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Too tired to do anything. Not tired enough to sleep.

It's the worst feeling in the world.

>> No.8899335
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8899335

I feel you bro.

>> No.8899341

I le know that awkward moment, le sir.

>> No.8899343
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8899343

Take a nap.

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>>8899335
Shut up.

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8899357

That is me right now.

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8899359

im like that but with hunger

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It will all be over when you stop being tired, don't worry.

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8899441

Please respond, guys.

>> No.8899448

Work out.

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>>8899441

>> No.8899825
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8899825

This is why it's nice to always have medicine nearby.

Life is way too short to ever feel sad, especially when we have magic pills that will make you feel good.

Too lethargic and depressed to want to do anything? Stimulants!
Tired but you can't get to sleep? Tranquilizers!

>> No.8899828

>>8899448
But I'm too tired.

>> No.8899838

>>8899448

I work out daily by walking for 30 minutes. It gives me some energy, for about 15 seconds.

>>8899825

Many people develop a tolerance to stimulants the longer they use them, including myself. They're a temporary solution at best. Don't have the same problem with tranquilizers though.

>> No.8899839

I have felt like that all day every day for more than a decade. Isn't it grand?

>> No.8899926

>>8899838

>Don't have the same problem with tranquilizers though.

Really? I've had the opposite problem. I developed tolerance to the sedation of benzos very quickly, but I've been getting stim'd five days a week for about three years now with no tolerance build-up.

Do you take supplements? Magnesium + L-Tyrosine is great for keeping that tolerance away and easing the comedowns, along with two break days each week. This only applies to amphetamines and I guess coke or meth though. I don't know about stimulants like ecstasy that don't gobble up your dopamine.

>> No.8899960

The best way for me to get something out of my day is having some sort of obligation.

I've got a little part-time job at my university faculty's library and that motivates me to get up and going way more than the two hours of weekly class.

Oh, and I went to donate blood today.
I'm sure I supply a vampire loli somewhere.

>> No.8899974

>>8899960

>Oh, and I went to donate blood today.

Do you still get paid for this?

>> No.8900001

>>8899974
It was my first time.
You don't get paid for it, and I don't really care.
I think you get a little present at some point when you have donated blood for a loooong while.
Some friends of my family got some wine glasses, they've been donating for some 20 years, I think.
Dunno when the thing with the present was implemented.
I asked the people at the center why they didn't just start a pyramid-scheme sort of deal where one could refer friends in order to earn extra points or something, but they only said that they'd consider it.

If you want to get paid for donating bodily fluids, go with sperm.

By the way; you get free juice or beer to replenish the 450ml blood while you're there.
I'm in Denmark, it most likely differs from country to country.

>> No.8900015

>>8899974

They don't give you money but instead, they give you chips and a can of soda.

>> No.8900037

>>8900001
In some countries you can still get paid for plasma
I'm actually interested in medical experimentation.
I'd love to have some money for letting them cut off a toe and reattach it or something.

>> No.8900035

actually, the worst feeling in the world is not being a NEET, or technically "having responsibility"

>> No.8900056
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>>8899838
>>8899926
/jp/ is full of druggie normals

>> No.8900058

>>8900035
This, trying to be responsible was the worst decision I've ever made in my life, I'd give anything to going back to living the life of a hermit.

>> No.8900062

>>8899838
>work out daily by walking for 30 minutes.
>walking
>30 minutes
That isn't exercise. It's shopping.

>> No.8900063

>>8899838
>I work out daily by walking for 30 minutes
Try some more intensive exercises. You need to get your heart rate up. Go running.
Healthy circulatory system makes you feel like you have more energy.

Everyone here should do it, too. Do that cardio! Heart muscle is the most important muscle in the body.

>> No.8900068

>>8900063
Cardio kills your gains. I would only recommend cardio to a fatty or someone who wanted to be a professional cardio bunny.

>> No.8900069

>>8900056

Why is drug use always associated with normals?

I haven't barely left my home in years and I have no friends at all, offline or online. I use drugs to make me happy. Honestly, I don't understand why drug addiction isn't more common among NEETs. It's really the only way to go once you've hit rock bottom.

>> No.8900078

>>8900069
Because as a NEET with zero social connections, I have no idea how to get my hands on drugs. The idea is you know groups of people who supply you, probably between bouts of group drinking, raving and promiscuous sex.

>> No.8900075

>>8900068
Dude even lifters should do mild cardio now and then.
No point doing LIFTZ if you'll die at age 50 due to heart complications.

>> No.8900076

>>8900069
Because they think you can't be truNEET and still get drugs.

>> No.8900087

>>8900069
Drugs cost money.
Depression is cheaper.
That said, anything you'd recommend, or anything you'd recommend to avoid?
Like the less mainstream drugs.

>>8900078
The internet is wonderful, you can get drugs anonymously via mail order nowadays. Law enforcement shits massive bricks over it, since it's victimless drug delivery.

>> No.8900080

>>8900068
>Cardio kills your gains.
I don't know what this means, but it sounds like obnoxious, irrelevant /fit/ jargon. Go back there.

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>>8900068

I remember someone else who said that. Then his heart popped in a sauna. That's what happens when you neglect your cardio.

>> No.8900084

>>8900069
Why can't you just be happy taking it easy like myself?
Where do you even get drugs?

>> No.8900089

>>8900078
Do you have a doctor? I only see mine once a year but I'm always stocked up on xanax and opiates.

Hell, I don't even have to go to the pharmacy to pick them up.

>> No.8900092

>>8900082
Zyzz was careless to say that when he had a preexisting heart condition, now everyone uses it as the ultimate argument against cardio killing gains. I bet he would have hastened his demise if he did cardio and then went in a sauna.

>> No.8900091

>>8899331
That's easy mode. Try it when you're too tired to do anything AND too tired to sleep.

I bet you don't even know what I'm talking about, filthy normal.

>> No.8900093

>>8900078

>The idea is you know groups of people who supply you

But I don't.

Everything I take is prescribed to me by my doctor and even then I can only handle the anxiety of going in there for refills when I'm heavily sedated.

Even so though, there's the silk road. You can order whatever drug you want, even things like marijuana or heroin, by using Tor and then it's smuggled to you through the mail. You don't really need to know people anymore.

http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road

That pretty much details the whole ordering process. No socialization involved.

>> No.8900099

People who take drugs are pathetic.
Unless it's stuff that makes you see pretty colours.

>> No.8900103

>>8900069
Because TruNEETs endure whatever misery comes their way without drugs or anything to make their suffering easier.

>> No.8900106

>>8900103
This.

>> No.8900109

>>8900103
That's a funny way of saying that
"I have figurines and shit to buy"

>> No.8900121

>>8900103
Speak for yourself, DumNEET

>> No.8900128

You can get $30-50 a pop for donating blood/plasma.

>> No.8900136

>>8900128
What countries/places?

I'm going to change my diet to facilitate the growth of blood cells if this is the case.

And I bet it'd feel kinda cool to have a shelf full of figurines and be like "Blood money."

>> No.8900141

>>8900091
That always happens to me when I stay up for around 24 hours, once I get to the second night of no sleep I somehow feel like I no longer need sleep.

>> No.8900149

>>8900121
Drugs and whining are /r9k/-tier shit. I know my life is the sum of the choices I've made so far, so I have no one to blame for it but myself.

If I wanted my life to be better, I would have made it so instead of resorting to drugs.

>> No.8900150

>>8900136
In the US.
I don't know the specifics of it, but my neighbor used to do it a lot. I do know there's a limit per month on how much you can donate, I also know that if you use different companys or organizations or whatever you can sometimes slip past that limit as long as you don't walk in looking like a zombie.

What they pay seems to depend on the organization, and what kind of blood you've got. Good luck anon.

>> No.8900155

>>8900087

>That said, anything you'd recommend, or anything you'd recommend to avoid?

I'd recommend the usual ones. Personally I just use amphetamines and benzos, both you can easily get prescribed to you by a doctor and most likely without even lying. You can get the adderall by telling a doctor that you're lethargic, can't focus on anything, and your mind constantly drifts whenever you try to accomplish something. You can get the benzos by complaining about severe anxiety. You can use both together for the most enjoyable experience.

As far as illegal drugs that you can acquire through the internet then I would recommend marijuana for taking it easy, LSD for an interesting experience that you'll remember for awhile, and if you decide to dabble in psychedelics then once you've become pretty used to them then I would definitely recommend DMT, it's an intense experience that will completely change your outlook on life.

And then for the drugs I would recommend avoiding, my general rule is to avoid all RCs (research chemicals) they might be technically legal, but only because they're such new drugs that no one knows anything about them or what they do to you and that's a little scary. I would also suggest not getting into common deliriants, it might be tempting to head over to the corner store and buy a bottle of robitussin, but chugging that is going to taste like shit and then you'll probably feel spiders crawling all over you. Not fun at all.

>> No.8900164

>>8900155
>I would definitely recommend DMT, it's an intense experience that will completely change your outlook on life.
Why are drugnormals so pretentious?

>> No.8900171

>>8900103

>Because TruNEETs endure whatever misery comes their way without drugs or anything to make their suffering easier.
>If I wanted my life to be better
>If

What? What's your motivation for thinking like this?

Why would anyone want to be miserable?

>> No.8900175

>>8900093
I've been thinking of trying Silk Road for a while, but I'm still really paranoid about it.

>> No.8900180

>>8900141
Yeah, that's what I meant. Happens to me after not sleeping for some time, too.

I think it has to do something with not letting your nervous system rest for a while. I feel "wired" and tired at the same time. Hands start to shake, too.

Except that I still want to sleep, but can't, because I roll around in bed with my mind racing. I usually get up and go play with my cat until it subsides.

>> No.8900182

>>8900164
It's not really being pretentious, it's the effect it has. Some literally rip you out of reality. It's a humbling experience really.

>> No.8900193

>>8900164
If there's anything I've learned from experimenting with substances, it's that they always have a huge unfounded mythology surrounding them. Never believe anything you read on 4chan or from some dumbass kid when it comes to how a drug will affect you or change your life.

>> No.8900195

>>8900164

What's pretentious about it? It's an extremely potent psychedelic. You'll feel things that you never felt before. You're not going to become some loony hippie screaming about the earth goddess, but it's intense and it can shock you into looking at your life from a new perspective. Kind of like bungee jumping or sky diving, it scares the shit out of you and shocks you right out of whatever depression or apathy you may be feeling.

>> No.8900197

>>8900155
I'd personally avoid psychedelics and stimulants. Benzos are where it's at though. I have crippling anxiety and it makes it manageable.

I would much rather be sedated. Better living through chemistry.

>> No.8900212

So what's the best combo to feel like I'm in Gensokyo until I actually get there

>> No.8900215

You drugged up normals disgust me.
I bet you leave the house regularly too and have friends.

>> No.8900217

>Too ill to sleep. Too tired to stay awake

Go to bed anyway, Rent.

>> No.8900220

>>8900215
You can be truNEET and do drugs like you can be truNEET and drink tea.

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>>8900195
>Kind of like bungee jumping or sky diving, it scares the shit out of you and shocks you right out of whatever depression or apathy you may be feeling.

>> No.8900229

>>8900171
It's not that I don't want to be happy, it's just that happiness takes too much effort.

I'm much more content with living a miserable life, because it doesn't take any effort.

But I know that if I tried harder, I wouldn't be living it like this.

>> No.8900230

I wish I had a need for drugs, but I'm only normally pathetic.

>> No.8900245

>>8900195
Typical Drugnormal logic.

If that's all it takes for you to be shocked out of your "depression" once and for all, then you were never depressed in the first place.

"I was once dead, but then I prayed to Jesus, and I'm not dead anymore"

>> No.8900256

Pills from a doctor are no different than powder from a guy on a corner. Funny thing about addicts, they don't see themselves as normals, and yet they're as normal as it gets.

>> No.8900261

>>8900215

>drugged up normals

Honestly, I think you got it backwards. I'd say that it's hard to be a "truNEET" and not eventually become a drug addict.

I used to think the same thing that you're saying, but that was nearly six years ago. The apathy gets to you more and more each year and eventually you just can't take it anymore. At that point you have three options, either you start meditating and try to become some zen master, you kill yourself, or you find your escape in drugs.

There's plenty of pleasures in the NEET life, especially when you don't feel the need to socialize, but you can still only take so much until the almost sensory deprivation experience of staying inside every single day starts fucking with your head and you completely stop caring about doing anything. At that point you need something to give you the motivation to get out of bed and actually be able to enjoy things again and drugs are great for that.

>> No.8900271

kids should get the fuck out

>> No.8900272

>>8900261
I don't agree that it's the final path of truNEETs but I will agree that being someone who blocks out their misery with drugs doesn't disqualify them from being truNEET.
Because what is /jp/? It's a place where we can escape our misery.
Not so different.
Although if you get the drugs from any kind of social contact at all, that's it. No truNEET for you.

>> No.8900280

>>8900261
Bullshit, drugs are what normals and kids turn to if they can't find better escapism methods.

Otaku have no reason to use that shit. And a turNEET would have neither the reason nor the means.

>> No.8900285

>>8900256

What's your definition of a normal?

I really don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying that anyone who engages in escapism is a normal and a truNEET is someone that just sits back and endures misery like some kind of monk or are you just saying that you're a normal if your specific form of escapism happens to be swallowing a pill or drowning yourself in alcohol?

>> No.8900299

>>8900068
>>8900082

It's not even fucking hard. 15 minutes of cardio AFTER you lift is much, much more effective then before, or on its own, for some reason. It's not hard at all to get a bare minimum of cardio in.

>> No.8900301

>>8900285
>truNEET is someone that just sits back and endures misery like some kind of monk

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.

>> No.8900302

>>8900285
Who gives a shit? This thread is obviously full of people who have spent their entire life (17 years) playing Pokemon.

>> No.8900304

>>8900285
A normal is anyone who lives in a way I don't.

>> No.8900309

>>8900280
>And a turNEET would have neither the reason nor the means.
While I agree with you about lacking means, I'm hardly seeing lack of reason.
Anything that makes life pleasurable is good. Drugs do exactly that. I don't really differentiate between them and onaholes - I would if I could afford it from my basement.

>> No.8900311

>>8900285
>a truNEET is someone that just sits back and endures misery like some kind of monk
A truNEET is not miserable at all.
You people turning to drugs and stuff belong on /soc/ or something.

>> No.8900312

>>8900302
lol that means they're underage

>> No.8900315

>>8900256
Except one if from your doctor and the other is on the corner, they're both drugs but you can get one called in and delivered.

What your saying is along the same lines as "Tea at home is no different than from a cafe, they don't see themselves as normals, and yet they're as normal as it gets."

>> No.8900323

>>8900302
Get out.

>> No.8900333

Drug addicts, just go to 420chan and leave us out of it.

>> No.8900331

>>8900280

>Otaku have no reason to use that shit.

How long have you been a shut-in? This is completely true, but only for the first few years. My hobbies kept me happy for a long time, but the apathy will eventually catch up to you and everything you're enjoying right now will suddenly give you no pleasure at all and you even won't know why. It's just what happens after extended periods of isolation where you do the same thing every day.

At that point it doesn't matter if you have a backlog of eroge a mile long that you normally couldn't wait to play, you just won't give a shit anymore. When you get to that point then why even bother living anymore? It's either drugs or suicide as far as I can tell.

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This tryhard truNEETdom is annoying. It's the same as normalfags forcing their bullshit on you. You are disapointing me with your bullshit again /jp/, I hope none of you goes full-/a/ and take it seriously.

>> No.8900341

>>8900315
I don't think I would see myself as a truNEET anymore if I had a "doctor." I stopped having one of those when I never went outside anymore, even when I felt sick. Doctors are things normals see to get rid of medical problems that are impeding them from enjoying their successful careers and sex lives.

>> No.8900345

>>8900337
truNEETs take it easy.

>> No.8900346

>>8900331
Don't say that... :(

>> No.8900348

>>8900331
It's been 6 years for me and I'm doing fine. Maybe you just weren't as interested in your hobbies as you thought.

>> No.8900349

>>8900331
If you don't have otaku hobbies then why are you here?

Eight years and it's done nothing to hamper my interest.

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>>8900302

>> No.8900361

I'm a 22 virgin and I'm beautiful, girls wants my cock but I have autism

>> No.8900365

>>8900348
>>8900349
I hope I will stay strong as you guys. I'm on my 3rd year.

>> No.8900367

>>8900356
>>8900323
>>8900312
He sure hit a nerve with you pokefags. Also, it's ironic you used that image when it's the NPC talking to the player (the guy who plays pokemon) about how they're a kid.

>> No.8900379

>>8900367
No, two of those were me.

I was supposed to say "get out" with that image but I failed the captcha and forgot to resubmit the image.

>> No.8900373

>>8900331
I've been following the same routing for over 5 years and I still like reading VNs and otaku related things. But why are you browsing /jp/ if you don't like any of those things, maybe you should check out /r9k/.

>> No.8900380

>>8900365
If you have a legitimate interest in your hobbies then there's no reason for them to ever change.

>> No.8900384

>>8900379
>fails the equivalent of the turing test
>desperate enough to post again
Typical pokemon player.
>>>/vp/

>> No.8900383

>>8900373
But it's full of normals.

If everyone on /jp/ is into VNs and 2hus, then why do we have threads like this? Besides, VNs can go to /vg/ and 2hus just fuck off somewhere else entirely.

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8900387

Go out and play with your friends, /jp/.

>> No.8900388

>>8900337
>I hope none of you goes full-/a/
But /a/ is full of people who hate cute girls doing cute things. There are people who insult "normalfags" and "moeshit" in the same breath. It makes no sense.

>> No.8900389

>>8900348
>>8900349

>6 years
>Eight years

I envy you guys a lot. I'm nearly on my seventh year, but the apathy kicked in around the end of the fifth.

>>8900373

>But why are you browsing /jp/ if you don't like any of those things

I love them, it's just that I need drugs to be able to enjoy them. It's not that my interests have changed at all, I just can't enjoy things without drugs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anhedonia

I always assumed that this happens to every NEET after a certain amount of years, but maybe I just have a disorder of some kind.

>> No.8900398

>>8900387
How much of a normal do you have to be to make that image?

>> No.8900394

>>8900383
Look at you desperately trying to justify your staying on a board you have no point in being on.

Hangers on like this are the worst type of people, they can't even accept their normality.

>> No.8900401

>>8900387
people hates me after 5 minutes they know me ;_;

>> No.8900402

>>8900389
Yeah you do, you fucking faggot.
You're so normal, you assume everyone's like you.
You're the equivalent of the guy who's like
"Hey why don't you go outside? You don't like going outside? YOU MUST!"
Not that I would know a guy like that, but they must exist.

>> No.8900415

>>8900402
I know /jp/ secretly wishes to be the "normals" they pretend to despise (when it's just jealousy). You can't honestly tell me that if a solid 8/10+ girl sincerely loved you and wanted to be with you (and hadn't been with anyone else because I know this would play on your beta insecurities) you wouldn't oblige. You hate normals because they excluded you.

>> No.8900419

>>8900384
Who are you le quoting?

>> No.8900422

>>8900415
That's where you're wrong, nerd.
And that's why you belong on /r9k/.

>> No.8900425

>>8900415
Guaranteed replies.

>> No.8900430

normals pls go

>> No.8900434

>>8900402

Is it really that ridiculous of an assumption though? Look around you. Every single day we have multiple depression threads all over /jp/. They aren't talking about sex or wanting socialize or anything you would normally characterize as normal behavior, they're just sad and apathetic. We're in one right now.

Honestly, it seems like you're doing the same thing that you just accused me of. Your definition of a "truNEET" is just a description of yourself and anyone who isn't like you is a normal, but if that's the case then there's only maybe three or four people on /jp/ that are actually a "truNEET" and everyone else is just a depressed normal by your standards.

>> No.8900441

>>8900398
It's from a textbook written by proper psychology people, so the image is right and you are wrong.

>> No.8900449

>>8900434
Threads like this are the result of normals invading /jp/ looking for what they hope will be "like minded individuals", losers like who gave up on tier hobbies but linger and fester on anyway becuase they're too afraid to be with their own kind, and the general precedent for shitposting that all this has set.

It has nothing to do with the native population of the board.

>> No.8900452

>>8900434
Yeah, they are.
They haven't reached my level and many others, of the life of monk like "Taking it easy"-nes.
Although, I'm not taking it easy right now.
But I am most of the time, and have been doing so for 10 years.

>> No.8900454

>>8900441
>psychology
>right
lol

>> No.8900461

>>8900415
If you're circumcised, you wish you weren't. You can't tell me you're happy that masturbation feels worse and you're glad that your parents made the decision. But go ahead: try to argue with me. It will just prove I am right because you feel the need to defend yourself.

If the above actually doesn't apply to you, substitute it with atheism/theism, Israel/Palestine, sexuality, or which Type-Moon is the best.

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>normal
>normals
>normals
>normal
>normals

>> No.8900465

Junk has a nice rack.

>> No.8900475

>>8900441
>It's from a textbook written by proper psychology people
I'm sure it is. And how normal is the whole field of psychology? Ever since they turned their back on Freud since he wasn't normal enough they've been this way. The field of psychology is primarily concerned with turning everyone into a normal.

>> No.8900469

>>8900454
Psychology is right. The problem is that it's too right.

HURR DURR WE MADE A GRAPH AND PEOPLE SAID THAT BEING HAPPY MAKES THEIR LIFE BETTER WHAT STARTLING NEWS HERE ARE SOME NUMBERS THAT DON'T REALLY MATTER PLEASE CITE US!!!

I know psychology isn't just social psychology, but by and large it's just quantified common sense.

>> No.8900470

>>8900462
Go loiter in a mall someplace.

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8900471

What a shitty thread.

TruNEETS don't need no arms around them, nor do truNEETs need no drugs to calm them. Go to 420chan or /r9k/ for your duuuuuude so hiiiiiiigh and feel sooo gooood and loooonely that feel when no gf (spoiler!);_;(/spoiler!) drug "discussion".

>I'd say that it's hard to be a "truNEET" and not eventually become a drug addict.
An addiction to drugs a truNEET can't even purchase, right?

>> No.8900477

>>8900462
I've always liked this comic. It feels kind of pretentious and preachy, but at the same time it's true.

>> No.8900480

>>8900477
>woman who has sex 8 times a week
>as much value as a virgin

>> No.8900483

>>8900449

>but linger and fester on anyway becuase they're too afraid to be with their own kind

Why do you think of everything in such black and white ways? You make it sound like you're either this enlightened monk-like truNEET that never feels depression or sadness and just takes it easy constantly or you're some extroverted normal that's a sex maniac, has a million friends, and engages in orgies and all sorts of crazy shit.

It's not that simple. There is a such a huge variety of types in both groups. You don't have to be some monk just to be a NEET, maybe that's ideal and it's the happiest way to enjoy the lifestyle, but that doesn't mean everyone else is suddenly a normal.

>> No.8900485

>>8900477
I've always liked your mother's vagina (and your sister's if you have one)

>> No.8900487

>>8900483
Is that the excuse you're going to try and use here?

>> No.8900493

>>8900483
They're waiting for you at >>>/r9k/, norm.

>> No.8900503

>>8900462
That comic has nothing to do with the term the way /jp/ uses it. Being a normalfriend is to force your boring and irrelevant culture onto the disinterested majority, like the people in this thread are desperately trying to do.
Nobody wants to read about how drugs will cure the depression they don't have.

>> No.8900505

>>8900483
>>>/r9k/

>> No.8900508

It makes me sick to know pathetic normals are crawling on my /jp/, contaminating hallowed ground.

>> No.8900520

>>8900475
To be fair, that's because Freud was kind of wrong about a lot of things. What's funny is that a lot of the popular ideas about Freud are pretty accurate. The guy linked everything to our unconscious desires, notably sexual ones. It's not as though people are trying to "de-sex" psychoanalysis because it's 2012 and sex is fine now. It's just because he was off the mark and made sweeping assumptions.
For example, Freud claimed that all his patients were, in one way or another, sexually abused as children. Then he decided this must happen to all children, and lead to repression. After publishing these ideas however, he realized, "Oh shit, this means my parents must have abused me too." and decided we all had _fantasies_ about being abused as children. That when you and I were little boys and girls, we sat in our rooms and thought about daddy touching our private parts.
Obviously this is bullshit and we can basically prove it is. The broader strokes of Freud's ideas like repression and the unconscious mind do exist, but the specifics were outright weird. His other ideas like id, ego and super-ego were basically just nice ways of categorizing things we already knew about.

Freud's biggest contribution to psychology weren't his ideas, it was that he fathered the field of psychoanalysis for his successors to do properly.

>> No.8900526

>>8900449
>>8900449
>>8900449
>>8900449
>>8900449
>>8900449
>>8900449
>>8900449

It's rare that you see a post on /jp/ filled with so much truth like this one.

>> No.8900529

ITT: NORPs calling people "normalfags" like the NORPs that they are.

>> No.8900535

>>8900449
>>8900526
But I'm a NEET and I consider myself too good for /r9k/.
I played Touhou once. That's the one with all the bullets, right? And Cirno? I watched one of her videos.

Can I stay?

>> No.8900536

>>8900529
what's a nrope

>> No.8900541

>>8900535
lol get the HELL out

>> No.8900542

>>8900535
Nice try, but you're just making yourself look like an idiot now.

>> No.8900551

>>8900449
I think even a shitty offboarder would look with disgust at all the normals we have in this thread.

So certainly, no one is finding "like minded individuals" unless you're looking for filthy druggie-normals.

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Being a NEET is not a status symbol. Stop all of this ridiculous posturing.

Look at all of you. Comparing how many years you've stayed inside like it's a goddamn dick measuring contest. You say that you're so much better than normals but you're behaving exactly like them.

This is why antisocial subcultures are so annoying. You have this superiority complex and you think you're so much better than regular people, but you're no different and you do the same exact ego driven bullshit. Bragging about NEET status, posturing for dominance, etc, etc. It's like I'm watching gorillas on the fucking animal planet.

>> No.8900611

>>8900591
You wouldn't see it happen if we could just be left alone.
If the raid ever ends, it will stop.

That doesn't really matter to you though. I mean, how can it?

>> No.8900640

>>8900611

Of course you will, that's the point. Gorillas don't start acting like chest pounding retards until their position of dominance is challenged.

If you were really like these monks (you should be ashamed of comparing yourself to them, by the way) then you wouldn't go all territorial and alpha the second you see a normal on /jp/. You would just sit back, go to another thread, and disregard it. That's one of the main philosophies that actual monks believe in and none of you are acting like this.

You're just acting like typical humans. Yeah, of course you can take it easy when nothing bad is happening. Everyone can do that.

>> No.8900642

>>8900640
That's nice, dear.

Going to keep trying then?

>> No.8900650
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8900650

Every drug thread on /jp/ ever.

>> No.8900654

>>8900640
I think we've become the victims of our own success (or the victors of our own failure, whichever). Being an unemployed shut-in is so much the "default" on /jp/, that people feel the need to take it further. I shit in bags. He has never spoken for years. She think she's a woman. Then when someone challenges the foundation this is all based on, everyone needs to qualify themselves. Me? A normalfag? Oh no, I'll have you know that I haven't seen sunlight since I was 18! I'm not one of those normalfags who feels the need to justify themselves, and to prove it, here is me justifying myself!

Frankly I think everyone should just not care. If someone comes in and they have a wife and children and earn 300k, don't call attention to it. Certainly don't encourage it, but don't start your, "3DPD NORMALFAG BULLSHITE GTFO!!!" crap either. That's not elitist, it's just dumb.

>> No.8900671

>>8900591
>>8900640
/jp/ isn't made of gorillas, or normals. /jp/ is a board full of people that would love isolation. You think Ieyasu Tokugawa would take this shit? Shit no, he'd cut them down just like he did all the westerners and christian japs.

>> No.8900675

>>8900650
I love how this is the drugnormal's only defense. "WHAT? YOU DON'T CONFORM TO THIS STANDARD SET BY US NORMALFRIENDS? THAT'S UNTHINKABLE! YOU MUST HAVE NEVER TRIED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!"

What happens when I tell you that I've experimented with psychedelics, cannabis, stimulants, etc. extensively? And guess what I found out? They're not as good and life changing as you all say it is. Just like with anything else, the drugnormals suggestions are inapplicable to a truNEET.

Face it. Drugs are an overrated normalfriend habit. Go away.

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8900680

>>8900650
I didn't like the ending, so I made my own.

>> No.8900691

I never disliked normals because they force their lifestyles on us, but because they're disgusting gene conveyor belts. I see no problem with hikitruNEET posturing. We should battle it out to see who is the most NEET among us, and crown him our king. And he can protect us from the normals who try to warp the easy-taking philosophy into a justification allowing them and their promiscuous sex and fat wallets to exist on /jp/.

>> No.8900692

>>8900675

depends on usage. Normals like to get fucked up and lose themselves, but drugs can also be used for focus and can be good if they allow you to be heavily productive or want to give yourself a boost of neuroplasticity.

I like fucking with combinations of nootropics and a mild psychostim before doing my reps for 5 hours and cleaning everything.

>> No.8900695

>>8900675
From the opposite side of things: I have not taken many drugs, but I have no problem with people who use them regularly. I would be willing to try to them given the opportunity, and I could order some I guess quite easily. I'm just not that bothered, so don't shoehorn me into something I'm not.

I mean, I want some cheesecake. If someone said, "Here, have some cheesecake," I would sure as hell eat some cheesecake. But I haven't had cheesecake in years, even when I had enough money to buy it.

Fuck, I want some cheesecake.

>> No.8900696

sage for /r9k/

>> No.8900701

>>8900675

>They're not as good and life changing as you all say it is.

They're not supposed to be. Drugs are life-enhancers. They just make you enjoy what you would normally do even more or they give you the focus to do what you don't want to do but would still like to accomplish, like taking stimulants to learn Japanese.

Anyone who says that drugs is all you need to be happy is retarded, but to never take any drugs ever for some ridiculous reason like "I WANT TO BE TRUNEET" is just as retarded.

>> No.8900703

>>8900692
>nootropics
Has this devolved into a magical buzzword yet?

I hope it has. Then my obvious speculations made years ago were right. Please tell me it has. Please.

>> No.8900708

>>8900650
fox-kun didn't really want those grapes anyway, it just so happened it was the first source of food he came across. It's not like he went out specifically searching for those dumb sour grapes...

>> No.8900716

Here come the drug addicts!

You don't need to tell us about it everytime you smoke crack or whatever, take that shit to /a/ or /r9k/ or /soc/.

>> No.8900710

>>8900701

What if my reason is that I don't have the contacts or money?
I had a Silk Road account before you did, but I never bought anything. Even if I could, I would rather spend my money on something more immediate like beer.

And I would actually like to try some different drugs, just not all that much.

>> No.8900713

>>8900640
>You would just sit back, go to another thread, and disregard it.

This has always been the worst advice on 4chan. The minute we do this is the minute we become /adv/. We'd be covered in normalfag threads "guys there's this girl I think likes touhou what should I do?"
/jp/ needs to stay elitists, fact we need to be MORE elitist.

>> No.8900722

>>8900701
>>8900692
>>8900695
The key point is this:
Drugs are never good enough to warrant an entire fucking thread about them. There is nothing to talk about. "I did this drug and it felt nice." Okay? Then what happened?

Oh, nothing happened after that? Then fuck off already. Stop making it seem like they're the solution to a nonproductive day.

>> No.8900726

>>8900713
It can backfire though. Don't just flame people. Going on some aggressive rant telling subhuman normalfag scum to fuck off back to Reddit ISN'T a good way of dealing with the problem (and it is a problem) no matter how much irony you add. It just encourages trolling, and even bakas from /jp/ itself contributing just to spite you ("Here's a torrent link, just to piss off the spoonfeeding faggot").
Be firm, but don't be a dick just for the sake of it. If someone is persistent, say, "We don't do these threads. Lurk more." Otherwise it's often the best choice to just ignore people. Not all threads must be replied to (sorry, everyone), and sometimes the best rejection is simply nobody giving a damn.

>> No.8900741

>>8900716
>>8900722
I just want to add to this:
Nobody cares what your fetish, sexual orientation, or most twisted desires are. Even if they are wacky, disgusting, or involve people from /jp/.

>> No.8900743

>>8900713

>/jp/ needs to stay elitists, fact we need to be MORE elitist.

Why? It doesn't help at all. Elitism causes arguments and arguments are basically just thread accelerant. It makes the fire go out of control and all of the sudden you have shitty threads getting 300+ replies.

Complete and total silence is the only thing that works. Threads with no responses are threads that die. If every off-topic thread was completely ignored then /jp/ would become a better place.

You can't fight force with force. It never works. Boredom and impatience is the only thing that will make shitposters go.

>> No.8900780

>>8900743
To take an easy example, let's say the following thread happens (quotations can be fictitious, calm down):

> Anonymous 04/23/12(Mon) 20:00
> hi guys, anyone know what game pic related is from???

> Anonymous 04/23/12(Mon) 20:03
> bump

> Anonymous 04/23/12(Mon) 20:21
> anyone?

> Anonymous 04/23/12(Mon) 20:47
> come on, someone has to know..

How would you react? You know the masses are idiots, even on /jp/. Someone would inevitably fire off some image macros or complaints at this poor, self-entitled fellow. Maybe you know what game his picture is from. Perhaps you know iqdb or Google would give exactly the results he's asking for. How then, would you respond? Would you continue to ignore him, even if he kept at it? Keep in mind you're not the only poster on the board, and he doesn't *know* you're choosing to ignore his thread.

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8900787

>>8899331
eye know it too well

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8900794

>>8900787
Just take more adderall and it'll fix everything Sparky!

>> No.8900806

>>8900780

He will only do that for so long though. Maybe six bumps at the most until he gets bored and asks some where else.

If I respond with the answer though then this risks the possibility of sparking a conversation where other posters might come in and talk about it, either complaining about how someone responded seriously or talking about whatever the off-topic subject is.

Either way though, it seems like the best response is to ignore him and hope others do the same. Even if other people respond though, then calling them out on it will only end with a thread similar to the one we're having right now and that just makes the thread even more active.

>> No.8900820

>>8900708

Fox-kun is tsundere?! That explaisn everything.

>> No.8900834

>>8900806
> He will only do that for so long though. Maybe six bumps at the most until he gets bored and asks some where else.
You kind of underestimate how patient people are with their own requests. It's entirely possible he'll try again tomorrow, or a week from now. I have seen people do this with very obvious or off-topic requests. Maybe it's some joke/troll that went right over my head, I don't know.

> If I respond with the answer though then this risks the possibility of sparking a conversation where other posters might come in and talk about it, either complaining about how someone responded seriously or talking about whatever the off-topic subject is.
But if you *don't* respond, the same thing could happen. Perhaps you might have said, "Hey, use iqdb. It has the answer. Lurk more in future." and the OP left satisfied and enlightened. But you didn't, and so the thread escalated into a flame war or off-topic discussion.

> Either way though, it seems like the best response is to ignore him and hope others do the same. Even if other people respond though, then calling them out on it will only end with a thread similar to the one we're having right now and that just makes the thread even more active.
But the problem is, not everybody is in the "don't respond" camp. Not everybody ever will be. Every single person on this board thinks they know not to respond to trolls, but they do it anyway. Perhaps 99% of posters actually never do. That 1% however will cause problems for everyone. Surely then, maybe responding firmly is worthwhile? Even the "get out of /jp/" posters might do some good. A lot of people on /a/ were upset by /jp/'s attitude toward them, and now they have their own threads again. Those people would be lowering the quality of the board if not for the lowest-rung of respondents.

>> No.8900848

>>8900722
and tea deserves its own thread?

>> No.8900859

>>8900848
Since this is going to turn into a cross-board content/wildcard board debate, I'm just going to try this:

http://www.4chan.org/rules#global
>1. Do not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to, anything that violates local or United States law. This will be severely punished and strictly enforced.

A lot of the drug talk that goes on *is* illegal. Granted so is 90% of 4chan, but /diy/ has taught us the mods care about drugs.

>> No.8900893

>>8900848
All blog threads are insipid, and I hate them to the bone.

My mood when I see a blog thread on /jp/: irritated.
What I'm listening to: shitty music.

>> No.8900982

>>8900893
Are you talking about the doujin music threads?

>> No.8901022

Anti-drug people are fags. That's all there is to it.

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>>8900794
wwww

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>>8901022
>>8w901022
wwwwww

>> No.8901786
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8901786

>Make one last shit thread before I take a nap
>Wake up
>200 replies

How do I do it?

>> No.8901794

Last night I felt that way. I was in bed and my body felt a bit heavier.

>> No.8901864

>>8901794
>fascinated_nigger.jpg

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8902279

PLEASE RESPOND

>> No.8902351

el bumpo

>> No.8902454

>>8902351
le bump xD

>> No.8902458

>>8902454
hehe

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8902720

Sometimes I wonder how many truNEETZ are american. And how many of them own guns. And how many already shot themselves.

>> No.8903701

>>8902720
So, basically, were* and owned*? XD

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