What's the worst official thing that you hate about touhou? What's the worst nonofficial thing that you hate about touhou?

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Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:00:04 2012 No.8855816 [Reply] [Original]

What's the worst official thing that you hate about touhou?
What's the worst nonofficial thing that you hate about touhou?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:04:03 2012 No.8855833 File: 330 KB, 993x1400, niggertei..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't hate anything about touhou. I reject things I don't like and substitute my own.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:07:03 2012 No.8855842 I don't hate anything about canon touhou I hate when touhou gets turned into fetish and masturbation fodder.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:10:03 2012 No.8855857 >>8855842 I hate myself for this. I don't really hate any fanon faggotry, people can enjoy whatever they want as long as they don't come here to post about it while acting like a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:13:03 2012 No.8855865 >>8855857 You mean like this guy? >>8855833 Faggots like these irritate me. And what the fuck, I don't nigger tewi.

Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:16:33 2012 No.8855870

>>8855865
Not really.
I think it's fine to come here and discuss the many aspects of touhou canon and fanon as long as you act civilized.
You know, the opposite of people who post youtube comments like "XD Marisa stole the precious thing!Alice is so tsundere eheheh <3"

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:18:33 2012 No.8855877 The worst nonofficial must be the yuri and the yurifags. But I'd rather have the yuri than the 2ndary porn that shit out. Can't they at least make them all vanilla? Can't they translate more romance doujin? Also fuck CGRascal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:19:03 2012 No.8855879 I don't hate anything about Touhou, even most of the fanon. I hate the secondary fandom. In my book if you do not play Touhou you are not allowed to like it. I got very mad at my friend who said she liked Touhou but said the games "weren't funnnn."

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:19:03 2012 No.8855880 >>8855870 Nobody here acts like that. It's the "ebin /jp/ memes" about touhous that piss me off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:20:03 2012 No.8855881 I hate Touhou hentai. I side with ZUN on this one. Also I don't understand how they could make rape mindbreak doujins without going "wow what I'm doing is really fucking retarded"

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:22:03 2012 No.8855885 I don't hate anything canon I hate faceless/random men. They make no fucking sense, miles less than yuri could ever try.

Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:23:03 2012 No.8855887

>>8855881
For me it's not so much about being fucking retarded but rather about having at least a little for the characters and setting. Though I suspect most of these people don't really like touhou except for masturbation material and as a vessel for their perversions.

>>	Gensokyo Gal XV !nLH26A83Ug Sat Apr 14 22:23:33 2012 No.8855886 I hate that it's impossible to buy the games for a reasonable price, ZUN is good and I want to support him but I'm not paying thirty bucks that he'll only see like ten percent of.

>>	Gensokyo Gal XV !nLH26A83Ug Sat Apr 14 22:25:03 2012 No.8855891 Wait, you guys really do hate Touhou hentai? I always thought when you said "too lewd" you were just being ironic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:26:03 2012 No.8855896 >>8855891 I hate how fanon oversexualises Touhou like a bunch of pre-teens with a chronic masturbation problem. But we are a minority here, I think.

Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:26:34 2012 No.8855893

I don't hate anything about Touhou in itself. I just find the vocal "primaries" (you know, the ones that would rather argue about what's canon or not over the internet like some sort of righteous warrior on a crusade to correct everyone's view of Touhou) mildly annoying. And worse than those, there are those shitbags that think the games are a test to see if you quality for Touhou. Mostly so because of their constant hate for what they call "secondaries" just because they think of Touhou as their exclusive club that can only be enjoyed if one meets the proper requirements.

The following are great examples:
>>8855879 (this one here especially)
>>8855877

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:28:34 2012 No.8855902 >>8855816 I hate how I can't get better at some games of Touhou. I hate the stuttering alice roleplay shit.

Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:30:03 2012 No.8855916

>>8855893

You are mistaken, anon. Touhou is my special club!

Seriously, though, you misunderstand me. I just find it very weird that somebody can say they like something without actually liking the source. It bothers me that somebody will go on about LOL SAKUYA'S PADS *KNIFE'D* XDD, or HELP MEE EEIIRRRIINNN or other such bullshit without even at least playing the game first.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:30:34 2012 No.8855913 >>8855893 Maybe some people get it wrong, but the hate for secondaries comes mostly from the fact that shit all over the setting for their own enteirtanment.

>>	Gensokyo Gal XV !nLH26A83Ug Sat Apr 14 22:30:34 2012 No.8855914 >>8855896 I don't hate hentai per se, but I do hate it when people tactlessly draw a Touhou character covered in semen and surrounded by cocks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:31:04 2012 No.8855923 >>8855893 What are you talking about? We have too otherwise people will forget canon and start spouting fanon as canon, like those walfa and deviantart people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:33:04 2012 No.8855932 File: 85 KB, 620x543, 1370449i.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8855902 "A-Anonymous isn't a hate machine, A-Anonymous is a love machine!"

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:34:03 2012 No.8855938 I hate fan artist who disregard canon and just do whatever they fucking please. Seriously, if you cannot draw a Touhou doujin without completely butchering the characters, then don't do it.

Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:34:03 2012 No.8855939

>>8855916
>>8855923
In my opinion it's okay to be a secondary who dislikes the gameplay of the official games as long as you still acknowledge the canon informations that are given to us.

I actually know someone like this who made up a plot for a imaginary touhou sequel where most bosses are boys.
To his defense, his fanshit is pretty reasonable and he puts alot of thought into everything

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:37:03 2012 No.8855950 File: 144 KB, 850x1002, sample-029f366973f2ad1ea90ba3c8eda5ae2a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hate how they mispelled Touhou on the toliet

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:37:34 2012 No.8855947 File: 1.17 MB, 1163x1141, 1334264329924.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to kick littleshrimp's hypocritical preteen little ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:40:34 2012 No.8855957 >>8855950 >misspell >romaji Are you for real?

>>	Gensokyo Gal XV !nLH26A83Ug Sat Apr 14 22:40:34 2012 No.8855959 File: 93 KB, 1019x1019, reimu glare.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8855950

Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:41:04 2012 No.8855967

>>8855916
>>8855913
I share the same dislike for those kinds of meme-spamming children you see so often on YouTube as well, but on the other side of the spectrum, I can't understand getting mad at a friend and excluding her from the Touhou fandom just because she finds the games not fun.

>>	Kilgamayan !2BklmILFiE Sat Apr 14 22:41:33 2012 No.8855966 I don't hate anything about Touhou canon. Unless the elitism it spawned counts. There are a good number of fanon things I would 86 if given the chance, but the one that stands out above all others is the concept of yukkuris.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:42:03 2012 No.8855972 Canon? nah man, I dont hate any of it Fanon: couple shipping - everything bad about Touhou. To me they arent different from yaoi fanfiction and its "fangirls". annoying as fuck

proREMIRIAt Elite Force Commander !rSDMROXTB. Sat Apr 14 22:42:03 2012 No.8855973

>What's the worst official thing that you hate about touhou?
Not to the extent of hating, but I dislike the lack of reappearance of older games characters. Also, the inconsistency of some canon "facts".

Oh, and that Zun is a racist asshole.

>What's the worst nonofficial thing that you hate about touhou?
Stale jokes and memes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:44:33 2012 No.8855982 >>8855966 Oh hey Kilga. So does that mean you like abyuse?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:45:04 2012 No.8855987 >>8855967 It is probably more my pent up frustation with her about other things than it is her being secondary. Just the way she says things sounds very pompous and elitist, like I was somehow wrong for liking the games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:45:33 2012 No.8855989 >>8855950 I hate it when artists take interpret the half-human aspect of Youmu too literally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:46:03 2012 No.8855998 >>8855973 ZUN isn't racist, he just thinks that westerners wouldn't be able to understand the references he puts into his games if he were to import them. And he's mostly right.

Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:49:03 2012 No.8856015

I hate the elitism that promotes factionalism in the fandom, like how Kaguya fans have to be hostile towards Mokou fans and vise versa. I also hate how people bash certain characters they aren't fond of just because they're jealous of how popular they are. All they do is create conflict and more hatred.

You know who the fuck you are.

>>	Gensokyo Gal XV !nLH26A83Ug Sat Apr 14 22:49:33 2012 No.8856012 >>8855998 So?! Sure the cultural references might be a little weird to Americans, but the games are FUN, and isn't that what counts?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:52:04 2012 No.8856021 >>8856015 Sanaefag detected. Your favorite touhou is a slut.

>>	Jumble of hate and !LoveLfcKaA Sat Apr 14 22:52:33 2012 No.8856020 Canon: Nothing, honestly, I love Touhou as a whole and how it's delivered, I don't even bother to search. Fanon: When people take it as canon and seriously.

Kilgamayan !2BklmILFiE Sat Apr 14 22:55:03 2012 No.8856029

>>8855982

No. I don't want them physically maimed, mindbroken, or any of that shit. I want them gone. I want every piece of yukkuri work to simultaneously disappear and for everyone to collectively lose all memory that they ever happened. And then I want mental blocks placed in everyone that will induce fatal seizures in anyone that comes up with the idea of recreating them.

They are worse than Tsundere Alice. They are worse than pad jokes. They are worse than masochistic Tenshi. They are worse than Yukarin is 17~. They are worse than Aya/Sanae/whoever is a slut. They are worse than LOL BAKA NINE EPIK WIN XD. They are even worse than Ryukishi07's ability to write a satisfying conclusion. Get them the fuck out of my fandom.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:55:33 2012 No.8856027 >>8856021 Thanks for proving my point. Also your detector is broken as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 22:56:34 2012 No.8856032 >>8856027 So you like the worst 2hu, then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 23:00:05 2012 No.8856045 File: 21 KB, 393x270, Aya Kimeemaru.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8856029 How can you hate Kimeemaru?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 23:00:33 2012 No.8856042 >>8856032 I like your favorite touhou.

>>	Jumble of hate and !LoveLfcKaA Sat Apr 14 23:01:05 2012 No.8856049 File: 70 KB, 360x200, TiE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8856029

Anonymous Sat Apr 14 23:03:05 2012 No.8856057

>What's the worst official thing that you hate about touhou?

I don't hate anything that's official.

>What's the worst nonofficial thing that you hate about touhou?

When the characters are altered in an obnoxious way. For example: "Alice lives near Marisa and they are acquainted" is a canon fact". "Alice might be Shinki's daughter" is a non-obnoxious fanon concept. "Alice secretly loves Marisa and is tsundere for her and feels all lonely when Marisa is not around and that's why she's always after her" is an extremely stupid AND obnoxious concept. I don't inherently dislike shipping, but the way it's usually done makes it fanfiction-level retarded.

Anonymous Sat Apr 14 23:17:34 2012 No.8856094

I don't really hate anything about canon Touhou. The setting is interesting and "cute" in a non-lewd way, and as a westerner I like finding out and learning about the cultural references. Canon Touhou just always makes me feel content and happy, and I like to immerse myself in it.

That being said, there are two things I seriously dislike about fanon Touhou. The first is the factionalism, when it's taken way too seriously: I can understand that people like some characters over others (and I see nothing wrong with it) but really now, there is REALLY no need to pick fights over it. I'd much rather talk about something actually interesting than skim over thousands of "Flandre 1st worst 2hou"- comments every single day.

The second thing that really rustles my jimmies is when people blur the line between canon and fanon. Some people despise the shippings and the hentai, and I understand and want to give those people the freedom of choice. There's nothing wrong with it. I also DO understand why some people like them, and I have to confess I actually do find some fanon-based memes and jokes funny. Shit hits the fan when people actually start to think that Alice really does have hots for Marisa, or that Sakuya really does wear pads, or that Sanae really is as slutty as fanon and hentai shows her to be. Really, there is a reason why these things are called fanon in the first place: they have NO real resemblance to the canon, and I hate when people think that.

Anonymous Sat Apr 14 23:24:04 2012 No.8856115

>>8856057
>"Alice might be Shinki's daughter" is a non-obnoxious fanon concept.
>"Alice secretly loves Marisa and is tsundere for her and feels all lonely when Marisa is not around and that's why she's always after her" is an extremely stupid AND obnoxious concept.

I think you got those two backwards. And that's even with all the care you took to make the latter sound bad (and nothing like the way it actually gets portrayed).

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 23:27:35 2012 No.8856120 >>8856115 No, anon is right. The tsundere alice is incredibly annoying while the Alice Shinki one is not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 23:28:34 2012 No.8856125 >>8856120 You missed the point he was making by at least a mile.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 14 23:40:34 2012 No.8856169 >>8855842 Well, looks like someone just perfectly summed up my feelings on the matter.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 00:00:04 2012 No.8856237
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Why do you guys hate pairings so much? I agree that pairings shouldn't be taken so far, but sometimes I think it's cute. For example Reimu and Marisa are very close friends, as seen in things like SSiB and WaHH, Would it be so wrong to assume that maybe one of them could develop a small crush on the other?
That goes for anyone, not just Reimu and Marisa. Touhous feel love too, /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 00:07:35 2012 No.8856260 >>8856237 NOOOOOOO TOUHOUS ARE PURE MAIDENS YOU ARE RUINING THEM

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 00:08:05 2012 No.8856267

>>8856237
Are you having them engage in anything of a sexual nature, whether it's willingly or unwillingly? Is this portrayal of the characters disrespectful to them? Does it go contrary to their established personalities? Does it include cancer like "pads" or "suppa tenko" or "X is a slut"?

If you answered Yes to any of the above questions, then please remove yourself from this world immediately. But if not, then okay.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 00:12:05 2012 No.8856277 >>8856267 what if they hug

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 00:22:04 2012 No.8856308 File: 1.95 MB, 1600x2262, 3395f38e39f6d8697582eeeb959b97fc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what if they kiss

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 00:32:35 2012 No.8856353 File: 46 KB, 315x259, reimari.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What if they hold hands?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 00:37:04 2012 No.8856380 >>8856237 >reimu giving out food not cannon

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 00:42:34 2012 No.8856401 https://boards.4chan.org/jp/res/8856266#8856397

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 01:00:36 2012 No.8856470

Apparantly alice often gets turned into tsundere blubbery moe moe instead of an introverted bitchy doll maker. I dont like the idea of that. As well, turning mokou into a standard style tsundere for kaguya is godawful as well. Canon? Well...well, shit, not much I know of I can really hate.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 01:30:35 2012 No.8856605

>>8855816
>What's the worst official thing that you hate about touhou?
Scoring. I suddenly suck at shit so much when I try to graze and get points as much as I can.

>Nonofficial
IOSYS' character interpretations. Thanks to that everyone thinks Cirno is the dumbest piece of shit alive.

I also dislike people who say they're "huge fans" of Touhou but don't even play the games. Really, it would be fun to see if more people played it instead of wanking off to how adorable stuttering tsundere Alice is. I also hate that one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 02:30:20 2012 No.8857058 File: 10 KB, 839x1200, GERANIUM_52.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8856353 >>8856308 >>8856237 > Forgetting that Everyone Is Straight In Gensokyo >Especially Marisa I still cry bitch tears to this doujin. It's fucking perfect

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 02:32:19 2012 No.8857075 >>8855816 >What's the worst official thing that you hate about touhou? The Ten Desires scoring system.

>>	Koshiro Sun Apr 15 02:32:20 2012 No.8857071 File: 37 KB, 988x1400, 021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8857058

>>	≦(￣^￣)≧ !!x+mnmrU0sW+ Sun Apr 15 02:34:20 2012 No.8857085 >>8856605 >Thanks to that everyone thinks Cirno is the dumbest piece of shit alive. That started with PoFV didn't it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 02:37:50 2012 No.8857106 >>8857085 It did, it did. But she wasn't made fun of for being an idiot that much till Cirno's Math Ass.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 02:37:50 2012 No.8857109 File: 440 KB, 1200x1695, 051_687r.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8857071 Dunno about that doujin.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 02:38:49 2012 No.8857115 >>8857109 Oh god, is this the legendary Eyebrows Yukari?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 02:39:19 2012 No.8857129 >>8856605 >>8857085 and ZUN himself said Cirno is stupid in a childish way, thats canon

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 02:45:49 2012 No.8857158 >>8857129 However, she's really smart, probably one of the smartest fairies in Gensokyo, aside from being the strongest of them all. It's kind of fun to think that she might be able to grow even more powerful enough to rival Reimu one day.

>>	Koshiro Sun Apr 15 02:47:51 2012 No.8857172 File: 279 KB, 850x850, 1320895988821.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8857129 >Canon >>8857158 > Secondary You have to be fucking kidding me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 02:49:49 2012 No.8857190 >>8857172 So you're saying Cirno is dumb as fuck can't read and is a weak fairy? Okay.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 02:52:19 2012 No.8857203 File: 217 KB, 800x900, plot armor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8857158 >It's kind of fun to think that she might be able to grow even more powerful enough to rival Reimu one day. sure thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 02:52:49 2012 No.8857205 >>8857158 She's smart for a fairy. That's like being strong for a 6-year-old.

>>	Koshiro Sun Apr 15 02:52:49 2012 No.8857206 File: 15 KB, 425x304, 1329634935103.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8857190 No. I'm saying you're dumb as fuck. Deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 02:54:50 2012 No.8857226 File: 19 KB, 400x500, high_five-2495.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8857206 >>8857206

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 03:01:50 2012 No.8857268 >>8855879 that shit is ridiculous. That would piss me off to no end. >I like Touhou. Games aren't fun >Insert knife into face of the bitch >Tell her quit being a bitch

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 03:02:49 2012 No.8857276 >>8857268 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 03:12:21 2012 No.8857329 >>8857268 Are you, by any chance, suffering from any severe forms of mental retardation or emotional instability?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 03:16:21 2012 No.8857373 File: 1006 KB, 1163x1141, 661585c1b2a55fa68eac6689edb1625e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8855947

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 03:31:50 2012 No.8857471

>>8857106
>she wasn't made fun of for being an idiot that much till Cirno's Math Ass

Please. Just... please. Could you be any newer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXCZ90Xk9bo

Pay attention to the date; and don't ever mention that shitty IOSYS ripoff again.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 03:33:19 2012 No.8857484

Official:
Eh, I don't know. I dislike the high number of characters. I think I would like it better if it had less new characters every game, and instead explore more the other featured characters.

Fanon:
The exaggerations... for example all this Cirno baka xD lol super dumb stuff, and Flandre being super madness crazy ww, etc.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 03:46:51 2012 No.8857556

I don't get it, why are you people complaining about Cirno being shown as dumb in the first place. To be exact, why are you directing your complaint at anyone but ZUN? It's like you never played her games, never read the fairies manga or Perfect Memento...

ZUN has always written most fairies and other lesser youkai as comically dumb. Cirno was always being singled out even among them. There's literally nothing that you'd be able to use to deny it.

I just don't get it. Looks like some mindless mob behavior to me. Kind of like the whole "canon evil malicious Alice" thing - secondaries repeating what others had said without double-checking their facts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 03:49:51 2012 No.8857572 >>8857556 How new are you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 03:51:21 2012 No.8857582 >>8857572 Was that a 'yes'?

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 03:51:22 2012 No.8857587

>>8855816
>If by any chance Cirno should attack, just start to talk calmly about anything, and when she shows interest it is a good time to ask her a riddle.

>When you do that, she will start to think of the answer, and that is a good opportunity to escape.

>No matter how simple the question, she can certainly not answer it.

Perfect Memento in Strict Sense by ZUN, 2006-12-27

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 03:55:51 2012 No.8857608 >>8857587 I wonder how she was able to learn how to read and formulate plans and make herself actually stronger.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 04:10:21 2012 No.8857694 >>8855879 >I hate the secondary fandom. Exactly this. If you can't beat games on normal, whatever. If you haven't even played them though then fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 04:17:22 2012 No.8857728 File: 352 KB, 600x800, 1304344371088.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8857587 Akyu is a bitch- terminallly ill, constantly stuck in pre-teen with the mind of an adult, it's no wonder she hates Cirno. See: Keine's entry.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 04:36:53 2012 No.8857792 I dislike how Aya, a crow, is portrayed as smarter than Utsuho, a raven, when in nature ravens are much more intelligent than crows. For proof that Utsuho is canonically unintelligent, see her dialogue in Hisoutensoku.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 04:39:21 2012 No.8857799 >>8857792 Okuu is versed in science. Isn't she just some kind of retard savant or something? She's like Touhou's Rain Man right?

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 04:43:51 2012 No.8857807

>>8857799
She can't tell Reimu from Sanae, she only knows that they're both shrine maidens. Ravens are able to not only identify faces, but also to communicate to other ravens what dangerous humans look like, so the other raven could identify a dangerous human without having seen that human performing the action which annoyed the first raven.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 05:00:51 2012 No.8857837 >>8857807 So Okuu is just a "super special" case. We haven't seen other hell ravens.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 05:13:21 2012 No.8857847 >>8857792 Actually the smartest bird is the New Caledonian crow. But raven is just a specie of crow anyway, nerd.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 05:21:51 2012 No.8857855 I only hate how difficult is to open portal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 05:27:51 2012 No.8857862 >>8857587 Nobody is denying that she is pretty dumb, but fanon exceggerates it and makes it look like it's her only defyning character trait

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 05:39:22 2012 No.8857876
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I wonder if people complaining about the quantity of pornographic material are aware of the fact that the majority of doujins produced are safe for work. Though mostly just hentai gets scanned and possibly translated. It's a shame.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 05:42:22 2012 No.8857882 >>8857876 That picture is safe for work, but it has a pretty significant what-the-fuck quotient.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 05:45:51 2012 No.8857887 I like Touhou. I hate you all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 05:46:51 2012 No.8857888 >>8857882 You haven't seen Totoro?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 05:49:51 2012 No.8857895 >>8857888 I'm afraid I have not, but Google image search is scaring the fuck out of me.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:01:52 2012 No.8857926

>>8857876
>Though mostly just hentai gets scanned and possibly translated. It's a shame.

That's not even true anymore. Go to exhentai, search for Touhou, check the first few pages. There's maybe a few porn titles in a blue sea of "NON-H".

I don't know what happened, but I think I like the development very much.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:09:51 2012 No.8857942

>>8857876

On exhentai, there are twice the amount of SFW touhou doujinshi than NSFW. And there are more non-H english translations than for H doujinshi.

http://exhentai.org/?f_doujinshi=on&f_search=touhou+english&f_apply=Apply+Filter

http://exhentai.org/?f_non-h=on&f_search=touhou+english&f_apply=Apply+Filter

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:15:22 2012 No.8857949 ｅｘｃｕｓｅ　ｍｅ　ｎｅｗ　ｔｏ　ｆｏｒｍｗｈａｔ　ｉｓ　ｔｏｕｈｏｕ　ａｎｄ　ｈｏｗ　ｄｏ　ｉ　ｄｏ　ｉｔｍｙ　ｐｒｅｖｉｏｓ　ｆｏｒｍ　ｎｅｖｅｒ　ｔｏｕｈｏｕｅｄ　ｓｏ　ｉ　ａｍ　ｃｏｎｆｕｓｉｏｎｔｈａｎｋ　ｙｏｕ　ｆｏｒ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｕｎｅｒｓｔａｎｄ

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:16:51 2012 No.8857951 >>8857949 ｉｔ　ｉｓ　ｓｈｏｏｔｉｎｇ　ｇａｍｅ

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:18:22 2012 No.8857953 >>8857951 ｌｉｋｅ　Ｈａｌｏ？　ｉ　ｔｈｏｕｇ　ｈｔ　ｉｔ　ｈａｄ　ｐｒｅｔｔｙ　ｇｉｒｌｓ

DE SU Sun Apr 15 06:19:52 2012 No.8857956
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>>8855816
>official
Sanae is a faith-stealing cunt.
>nonofficial
Oversexualisation, masturbation fodder, general H-stuff
They're lolis, damnit (well, some of them)! They're cute, don't turn them into slut machines. Touhou characters can bring up very strong emotions in manga with their bonds with eachother, then someone always has to come and be like "PORN, FUCK YEAH!"

>>	DE SU Sun Apr 15 06:21:21 2012 No.8857959 >>8857942 >exHENTAI >SFW Come on...

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:24:21 2012 No.8857963 >>8857959 ᶜᵒʳᵉᵃⁿ ᵈᵒᵍ ᵖʳᵒᵇˡʸ ᵖᵃⁿᵈᵃ ᵒᶠ ˢᵃᵈⁿᵉˢˢ ᶥ ᵃᵐ ˡᵃᵘᵍʰᶥⁿᵍ

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:33:51 2012 No.8857973 >>8857959 Did you even check the link, you idiot?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:36:22 2012 No.8857977 >Official Suwako, she's done a lot of shit already and got away with it without fixing the problem (Spirits from the underground, the river problem, etc) >non-official Mainly memes like pad xD

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:37:21 2012 No.8857982 I don't understand how anyone could love Touhou but hate the games. That's like saying you like Italian food but only eat pizza.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:39:22 2012 No.8857984 Nothing. Turning the characters into insane slutty nymphomaniacs and the "fans" that don't even like or play the games.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:52:22 2012 No.8858005
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Canon - I hate how fucking vague or warped so much of even the most basic goddamn information is. It seems like for any given "fact", there are 3 possibilities:

1) It's stated somewhere, but incredibly vaguely.
2) It's not stated anywhere and there's no information on it at all
or 3) There's some solid sources for it, but they're 'colored' somewhat by character perspective or artist representation

I care about all this crap because my autism demands I try and create a solidly concrete setting for all my creative faffing about, but it's practically impossible.

As for Fanon - As many here have stated, never been a fan of the porn. Have also never cared at all for all the "my 2hu can beat up ur 2hu" discussion/doujin material. And then of course there's the memespouting jackasses as have also been mentioned here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 06:57:51 2012 No.8858011 >>8858005 worst and 2nd worst 2hu

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 07:21:51 2012 No.8858073 >>8858005 But all this just means you have more room to create your own Gensokyo. No need for it to be the same as everyone else's Gensokyo. Sure, consensus may not be achievable, but consistency, at the very least, is not a problem.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 07:34:22 2012 No.8858090

>>8858073
Fuck you, my autism prevents me from accepting such incoherent concepts. There's just one Gensokyo and it can be found in ZUN's head. If you add anything of your own, it ceases to be Gensokyo.

There's only one way to interpret the canon works. I'm not saying I've personally gotten it right, but to claim that whatever bastardization of Gensokyo people create in their minds is correct, is pure blasphemy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 07:36:22 2012 No.8858097 >>8858090 The autism is strong in you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 07:37:53 2012 No.8858100 >>8858090 It's quite tragic that ZUN agrees with the blasphemy itself given his endorsement and encouragement of fanwork.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 07:58:21 2012 No.8858145 >>8858090 Get a load of this guy. A genuine aspie. Enjoy your stay.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 09:02:24 2012 No.8858300 >>8858145 He is does not have aspergers. He is merely speaking the truth and you are getting mad over it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 10:46:54 2012 No.8858553 >>8857926 >>8857942 Yeah, except they're deleting the whole Non-H category, and no one seeds the damn torrent with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:05:54 2012 No.8858613 >>8858553 >they're deleting the whole Non-H category What? Why? Also, what torrent?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:08:24 2012 No.8858620 >>8858553 PLEASE seed the goddamn torrent people, mine is stuck at 98.9% for about a month.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:08:53 2012 No.8858623 >>8858097 >>8858145 There is a different from being autistic and being completely fucking retarded. He's, quite obviously, the latter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:09:23 2012 No.8858624 >What's the worst official thing that you hate about touhou? The games >What's the worst nonofficial thing that you hate about touhou? The fanbase

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:21:54 2012 No.8858656
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>>8858553

No they're not, they're just deleting things like "NARUTO CHAPTER 984561".

Read http://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=58948 for more informations about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:24:24 2012 No.8858667 >official Closed source. >unofficial Nasty H works, as opposed to nice ones.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:29:23 2012 No.8858685

>>8858656

Oh, I didn't see the members actually managed to act up for the Non-H section. That's good news, thanks.
For the guy that asked, they were originally going to remove everything Non-H because of said "NARUTO CHAPTER ONE MILLION" copyrighted material.

Anyway, yeah: >>8858620 mine's been exactly on 98.9% too. How strange. Maybe no one has the file for one single doujin, so it stops there?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:33:53 2012 No.8858696 Well, I kinda dislike how all touhous are canonically jerks. I really hate a lot of the fanon memes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:41:53 2012 No.8858724 >>8858696 >Well, I kinda dislike how all touhous are canonically jerks. I love it.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:47:54 2012 No.8858743

>>8858696

I don't think they're jerks, they're just quick to start fights. When you look at the dialogue you wonder why they're even fighting for at least half of the fights, especially for the first few stages.

They can't be huge jerks because they drink tea together like best pals at the end.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:49:23 2012 No.8858749 >>8858743 It's because if Touhou won't attend tea party, then Reimu might kill that Touhou.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 11:49:54 2012 No.8858748

>official
I know the story has never been ZUN's main focus in the games, but some of them have really stupid grounds. EoSD and PCB are probably the worst. I mean Remilia releases this red mist (and it's never explained where it actually comes from) just to block out the sun when she can have Sakuya carry a parasol for her instead.

Also Orin, fuck her.

>nonofficial
People begging for Mima to return and then flipping their shit when she inevitably doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 12:00:24 2012 No.8858785 I hate how you can't beat every boss with continues, I just want to bomb everything. I hate how everyone has extreme personalities, if someone is slightly stupid, she's the biggest idiot in the planet, etc...

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 12:14:36 2012 No.8858841 >>8858748 >Also Orin, fuck her. I really don't know how ZUN screws up difficulty so badly for his games. Some of the 4'th / 5'th stage bosses are harder than the actual extra / final stage. Does it do this on purpose?

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 12:28:06 2012 No.8858893

>>8858748
What's wrong with pcb's storyline?
Also EoSD is a little dodgy, though it wouldn't be too unreasonable to think she wanted the freedom to walk around WITHOUT having to have a parosal over her head at all times...

Also I'm probably alone on this, but I always assumed the 9 ball picture with pofv was reffering to the player, rather than cirno herself, though GFW went along with the idea of cirno being a tad stupid anyway.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 12:30:07 2012 No.8858898

>Official
Some of the newer games seem to be more CPU intensive than they should be. Such as TD, I can not play it due to how poorly optimized it is.
I really don't think a game such as touhou should take up 90% of my core processor.

>Non official
I really hate the flash animations of songs on youtube, it's really attracting the wrong type of crowd.
There are now hundreds of people that actually think that Touhou is a flash animation fad on youtube or even an anime. And they are bewildered when they find out that touhou is a game.
These same people are the people who find the fanon jokes such as Alice stuttering and Cirno being stupid funny. I really think the entire community would be better if these videos were never created.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 12:32:06 2012 No.8858905

>>8858898

Maybe you should upgrade your Pentium I, Anon.

>>8858841

I agree completely. The increase in difficult from stage 3 to stage 4 is enormous in almost every game. I really hate it in Imperishable Night, the Reimu/Marisa fight for me is much harder than the Reisen or Eirin one.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 13:06:07 2012 No.8859013
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OK, just to clarify

>>8858090 This douchebag is not >>8858005 me. I went to bed right after I made that post.

That's a stupid way of looking at things and I don't reach anywhere near those levels of aspie-ness.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 13:22:06 2012 No.8859078

>>8858905
I'm pretty sure that's intentional and I'm fine with it. Stage 4 is when things start to get serious, rather than beating up random youkai who get in the way.

I do get pretty annoyed by stage 5 being harder than 6 though. Sakuya is harder than Remilia and Orin is harder than Utsuho at the very least. Youmu is also arguably harder than Yuyuko.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 13:31:39 2012 No.8859127

>>8858748
>it's never explained where it actually comes from

Her fingers.

>when she can have Sakuya carry a parasol for her instead

That's still a huge pain in the ass. Mist is a better and more comprehensive solution.

>Also Orin, fuck her.

I understand the sentiment, but we can't have that in the pure and modest Touhou storyline.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 13:36:41 2012 No.8859148

>official
many of the scenarios of the game plots are just full retard.
Nearly all of the "incidents" should never have happened in the first place had the instigators used proper judgement.
And of course your efforts are in vain aside from gaining a new friend because the incidents would have resolved themselves without your interference anyway.

>non-official
Let's just go with the non-official entity itself. Touhou is a vertical-scrolling shmup, not fodder for annoying faggy roleplaying in the comments section of whatever unfortunate page.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 16:50:08 2012 No.8859929
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The only official thing I can think of that I don't like is the UFO system in UFO, and the orb system in TD.
I really dislike it when bombs and lives are collected piece by piece.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 17:58:38 2012 No.8860145

I've been wondering:
Most people in this thread seems to dislike touhou hentai, or at least over sexualization of touhous, and also memes like "x is a slut"

Then how come we have a lot of people here saying "sanae is a slut aya is a slut etc" and posting lewd and fetishistic touhou images and threads? Well, the first is most likely just shitposting, but what about the second one?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:00:08 2012 No.8860152 >>8860145 I report and don't participate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:00:37 2012 No.8860155 >>8860145 Because the four or five people in the thread who said they dislike Touhou sexualizattion are not the only posters on /jp/

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:01:07 2012 No.8860158 >>8860156 Even so, this thread does not contain every poster on /jp/

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:01:38 2012 No.8860156 >>8860155 But it wasn't just four people. The majority here seemed to dislike it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:04:37 2012 No.8860162 >>8859148 >Touhou is a vertical-scrolling shmup It's more than that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:04:37 2012 No.8860166 >>8860158 So the sexualizing freaks are the minority. Thank goodness. They're really annoying

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:12:07 2012 No.8860190 >>8860166 I don't get why anyone cares in the first place. It's Touhou. Sexuality has nothing to do with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:14:07 2012 No.8860194 >>8860190 Huh? Can you be more clearer?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:15:37 2012 No.8860195 >>8860190 Disgusting widdel tuhuu sexualizer.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:21:07 2012 No.8860205

>>8860194
Not the one you are replying to, but if you're a true fan, you know that Touhou has nothing sexual in it. Which is why you should also be able to keep the ero content and the non-ero content separate from each other, and not get so pissed over people masturbating to the ero content. It shouldn't bother you (or anyone in general) nearly as much as it seems to. If you don't like the ero content, you don't really have to hate those who are able to appreciate the ero content as well as everything else. But I agree that those people who constantly talk about sexualizing Touhous really annoying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:24:07 2012 No.8860216 Worst in canon is forgetting PC-98 series Worst in fanon is grimdark versions of Gensokyo, they always make me very depressive.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:25:08 2012 No.8860220

>>8860205
> But I agree that those people who constantly talk about sexualizing Touhous really annoying.

That's exactly the problem here. I don't particularly mind ero content, but there are some people who simply cannot fathom the idea of touhous not being stuffed by dicks and swallowing cum 24/7, and this shit is very annoying.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:31:07 2012 No.8860229

>>8860194

Forgive my ambiguity. What I was trying to say was, I don't understand why anyone would want to introduce sexuality, an element that doesn't exist in Touhou, instead of trying to append to the existing concept. Like, adding to the story of CiaLR, chapter 8, 9, etc, instead of making doujins of Reimu gobbling cock and Tenshi impregnated by faceless men.
I do not understand what reasoning brings derivative artists and authors to do this.
And just like >>8860205 said, I completely agree with him, too.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:35:37 2012 No.8860236

I hate how Reimu acts sometimes during storyline, especially some of her lines during UFO's final stage.

I hate the fans that don't play the games but watch the flash animations, Mima and Yuuka HURR DURR THEY'RE THE STRONGEST THEY CAN PWNT ANYONE, Cirno even having to do with GETs here, Alice being a lonely stalker, actually any of Marisa's harem, no wait, touhou harems in general, CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN :3:3:33333

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:40:38 2012 No.8860246
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Uh, I try to ignore things I don't like.
So I'll say things I like about Touhou instead.
I like ZUN's art in the shmup games. They're cute.
I also like derivative art that mimics his art.

Like this.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:53:41 2012 No.8860272

I don't hate anything about the official touhou stuff.

I hate the whole blacktewi shit with people going on about how ZUN wants others to tell stories and that their retarded and pointless fan theories and fanworks are true as long as ZUN doesn't disprove them. No, Sakuya is not a lunarian, Reimu isn't Yukari, Sanae isn't a youkai, Letty isn't Cirno's mother, Neko Scarlet doesn't exist, neither does your shitty selfinsert or Rin Satsuki.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:57:41 2012 No.8860289

>>8860272

>Sakuya is not a lunarian, Reimu isn't Yukari, Sanae isn't a youkai, Letty isn't Cirno's mother, Neko Scarlet doesn't exist, neither does your shitty selfinsert or Rin Satsuki

Al the ones you posted are indeed retarded, but just because they are trying to force it as canon. What's wrong with people having their own imagination?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:59:37 2012 No.8860295 >>8860272 I think you would make a great spokesperson for 上海アリス幻樂団! I hear ZUN is taking applications this year and I highly suggest that you apply. Good luck!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:59:37 2012 No.8860296 >>8860289 Because some people actually try to force that as canon on others.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 18:59:37 2012 No.8860298 >>8860289 >What's wrong with people having their own imagination? The people complaining don't have one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 19:01:07 2012 No.8860304 >>8855816 what's wrong with her legs? did the artist just get lazy? unforgivable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 19:04:37 2012 No.8860311 >>8860298 Just because you can't force your fanfictions on others doesn't mean they have no imagination.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 19:04:37 2012 No.8860313 >>8860272 I have a "Gensokyo of my own" too, but whenever I think of I'd never object canon and only imaginate those things that would actually make sense, even when creating my self insert character

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 19:05:38 2012 No.8860317 >>8860296 Sure, some people say things like that, but they don't force anything on anyone; you're just being paranoid. If anything, the "loyal" canon-only followers force their canon-only perspective on those who have a little creativity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 19:06:08 2012 No.8860322 >>8860313 Paradise Lost was pretty good, but don't treat it as canon please. It wasn't meant to be canon in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 19:06:37 2012 No.8860321 >>8860311 And just because they have an imagination doesn't mean they want to force it on others.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 19:46:08 2012 No.8860470 Futo being a character. Gender swapping

Alpharius Sun Apr 15 19:50:38 2012 No.8860485

>>8860229
I'm sorry, but your wording is still somewhat ambiguous, at least to my mind. Does that mean that you dislike people adding to the story of existing games or introducing sexual elements between existing characters, or that you dislike people making doujins of Reimu gobbling cock and Tenshi being impregnated by faceless men?

I'd actually prefer the former over the latter, as I actually like a little bit of story and background in my pornography. If it cuts right to the fucking with no buildup I don't find it particularly satisfying. I understand that sex and sexuality aren't themes touched upon in Touhou at all, but I further understand that fanworks introducing said elements don't somehow taint the canon by their mere existence, nor imply the existence of themes in the canon that are not, in fact, there. For example, I can enjoy Cirno and Reimu's 1-2-3 while realizing that it's utterly ridiculous and bears little-to-no resemblance to the games from which it is derived.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 19:56:07 2012 No.8860512 File: 125 KB, 480x700, Yuuka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8860470 He's made out of pure sex, look at him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 19:57:08 2012 No.8860516 >>8860470 Why don't you like Futo? I think she's pretty cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 20:22:45 2012 No.8860611 File: 91 KB, 480x640, OkuuGenderswap.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8860470 What are you, some kind of heterosexual? Just look at this epitome of perfection: >>8860512

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 20:27:45 2012 No.8860632 File: 257 KB, 800x1150, 1307200592393.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hate that zun uses the same DAMNakus over and over. Yukkuri torture.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 20:31:14 2012 No.8860654

>>8860229

I understand how the excess of porn (that goes way beyond the normal sexualization men inevitably end up inserting on anything they like a lot), overlapping and consuming time that could be used for interesting Non-H can be frustrating, but you know that lots of H works, not only in Touhou, are made just for the extra income they can get to an author in need, right?
You draw one of those 20 page works of Suwako getting tentacles into her anus and going out of her mouth, makes a few bucks in the Comiket, and thank God that ZUN was born.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 20:32:14 2012 No.8860663 >>8860654 >interesting Non-H Are you guys serious?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 20:37:15 2012 No.8860694 >>8860289 You're right, Sakuya is a vampire. That's why she has red eyes in the first game, and blue eyes in all subsequent games, she used to drink human blood and now she drinks animal blood like Twilight.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 20:42:15 2012 No.8860715 File: 51 KB, 339x298, 1334220733021.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8860663 >>8860663

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 20:42:15 2012 No.8860722 >>8860663 Yes believe it.

>>	Gensokyo Gal XV !nLH26A83Ug Sun Apr 15 20:43:15 2012 No.8860729 File: 195 KB, 429x600, cirno sweat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8860694 >Embodiment of Scarlet Devil >"the first game"

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 20:45:14 2012 No.8860733 >>8860729 The PC-98 games canonically don't exist in the real world, kind of like the Star Wars Holiday Special.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 20:45:14 2012 No.8860736 >>8860694 Why would Reimu be Yukari anyway? I don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 20:52:44 2012 No.8860761 >>8860729 The first game with Sakuya in it, genius.

>>	Alpharius Sun Apr 15 20:59:44 2012 No.8860786 >>8860733 I played the first PC-98 game and really didn't see the appeal of it. I might give it another go, but it didn't have that sort of compelling "I suck at this, I need to play more" gameplay that other Touhou games have.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:00:44 2012 No.8860791 >>8860786 Did you try the first PC-98 game that was actually danmaku? I thought Highly Responsive to Prayers was beyond boring.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:01:44 2012 No.8860798 >>8860733 In a dialogue between Yuuka and Reimu in PoFV Reimu says that she beat her before and "everything turned to normal", referring to Lotus Land Story, comfirming it as canon and that the events of it actually happened.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:05:44 2012 No.8860815
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>>8860694

I've tried to figure out just what the hell Sakuya actually is. This is another example of information clashing with each other.

By and large she's referred to as just being human. Remilia has expressed concern a number of times about her mortal lifespan, either making her a vampire, or talking about what she thinks about becoming one of the Hourai. But then we've got her talking about how Sakuya has been around so long she barely even thinks of her as human anymore. And for a creature that is 500~ years old, that's no small span of time.

There's also all the references nudging at the idea that Sakuya is actually much older than her appearance suggests. Then there's the Lunarian connection dropped in Eirin's IN profile.

Y'know what, fuck it, see >>8858005 so I can save myself a rant.

Alpharius Sun Apr 15 21:06:14 2012 No.8860819

>>8860791
I played a few of the other PC-98 games, but I don't know if English patches exist and I can't into moon yet. I'm still at a really basic "can only use hiragana" level. I might return to the 98 games once I can understand what's being said, or actually clear a game without continues.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:07:14 2012 No.8860822 >>8860694 You can think that if you want: However, if you ever take it outside of your brain, be prepared to be called a retard. Because, in my opinion, what you said is retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:07:14 2012 No.8860829 >>8860815 Making her a lunarian would solve the age problem. Just sayin'

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:08:45 2012 No.8860832 >>8860815 Sakuya is like 20 or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:09:14 2012 No.8860837 >>8860819 You can look up the dialogue on the touhouwiki.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:10:14 2012 No.8860845 >>8860815 About not spending $10,000,000 on an apology to China

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:13:44 2012 No.8860860 Worst official thing? Nothing really. Worst unofficial thing? Faggots who think /jp/ is a Touhou imageboard. It's not. Every other fanbase here manages to condense their bullshit into one thread except you. Touhou fans are like proto-bronies.

Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:16:45 2012 No.8860873
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>>8860829

Yes, I've considered that. Problem is the wording on said line in Eirin's profile. Pulling this from the wiki so I'm kind of trusting their translation source:

"Eirin is very surprised to see Sakuya, but only Eirin knows the reason why. "

I -could- just be looking too far into it, but that seems to imply to me that Sakuya is unaware of whatever the reason happens to be in this situation. That she perhaps is connected to the Lunarians in some way that she is not even aware of.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:17:44 2012 No.8860877 >>8860832 No she isn't. ZUN himself said shes in the range of 14-20

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:18:45 2012 No.8860881 >>8860860 EXCELLENT POST

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:20:44 2012 No.8860893 I hate about Touhou canon that Marisa's title is "ordinary magician", when in fact, she's everything but ordinary and her article in the Gensokyo Chronicles starts with "Marisa is an unusual magician"

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:24:14 2012 No.8860922 >>8860877 >is like 20 or something >range of 14-20 That range includes 20.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:25:15 2012 No.8860930 >>8860877 >ZUN himself said [citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 15 21:34:14 2012 No.8860976 >>8860930 Wow, you don't know this? How new are you? It's common knowledge in the /jp/ userbase. Anon, being in /jp/ for just a few weeks doesn't make you /jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 16 03:18:04 2012 No.8862477 File: 142 KB, 640x480, ichizoku.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >What's the worst official thing that you hate about touhou? EoSD Scoring >What's the worst nonofficial thing that you hate about touhou? Some of the more ignorant fanbase

Anonymous Mon Apr 16 12:13:44 2012 No.8863803

>>8860815
Sakuya's ability allows her to stop her body from aging.

From which follows:
- whether she's human or not is irrelevant as far as her lifespan is concerned
- there's nothing that'd indicate she's not human in the first place; no reason to not believe everyone claiming she is one

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 16 12:34:46 2012 No.8863874 >>8860877 >>8860976 Whoa, slow down there, pal! Some people may actually believe you!

Anonymous Mon Apr 16 17:15:17 2012 No.8865091
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>>8863803

>Sakuya's ability allows her to stop her body from aging.

Where did you read this from? Or is this just assumed because time powers somehow equals fucking with human aging cycles?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 16 17:23:44 2012 No.8865130 About Sakuya's age: >She claims to be in her late teens, but this is unlikely judging by her refined manner and the level of her abilities. Rather, she seems to be a human who has been living for hundreds of years From Perfect Memento in Strict Sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 16 20:35:16 2012 No.8866150 >>8865091 >time powers somehow equals fucking with human aging cycles Yes, it does, in fact, equal fucking with living beings' aging cycles (see: EoSD, Marisa A ending).

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