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If your favorite touhou is on this list, you are a dirty secondary. The list is based on canon appearances and the character's overall impact on Gensokyo. PC-98 characters were omitted for obvious reasons (they don't have a fandom).

Koakuma
Momiji
Tokiko
Kisume
Parsee
Letty
Rumia
Flandre
Chen
Lily White
Wriggle
Hatate
Tenshi
Iku
Yamame
Reisen 2.0
Yuugi
Koishi
Kyoygo
Yoshika
Kogasa
Tojiko
Futo
Mamizou
Nazrin
Ichirin
Shou

>> No.9167456
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>>9167441
doesn't have Alice

>> No.9167462

Is it possible to be a secondary if you play the games?

>> No.9167470

>>9167462
only if you can't 1cc normal with no additional lives

>> No.9167475

I'm a dirty secondary and my favorite 2hu isn't on the list. What now?

>> No.9167479

Secondary = does not play games
OP = faggot
By both the actual definition, and your list of personal favorites, I am not secondary scum, so do nott bother shitposting at me.

>> No.9167485

>>9167475
You are a dirty secondary. I never claimed that you'd be a primary if your character wasn't on the list.

>> No.9167491 [DELETED] 

>>9167479
My mistake, I misread your post. My favorite 2hu is on your list but I am still secondary scum. So much for your theory.

>> No.9167494
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Yes!

>> No.9167497

>>9167485
Touche.

>> No.9167498
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I'm OK with this

>> No.9167504

REAL FUCKING QUALITY THREAD YOU GOT UP IN HERE

>> No.9167511
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Feelsu guddo man

>> No.9167514
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Good

>> No.9167516

>>9167441
Anyone who spends as much time as you thinking about how the fans of Touhou have ruined the characters and detailing which characters people are allowed to like without being a "secondary" has completely missed the point of Touhou/Gensokyo in general and is more distanced from the heart of the series than that one guy who just watches songs on Youtube and only knows three characters. Also, the PC-98 characters have fans.

>> No.9167519

year of our lord 2012
still trying too hard to fit in

>> No.9167524

Incidentally, I have to wonder how many people actually bothered to play the games in the first place because they found themselves entranced by one of the various cast members.

>> No.9167537

>>9167441
>PC-98 characters don't have a fandom
wat
>>9167479
>>9167516
This.

>> No.9167539

I know the Touhou primaries like to hate on secondaries, but let's be real. There is nothing secondaries are missing out on by not playing the games. There is almost no story in the games, and the gameplay itself is rather average. There is no inherent benefit in being a primary.

>> No.9167544

>Wriggle
Well fuck you too, buddy.

>> No.9167547

My favorite is raymoo

>> No.9167548

No way OP you're stupid and I bet you don't ev--

wait, my favorite Touhou isn't on the list...

Yeah I'm with you OP! Great list!

>> No.9167550

What if I found out what Touhou is from Marisa Stole the Precious Thing and can 1cc Lunatic with no additional lives and no bombs?

I'd be devastated if I weren't allowed entrance to your exclusive club on this anonymous image board.

>> No.9167552
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>>9167516

OP just wants to have fun.

Although he is indeed a massive, colossal, ASTOUNDING faggot cum drinker lagoon creature for including Yuugi in his list.

>> No.9167559

>>9167552
OP just wants to suck cocks. Everyone already knows he is wrong, especially for the fact that he fails to understand what a ``secondary'' is.

>> No.9167575

>>9167559
The definitions have changed. A secondary is a person who prefers fanon over canon.

>> No.9167581

>>9167575
It is people like you who degrade language, culture, respectability, and so forth. You wound my nation and disgrace my favorite touhou.

>> No.9167587

>>9167441
How the fuck is Cirno not on that list?

She's noob catcher number 1

>> No.9167591

>>9167575

It's the goddamned land of fantasy, and you're obsessing about people imagining it slightly different. Doesn't that strike you as being just a little bit ironic?

>> No.9167594

>>9167575
That definition is so last year. The new definition of secondary is anyone I don't like. Get with the program.

>> No.9167595

>>9167587
She's in 6 games and numerous print works.

>> No.9167604

Fuck you OP, I love each and every single Touhou as if they were my own child.

>> No.9167605

>>9167595
Who the fuck cares?

>> No.9167606

>>9167595
>>9167594
>>9167591
>>9167587
>>9167581
>>9167575
>>9167559
>>9167552
>>9167550
>>9167548
>>9167547
>>9167544
>>9167539
>>9167537
>>9167524
>>9167519
>>9167516
>>9167514
>>9167511
>>9167504
>>9167498
>>9167497
>>9167494
>>9167485
>>9167479
>>9167475
>>9167470
>>9167462
>>9167456

butthurt tertiary fanboys who probably came from /b/ or something in last 12 months and only know touhous from iosys videos on youtube who can't handle the truth that their shit taste in 2hus is disgusting and reflects badly on everyone else

keep up the good work OP one day people will learn to accept the truth bomb

>> No.9167612

If not playing the games makes you a dirty secondary why is a bunch of the cast from subterranean animism on that list, a secondary could never complete the game, much like you op.

>> No.9167614

>>9167591
Not at all. It's ZUN's fantasy land, not mine or yours. Just as there's only one Middle Earth, there's only one Gensokyo.

>> No.9167617

>>9167614
Even ZUN disagrees with that. Don't be a retard.

>> No.9167624

Are you seriously trying to say that you never read any doujin works? Your life must be boring as hell.

>> No.9167631

>>9167624
No, I just keep them and the real Gensokyo separate.

>> No.9167629

>>9167614
Not that it's not more or less definitive now, but Tokien changed what constituted canon in Middle Earth many times, so there have been various Middle Earths are various points in time.

>> No.9167632

>Kyoygo
What kind of secondary can't even spell toohoos correctly?

>> No.9167637

>>9167631
A gold star for you.

>> No.9167638

>>9167631
>real Gensokyo
You mean ``my Gensokyo.'' It is a fantasy world that changes for every individiual which observes it, and while this be very easily be turned into a philosophical argument about perceptions and the nature of reality, I will simply leave it at ``You are wrong.''

>> No.9167643

Nice try, OP. Everyone knows that Remillia, Flandre, Cirno, Reimu, Marisa, Sakuya, Patchouli, Tewi, Yuyuko, Alice, Suika, Chen, Yukari, Ran, Sanae, and Suwako are the characters that actual secondaries tend to like.

>> No.9167649

That's not what secondary means.
And even the original meaning of this word doesn't means that your posts are good, so saying that secondarie should get out i stupid

>> No.9167659

Are secondaries honestly trying to defend themselves? Can't they just be secondaries in shame, and stay out of /jp/?

>> No.9167667

I hope everyone in this thread is being ironic...
I hope everyone in this thread is being ironic...
I hope everyone in this thread is being ironic...
I hope everyone in this thread is being ironic...
I hope everyone in this thread is being ironic...

>> No.9167670

>>9167667
You're an idiot.

>> No.9167692

>>9167643
You talkin' shit about my Yuyuko?

>> No.9167697

>>9167692
Not really. Liking a character that happens to be popular with secondaries doesn't automatically make you a secondary.

>> No.9167719

secondareez xDDDDDDDDD

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9169043

Hey my favorite touhou character isn't on this list!
I refuse to refer to her by the fanon name. It's the exact equivalent of calling that one kid "glasses boy" or even worse, "jew girl"

>> No.9169047

>>9169043
Somewhat certain even ZUN used it.

>> No.9169064

>>9169047
somewhat certain you're probably thinking of Koakuma.

>> No.9169775

why is Futo on the list?

>> No.9169791

>>9169064
He's called her "Tokiko" before.

Not even sure what this makes you. Tertiary? Quaternary?

>> No.9169945

>>9169775
It looks like he listed just about every TD character except for Miko and Seiga. Probably hating on the game itself.

>> No.9169986

>>9169791
no it makes you a faggot because there's no documented instance of this happening

>> No.9170009

I don't get the secondary hate. Most primaries are just as unfunny and annoying as the average secondary.

I don't really care whether or not you prefer fanon over canon, just so long as you're able to discuss either intelligently.

>> No.9170040

>>9170009
intelligent discussions are for fucking retards
grow up already

>> No.9170048

Is Mima secondary?

>> No.9170050

>>9170009
>just so long as you're able to discuss either intelligently.

Therein lies the problem, and the root of the stigma.

Plus you really should at least spend an hour or two with the source material if you consider yourself a fan. Be an "IOSYS fan" or whatever, but you can't really be a fan of a game series if you haven't even experienced the games (hell, even if you just watch replays or something).

It's like if someone watched Romeo + Juliet and decided they were a Shakespeare fan.

>> No.9170051

The vast majority of primary Touhou fans have never finished a game. Therefore their favorite girls are from stages 1-3.

>> No.9170064

>>9170051
PoFV was the only game I ever 1CC'd
and it was on Lunatic.
I don't know if it was just sheer luck or what
I've never been able to 1CC any other game.
I've never tried Easy modo, but it's not worth it just to get a bad end.

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>>9170051
I find I can usually beat Touhou games on normal mode if I use continues. Without continues, it becomes difficult for me. I never could complete any of the fighting games without continues even on easy mode because I suck at fighting games. Oddly enough, my favorite 2hu is from the fighting games.

>> No.9170088

>>9170051
Some people just like them more, you know.

>> No.9170101 [DELETED] 

> PC-98 characters were omitted for obvious reasons (they don't have a fandom).
>no shinki

>> No.9170107

>>9170051
I cheated to get all the good endings but now I play without them to improve my skills. Is that bad?

>> No.9170106

>PC-98 characters were omitted for obvious reasons (they don't have a fandom).
looks like i'm safe then, since shinki's from th5.

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>>9170106
OP is a faggot, Shinki has a fandom, but that's mostly thanks to Alice and Byakuren.

>> No.9170125

>>9170107

You should at least feel ashamed

>> No.9170176

>>9170048
Well, excluding Yuka, she's probably the most popular PC-98 character if that means anything.

>> No.9170179

>>9167441
Why Ichirin of all 2hus? Did you just go down the list from SA after you ran out of IOSYS videos?

>> No.9170192

So what's a secondary?

>> No.9170198

>>9170192
its wut u r

>> No.9170235

>>9170198

shud the fug up turbonerd

>> No.9170239

>>9170192
well, you're a secondary if you don't know what one is.
>>9170198

>> No.9170244

>>9170235
sugg my cogg dude :DDDD

>> No.9170471

Only secondaries pick favorite Touhou characters or call them "Touhous."

But seriously, the fact is most of the self-proclaimed "primaries" on /jp/ are actually "secondaries" who play the games and nothing more. No one should really be taking these terms seriously. But since it's /jp/, that's already a given, I hope.

>> No.9172983

>>9170471

But calling them "Touhous" is extremely practical. I've always been fond of the term.

>> No.9173009

>>9170471
>"secondaries" who play the games
literally my butt fell off from laughing

>> No.9173005

>>9170471
So true.

I call them Lasercunts. They all shoot seizure inducing lasers, most of the cast be bitches, so that name fits them well.

>> No.9173010

Only secondaries call people secondaries.

>> No.9173017

``Secondaries'' are people who do not play the games. Stop arguing about your retarded definitions. If they can 1cc at least normal with no extra lives or similar bullshit, they are no longer ``secondaries.''

>> No.9173050

DAWN TO DAWN TO DAWN TO DAWN TO DAWN TO DAWN TO DAWN TO DAWN TO

UGG UGG UGG UGG UGG UGG UGG

SHANGHAI SHANGHAI SHANGHAI SHANGHAI HOURAI HOURAI HOURAI HOURAI

FRANCE TIBET ORLEANS I FORGOT THE REST

>> No.9173055

>>9167604
sup ZUN. how's TH14 coming along? finishing off the sprites, right?

>> No.9173064

I like Cirno but not the "bakabakababa XDDD" version but the tomboyish one from the games. How secondary am I?

>> No.9173090

>>9173064
I hate the "bakakakakakakaxdxdxdxdlool" thing
wtf is supposed to be funny abut that anyway?

>> No.9173098

>>9173050
hate...hate loving
danera danera I feel alive without you
dooshite
dooshite
ah-ah-ah-ah-ah

c'mon sing with me, anon!

>> No.9173109

And these, gentlemen, are the people who make board redirects and angry posts. How are the Touhou fans sperging over silly things like "primaries" and "secondaries" not the shittiest thing /jp/ has to offer?

>> No.9173113

>>9173109
yeah, I'm also a little surprised anyone cares about such thing

oh well, at least it's better then /a/'s "power level"

>> No.9173118

*than sorry

>> No.9173147

I still hope everyone posting in this thread was being ironic.
It's all a big joke guys right?
You are not really that dumb and take this while secondary and primary thing serious right?
Haha!
....right?

Guys....?

>> No.9173144

But my favorite 2hu isn't on that list, and i haven't finished any of the games (except one on easy0

What now OP.

>> No.9173153

>>9173147
>>>/a/ >>>/v/ >>>/ur mum's butt/

>> No.9173155

>>9173147
I stopped taking it seriously after i realised that i can't be bothered to finish any of the games, as they're too frustrating.
I'm just gonna enjoy touhou related things in my own way.

>> No.9173167

>>9173147
Secondaries are very real though.
>omgosh I love Touhou Reimu is my fav character <3
>So how good are you at the games?
>lolwut? there are games? xD

>> No.9173168

>>9173155
I'd welcome this behaviour if it was used to keep low quality posters out, but using it to say " LEL U'R OPINION IS SHIET" is so emberassing

>> No.9173172

>>9173147
hope was since long lost
i guess it's just you and me now, Anonymous...

>> No.9173178

I played 2hoe for five minutes and got bored of how fucking easy it was.
All 2hos are sluts
What now?

>> No.9173180

>>9173167
Because you are a secondary means that you are a shitty poster and primaries can make shitty threads too.
OP is the best example.
And I'm saying this as a primary.

>> No.9173204

>>9173199
Your favorite character does not have to be very plot central, you retarded autist.

>> No.9173199

>>9170176

The people who like Yuka are secondaries who don't play the PC-98 games.

Mima is the most central character to the PC-98 games aside Reimu and Marisa.

>> No.9173205

>>9173167
That might be so, but calling out on users for liking certain characters like the way OP does it is clearly just bad trolling, yet everyone latches onto it.

That threads like this actually get attention, and that people post taking OPs "information" seriously, just proves that this community is beyond help.

Where can I discuss Touhou with users who don't obsess over buzzwords and don't feed uninspired obvious trolls?

>> No.9173220

The OP fails at shitposting because she assumes that liking a character has solely to do with more secondary traits such as appearance or relevance to the story. Why didn't you also consider gameplay as playing a role in favoritism? Iku is not my favorite overall, but she is my favorite in swr and soku because I like her theme and how she plays in comparison to the other characters. You can easily like these characters the most without being a secondary. I will agree on the TD ones, but even then I wouldn't call someone who likes them the most a secondary, I would just call them rash.

>> No.9173226

>>9173180
Secondary detected

>> No.9173240
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My favorite 2hu isn't on the list, but it's still a terrible representation with little correlation to the basis.

>>9173204
I agree, but OP seems to be implying otherwise by saying all minor characters = secondary shit. List does not take into account the amount of game-unrelated fandom revolving around each character, and is therefore inaccurate. Furthermore, the list assumes that touhou preference is derived solely from game presence and impact for all primaries. One's reasons for having a particular favorite cannot technically have an effect on whether or not they are primary or secondary.

See >>9167456 for more details.

>> No.9173241

>>9173204

Reimu and Marisa aren't listed because they're playable characters and bosses in several games.

People who like Yuka don't like her because they play her or fight her in PC-98 games.

>> No.9173246

>>9173241
As we have already covered, OP's list is pointless and stupid shit that nobody with half a brain would attempt to consider seriously.

>> No.9173253

>>9173246

Except most of the people in this thread are shitty secondaries.

>> No.9173261

>>9173253
Your ability to play the games does not decide your favorite character.

>> No.9173375

>>9173253
And you are a shitty poster.
I rather have shitty secondaries on /jp/ instead of people who act like /v/ and seriously assault others for their favourite character

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>>9167441
>Reads list.
>Sees no Mokou.

/jp/ isn't completely cancer filled yet!

>> No.9173491

>>9173205

If you ever find out, please let me know.

>> No.9173496

ZUN hates secondaries

>> No.9173511

>>9173496
ZUN also hates anyone that is not Japanese.

>> No.9173514

>>9173511
So why'd he go to Europe if he hates the people there so much

>> No.9173516

>>9173471
lel @ >implying anyone even remembers worst 2hu

>> No.9173521

>>9173511
ZUN also hates people who ridicule others depending on their favourite

>> No.9173876

>>9173009
>>9173017
First week on /jp/? Can't blame you kids.

>> No.9174669

>>9173876

shud the fug ub turbonerd

>> No.9178373 [DELETED] 

BUMPING THIS QUALITY THREAD UP TO THE FRONT PAGE SO THAT OUR LAZY, WORTHLESS JANITOR WILL DELETE IT

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>>9178373
quality this *whips out dick*

>> No.9179902

>>9167606
Except for the fact that some of those people are complaining that the OP's list is lacking, it's missing the characters that attracts the worst type of fandom and the worst type of people.

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