>Mom just died. >Don't give a shit. Is this experiencing Satori?

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Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:31:37 2012 No.8668386 [Reply] [Original]

>Mom just died.
>Don't give a shit.

Is this experiencing Satori?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:32:37 2012 No.8668389 It's called being a sociopath. Get help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:33:07 2012 No.8668395 how much inheritance are you getting? when my mom finally dies i'll be getting her 2 million USD house.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:36:37 2012 No.8668402 >>8668395 I'm getting the alcohol she left under the cupboard. She died of cirrhosis, just like I told her she would if she kept drinking.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:37:07 2012 No.8668404 >>8668386 ＯＰ　ｙｏｕ　ｓｕｂｃｏｎｓｃｉｏｕｓｌｙ　ｗａｎｔ　ｕｓ　ｔｏ　ｃｈｅｅｒ　ｙｏｕ　ｕｐ　ｂｙ　ｐｏｓｔｉｎｇ　ｔｈｉｓ．　Ｉ　ｓｕｇｇｅｓｔ　ｔｈａｔ　ｙｏｕ　ｓｅｅｋ　ｐｒｏｆｅｓｓｉｏｎａｌ　ｈｅｌｐ　ｉｎｓｔｅａｄ．

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:38:07 2012 No.8668406 File: 73 KB, 691x539, Lord_of_the_Rings_Return_of_the_King_Ext_2003_720p_BluRay_QEBS5_AAC20_MP4-FASM.mp4_snapshot_03.50.22_[2011.10.28_21.34.34].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8668404 Am I that transparent, Sam?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:38:07 2012 No.8668410 >>8668389 This. It's not cool or edgy, it's awful. She's your mother.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:38:07 2012 No.8668411 I remember being 10 or 11 when my grandfather died. I was raised by my granaparents and I saw him like a father. I just couldn't cry though. I cared, but I just really didn't feel sad or hurt enough to cry.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:40:07 2012 No.8668414 its a mixture of grief and relief its a part of life, everyone experiences it, you are apart of it. no, its not a transcendental experience, its simply life. cry if you want, cry when you will...

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:41:38 2012 No.8668417 Was she a huge bitch OP? If she was a huge bitch, then it's ok.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:42:07 2012 No.8668420 >>8668414 >ellipses Dude. Suck my dick. Seriously. Get down on your knees and suck the semen straight out of my testes you fucking FAGGOT.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:45:37 2012 No.8668430 >>8668417 Not to me, no. She liked me because I basically inherited her low self-esteem and extreme laziness. It's probably because of the latter that I don't care.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:47:10 2012 No.8668441 Go back to bed Mersault.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:48:10 2012 No.8668442 and what, you're bragging about it here? /jp/ isn't your blog etc, you'll feel it some day, it sometimes delays.

>>	Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 00:49:07 2012 No.8668445 OP, you sound like me. We should be bros. Shame about you mother, though. She also sounds nice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:50:07 2012 No.8668449 File: 577 KB, 800x680, 089323728975295.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8668442 I don't think you understand. I'm the first person who has lost her parents, I think I've earned the right to brag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:50:07 2012 No.8668451 >>8668430 Which brings us back to >>8668389 Reported because you're using your own mother's death for attention whoring.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:51:07 2012 No.8668455 File: 183 KB, 567x399, 1295198575335.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is everyone surprised that /jp/ doesn't have a healthy relationship with mom?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:52:07 2012 No.8668458 >>8668449 You're the first person? of whar group? I'm confused, you still have no right to brag, go to r9k or something if you want pity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:52:37 2012 No.8668459 >>8668449 Bullshit, I lost my father a year ago and /jp/ didn't learn anything. You know why? Because I'm not an attention whore. Reported for spam. Delete your fucking thread.

Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 00:52:37 2012 No.8668461

>>8668442
So you say, but it's been years since the man who raised me died and it has never "hit me." The only thing that upset me about it was that I was expected to attend the funeral. Being full on hikki at the time, that... didn't work out so well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:53:38 2012 No.8668463 >>8668458 >>8668459 The joke flew pretty far over your heads there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:54:37 2012 No.8668466 >>8668430 >>8668449 You may want to troll, Joseph, but threads about dead mothers aren't funny. They are shameful.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:55:38 2012 No.8668470 >>8668463 There is no joke whatsoever in this thread, Joseph, and you know it.

>>	Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 00:56:37 2012 No.8668475 It's funny how different the responses are, spanning the gamut from "you're a fucking sociopath" to "we don't care, fuck off."

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:57:07 2012 No.8668478 >>8668475 Who the fuck are you? The internet sensation of the month? Fuck off

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 00:58:09 2012 No.8668482 >>8668478 I like how the trips who do actual shitposting (you know who you are) never get this much hate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:00:08 2012 No.8668489 >>8668482 Those kinds of people thrive off hatred. Flaming them is self-defeating.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:02:38 2012 No.8668493 >>8668482 You tell me who I am, Josh, I've never used a trip in my life.

>>	Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 01:02:38 2012 No.8668494 >>8668478 I'm your fucking senpai, kid. Lurk the fuck more. >>8668489 >thrive off hatred Oohhh. Time for some Gluttony Fang.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:03:39 2012 No.8668496 >>8668482 Actually, this is the first time I've noticed where someone called out this particular tripfag. As for the ones who do the real shitposting, I think /jp/ is not vocal enough about them.

Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 01:05:09 2012 No.8668502

>>8668496
People hate me for being "new" all the time. You should pay more attention.

Ironically, in the past, new tripfags weren't hated anywhere near this much... At least, not for being new.

Hell, even Sakura hates me now. What a joke.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:05:38 2012 No.8668499 >>8668494 Unknown tripfriends aren't anyone's "senpai", you fucking weeb who can't even post in the right thread. Go log in back to reddit where it's easier to post.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:07:38 2012 No.8668505 >>8668502 >At least, not for being new. Nobody gets called out just for being new. Something about your posting has to be otherwise objectionable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:07:38 2012 No.8668506 >>8668502 >Ironically, in the past, new tripfags weren't hated anywhere near this much... At least, not for being new. Stop using "In the past" for three months ago, gaiafag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:08:38 2012 No.8668508 >>8668502 pretty sure I got the "new trip" treatment as well, plus some because I didn't make a point of making every post of mine pointlessly inflammatory.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:08:38 2012 No.8668510 >>8668502 >Hell, even Sakura hates me now. What a joke. Is this supposed to be surprising or even interesting?

>>	Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 01:09:38 2012 No.8668512 >>8668505 >Nobody gets called out just for being new. Hahahahahahahahaha! Riiiight. >>8668506 Try three years ago.

>>	Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 01:10:41 2012 No.8668519 >>8668510 Well, yeah. We were bros back in the day, after all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:11:41 2012 No.8668522 nobody on /jp/ cares about how "new" someones trip is. Its the content of your posts that is the issue. You would be hearing the same responses if you were posting anonymously, because you're clearly an awful poster.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:12:41 2012 No.8668524 >>8668512 >Hahahahahahahahaha! Riiiight. I'm glad you agree. Of course, since you're being sarcastic, you're probably just in denial.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:12:41 2012 No.8668525 >>8668512 Sorry, kiddo, I know "three years ago" is popular to use when you want to sound experienced, but you haven't been here that long. You're too much of a gaiafaggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:13:41 2012 No.8668528 >>8668525 How long have you been here yourself?

>>	Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 01:14:41 2012 No.8668530 File: 14 KB, 317x367, 4821949214.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8668525 >>8668522 >>8668524

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:15:41 2012 No.8668533 >>8668530 Board veteran or not (I happen to know it's the former but it's a moot point), you're a shitty poster either way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:16:41 2012 No.8668536 File: 30 KB, 351x366, 1237876509880.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8668530 Get a load of this crying nerd.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:18:41 2012 No.8668542 File: 4 KB, 169x169, 1327813721318.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8668536

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:20:08 2012 No.8668551 You haven't even matured to the point of not replying to every post about you, let alone to the point of discarding your trip, and here's to hoping you do some day.

>>	Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 01:21:08 2012 No.8668553 >>8668533 Oh, I'm certainly shitty by your standards. I happen to be quite fond of myself, though.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:24:08 2012 No.8668560

This thread sure went far afield.

I don't even want to think about what it would be like if one of my parents died, or how I would react or feel in such a situation. Even considering it makes me uncomfortable.

I cried my eyes out when my grandmother died when I was of single-digit age, but none of my relatives have died since then besides a great-grandmother who I had only met once.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:24:08 2012 No.8668561 Jesus, /jp/ is like a miniature model of Japanese nationalism. Only the nation is /jp/ and the pure bloods are autismals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:29:38 2012 No.8668571 >>8668561 /jp/ is communism realized. Our hate to others doesn't aim their origin, but their way of functioning. I've welcomed way more newfriends, rather than call them out, simply because they don't post like this faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:30:08 2012 No.8668573 Never had a problem with people dying, even relatives. I guess it's because I never really get to know anyone enough, coupled with the fact that death really isn't all that bad.

Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 01:35:08 2012 No.8668588

>>8668573
>coupled with the fact that death really isn't all that bad
I don't get why people freak out about it. Dying can be a real bitch, but being dead itself is basically the ultimate in taking it easy. I don't see the issue.

My interpretation? They're selfish cunts who just want to keep the dead around to please themselves. They don't even stop to think about how their half-crazy grandpa in a nursing home on fifty different drugs would feel about having another five or ten years left.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:36:38 2012 No.8668593 >>8668386 I'm sorry for your loss.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:37:09 2012 No.8668596 i am truley sorry for your lots

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:37:38 2012 No.8668599 Don't worry, you'll feel it eventually and it will hurt like a bitch. My condolences.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:40:08 2012 No.8668604 File: 36 KB, 198x228, 1078946756754.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8668466 >Joseph

>>	Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 01:44:38 2012 No.8668612 >>8668599 I also feel like this bullshit right here is a way of socially pressuring someone into feeling bad about it when they actually do not give a fuck. Fucking normalfags, I swear.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:48:09 2012 No.8668625 File: 64 KB, 400x400, 1273560840397.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8668560 I cry at complete strangers funerals. I've never lost a family member. not sure how I'll handle it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:51:08 2012 No.8668635 It's weird, I feel more emotion reading VNs and manga than to actual sad events happening around myself in reality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 04:00:25 2012 No.8669114 >>8668625 How many funerals of complete strangers have you attended?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 12:45:38 2012 No.8670419 >>8669114 Several. Friends of friends and family and such.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 13:07:18 2012 No.8670510

When my dad died I cried for about 5 hours straight, even though I made a concious effort to avoid him at home. I couldn't even bring myself to see his dead body at the hospital. I was surprised that my mother could because she was crying the hardest she ever had a couple hours before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 14:12:29 2012 No.8670749 >>8668612 >socially pressuring someone into feeling bad about it when they actually do not give a fuck. that wasn't my intention, tripfag. When someone experiences a loss it is customary to send their condolences.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:19:15 2012 No.8670975

I haven't felt a strong emotion besides hatred and ill feelings towards internet entities for about 5 years. I don't see it as something positive nor negative, I just don't give a fuck. I sometimes miss that feelings when I'm consuming a particularly good piece of Japanese media.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:21:45 2012 No.8670983 Don't kill any Arabs, OP.

>>	Okuu !!Jq0MHPvHhpb Wed Mar 7 15:26:15 2012 No.8670998 File: 53 KB, 218x240, 1328198206768.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8668442 THIS.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:26:15 2012 No.8670999
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When I was like 10, my grandma died.

I didn't feel a single thing.

Now, I'm 22, and I see my grandpa on the verge of death.

I just don't feel a single thing.

My mom sometimes asks me if I even care whether she dies or not.

I don't answer, but the truth is that I wouldn't.

You know, people were supposed to learn that humans have a 100% mortality rate when they were like 5. Yeah, back then, when I learned that I and everyone else are going to die, I was devastated and had nightmares.

And now I've gotten over it. People die. It's just how shit works. Why act so surprised when it does happen?

Besides. Why should I care about humans, especially 3D ones? Fuck them all. They never cared about me. They just enjoy making it look like they do, and then asking me why I don't give a shit about them in return.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:31:16 2012 No.8671019 No one cares about your oh so cool sasuke no feelings skills >>>/soc/ >>>/r9k/

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:33:15 2012 No.8671022 I cried a lot before my father died, when he was in a coma. But not afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:36:16 2012 No.8671032 >>8668386 I'd fucking get a depression if my mom died. At the very least I'd be inconsolable. And I don't even depend in her financially. Tbh, I'd rather die myself than have one of my close relatives die. Yeah, I'm soft like that.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:38:46 2012 No.8671040

I kind of wish my whole family would die. Then I wouldn't have to bother with the outside world ever again.

Of course I could just stop visiting them and answering their calls but that seems rather rude. Not to mention my mom would probably think I've killed myself or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:55:45 2012 No.8671078 >>8671040 >doesn't want to be rude to family >wishes they were all dead who am i quoting?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:57:45 2012 No.8671094 >>8671078 If I'm not the one behind their deaths, it's okay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:59:51 2012 No.8671102 OP is your name Meursault?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:01:45 2012 No.8671105 >>8671102 read the thread, that joke was already used.

>>	KING OF /jp/ !2K23m85knQ Wed Mar 7 16:01:45 2012 No.8671107 File: 72 KB, 600x800, b5a7a107864acd5c030881dd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This whole thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:02:15 2012 No.8671109 >>8671102 Mersault got mad pussy, so no.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:03:15 2012 No.8671113 >>8671105 Twice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:05:15 2012 No.8671119 >>8671105 ctrl+f Meursault only one result, from me fuck you! >>8671107 and fuck you too for that matter for using those disgusting gook pictures

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:09:15 2012 No.8671130 >>8671078 I know how that guy's feeling, it sucks being loved, I'd rather them be dead than be the cause of their emotional anguish.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:09:15 2012 No.8671131 >>8671119 you might want to look at this post >>8668441

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:10:46 2012 No.8671135 >>8668386 I'm genuinely sorry for your loss. We're here for you. Now I just hope nothing like this happens to me in the near future.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:10:46 2012 No.8671137 >>8671130 do they really love you if they don't accept you as what you are? trying to change people into your vision of what is correct isn't love, it is akrasia

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:18:16 2012 No.8671163 >>8671137 Whatever, all I know is that they wouldn't like it if I disappeared from their life, for one reason or another.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:24:16 2012 No.8671182

People have different ways of reacting to death. There's no "right" way to feel about it. Others can't even imagine something like that happening to them, so they assume what they would feel is what you should too. Ignore them and give yourself some time to work through it all. There's nothing wrong with being at terms with your mothers death, and there's nothing wrong with letting out any grief you might have over it either, if that ever comes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:25:45 2012 No.8671185 >>8671163 i always found this notion odd. people have an attachment to other human beings to such a degree that it stops being a benefit and just becomes a hindrance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:33:46 2012 No.8671200 File: 2.38 MB, 1800x1200, 1329791837419.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8668612 >>8668588 >>8668553 >>8668530 >>8668519 >>8668512 >>8668502 >>8668494 >>8668461 Please kill yourself. You're worse than kingofjp.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:35:16 2012 No.8671210

>>8671182

You've got the idea.

Personally, I was sadder when my dog was electrocuted than when any of my relatives who died passed away -- and by that I mean I had no fucking reason to be sad about people I only saw on my/theirs birthdays, where we pretended to care for each other and traded clothes.

People expect you to care about your relatives JUST because they're your relatives. Fuck you. I don't even know the names of those guys. Did we ever spend important moments together? Supported each other? No, so shut up. I can see why someone who grew up close to his family and have great memories with them would be sad, but that's not everyone's case.

On the matter of specifically your parents, I'd also say you're not obligated to love anyone just because they decided to put a human out of the wife's vagina and it happened to be you, but you usually grow attached to them anyway. It's instinct. I don't blame anyone for being sad at the death of his parents, but I don't think there should be so much expectancy of everyone loving the guy who spitted him out of his dick.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:41:45 2012 No.8671240 If the kid doesn't care then why did he make the thread in the first place?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:46:45 2012 No.8671260 I never go to funerals because I'm prone to uncontrollable laughter in the worst situations. I was rolling on the floor back in elementary school when our teacher told us that a classmate had been electrocuted when playing with a kite.

tripfiend !Y8SckMYezs Wed Mar 7 16:55:46 2012 No.8671294

>>8671240
Because he does. He's just trying to wall himself off from the feeling of loss by saying he doesn't.

If he truly didn't care he'd be playing PS3, or whatever the kids play nowadays, like nothing happened and not shitposting about it on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:59:46 2012 No.8671307 >>8671294 What if his day comprises of shitposting on /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:20:15 2012 No.8671397 >>8671294 What if he just genuinely feels that those who do suffer from this are morons and so he posted it here to rub it in their faces?

>>	naitoknaito Wed Mar 7 17:28:47 2012 No.8671431 File: 18 KB, 200x228, ransmirk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My condolences, go pay her respects anon, you can keep being edgy once it's done.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:43:40 2012 No.8671489 >>8671397 Then he's a piece of shit.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:04:06 2012 No.8671598
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i became a cripple a while ago but lately everything has seemed very flat and tedious, and it's tiresome when my family wants everything to get better, and feels bad that things have become like this.

maybe salvation is possible, but because they take life so seriously I'm not sure if they can ever be happy. right now I can't imagine any good end except ending their suffering--just for a moment I felt as though that everyone is on their own and to forget the self is the height of folly and the cause of much more suffering, so that it'd be fine if I disappeared and left them to their own devices.

/jp/ has its gensokyo, christians and the religious have their heavens, but I feel as though it might be much nicer to simply eradicate the conceited notion that my self exists outside of my consciousness in the minds of others--that is but a synthetic "I" formed from a incomplete sort of recollection of all of the previous "I"s made to seem continuous by connecting them in some sort of coherent fashion. and interpolating a future out of such a pitiful continuity of the self.

but that's just the sort of historical revisionism that people use everyday to keep their own sense of self, of others, of everything--but that isn't what is, that's just a sort of delusion which detracts from the sensations of living and interacting with new things within which something like freedom might be possible.

"I" am nothing but the sensations and consciousness and interconnectedness formed by my interactions. "I" cannot live on the reconstruction of the past or the portending of the future.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:08:36 2012 No.8671608 >>8668441 I can't believe someone actually refferencing Albert Camus on /jp/ Bravo monsieur

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:11:36 2012 No.8671616 >>8671608 The only serious question in life is whether to kill yourself or not.

>>	Tokiko Wed Mar 7 18:17:36 2012 No.8671631 I don't get why death depresses people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:20:37 2012 No.8671643 >>8671631 So dark and edgy.

>>	Tokiko Wed Mar 7 18:21:06 2012 No.8671646 >>8671643 Death is? But it's always here and it already has been. More like old and busted.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:23:06 2012 No.8671650 Seen alot of death In my life I cannot cry anymore. Most grotesque one must have been seeing a guys head run over by a IFV it just stops being "shocking" or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:23:36 2012 No.8671648 File: 17 KB, 266x400, Daniel+Johnston.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8671631

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:24:06 2012 No.8671657

I used to have this. Actually after i lost many that were close to me. I stopped feeling anything.

Then after a long time i lost one whom life i tried to rescue. He died and i didn't for my surprise, horror feel anything. Then on one day i tried to cry for him, to force the tears come out. It felt impossible and my stomach hurt. Then i started crying and couldn't stop tears flow ever since.

This thread is getting too emo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:24:36 2012 No.8671652 yeah man... now get on your knees and suck my cock dude.

>>	Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 18:24:36 2012 No.8671655 >>8671631 Oh, I agree with Tokiko. How strange.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:25:06 2012 No.8671659 >>8671032 I know what you mean. I'd rather die than have any of my friends here on /jp/ die.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:26:37 2012 No.8671664 >>8671646 Do you seriously not understand why somebody with, say, a terminal illness would be sad? In the slightest?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:28:06 2012 No.8671677 >>8671650 You know "a lot" is two words, not one, right? I'm sure it was just an honest mistake. Don't let it happen again.

Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 18:29:06 2012 No.8671680

>>8671664
"Dying" and "dead" are completely different.

Being in the state of "dying" is shitty because you still have an intact will, but there's nothing you can do about it. You suddenly have a great limitation hanging over you.

Being "dead" is no big deal, because you're no longer capable of things like unhappiness, boredom, or desire.

Tokiko Wed Mar 7 18:31:36 2012 No.8671689 [DELETED]

>>8671680
I think that the threat of dying only makes us more conscious of the limitations of mortal life and time. Despair felt is the realization that reality is conflicting with your dreams, hopes, and desires.

>>8671664
I almost died a few years ago, before I was diagnosed with diabetes mellitus, when I was going through a lot of stressful events in my life. I remember thinking, ``thank God, I can finally take a break." No sadness or longings for anything. Death is a release from life. Don't tell me that if you got a phone call saying you'd be dead on Friday that you'd spend the last days of your life crying and feeling sorry for yourself. And if I knew that I were going to die, I wouldn't want my friends and family being upset about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:34:37 2012 No.8671699 >>8671650 I did not know we had Iraqis on /jp/

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:35:06 2012 No.8671702 >>8671680 >>8671689 Just interlope, already.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:35:07 2012 No.8671708

>>8671680

>Being "dead" is no big deal, because you're no longer capable of things like unhappiness, boredom, or desire.

And that's precisely why it's a big deal. You'd have to have a great deal of autism not to realize why someone wouldn't want to be in this state, or why you wouldn't want it to happen to someone you actually care about.

Impersonal deaths shouldn't mean much though, I honestly don't think anyone actually gives as hit about 9/11 for example.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:35:36 2012 No.8671704 >>8671260 I have a tendency to smile when it's inappropriate. Not because I think the situation at hand is funny or amusing in anyway. It's just that the second I realize how bad it would be for me to smile, I suddenly smile uncontrollably.

>>	Tokiko Wed Mar 7 18:36:06 2012 No.8671712 >>8671702 > interlope How is talking about death and dying in a thread about death and dying wrong?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:40:36 2012 No.8671722 >>8671699 Not from Iraq. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War

Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Wed Mar 7 18:54:09 2012 No.8671768

>>8671708
>You'd have to have a great deal of autism not to realize why someone wouldn't want to be in this state, or why you wouldn't want it to happen to someone you actually care about.
I wouldn't mind being in that state if it came unexpectedly or at the end of a fulfilling life. I just don't want to have to think about and cope with such limitations in my prime. I feel the same about others--I didn't like seeing the man who raised me bedridden and dying, but I was relieved when he finally passed on.

This isn't autistic, just reasonable.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 19:15:15 2012 No.8671821

The only death I've seen is my grandpas. He was bed ridden with paralysis for over a year and his health deteriorated over the days. There were periods in which he would recover, and then he finally gave in. I was over at his place and by his side when it happened, didn't shock me as much and I probably was smiling. Well no one was "crying", I mean he was being a burden on the family after all, and he probably was happy that he'd died; he wasn't the type that liked to stay still. All that made me realize that I was in favor of Euthanasia.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:30:50 2012 No.8674871

>>8668389
>>8668442

These. Although I was in this strange mix of disbelief and apathy when I first heard about it (note:heard). When I first saw her body I bursted into tears and always did whenever I saw it again. In-between the funeral and finding out, I'd randomly come to the realization that she was really gone and cried.

And my mother and I weren't even that close. What the fuck are you doing on 4chan? I'd at least be comforting my family members, you sociopathic ass not being blogging about it on /jp/ of all places.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:47:50 2012 No.8674896 >>8674871 Are you sure you're not a normalfag? I'm finding that a surprising number of anons on /jp/ are normalfags. We're supposed to be different from the rest of humanity, aren't we? Otherwise, why would we feel the need to be shut-ins?

>>	Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Thu Mar 8 11:51:20 2012 No.8674900 >>8674896 It's good to know at least some /jp/ users see it my way. "Normalfag with social anxiety" seems to describe far too much of the /jp/ userbase.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:52:50 2012 No.8674901 >>8674896 I am a normalfag, I'm not even going to lie. This is my first time on /jp/ and all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 12:00:21 2012 No.8674910 >>8674900 And the thing is, we're not sociopaths. We still have emotions. We just see things differently.

Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Thu Mar 8 12:07:50 2012 No.8674922

>>8674910
I'm pretty sure a sociopath would never be on /jp/ in the first place. Emotions are sort of a basic requirement to enjoy "otaku culture." Sociopaths are more into thrill-seeking and manipulation, which you... really can't do on an imageboard.

Their entire attitude toward it is off, too. "Someone died, so you should be horribly saddened by it!" The fact that they actually reject a fellow /jp/ user over an "abnormal" emotional response is pretty telling.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 12:24:44 2012 No.8674944
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My great grandmother is going to die pretty soon. She's about 91. I don't feel that sad; It's not that I don't care, or that I don't love her, it's just that she's live a really long life, and if it goes on much longer, she will suffer. She's already starting to enter the early stages of dementia, having heart problems, etc.

So, I think my emotional position is quite normal. I feel bad whenever I wonder if she'll leave me anything. She's not rich or anything, but she is generous. She gave me a lot of college money, which makes me not want to fuck up in school.

In short, life is suffering, and I want my great grandmother to go peacefully.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 12:56:44 2012 No.8674992

>>8674922
I think it's possible to do it on an imageboard. It's just that the results wouldn't be nearly as interesting as they would be IRL. This is just the internet, after all.

Honestly, I feel like I'm in a bad shounen anime. This world is not black and white. In fact, the vast majority of humans (if not all of them) are some shade of gray. When humans grow up, they're supposed to be able to understand this. Arguments like the ones in this topic are just childish: "ooh, I don't like you so I think you're a darker shade of gray than me." It looks like nothing more than a contest to see who is better than who.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 13:17:46 2012 No.8675056 >>8674900 It's a real shame not everyone can be as psychotic as you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 13:41:50 2012 No.8675121 >>8668502 >for being new What's that's not a reason for you, newfag? Well, no one gives a shit. Boo fucking hoo. You're a terrible poster anyway, having a trip just makes it easier for me to filter you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 13:45:45 2012 No.8675125 This thread does have a purpose, btw. The OP wanted to know if what he felt was normal, and so we're discussing what's normal and what's not, and whether that has any bearing on whether it's right or wrong. Come on, guys. This should be obvious.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:39:48 2012 No.8675409
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>>8674944
>In short, life is suffering, and I want my great grandmother to go peacefully.

I cried when I heard such wise words. I already knew it was, but never thought to apply it to anyone but myself in the matter of family members dying. I'm so conceited.

Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Thu Mar 8 15:50:48 2012 No.8675460

>>8674992
I tend to see the world in black and white, too. It's just that these idiots, who would judge others according to how well they conform to the norm, are black as the night.

That's why I came to like /jp/ in the first place. I saw a subculture which was willing to reject the things I hate so much... To think this was the extent of that.

>>	Mima !!yJNM6RUEk7R Thu Mar 8 16:48:47 2012 No.8675723 >>8675460 Exactly. People who say things like that tend to be hypocritical. Myself included, since there are some people I can't stand.

Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Thu Mar 8 16:58:20 2012 No.8675767

>>8675723
Oh? How are you hypocritical about it?

There are plenty of people I can't stand, but I don't just let it sit at emotion. If I'm going to hate someone, I have to analyze them to make sure my hatred is logically consistent.

I'm a very emotional person, but that's why I understand the importance of not being consumed by emotion. Emotion exists to help guide us to happiness, but it's just a rough idea... You can't leave it on autopilot and expect it to work out. That's as true for hating others as it is for being sad about death.

Mima !!yJNM6RUEk7R Thu Mar 8 18:22:20 2012 No.8676148

>>8675767
Well, I talked about being childish and then I said:
>It looks like nothing more than a contest to see who is better than who.
So there's some hypocrisy even in my post there.

"Emotion exists to help guide us to happiness," is something I've never heard before. Wouldn't most people say that happiness itself is another emotion?

But yes, other than that I generally agree.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 18:33:20 2012 No.8676186 >>8675767 Actually, I'm willing to bet most emotions are used to guide us towards procreating, or punishing us for not doing so.

>>	Tokiko Thu Mar 8 18:34:50 2012 No.8676189 >>8675767 What's the point of hating someone?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 18:38:50 2012 No.8676205 >>8676189 Kills time on your journey to death. Really, hating someone is a powerful form of passion and motivation.

Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Thu Mar 8 18:52:50 2012 No.8676259

>>8676148
>Wouldn't most people say that happiness itself is another emotion?
Actually, not really. Traditionally, "happiness" has referred to an enduring mental state of general satisfaction, while the most strongly associated emotion is "joy." I know it sounds a bit pedantic, but still.

>>8676186
>I'm willing to bet most emotions are used to guide us towards procreating
You're not wrong, but you're overlooking something. For many people, successfully procreating, raising their children, and equipping them to succeed is the way to find happiness... their true goal.

Certainly, from an evolutionary perspective, this is the entire point of all life and everything that comes with it. However, it's a convenient coincidence that evolution has been able to provide a malleable framework of emotion rather than simply propel us forward on instinct. There are some who are willing and able to break the yoke of their origins, choosing other paths to their reward.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 18:59:20 2012 No.8676281 >>8676205 This.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 19:00:51 2012 No.8676289 >>8676259 I was simplifying it for the pleasure of having people fight about it, but in truth, I think evolutionary pyschology, and all pyschology, is complete and utter bullshit.

Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Thu Mar 8 19:02:50 2012 No.8676303

This is a separate post because it's not really the same subject.

>>8676189
The point >>8676205 made is fair, but I think there's more to it.

To achieve happiness, one's self must be at harmony with the world. It sounds pretentious, but it's a pretty simple concept--negative emotions are pretty much always a product of a person's environment, since they wouldn't willingly bring these things upon themselves.

Hatred is "a powerful form of passion and motivation," indeed. Like other negative emotions, it drives us to change the things which hinder our happiness. However, other negative emotions generally drive us to change our own behaviors or beliefs.. Hatred compels us to correct the world around us.

Most people today find it impossible to achieve happiness even if they take all the "right" steps. They just end up stuck with anxiety and depression. I'm sure most here are familiar with this.

Embracing hatred over things like "fear" and "sadness" drives you to change the world, bringing an otherwise impossible happiness into reach. In fact, being able to actively pursue the goal of lasting happiness is a temporary happiness in itself.

>>	Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Thu Mar 8 19:03:52 2012 No.8676310 >>8676289 Well, I think you're a bit of a fuckwit.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 19:14:53 2012 No.8676373

Maybe you just didn't like the person that died, or feel strongly for them.

I was 11 when my Great grandmother died. I didn't cry at all, I actually had to fake it I cried more over my little sister tearing up my rare yugioh cards.

When my other great grandmother died, my mom was in tears for weeks. I didn't feel much either even though I knew her very well. I did feel more sad over her though, maybe because I was older and saw her as the ideal classy lady.

My moms father died too, but I was actually glad. That guy was an asshole to everyone and took advantage of them.

My grandfather on my fathers side is very sickly now though. I saw him recently and he has parkinsons, and shakes every now and again, spends his days looking at the lake by his house, ad his face always looked droopy since I can remember.
just seeing him like that made me cry. If he died I wouldn't cry though, he'd be much better and calmer then.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 20:03:52 2012 No.8676673

>>8676303

Hatred seems to only be effective when its outwardly directed to a large degree, e.g., in people who have an unusually high self-regard and self-importance. I often find that my hatred for others is proportional to my hatred for myself as a human being insofar as I recognize myself as part of all humans.

It seems like one either needs an egotistically warped sense of reality ("i'm way better than everyone else") or at least have a certain degree of love for humanity that in order to function properly within society.

Can't manage either, so am fucked.

Mima !!yJNM6RUEk7R Thu Mar 8 20:12:22 2012 No.8676723

>>8676186
A possibility.
>>8676189
What's the point of anything?
I'm not saying that there's no point to anything, mind you. Just answering a question with a question.
>>8676205
There is something to be said for passion, true.
>>8676259
Hm... If you use that definition of happiness, it certainly does make sense.
>>8676673
Being arrogant is alright with me. I just try to keep it within moderation.

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Fuyuki Osari !!SD/qp/1lfGH Thu Mar 8 21:47:55 2012 No.8677206

>>8676673
>egotistically warped sense of reality ("i'm way better than everyone else")
Oh, you don't necessarily need to have an egotistically warped sense of reality... You just need to actually be way better than everyone else.

Yes, I am arrogant as all hell.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 22:01:25 2012 No.8677250 >>8668386 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 22:18:25 2012 No.8677329 >>8677206 >You just need to actually be way better than everyone else. not that anything like that is even possible. since you're on /jp/ you're an animu nerd, so you're automatically worse than most other people.

>>	Sakura !RAILgUnr8s Fri Mar 9 01:57:45 2012 No.8678225 >>8668519 There are few trip/namefriends I hate, and you are not one of them. But we were never "bros".

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 9 05:43:02 2012 No.8679061 bump

Anonymous Fri Mar 9 06:27:03 2012 No.8679138

>>8677206
As someone who is, or was, the actual friend of an arrogant person: Jesus fucking Christ. Are you people even aware of how grating you are? Do you even know your self-conceit poisons every god damn conversation it arises in? The arrogant honestly seem to be people who are just so damn stupid that they can't recognize their own flaws.

You got beaten in the game. It's okay to accept the lose. No, if you were better than me, you would have won instead of trying to find excuses for your failure. You're not perfect. And no one is unhappy about that but you. Please shut the fuck up.

No, I'm not angry, but I'm definitely frustrated anyone can be so fucking retarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 9 06:48:03 2012 No.8679171 When my parrot died I didn't cry but I felt really shitty. I wonder how I would react to some familiar human demise.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 9 08:42:44 2012 No.8679437 >>8679138 The arrogance is strong in this one. i.e., you sound fucking retarded, in case you don't realize it, kthx.

Mima !!yJNM6RUEk7R Fri Mar 9 13:49:39 2012 No.8680209

>>8679138
It's not like all arrogant people are idiots. For example, I still recognize that I'm far from perfect. I don't boast until I come to a situation where I earned it and feel secure in my victory. But despite that, I do feel that I'm superior to the vast majority of humanity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 9 13:54:10 2012 No.8680223 Oh man, this thread is still here... Why?

Anonymous Fri Mar 9 13:59:40 2012 No.8680228

>>8680223
People like being edgy I guess.

Also, every single person thinks they're of more value than the next, this is absolutely normal behaviour and the only people that don't think this are religious and insane people (though there is not much difference between the two).

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 9 14:00:39 2012 No.8680233 If you don't view yourself as superior to the rest of humanity there's something wrong with you.

>>	Mima !!yJNM6RUEk7R Fri Mar 9 14:16:09 2012 No.8680290 >>8680228 >>8680233 Hmmm, so you're not that different from me. How dark and edgy you two are.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 20:38:37 2014 No.8680295,1 >>8668451 Heh.

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