and I can give it a try. It probably won't be up to par with the others as I've forgotten everything about streaming in the brief time (two hours) I tried it some months ago. I hardly play now and don't practice Lunatic, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:10:07 2012 No.9627954 Guys I want to be good at Touhou but I can't even beat EoSD on normal, even with continues what do i do

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:11:22 2012 No.9627959 >>9627954 Practice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:12:22 2012 No.9627964 >>9627954 Hold shift for focused movement.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:13:22 2012 No.9627968 >>9627964 I know that already fuck I'm not stupid I just want to know how to get to flan

Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:15:07 2012 No.9627981

I think I should take a break from 2hu. I've captured like two spell cards today. Taking a break is fucking difficult, though. I'm hooked and before I know it, I'm taking it up the ass again.

>>9627609
>>9627942
Sure, would be appreciated.

>>9627968
Chill. It takes time to improve and it WILL piss you the fuck off. You just have to persevere.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:16:07 2012 No.9627989 >>9627954 >>9627968 Practice makes perfect! Honestly though, if you can't even handle Normal, you're not going to be able to handle Extra.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:16:37 2012 No.9627986 >>9627954 Drink coffee. Don't get hit. Play more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:18:48 2012 No.9627999 >>9627609 >>9627942 Yes, please stream, I need a rest from playing touhou.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:19:48 2012 No.9628002 >>9627981 http://www.livestream.com/anonymizer Pick something. Otherwise I'll probably default to PCB stuff.

Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:33:29 2012 No.9628046

>>9627981
It takes even more time to improve when you're stuck with a learning disability. I love playing for 12 hours straight every single day and still never making it past any Stage 2 on Lunatic. Or dying at the same part in a CAVE game for the past 5,000 hours or so that I've played it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 16:49:12 2012 No.9628086 >>9628046 I feel bad for you, son. I've got 99 problems, but autism ain't one.

Anonymous Fri Aug 24 17:54:13 2012 No.9628286

>>9627053
>>9627064

God damn, I think I remember why I stopped playing for awhile.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23404

These bosses are fucking ridiculous. It feels like I need to bomb every single spell and non-spell starting from Kogasa's second-to-last card.

I'm proud oh how well I handled all the parts of Stage 3 that didn't involve Ichirin, though. She won't stop constantly raping me 100% of the time, but at least I navigated those bullet walls during the stage really really well.

Still though, these bosses are ridiculous. I didn't even get to Murasa's final spell card, and that one's the most fucking annoying thing on the planet, sapping a shit-ton of resources. God damn.

Anonymous Fri Aug 24 18:13:04 2012 No.9628333

>>9628286
Kogasa's last two cards can be a bit tricky, so it's okay to bomb there. To me, all your other mistakes look like something that could be easily solved by some practice.

Like the deaths to fists and Ichirin's opener nonspell, you just gotta get the rhythm down. The stage 4 deaths are avoidable by learning the stage, and Murasa's nonspells are static. I'd also move vertically during her first nonspell, it can be a bit tricky with horizontal only. Her second spell is a tough cookie, and you gotta be very ready to bomb there.

But take all of that with a grain of salt, I'm probably the worst UFO player there is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 18:16:04 2012 No.9628336 >>9628333 And Murasa's final spell can be cheesed like nobody's business if you just get the movement down. When you learn it you'll never fail it again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 19:23:34 2012 No.9628528 >>9628002 >Riz vs Anonymizer That made my day, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 19:36:23 2012 No.9628568 Good bullet hell games that aren't Touhou?

Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Fri Aug 24 19:37:09 2012 No.9628574

>>9628568
all of Cave's games
Crimzon Clover
Samidare
Kamui
GuwangeDash
RefleX
HELLSINKER
Jamestown
Tori-Tatsu
Tori-Tatsu 2 (still in development I think)
PatriotDark
TKKN99
La Soeur de Barrage
Blue Wish Resurrection
rRootage
Royal Edoma Engine
Suwapyon
Hitogata Happa

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 19:38:09 2012 No.9628576 >>9628046 I'm sorta lucky in that regard, I have a learning disability, but it's one of those ones that only makes you bad at learning stuff you don't like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 19:39:54 2012 No.9628577 it's just me or captcha got more difficult

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 19:39:54 2012 No.9628578 File: 6 KB, 155x131, kaori says huh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9628574 >Jamestown >good

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 19:42:54 2012 No.9628583 Why is Ketsui so popular? The best video games are ones that encourage improvisation, and creative play. But Ketsui has a very rigid scoring mechanic, it's like "no fun allowed: the game"

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 19:43:39 2012 No.9628584 >>9628583 people like to play those kind of games

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 19:44:09 2012 No.9628590 File: 217 KB, 279x350, uh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9628578 You make it sound like it's not

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 19:47:58 2012 No.9628602 >>9628578 Who are you quoting?

>>	Gensokyo Lovely Maiden !nLH26A83Ug Fri Aug 24 19:47:58 2012 No.9628603 What I always hear is that Jamestown's gameplay is fine but the scoring is overly simplistic. I don't really play for score so I don't know about that.

Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip Fri Aug 24 19:55:28 2012 No.9628629

>>9628528
It was a very fun match.
>>9628577
It has. Read the bulletin:
>Attention people who keep getting banned for mistyping CAPTCHA: You need to enter both words from now on. Google made this change—not us.
I miss 4chan before captcha. I think it was a lot better before.
>>9628583
Is any shmup really that popular?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 19:57:43 2012 No.9628637 >>9628629 and what a better moment to start gold accounts? just wait

>>	Exxel !Myon.xlUgo Fri Aug 24 23:48:41 2012 No.9629749 File: 197 KB, 700x700, 6a1e10b191132cc8da14abd15b4166f8e550d4c3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Streaming some Normal PCB for fun, probably go for some clears on shot types I haven't done yet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 23:49:26 2012 No.9629753 >>9629749 Oops, forgot link. twitch.tv/exxelent

Kuro !!4HfZzLCopKV Fri Aug 24 23:51:42 2012 No.9629769

Why is Mountain of Faith so hard?

Not talking about patterns, it's just the fucking WALLMAKU that keeps freaking me out, and there's always this ONE passage you can go through, however my gamepad is a piece of shit and I miss movement/don't move at all.

At least I made it to Kanako with 2 misses and a shit ton of bombs on spellcards on Normal, then her last spellcards fucking destroy me.

tl;dr how do i get better at wallmaku

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 23:57:11 2012 No.9629794 >>9629769 Get a better controller, by the sounds of it. That, or use a bomb.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 24 23:57:29 2012 No.9629796 >>9629769 Use your keyboard. And don't stick too far down the screen, slip through holes as soon as you can.

>>	Dexwyde !mbHjxjfHlA Sat Aug 25 01:25:38 2012 No.9630105 >>9628568 Akai Katana is the best game

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 01:49:42 2012 No.9630231

>>9628333
>>9628336

>Murasa's nonspells are static

That's... interesting, but I'm not sure how to use this information. With the bullets being so dense, I can't imagine that there's anything like a safespot.

>Murasa's final spell can be cheesed like nobody's business if you just get the movement down. When you learn it you'll never fail it again.

Could you give me a hint? I'm not going to watch any replays, as I end up just copying exactly what the person in the replay did, which makes my victory feel disappointingly hollow.

On Normal, I could dodge the spell for awhile by circling around the entire screen. My thought process was that it would make her bullets spread out and give me more time to dodge them, and I came close to capturing it a few times. On Hard, though, her waves seem to take longer to dissipate, and circling around the entire screen just means you have bullets coming at you from all sorts of different directions. Are you supposed to only move slightly, like streaming, then?

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 01:59:42 2012 No.9630265

>>9628603
If you're being honest, then you score by activating what's called vaunt (closest thing to a bomb you get), which drains the meter, and keep it from emptying completely by collecting items. Longer combos and more people (every active vaunt doubles your point multiplier) boost your score. Or you can milk the bosses forever. That's the game's glaring flaw.

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sat Aug 25 02:03:42 2012 No.9630295 >>9630265 Not literally forever, they timeout after a while. No different from 2hu boss milking, though perhaps a bit longer.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 02:17:22 2012 No.9630364 [DELETED]

>>9630231
Compare these two replays:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21287
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=22630

You can see that I have similar strategies for the nonspells here. It may be hard to notice, but it's there. If you want me to, I can draw you a map. As for last spellcard, it's completely static. I honestly think it is harder on Normal than on Lunatic. You can't skip it, so being able to save your resources helps a lot, but that doesn't mean that you can't use them.
>Could you give me a hint? I'm not going to watch any replays, as I end up just copying exactly what the person in the replay did, which makes my victory feel disappointingly hollow.
If you are afraid of copying, then why are you asking for advice? You will find it hard to do so anyway. I'm not trying to question your intentions; I just think that you are putting yourself at a disadvantage.
>Are you supposed to only move slightly, like streaming, then?
No. I would still do it by moving between the corners.

Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip Sat Aug 25 02:18:46 2012 No.9630371

>>9630231
Compare these two replays:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21287
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=22630

You can see that I have similar strategies for the nonspells here. It may be hard to notice, but it's there. If you want me to, I can draw you a map. As for last spellcard, it's completely static. I honestly think it is harder on Normal than on Lunatic. You can't skip it, so being able to save your resources helps a lot, but that doesn't mean that you can't use them.
>Could you give me a hint? I'm not going to watch any replays, as I end up just copying exactly what the person in the replay did, which makes my victory feel disappointingly hollow.
If you are afraid of copying, then why are you asking for advice? You will find it hard to do so anyway. I'm not trying to question your intentions; I just think that you are putting yourself at a disadvantage.
>Are you supposed to only move slightly, like streaming, then?
No. I would still do it by moving between the corners.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 02:24:19 2012 No.9630397 >>9628568 Raiden Fighters JET Great Mahou Daisakusen Battle Garegga Armed Police Batrider

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 02:32:59 2012 No.9630439

>>9630231
>Murasa's last card
Move to the furthest corner when she spawns her first bullet ring. The second she starts reappearing next to you, move to the opposite corner. After that, circle the screen (cw or ccw doesn't matter, pick your poison), making sure to get into the corners every time she spawns. You'll really just be moving in a square, pouncing only when she starts to reappear, not skipping any corner stops. This movement pattern should line up some nice paths in her rings for you to move straight through without much hassle.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 03:16:29 2012 No.9630573

I just had seven spare lives going into stage 5 SA.
I thought this was it, so I went and had some coffee to calm my nerves; got back and lost 6 lives on stage 5 to stupid mistakes before dying to Okuu's shrinking falling suns card (forgotten its name).
I'm going to take a walk to calm my rage.

I suppose I'm almost there though, maybe doing them chronologically isn't so hard after all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 03:35:10 2012 No.9630631 >>9628568 eXceed 3rd

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 03:54:33 2012 No.9630696

>>9630371

>If you are afraid of copying, then why are you asking for advice?

Because I would be applying the advice myself, and trying to make it work. Even if I end up doing the exact same thing as someone else anyway, it's not as if I was directly copying them. If I watch a good replay, when I go back to playing, my thoughts are "Do I copy what that person did and take it easy, or do I purposefully try to do something different just to make things harder for myself?" If I'm only taking advice, I'm still analyzing the patterns and trying to find my way through with that advice in mind, instead of just KNOWING the way through and doing that.

Honestly, it was your replay of UFO's Stage 5 on Normal that you gave me that brought me to this opinion. After watching your replay a couple of times, the level was an absolute breeze. I kicked Shou's ass like it was nothing. Yet, it didn't feel like I really did anything. I just followed what you did. It made things ridiculously easier with very little effort on my part; it felt like cheating. Besides, the first people to beat these games didn't have replays to follow, so why should I? Admittedly, they didn't have people giving them tips and advice, but hey, I'm not trying to be SUPER hardcore.

My sentences are probably shit and I'm likely not making sense, but it's late and I'm super tired. I'll put in some more attempts tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 05:14:48 2012 No.9630902 >>9628568 Give Trouble Witches a try.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 06:14:34 2012 No.9631040
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>>9621116
>>9622611
>>9622709
>Could you tell me how to properly handle Yuyuko's second and third card on normal?
>Oh and the timing for the penultimate card on ReimuA, I don't quite get how does it work. I always end with a bit under 50k when I go for the multi-border thing.

I'm a bit late. I had some long nights at work lately, but now the weekend has arrived.

Refer to this replay while reading the next few posts. It goes over how to supergraze Yuyuko's second and third spells as well as tips on getting the second border after her fifth spell.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23414

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 06:16:07 2012 No.9631046
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>>9631040
For Yuyuko's second spell, you want to start circling from the upper left. Spinning around while grazing isn't much of an issue (though the differece between Reimu's focused and unfocused speeds in PCB can be pretty jarring), but there are two crucial misdirection points. When transitioning from clockwise to counter-clockwise, you'll want to make sure the bubbles to the right of you don't get in your way by staying up high. When transitioning from counter-clockwise to clockwise, you want to misdirect some bubbles from the left side of the screen by staying low and off to the right. In both cases, you will need to slip through a line of butterflies. The good news is that the butterflies are static. The bubbles are static as well (and then aimed), but they actually desync from the butterflies over time. The route will be mostly the same for every wave, but you might need to adjust your positioning slightly for the last couple transitions. After practicing it for a while, you'll know what I mean.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 06:17:07 2012 No.9631051
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>>9631046
For Yuyuko's third spell, you can abuse the fact that she will continuously reset where her blue bullets are aimed until maximum density is reached to find a safespot to abuse the ridiculous amount of graze the curvy lasers give you as they contract. First, start off in the corner, then look for the spot where her first ring of bullets is fired. Position yourself just to the right of it, then proceed to rhythmically move up and down, preferrably with your border, collecting mad graze. Note that the laser tails are deceptively large, so do not rush. Also be sure you move up enough sp that the lasers don't clip you as they close in again. Eventually, the bullets will force you to move. How long you wish to stay in the same spot is up to you and how risky you want to be. In my replay, I do an extra trick where I sit inside the explosion one extra time on the left side of the screen. Only attempt that if you're really sure what you're doing, because the risk/reward ratio isn't worth it unless you are. After you escape, simply move up and down and collect as much graze from the clumps of lasers are you are comfortable with, only moving enough to be outside of the butterfly explosion radius.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 06:19:08 2012 No.9631056
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>>9631051
Yuyuko's fifth spell is tricky with ReimuA, as you have probably noticed. As another person mentioned, don't shoot her after finishing the previous spell, since she does take damage for a short time, which will cut into your cherry+ you're trying to gather. As far as I can tell, her fan still gives cherry proportional to the damage Yuyuko receives. The homing shots have a higher cherry to damage ratio, though, so you want to avoid hitting her directly with your forward shot as much as possible. My replay actually doesn't handle this very well since I almost never use ReimuA, so I'm running around haphazardly trying to avoid being directly underneath Yuyuko. Timing out the spell marginally helps with getting the border as the spell ends because the little "petals" become slightly more dense over time. More important than that, however, is when you actually finish the spell. First and foremost, you want to make sure Yuyuko is centered when you kill her. You also want to kill her right after she shoots the purple wave of butterflies. It also helps if you were sitting in the middle of the screen during the previous set of butterflies (I forgot to do this, so I almost didn't get the border). Combine all these things together, and you should have enough bullets on the screen to cancel to get the border before the survival spell starts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 08:18:36 2012 No.9631253 How many of you actually have an XBOX 360? or you just play 2hoo all the time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 08:21:36 2012 No.9631259 >>9631253 I have a Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 08:22:06 2012 No.9631261 >>9631253 The only console I have is a PS1. A 360 would be good to have for STGs but I can't justify the expense, you can emulate most things with MAME anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 08:24:21 2012 No.9631266 >>9631259 >>9631261 But you can't get the arranges and different extra modes. Besides, there are a lot of shmups that haven't been emulated/bootlegged yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 08:25:21 2012 No.9631270 >>9631266 Like I said, can't justify the expense.

>>	Dexwyde !mbHjxjfHlA Sat Aug 25 08:26:36 2012 No.9631275 >>9631253 I xbawks here

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 08:27:36 2012 No.9631278 >>9631253 I have one, but I only use it for fighting games, I can't play shmups without a keyboard.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 08:35:43 2012 No.9631293

>>9631270

I'm very fond of the arrange modes.. I generally enjoy then more than the game thenselves... at least for scoring they are more flexible and fun than the original games.

I can't let a day pass without playing some Futari Arrange or Espgaluda Black Label (though in this one I still have problems to score well).

Dexwyde !mbHjxjfHlA Sat Aug 25 08:45:43 2012 No.9631306

>>9631293
>Futari Arrange

Shit sucks.

Best to worst:
Akai Katana Shin & Zetsu
Espgaluda II Black Label
Mushihime-sama HD
Ketsui X-Mode
Deathsmiles 2X
Pink Sweets
Daifukkatsu BL / Ketsuipachi
Daifukkatsu Arrange A
Deathsmiles 1.1 / MBL 1.1
Muchi Muchi Pork
Daioujou BL X-Mode
Futari

note: I've barely played most of these.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 08:51:58 2012 No.9631316

>>9631306

Eeeeeeh? Why don't you like Futari Arrange? is it because it's easy to survive on it? Try to score and you'll know what's difficulty, specially in the bosses since you have to fight without a shield while your rank is maxed to get the maximum scoring from then. Obviously, you can use the "Fever mode" on then but they doesn't last a whole boss, even on the 1st stage one.

And If you manage to no-miss the game, there is allways maniac and ultra difficulty to beat.

>>	Dexwyde !mbHjxjfHlA Sat Aug 25 09:06:59 2012 No.9631347 >>9631316 I just think it's boring since the mechanics aren't interesting. The best arrange modes could easily pass as an arcade game, but Futari's just seems like something they slapped together as a cuhrazy console mode.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 09:19:30 2012 No.9631374 >>9631266 I'm already shitty at many enjoyable games. I don't need to get more for the time being.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 09:19:46 2012 No.9631378 >>9631347 Dunno if you've watched this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCJ7Yw9sChY be sure to have the subtitles on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 09:20:45 2012 No.9631384 >>9631378 Ah, my bad... I thought for a moment that you were talking about 1.5 as well as arrange... anyway, if you haven't seen that video, enjoy it.

>>	Dexwyde !mbHjxjfHlA Sat Aug 25 09:24:30 2012 No.9631397 >>9631384 Futari is one of my favorite games of all time, I just think the arrange sucks.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 10:01:54 2012 No.9631469

>>9628576
Lucky anon. One of the best parts about my learning disability is the fact that no game will ever lose the replay value. I can play it again and again and never improve, therefore, endless replay value!

Even if I will never see anything past Ichirin in UFO Lunatic, I'll still play. It's no fun being a sponge doing nothing but staring at the ceiling all day, might as well do something~!

Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sat Aug 25 10:17:35 2012 No.9631512

>>9630397
None of those are really bullet hells, though.

>>9631266
Forever without DFKBL and Ketsuipachi...
Though I do have access to Deathsmiles NA; 1.1 MBL is surprisingly hilariously ridiculous and fun, especially with the svamp vitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 10:38:36 2012 No.9631552 >>9631512 If you're really good, the Raiden Fighters series will treat you to some CAVE-like patterns towards the endgame. But yeah, it really isn't a bullet hell outside of that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 10:39:51 2012 No.9631557 Trying to 1CC PCB normal! http://livestream.com/seppostream/

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>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 10:42:36 2012 No.9631564 Hey guys... what if... what if we consider the Metal Slug Series as shmups?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 10:48:51 2012 No.9631573 >>9631564 Nobody will because they aren't. Go talk to /v/ about them, I think they like Metal Slug unless they don't anymore for some retarded reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 10:55:32 2012 No.9631587 >>9626221 Nobody is going to pay attention to or care about what you're playing on your PSP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 11:01:04 2012 No.9631606 >>9631564 They aren't STGs, but they sure are fun. But in non-STG related news, I 1CCed the American version of Castlevania 3 a few days ago. It was a nice change of pace from getting destroyed in Dimahoo and IaMP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 11:04:19 2012 No.9631612 >>9631606 Which side character did you use?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 11:09:55 2012 No.9631621 >>9631612 Sypha. It really didn't feel all that difficult, and I had only played about 30 or so full runs prior. Most of my practice in that game was through "Stage Practice." Maybe eight of that and I was pretty much good to go.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 12:20:34 2012 No.9631803

>>9628286

I'm improving really well, I think. Managed to get to Murasa with six extra lives, two bombs, and full power.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23425

Of course, I have very little practice against Murasa, so I sucked horribly against her. I'm gonna practice the hell out of Stage 4 just to fight against her some more, but I'm proud of the fact that I've now made it to Stage 5 on a regular run.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 12:40:38 2012 No.9631845

>>9631803
Great stages 1-4. See, it's not that hard. Like you said, you need some practice on her last cards, but it's only a matter of time until you clear.

I'm not sure if shooting the umbrellas on Kogasa's last card is smart. At least, I never did that; they just spawn more bullets and you could use that time to shoot her.

>>	Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip Sat Aug 25 13:56:16 2012 No.9632098 >>9630573 You drink coffee to calm your nerves? Taking breaks during runs doesn't seem to work for me. It's cost me some good runs. >>9631803 I think that you are doing fine.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 14:46:01 2012 No.9632321

>>9631845

Ah, yeah, I was just experimenting to see if that would work. I need to use a bomb to get through Nazrin's last card and Kogasa's second-to-last card, but that doesn't leave me with any bombs for Kogasa's last card. Even if I die to that card, I still need to use a bomb to get through it or I'll die again. It's wasteful, so I tried to do something different. It didn't work, obviously, but I think I'll eventually be able to manage a 1cc despite wasting a few resources there.

I made a number of attempts on Stage 5, and good lord I still fucking hate all those curvy lasers. Fuck Shou.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 15:09:09 2012 No.9632406 >>9632321 Yep, Shou can suck shit. Stage 1 Nazrin's last card was static on Lunatic, so I'd guess it's static on hard. You should be able to use that to your advantage. Of course, I could be wrong.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 17:01:34 2012 No.9632874
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Something is seriously wrong here. This was my very first time fighting Byakuren, yet I succeeded. I had seven lives before Shou and wasted three on her, so I did have plenty of resources, but still, final boss beaten on the first try?

>>	Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip Sat Aug 25 17:09:49 2012 No.9632912 >>9632874 With that number of resources, it seems okay. Congrats.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 17:10:04 2012 No.9632914 >>9632874 You're awesome, that's what.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 17:19:24 2012 No.9632952 >>9632874 Did you capture anything?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 17:30:53 2012 No.9632993 >>9632952 Second, fourth and fifth. I decided to upload the replay. http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23446

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 17:37:33 2012 No.9633013 >>9632874 Sorry, I mean four lives on Shou. I got an extra life before Byakuren.

>>	Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip Sat Aug 25 17:39:18 2012 No.9633017 >>9632993 I think you did well. I am impressed. I think your dodging in the last part of Byakuren's final card was heroic.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 17:55:12 2012 No.9633066

>>9632406

I'm pretty sure it's static on Hard, but it's still really complicated. The giant crystals swing low enough to hit you, so you have to dodge ABOVE them. That's all fine and dandy the first time, but the next time, you have to dodge through three layers of bullets to move up, in addition to having to dodge the giant red bubbles Nazrin shoots out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 18:46:47 2012 No.9633232 http://www.livestream.com/anonymizer Going to practice PCB Normal/Sakuya-A for 40 minutes to an hour.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 19:56:29 2012 No.9633508 >>9633232 Why would you ever score with Sakuya A.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 20:06:04 2012 No.9633548 >>9633508 Because she has her own scoreboard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 21:43:56 2012 No.9634006 I hadn't played Crimzon Clover yet, but I just started on >>9628574's recommendation. You have to play this game if you haven't already, shit's awesome.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 22:15:26 2012 No.9634169 File: 173 KB, 480x640, 1344727835940.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Exxelent streaming more Touhou 6 normal 1cc attempts, wish him a Happy Birthday. www.twitch.tv/exxelent

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sat Aug 25 22:16:47 2012 No.9634177 File: 58 KB, 651x441, 4-It_s_Full_Of_Stars.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9634006 Just wait 'till you get to Unlimited mode.

Anonymous Sat Aug 25 23:39:36 2012 No.9634380
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>>9632321

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23453

I have been sitting here for the last hour doing NOTHING but practicing this stage. I'm ashamed of how frustrated I am; it's only been an hour!

This was the best I could do overall. I had a couple of runs where the Stage portion was PERFECT, but I didn't save those replays because I would die three times in a row to a nonspell or spellcard or whatever of Murasa.

Murasa's second-to-last card is the most Goddamn horrible fucking frustrating thing on the planet. I've managed to capture it a couple of times, and I see the pattern to it, but holy fucking shit my fingers will just not do it. I'll be sitting in the narrow stream of safety, but then part of my mind thinks "Man, those bullets on the right are really close!" and makes me move a bit to the left and into bullets before the part of my mind that isn't fucking retarded can stop it. There's nothing like dodging OUT of complete safety and directly INTO bullets MULTIPLE TIMES ON A SINGLE ATTEMPT. I'm beyond frustrated right now.

As for Murasa's final spell card, I'm not finding the pattern to it at all. I obviously screwed it up on this run after my bomb, making her spawn on the edges instead of the corners because I had the wrong timing to move to the next corner, but even when I manage to get squarely in the corners, it's not like the path is obvious. There have been moments where I'd find these wonderfully clear pathways, heading in straight lines through these nice gaps towards the center of the expanding circles of bullets, but I can only follow these paths for a short while before I get clipped by a bullet on one of the inner circles. I'm not finding this to be simple or easy or whatever it was that people called it earlier at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 25 23:44:51 2012 No.9634384 >>9634380 >but then part of my mind thinks "Man, those bullets on the right are really close!" and makes me move a bit to the left and into bullets before the part of my mind that isn't fucking retarded can stop it. Every time I play. I feel you, man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 00:00:44 2012 No.9634416 >>9634169 Dude you suck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 00:02:29 2012 No.9634421 >>9634416 Bully alert! Be a stand-byer, not a bystander, /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 00:10:52 2012 No.9634442 >>9634421 I know I'm not very good at this game but I mean damn. I don't think I could play that badly even if I tried. And he's streaming this shit? Why? That's just embarrassing.

None !fnMKPCBBmE Sun Aug 26 00:13:56 2012 No.9634449

>>9632874
Sanae's frogs lay waste to that stage.

>>9634177
>>9634006
CC Unlimited is fucking awesome, despite the fact that I can't clear the first stage. Dem alternate stage tracks.

And that game is strange for me in the fact that I do better in Original mode rather than Simple. lol Rank mechanics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 00:15:11 2012 No.9634450 >>9634442 It's interesting to watch a beginner, also people can give him help in his streams.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 00:34:13 2012 No.9634511 And he was even doing pretty good at the end.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 00:39:24 2012 No.9634531 >>9634442 no he's not good, but his voice alone makes it worth it. I could listen to him all day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 00:41:39 2012 No.9634541 >>9634380 Don't worry man, you'll get the clear soon, just chill and take it easy.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 00:51:39 2012 No.9634561

>>9634380
I just tried her last spell, and it works the same way for me. Corner to corner, dodge everything piss-easily. 'Cept in the beginning of the card it can be a bit annoying when she moves so slowly and the bullets overlap in retarded ways, but you just have to be brave and go around them. She certainly gives you enough time to do that.

I practised this stage for two weeks before I moved on. I still can't do her second spell consistently. Just take it easy. Of course, you remind me of myself so much that you probably can't. I sure was frustrated to death.

Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sun Aug 26 01:05:00 2012 No.9634592

>>9634449
Simple's rank is hardly anything to worry about, since even at max rank it's still way less than even Original, and because of how rank is set 200% of the time that you're at max rank you've got bombs available if you need 'em.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 01:14:49 2012 No.9634619

First time getting to Nue, fuck this shit. I dislike summoning UFOs in the first place, the whole stage is nothing but summoning UFOs and remembering where each little enemy will spawn. Kogasa's second card is irritating, but her instant death lasers piss me the fuck off. And remember how I said I dislike UFOs? I have to shoot them during the boss fight now? However long it takes for me to clear this stage, it's 100% too long. I want to unplay this.

But somebody be so kind and tell me what I should be doing on Undefined Darkness. Not what I was trying to do, at least. And the Red and Blue UFO cards, I'm not sure what to shoot and they disgust me.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23454

>>	None !fnMKPCBBmE Sun Aug 26 01:21:20 2012 No.9634633 >>9634592 I think my stumbling block with CC Simple is the same as with 10 Desires in that I feel like I have to pointblank everything. And I'm not that good with Psikyo-style fast bullets. It's more frustrating than anything else.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 01:43:59 2012 No.9634675

>>9634619
>her instant death lasers piss me the fuck off.
It's ok. I've only captured it once out of 50 or so attempts. Totally acceptable to bomb it.
>Red UFO
Stay on the left or right side at the start to misdirect all the bullets. Work your way back to the center and shoot, but make sure to go back to the opposite side when the next wave of UFOs spawn.
>Blue UFO
Is there more to this card than just dodging? The lasers aren't too dense from my experience.
>Undefined Darkness
Starting from one of the top corners, I move back and forth in a "U" pattern, moving down slowly to get as much damage in as possible. Moving in a full rectangle is safer, but you might time out if you lost too much power beforehand.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 01:58:21 2012 No.9634704

>First time getting to Nue, fuck this shit.
first time on an ex boss, don't understand patterns
your response should be "i guess i should learn this" not "fuck this shit"
>I dislike summoning UFOs in the first place, the whole stage is nothing but summoning UFOs and remembering where each little enemy will spawn.
While I don't like UFO Extra, this is a pretty piss poor excuse when the stage's enemy patterns are pretty simple for an EX stage.
>Kogasa's second card is irritating
dodgem
>but her instant death lasers piss me the fuck off.
Try moving with the lasers, that seems to help some people. Or just bomb. Flash is one of those cards that is super hard all the way until it clicks and it's easy.
>And remember how I said I dislike UFOs? I have to shoot them during the boss fight now? However long it takes for me to clear this stage, it's 100% too long. I want to unplay this.
ok then stop playing
seriously having to blow up options is not something new nor is it difficult
>But somebody be so kind and tell me what I should be doing on Undefined Darkness.
Holy shit I'm surprised you got that far giving your scale of bitching.
>Not what I was trying to do, at least. And the Red and Blue UFO cards, I'm not sure what to shoot and they disgust me.
Have you not watched any replays? Blue UFO can be hard, but they're still extremely simple cards. Red is just some misdirection and Blue is "shoot the UFOs that spawn on the lower half and ezdodge lasers".

hang on i'll do a replay or whatever

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 02:00:55 2012 No.9634713

>>9634619

Doing that well against Nue on your first time reaching her is quite amazing. In general, it looks like you dodge and move better than I do now, and I beat Nue a long time ago. You'll have her defeated in no time.

If you'd just like a replay to watch: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=22542

I'm confused as to why you're summoning so many rainbow UFOs. They don't give you anything for survival; there's nothing wrong with just collecting the UFOs you want and leaving the others stay where they are.

Kogasa's third spell pissed me off for the longest time, but there's a trick to it that makes it MUCH easier: stay a little bit up the screen instead of at the bottom. You don't want to go up too high, but there's a height where your focused horizontal speed matches with the lasers (as they slow down) really well. Find this height, and as the lasers slow down from spinning, move in the same direction as them and try to stay between them. It makes dodging the lasers much simpler.

Undefined Darkness is a tricky card. You want to be JUST under Nue whenever she decides to move, so that way she doesn't travel too far down the screen, allowing you to stay under her and keep firing. Eventually you'll run out of room, so you'll need to bomb or dodge really well and get back to the very top of the screen to lure her up there. Then go back to slowly dragging her down the screen.

The Red UFO card is just streaming, you look like you had a good handle on it. A bit of practice and you'll have it. For the Blue UFO card, don't feel compelled to shoot down UFOs if you don't have to; taking them down means there will be fewer things to worry about, yes, but shooting UFOs means you're not shooting Nue.

Just relax; you'll take down Nue shortly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 02:32:51 2012 No.9634785 >>9634704 Eh, you're right. I'll stop playing. I'm not having fun.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 02:50:33 2012 No.9634818

I made a replay for you anyways. Nothing special, not a score run, I die a few silly times.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23457

Might help, might not. The bomb in that post-Kogasa section is to advance the big fairies to make them spit out UFO tokens except I didn't execute it nicely. I mess up Blue UFO because I didn't expect the UFOs to spawn in that particular place and direction (which is basically what makes the card difficult in the first place), so I guess that was a flop.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 02:55:49 2012 No.9634826

>>9634713
>I'm confused as to why you're summoning so many rainbow UFOs
More multicolor tokens for more of what you want, more bullet cancels, make-up UFO if you screw up what you wanted, etc. You can fire off a crapton in this stage. They should definitely be used as support.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 03:01:40 2012 No.9634843
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Holy shit.
So yesterday I tried to pick up Double Spoiler (never really been interested in the photo games) and it's hard as HELL.
I'm not new to Touhou; I have already 1cc'ed some of the games (4) on normal.
But this is just ridiculous. I have no idea how I am supposed to clear the later ones.

Pic related.
Apparently I don't have enough autism to be good at this game, but I sure am autistic enough to try one card over 400 times in a row.
Am I the only one having problems with the photo games? (StB isn't much better)

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 03:05:41 2012 No.9634856 >>9634843 DS is easier than StB.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 03:06:26 2012 No.9634857 >>9634856 And yes, both games are harder than the integer windows games at Normal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 03:06:56 2012 No.9634858 >>9634843 You're not alone. I can't even look in their general direction without vomiting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 03:09:11 2012 No.9634867 How come I can easily 1CC MoF,EoSD,PCB and IN after like 4 tries while struggling with something easy as TD? I fucking die to stupid shit all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 03:10:42 2012 No.9634874 >>9634867 Bomb everything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 03:13:11 2012 No.9634886 >>9634867 Don't let bombs go to waste and trance whenever picking up a lot of life and bomb fragments.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 03:52:57 2012 No.9634958 >>9634843 Well, you've made about twice the amount of progress as I did in almost the same play time, so I say you are doing pretty well.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 03:54:22 2012 No.9634962

>>9630696
>Honestly, it was your replay of UFO's Stage 5 on Normal that you gave me that brought me to this opinion. After watching your replay a couple of times, the level was an absolute breeze. I kicked Shou's ass like it was nothing.
I'd like to see that replay... Riz, anybody? Is it possible?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 03:59:37 2012 No.9634971 >>9634962 You could just use the search function in the replay archive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 05:13:04 2012 No.9635151 fml I can't beat GFW on easy, I've never felt this retarded before

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 06:09:01 2012 No.9635249 File: 708 KB, 640x480, th013.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All of my hate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 06:14:01 2012 No.9635253 >>9635151 >playing on easy Get the fuck out.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 08:07:51 2012 No.9635451
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>>9635253
Please, shut your stupid mouth. Thank you.

>>9634971
http://replays.gensokyo.org/index.php?u=Riz&g=12&p=&t=1&d=2&ch=0
which one?

In other news: finally, I did it!

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 08:10:36 2012 No.9635457
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>>9634843
When i started playing StB, it took me 300 photos to capture one of Cirno's cards. So i quitted because it's too hard. After a year, i returned and captured Mokou's card in 50 photos. It took me 1000 photos to capture Byakuren's last card and now i can do it in 100 photos. It depends on your skill, not your autism.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 08:13:47 2012 No.9635465 >>9635451 Only three misses? Pretty hardcore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 08:17:04 2012 No.9635474 >>9635465 And still I can barely do normalmodo of MoF and TD, would you believe it? Huh...

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 08:23:23 2012 No.9635483 File: 695 KB, 640x480, th015.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sleep forever, Nue. Jesus fuck, ZUN put everything I hate into one stage. Never again. >>9635451 Oh shit, very nice results. I concur with >>9635465

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 08:39:02 2012 No.9635501 >>9635451 How about you shut yours? It's because of idiots like you who think playing on Easy is acceptable we have so much secondary filth around here. >>9635465 >Bombs used: 13 In case you missed that part

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 08:43:51 2012 No.9635509 >>9635501 Secondary filth don't play games on easy because Tewi told them not to. They spend all their time dying to third stage bosses instead.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 08:49:22 2012 No.9635511 >>9635501 It's okay, I think. It took me around 15 bombs to clear UFO.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 08:52:07 2012 No.9635514

>>9635501
The people who mock either easymode or other players are always asked to hand in replays or scores to back up their statements as good players with experience and skill in the games. However, they never do post any. Are you different?

In the case of GFW, by the way, easy is rather hard due to the fact that you can abuse the freezing mechanic much less due to lesser amounts of onscreen bullets.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:10:03 2012 No.9635536

>>9635514
But I never said I'm good or that you need to be a super player to post here, just that playing seriously on easy is the most pathetic thing to do.

And what do you want me to post a replay of?
A GFW 1cc clear on Normal? Please, a monkey with half a brain can do that. Nothing to brag about.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:10:48 2012 No.9635535 >>9635509 Joke's on you, I get killed by Sakuya in eosd (stage 5 boss).

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:15:06 2012 No.9635541 File: 965 KB, 1280x960, fail.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got killed just after the last spell card :(

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:15:07 2012 No.9635544 >>9635536 > playing seriously on easy is the most pathetic thing to do Nope. Should I name some things that are far more pathetic? Let's start with shitposting...

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:16:56 2012 No.9635546 Ultra is the only difficulty in Touhou :V Anything else is too easy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:21:44 2012 No.9635557 >>9635546 Ultra 300 FPS you mean ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:25:29 2012 No.9635563 >>9635557 GFW Ultra no-freeze 600FPS

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:30:49 2012 No.9635573 >>9635563 Add no-vertical and always-shooting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:35:04 2012 No.9635583 >>9635573 >shooting Maybe if it's your first day playing. If it's not pacifist it's not a real 1CC.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:35:04 2012 No.9635584 File: 96 KB, 600x700, 1325112273085.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got killed in Suwako's last spellcard while she was exploding.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:37:19 2012 No.9635586 >>9635584 I feel you. Similar experiences today.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:40:00 2012 No.9635591
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>>9635584
Not as bad, but...

And to add further insult to injury, my score was shit. My chaining was shit. My everything was shit. Maybe one day I'll try a full run again, but when this shit happened, it just broke my spirit. Forever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 09:41:00 2012 No.9635592 >>9635583 >1CC Hah, try 1LC.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 10:12:41 2012 No.9635636 >>9635536 Rarely there are people who seriously play on easy, but don't do other difficulties as well. I can't think of any serious scorerunners who would only play easy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 10:24:17 2012 No.9635647 >>9635536 >Please, a monkey with half a brain can do that. I wish I had half a brain. ;_;

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 10:29:08 2012 No.9635662

Wow I just got my first normal 1cc (PCB) after a sleepless night and maybe still a little high from the speed I took last night and I couldn't play for shit back then. I fucked up everything from the Prismriver Sisters onward but it went kinda well considering all I have is this mini laptop and its shitty keyboard. Too tired to be really excited right now but I'm considering posting a replay after I sober up a bit.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 10:30:38 2012 No.9635664

>>9635636
I'm not talking about scorerunners but newbies who would choose to play the game on easy and then whine they can't even beat that rather then to actually try and get better at it by playing on normal.
Like these two here >>9635541 >>9635151

Scoring on easy is not the problem.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 10:36:53 2012 No.9635671

>>9635647
It's really easy dude.
The bullets are much harder to dodge then in the other games but here's the thing, you get tons of resources for freezing. You can finish the game with more then 500% motivation even after being hit multiple times.
So just freeze the shit out of everything.
And if something is too hard just Perfect Freeze your way through it, you'll get back those 100% in no time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 10:47:20 2012 No.9635694 GFW for easiest game, even on Lunatic. You must be retarded if you cannot beat at least Normal. Enjoy your learning disabilities.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 10:52:05 2012 No.9635701 >>9635694 Post a pic of you beating it with your monitor and speakers turned off if it's so easy.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 11:19:17 2012 No.9635767

I could do some PCB streaming tonight, if anyone would be interested. I have a bad habit of panicing during full runs, and even more so when someone is watching. I am trying to get rid of that, by testing streaming around.

I am quite bad in touhou though, so the gameplay will not be cool or anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 11:22:17 2012 No.9635771 >>9635767 Just scream in a mic and you'll be good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 11:23:32 2012 No.9635773 >>9635767 People apparently love watching shitty players, so don't worry about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 11:26:03 2012 No.9635777 >>9635773 We were all shitty at some point, just some were shittier than others, but still shitty, streams provide nostalgia.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 11:28:02 2012 No.9635783
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>>9624111
That's why I decided to wait for the red switches, despite them not being in stock for quite a while...In the end I got a Filco majestouch-II Ninja with MX-Red switches. I'm more than happy with it, despite it costing quite alot.

On another note...I finally beat IN on hard mode. That was quite a challenge, considering it's normal mode is easy, at least ten times as difficult as PCB hard for me anyway. I tried some EoSD hard out yesterday, and it seems the only problems I'm having is with patchy, and to a lesser extent, her level. It's looking to be much easier than IN as well it seems.
I'm gonna take a guess and say that IN has, to me anyway, the 3rd most difficult hard mode (I really doubt MoF and TD will top it, though I could be wrong)

Oh and of course, I beat IN on one of my worse runs, naturally. I find it strange that I can have a run that goes perfectly upto stage 4-5, then just collapses, yet the run were I actually had to death bomb the first boss ends up being a success.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 11:31:32 2012 No.9635785 >>9635777 >streams provide nostalgia Maybe it's just me, but I personally don't really like thinking about how bad I used to be.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 11:31:32 2012 No.9635786 >>9635773 >>9635771 I'll eat some dinner and then start streaming. It will be Normal ReimuA unless you come up with something silly I feel like trying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 11:46:54 2012 No.9635816 >>9635777 That too but it also makes me want to slap the streamer and just grab the keyboard and play myself, that would kinda defeat the purpose though.

Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip Sun Aug 26 12:13:39 2012 No.9635883

>>9634380
You just need to practice. There is also nothing wrong with bombing on Murasa, especially if you can do a perfect stage 4.
>>9634449
>Sanae's frogs lay waste to that stage.
That run was with SanaeA. Also, I don't think it makes a difference in survival, especially on Normal.
>>9634619
Check the archive or watch replays.
>>9634843
Sometimes you just need to take breaks. It will get easier once you return. I don't think you are doing badly.
>>9634857
I don't think they are in the same category to compare to.
>>9634867
You should watch some replays. TD might have the tendency to give you silly deaths.
>>9635591
I died a bunch of times to that attack before I got that 1-All. I don't like it very much. Doesn't the other ship have a different version of this attack?

Speaking of Cave games, I played Ketsui yesterday for about and hour and I think that I could probably clear it within a few days if I tried. I think it's a lot more gimmicky than the other shmups I've played.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:14:52 2012 No.9635884 >>9635785 >>9635816 I like it because it makes me realize how far I've come. I remember being terrible. I remember watching a replay of someone defeating Flandre and thinking that that was INSANE.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:17:22 2012 No.9635891 >>9635671 I can't 1CC any windows game. ;_;

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:31:35 2012 No.9635937

>>9634867

Because TD isn't easy. It's annoying hearing people call it the easiest when it really isn't...at all. You can't call it the easiest when PCB and MoF exist.
Some of the spells might be easier compared to the other games, yes, but you get so little lives that you're practically forced to play the game near perfectly.
TD is pretty much the only game that I'd restart if I died 1-2 times on stage 4

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:43:12 2012 No.9635967 >>9635937 Dude, what? TD harder than PCB and MoF? What the hell am I reading.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:45:27 2012 No.9635977

>>9635884
I still remember Letty's "flower wither away" spell on easy in PCB demo. It was my first danmaku-like experience. Man, was I entry-tier then...
>>9635937
Yes, there are easier games, but TD's main difficulty is the fact that you MUST take risks to gain everything. The worst is the spirit system. You start with "Invincibility+double the stuff, I must trance much!", then "I must get as much blues/whites as possible!" and suddenly you rage at Stage 1 midboss wisp spawnkilling you. Or run into bullets trying to catch as much as possible before they disappear.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:46:12 2012 No.9635980

>>9635937
But that's wrong. If you know how to use trance at the right time, you can have more lives than MoF and many more bombs than PCB. Seiga and Futo are so easy that most people can beat them without using a bomb at their first runs. You think PCB is easier because you have too many lives at the start, cherry borders and broken SakuyaA. If you try to do it with default 3 lives for any other characters, you'll find yourself getting wrecked at Prismriver sisters or Youmu.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:50:57 2012 No.9635987

>>9635967
>>9635980
I agree with him regarding PCB; even with not-SakuyaA and default lives it's still easier than TD (actually, I find Reimu A the easiest simply because her fourth stage is easier). I also consider EoSD easier, with MoF, IN, and TD all about on the same level.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:51:42 2012 No.9635989

>>9635967
>>9635980

I'm sorry what? I beat PCB hard with Reimu B on my 4th attempt. It was the game I moved from normal to hard mode on. 4 tries, that says it all for me.
MoF you can literally bomb through 3/4 of the spells in the game. All you do is figure out which spells you can't do and bomb them, tada.

Also I highly doubt you can have more lives in MoF...as I recall the max you can get is 7-9 were as in TD you can get around 6-7 if you get absolutely EVERY purple spirit.
As for having more bombs than PCB? What are you smoking?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:52:42 2012 No.9635993 >>9635989 More lives THAN in MoF* My bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:52:42 2012 No.9635994 >>9635777 I like watching shitty players stream. It reminds me that I'm not the only shitty player out there. （；＾ω＾）

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:53:27 2012 No.9635997 >>9635786 Ok, starting. http://livestream.com/seppostream/ My time is limited and stuff, so I won't stream for a long time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:56:12 2012 No.9636003 >>9635989 Do you know that using Trance doubles your life and bomb pieces you receive from spirits ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:57:02 2012 No.9636007 >>9636003 Yes I'm aware of that, even so I'm almost certain you get less lives and bombs in TD than any of the other games. Can anybody confirm this though?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:59:32 2012 No.9636015 >>9635989 What's it about 4 tries ? I beat TD Hard in my first try. And i know some people on /jp/ beat TD lunatic right after it's released.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 12:59:47 2012 No.9636017

>>9635989
Well I got to Yuyuko's last spellcard in PCB on Normal on my first attempt ever. TD on the other hand I 1cc'd completely on Normal on my first attempt and it wasn't really anything special.
Stage 4, 5 and 6 bosses are a joke in TD.
The danmaku is so easy you can even piss in a bottle while playing and don't need to worry about getting hit.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:01:47 2012 No.9636022

>>9635980
> If you know how to use trance at the right time, you can have more lives than MoF and many more bombs than PCB. Seiga and Futo are so easy that most people can beat them without using a bomb at their first runs.
It's the biggest bullshit I've ever read. Seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:03:48 2012 No.9636028 >>9636022 This part is true however >Seiga and Futo are so easy that most people can beat them without using a bomb at their first runs. I can confirm it myself.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:05:17 2012 No.9636032
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>>9635937
>It's annoying hearing people call it the easiest when it really isn't...at all.
>you get so little lives that you're practically forced to play the game near perfectly.
The last time I checked, there was very little "playing" to do in TD.

>>9635977
>TD's main difficulty is the fact that you MUST take risks to gain everything.
>"I must get as much blues/whites as possible!" and suddenly you rage at Stage 1 midboss wisp spawnkilling you. Or run into bullets trying to catch as much as possible before they disappear.
This is like complaining that PCB and IN force you to PoC for lives or UFO forces you to chase UFO tokens. If you're not good enough to take the risk, don't take the risk.

>>9635989
>MoF you can literally bomb through 3/4 of the spells in the game.
In both MoF and TD you can literally bomb and trance through every single spell in the game.

You guys are all playing the game incorrectly. Pic related. It's taken from the current TD world record.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:06:32 2012 No.9636037 The only thing that cought me off guard while playing TD for the first time were Miko's yellow rings.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:06:32 2012 No.9636039 >>9636007 How many bombs can you get from PCB ? I forgot because i hasn't played it for a long time. 1 bomb from Chen ? 1 bomb from Lily ? 1 bomb from stage 4 last fairy ? 1 bomb from Youmu ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:11:09 2012 No.9636048 >>9636015 Who 1cc'd lunatic on their first run, if you don't mind me asking? I'm skeptical about people beating hard on their first try also, but oh well whatever you say.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:15:13 2012 No.9636055 >>9636048 I 1cc'd Hard on my first attempt. I cleared Extra on my first attempt. I 1cc'd Lunatic on my second attempt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:17:03 2012 No.9636065 >>9636017 I find Miko to be one of the harder stage 6 bosses, second only to Eirin. She gives me alot more trouble than Byakuren, who is "supposed" to be difficult.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:19:33 2012 No.9636072

>>9636048
Well, technically it's not their first tries because the trial version was released months before. Although it only has 3 stages but people could get used to TD's mechanics from it. I myself played TD's trial version several times before the main version was released. Because i figured out when and how to use Trance, i abused the shit out of it in my first try.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:20:03 2012 No.9636076 >>9636055 Easy enough to say you did all that stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:23:48 2012 No.9636083 >>9636076 What more do you want.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:26:03 2012 No.9636093 >>9636048 I'm pretty sure Jaimers did, he even patched it to Ultra right away because it was too easy and beat that as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:29:21 2012 No.9636100 >>9636065 You have got to be kidding me. I can usually do Miko on perfect, no lives or bombs lost and I'm not bragging or anything, it's really nothing difficult. Byakuren on the other hand? I'm lucky if I lose less than 6 bombs and 3 lives on her.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:32:36 2012 No.9636115 File: 89 KB, 640x480, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 3 fucking continues i keep dying on sakuya i hate sakuya everything else is fine though remilia is easier than sakuya

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:33:22 2012 No.9636120 >>9636100 I'm not kidding. The few times I've fought byakuren she's never gave me any problems what so ever. Even Shou is far more difficult than her.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:33:51 2012 No.9636123 Fuck man I still haven't 1cc'd TD yet ;_;

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:45:24 2012 No.9636149

>>9636032
>This is like complaining that PCB and IN force you to PoC for lives or UFO forces you to chase UFO tokens. If you're not good enough to take the risk, don't take the risk.
Yeah, sure, but I don't have to orally please the boss to get additional life fractions, but only if everything else comes perfectly. In other games I can just play it safer and let stuff fall down. Put yourself in another player's place.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 13:52:29 2012 No.9636162 >>9636149 >In other games I can just play it safer and let stuff fall down. Why don't you do the same for TD.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:02:38 2012 No.9636186 >>9636162 That's not how divine spirits work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:06:53 2012 No.9636200 >>9636186 Be it letting items fall or letting spirits fade, the point is that you're losing something in exchange for being able to play safer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:11:38 2012 No.9636213 God damn it, I can't beat UFO even on easy. Am I doing something wrong? http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23466

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:12:53 2012 No.9636219 >>9636200 But he lets them fall to where it's to get them. He's not letting them fall off the screen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:14:08 2012 No.9636222 >>9636213 Probably. I just cleared UFO easy this morning with 1 or 2 deaths and those were because I was watching how prettily it was raining outside.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:17:08 2012 No.9636229 I still remember my first UFO easy 1cc, one of my more satisfying clears to this date. UFO never goes easy on you, even on easy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:19:09 2012 No.9636234 >>9636213 Yeah, playing on easy. You won't get any better this way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:21:44 2012 No.9636245 >>9636234 So I should be playing Lunatic right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:22:45 2012 No.9636249 >>9636245 Actually, yes. I'm not even kidding, you'll improve drastically. Not even the same dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:26:00 2012 No.9636266 >>9636245 If you want to get better then yes. Although Normal should suffice for now. But you can go for Lunatic if you want to.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:28:14 2012 No.9636269 >>9636249 I don't have enough autism to be able to slowly inch my way through the game by playing lunatic

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:30:31 2012 No.9636282 >>9636269 Then maybe you should try playing a different game.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:31:16 2012 No.9636285

>>9636213
6 UFOs not filled.
Deaths with 8 bombs in stock.

>>9636219
You can get some items by letting them fall, but not very many. Letting items fall in PCB or IN can account for up to 2 or 3 lives.

You can get most resource spirits by only collecting them between spells. Losing the stage portion ones accounts for maybe a single life in the end due to each life requiring more spirits than the last.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:36:23 2012 No.9636308 >>9636285 >Deaths with 8 bombs in stock This doesn't really matter that much in UFO since you don't lose them. You just don't get 2 additional ones after getting hit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:41:42 2012 No.9636329 >>9636308 8 total. In each of the instances, he had 1 or 2 bombs in stock that were lost.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:47:12 2012 No.9636349 Tried to 1cc EoSD normal on 120fps, failed at red magic. I don't like this one bit, most of my deaths were me stupidly crashing into bullets. I could definitely do it if my movement speed is of 60fps. Eternal Meek + 120fps = lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:50:57 2012 No.9636364 >>9636269 I like to practice on one difficulty level higher than whatever I'm trying to clear.

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 14:52:12 2012 No.9636369
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Whenever I see Hirow, all I can think about is how he doesn't have any hands to masturbate with.

Do you think Palm helps him with that?

His name would be awfully appropriate in that case.

Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip Sun Aug 26 15:35:58 2012 No.9636554 [DELETED]

>>9636213
I think you did fine; you just need to keep trying. I also think you need to bomb more. You die with bombs in stock a lot. I made you a replay: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23467

To be honest, this replay isn't that good. I'm not used to some of the UFO paths and tricks on Easy mode, so I skipped a lot of them or did them in harder ways than necessary. Don't take this replay too seriously or try to mimic it too closely. It has a lot of mistakes, but I think you can still learn from it. I think that you are very close to beating it. You should be able to get it the next time you try.

Also, don't listen to the spammers that are criticizing you for playing on Easy mode. I took my time on Easy mode when I was starting out and I think it payed off. Play what you are most comfortable with and don't be afraid to ask for advice.

Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip Sun Aug 26 15:37:43 2012 No.9636560
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>>9636213
I think you did fine; you just need to keep trying. I also think you need to bomb more. You die with bombs in stock a lot. I made you a replay: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23467

To be honest, this replay isn't that good. I'm not used to some of the UFO paths and tricks on Easy mode, so I skipped a lot of them or did them in harder ways than necessary. Don't take this replay too seriously or try to mimic it too closely. It has a lot of mistakes, but I think you can still learn from it. I think that you are very close to beating it. You should be able to get it the next time you try.

Also, don't listen to the spammers that are criticizing you for playing on Easy mode. I took my time on Easy mode when I was starting out and I think it payed off. Play what you are most comfortable with and don't be afraid to ask for advice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 15:44:28 2012 No.9636588 >>9636560 Ha Riz playing on easy. Gotta watch that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 18:23:11 2012 No.9637205 >>9635883 How far did you make it on the first credit, Riz? Also, play DoDonPachi(not Dai Ou Jou.) I actually like DDP a lot better than DOJ, too bad the blue label rom will never be ripped. ;_;

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 19:04:23 2012 No.9637341
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>>9635883
No, I believe that all ship types have the same attacks. This run was played with B-EXY. I've never played anything other than A-EXY and B-EXY. All that I know is that bosses get very grumpy when you use a hyper on them.

The previous one was played with A-EXY, almost the same shitty score in both runs. That is to be expected when you mess up the same shit time and time again. But at least I'm improving in some ways, I just need to boost my consistency. Sometimes, I perfect all the way up to the 1-4 boss. And other times, I die two times before the Stage 1-2 midboss. Of course, I only have about ~30 or so hours played in DOJ, so there's plenty of room for survival improvement.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 19:22:22 2012 No.9637392 >>9637205 I think I made it to stage 4. I don't like to use continues. Also, I think I like DOJ better that DDP. Either way, I won't be spending too much time on any Cave game. >>9637341 Maybe I was thinking about another pattern.

>>	waywayway Sun Aug 26 20:21:02 2012 No.9637596 >>9634380 Some part of this post is a banned URL, even after I removed all the URLs it had, so I'm pastebinning the original version of it and having someone else post it. AJVeiNhT

Anonymous Sun Aug 26 20:34:51 2012 No.9637650

>>9637596
>The nonspell right before it, though, is really pissing me off. So the lasers don't all aim directly at you, but just aim NEAR you? Forcing you to travel a good distance through that horribly dense bullet field? Bleh.
You'll love it on Lunatic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 23:36:33 2012 No.9638230 So how does UFO work? Am I supposed to be getting Red or Green UFOs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 23:40:51 2012 No.9638254 >>9638230 http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Undefined_Fantastic_Object/Gameplay#UFOs

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 23:45:52 2012 No.9638273 >>9638254 The advice in that section is all good and well if you actually use all your bombs before you die. If you're a noob like me, red UFOs, all day everyday. Make sure not to summon them as a boss appears, too. Fuck I hate it when that happens.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 23:49:07 2012 No.9638290 Green looks like it would be a good idea, since you can get them to drop a full bomb. Surely that beats a life piece?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 26 23:54:05 2012 No.9638300 >>9638273 I didn't even link the page you are referring to, but I guess I might as well now. http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Undefined_Fantastic_Object/Gameplay/Strategy#Usage_scenario

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 00:26:12 2012 No.9638415 >>9638290 Red UFOs give two life pieces, Green UFOs give a bomb and a bomb piece. Bombing everything isn't my style, but it works.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 00:44:06 2012 No.9638477 File: 193 KB, 481x351, EosdLP.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I made a LP of EoSD on lunatic. Check it out when you have the time and tell me what you think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KKfM6pNEjU

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 08:18:30 2012 No.9639903 bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 08:26:17 2012 No.9639929 How am I supposed to deal with Byakuren's third non spell? It's so fast my eyes can't even follow it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 08:40:52 2012 No.9639988 >>9639929 Practice makes perfect! I recommend copying a superplay, and then hitting up Stage Practice and just grinding it out for hours on end until you can do it in your sleep.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 08:42:37 2012 No.9639997 >>9638300 I was reading that for like a full minute wondering what u-sa-ge meant.

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 08:46:39 2012 No.9640011

>>9636028
>>Seiga and Futo are so easy that most people can beat them without using a bomb at their first runs.
>I can confirm it myself.
Well good to be you then. I'm serious. I still can't achieve TD extra end, stages 5 and 6 are simply too hard. And I am >>9635451.

How do I do Futo NBNT? And Seiga? Huh...

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 08:54:26 2012 No.9640038 >>9640011 Wait, wait, wait. So you're telling me you can do PCB on Hard with only 3 misses, but you can't do TD? Okay, there has to be something wrong with either you or me.

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 09:00:02 2012 No.9640063

Who the fuck cares about clears/perfecting? Scoring competition is the only way to weigh which game is more difficult. In which case, you've probably already seen enough PCB and TD world class replays to be able to determine which is the harder game.

Hardly any playing goes on in TD, Heartbeam and plenty of other Japanese players have already proved that. It's pretty much X X C X X C X X C to score. Certainly far more easy than PCB.

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 09:08:16 2012 No.9640106 [DELETED]

>>9640038
>So you're telling me you can do PCB on Hard with only 3 misses, but you can't do TD?
I think you'll be far more surprised when you learn that I am still unable to land a STABLE clear in MoF as someone other than Reimu A (or Marisa Bugged).
MoF and TD are very, very hard. Far harder than, say, UFO normal.

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 09:15:51 2012 No.9640143

>>9640038
>So you're telling me you can do PCB on Hard with only 3 misses, but you can't do TD?
I think you'll be far more surprised when you learn that I am still unable to land a STABLE normal clear in MoF as someone other than Reimu A (or Marisa Bugged).
MoF and TD are very, very hard. Much harder than, say, UFO normal.

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 09:18:51 2012 No.9640154

>>9640063
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that probably about 5-10% people who played Touhou went on and tried actually scoring in it, most of us non-superplayer folks only care about 1cc/survival. And we can't even do that properly so forget about trying to score.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 09:21:51 2012 No.9640168 >>9640143 Truth be told I'm actually still having some problems with MoF myself. Not with TD though. But UFO? UFO is hell, hardest touhou for me.

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 09:32:59 2012 No.9640222

>>9640143
MoF has some very dense bullet patterns. It requires a lot of micro tapping, which is fucking annoying on a pad. It's mostly easy because you can just bomb through everything and ignore the dense patterns.

Same with TD, you can just trancebomb through everything. But the patterns there are much easier than the patterns in MoF.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 09:49:22 2012 No.9640296 >>9640154 It seems like a lot of good Touhou players don't give a shit about score either. Probably, ZUN's systems just don't appeal to many people. If you don't like supergrazing then that kills most of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 10:27:17 2012 No.9640459 I still haven't beaten Aya on Normal ;_; I'm not really serious enough to watch videos and learn, or suchlike... so I guess I'll just keep grinding. I don't think MoF is very fun anyway. UFO is hard as hell for us grade schoolers too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 10:41:17 2012 No.9640532 >>9640038 That wasn't me (the guy who did pcb hard in 4 tries)

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 10:44:57 2012 No.9640545 >>9640459 For just about everything in MoF, just use a bomb. The patterns are stupidly dense at times (I'm looking at you, Sanae), but the game gives you tons of bombs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 10:49:01 2012 No.9640568 >>9640222 You can't trance nearly as much as you can bomb in MoF, and if you want more trance, then enjoy skirt sniffing the bosses which is pretty dangerous.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 10:52:01 2012 No.9640584 >>9640545 But I don't want to bomb everything in MoF, I want to dodge it because you know that's kinda the point of this game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 10:54:01 2012 No.9640599 >>9640584 I know, we all feel the same way. The truth of the matter is that bombing is the safest and easiest solution. The main goal of a 1CC is to make it to the end, not to do it with style.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 14:06:11 2012 No.9641208 Anyone streaming today?

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 17:13:38 2012 No.9641833

>>9640584
When I finally cleared MoF it was with a mix of capturing and bombing. Your goal in practice is to reduce the frequency of bombing, which stretches out your lives. Mountain of Faith (the spell) is a test of endurance, anything you can do to stay alive longer and/or chew up Kanako's HP increases your chances of clearing.

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 17:18:41 2012 No.9641852

>>9641833
I still remember dying to that spell 4 times because of nerves...I even saved a replay of it, I was so fucking pissed off. If I recall correctly, it was an amazing run upto stage 5, then I just began to panic and lost lives stupidly.

Then I had a terrible run dying multiple times before stage 5 then ended up beating the game with a life or 2 spare. Like what the fuck man.

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 18:01:44 2012 No.9642061
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>>9641852
For your viewing pleasure /jp/ : http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23500
Every time I watch this, I ask myself....how did I lose?
Thank fuck I'm much better now though.
Be warned, you will cringe towards the end at how fast everything turns from gold to shit.

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 18:45:05 2012 No.9642239

>>9642061
I really need to post this on Youtube; it's been gathering dust for months now. I always seem to make a mistake on stage 3 during my first time 1ccs; this was a pretty big one. I timed out Mountain of Faith for my first 1cc; in my second and third clears (with the other Reimus) I finished it normally.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23501

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 19:39:14 2012 No.9642503 [DELETED]

>>9642239
Stages 1-5 were all perfectly good, stage 6 is where you need work, especially the last non-spell and Otensui (my replay shows how to do the former reasonably well). About Mountain of Faith, your main problem is that you were too determined to stay underneath Kanako the whole time, which is nearly impossible. Prioritize survival, especially with Homing Amulet or Youkai Buster; the clock is on your side.

A more general piece of advice is move away from the bottom. If you're even half an inch above it you can move in 4 directions instead of 3.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 19:40:14 2012 No.9642508 >>9642503 Should have been a reply to >>9642061

Anonymous Mon Aug 27 19:46:39 2012 No.9642531

>>9642061
Stages 1-5 were all perfectly good, stage 6 is where you need work, especially the last non-spell and Otensui (my replay shows how to do the former reasonably well). About Mountain of Faith, your main problem is that you were too determined to stay underneath Kanako the whole time, which is nearly impossible. Prioritize survival, especially with Homing Amulet or Youkai Buster; the clock is on your side.

A more general piece of advice is move away from the bottom. If you're even half an inch above it you can move in 4 directions instead of 3.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 27 19:51:56 2012 No.9642546 >>9642531 Oh sorry I didn't mean to imply I needed advice for the game...I finished normal mode and hard mode for this game a while ago. I just posted that for entertainment incase anybody was interested in watching a perfect run turn to shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 28 07:26:30 2012 No.9644660 File: 346 KB, 640x480, 348M.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 355M would be very possible if the player supergrazed the attacks correctly, maybe even 360M if everything went perfectly. ReimuA PCB Stage 4, normal.

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