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Does /jp/ bother to learn how to write?

My professor told me that I have the ugliest writing ever and I should die.

>> No.8616488

Used to write kanji when I did anki reps but I stopped doing the reps so I stopped writing.

Pretty much can't speak / write for shit but I can read eroge

>> No.8616501

I have poor control over my hands, so I try not to write whenever possible.

>> No.8616510

>>8616488
I'm planning on taking the JLPT this year, so I'm studying by doing anki reps and rewriting the kanji in sentences/compounds over and over. How far did you get before you quit? I can read LNs and VNs and understand most of it without aid, but I haven't really gotten around to mastering jouyou kanji yet.

>> No.8616513

I haven't write for quite a while now. Though I think my writing looks nice.

>> No.8616521

>>8616510
Not that guy you're asking, but may I ask which JLPT level are you testing for?

>> No.8616524
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8616524

>My professor

Out, normie. Now.

>> No.8616533

>>8616521
I'm not sure yet, probably 1 or 2. I'm planning on mastering jouyou by this december (probably before). Grammar is not an issue. I'm a heritage speaker.

>> No.8616545

>>8616510
If you can actually understand dense prose, then I don't know how you can say you haven't mastered the kanji. Do you mean you don't have the ability to write them or something? Or do you want to just list off readings...?

>> No.8616554

I also write Japanese sometimes, but my Kana and Kanji look way uglier than yours OP.
I don't give a shit though. I just try to stroke them properly.

As long as I can read them, it's fine.

>> No.8616564

>>8616524
20 hours? What the fuck? You could rack that up with grocery shopping alone.

>> No.8616565
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8616565

Your handwriting is a lot better than most I've seen, OP. Your prof must have a pretty high standard.

I'm told my handwriting is pretty cutesy/girly for how quickly I write.

>> No.8616577

>>8616565
>巨根挟まりたい
挟まる means "to be squeezed", not "to squeeze". If you want to say "I want to be squeezed by dicks", then you need に.

>> No.8616582

What is a コレ?

Or do you just not know how to use kana?

>> No.8616587

>>8616582
Using コレ in katakana is quite common, though it's more often seen in quoted (spoken) speech.

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8616592

>>8616524
Sorry.
>>8616545
I can read more than I can write (just enough for LNs)
>>8616565
It's probably because I'm a heritage speaker, she expects japan-born-jap level neatness and stuff even though I went to american public school.
>>8616582
People use コレ all the time.

>> No.8616596

>>8616582
http://kotonoha.cc/no/156421

Some opinions on the subject, even if they're shitty and short

>> No.8616602

When I was taking classes I did, and my handwriting was pretty good, but I haven't written anything in Japanese for a couple years so I bet it sucks now and I'd be surprised if I could remember how to write even basic kanji.

>> No.8616606

>>8616587
Because kana in quoted text indicates it is spoken differently.

>>8616592
Not in faggot shit sentences they don't. Don't quote literature either, authors choose to do things differently for stylistic reasons, something you have no justification for.

>> No.8616616

>>8616592
機械?

>> No.8616618

意外にまともな日本語できててワロタ

>> No.8616613

My writing doesn't have anything special about it, I guess, since I don't write very fast.
There's few radicals I can write fast, but I don't write enough to get past the stage of mechanically adding strokes.
I'm not ever going to need to write a whole lot anyway, so whatever.

>> No.8616626

>>8616483
Can't write, can read on a 3rd/4th grade level.

>> No.8616636

>>8616618
伊達に四六時中エロゲーやってるんじゃないですよ

>> No.8616634

>>8616616
My attempt at it. Balancing kanji is hard.
>>8616606
>Not in faggot shit sentences they don't
What kid of sentences are non-faggot?
http://logsoku.com/thread/engawa.2ch.net/news4vip/1324465231/
http://surfdayz.jp/?p=1592

>>8616618
家の中では一応日本語で統一してたからねぇ、まぁそこそこ喋れるよ。漢字
は超苦手だけどｗ

>> No.8616644

>>8616634
Not the guy who called you a faggot but it's definitely not usual to just write it in katakana for no particular reason. Citing a few examples of it makes about as much sense as citing examples of people using "they're/there/their" improperly in English.

>> No.8616653

>>8616644
I never said it was proper, it's informal-fool-around writing. It's common on the internet.

>> No.8616665

>>8616653
I think people (myself included) are actually insecure about their language ability and so will find any reason to call others bad. I try to hold it in, though.

>> No.8616675

>>8616634
漢字を読むことはそれなりにできるの?

>> No.8616689

I used to know how to write, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

>> No.8616684

My handwriting is already horrible, so my Japanese handwriting is abysmal.
Nothing much to do since after practising and learning strokes orders, it's still left to your (poor) dexterity.

>> No.8616701

>>8616665
Actually it just irritates me when people act like hot shit when they can read/write Japanese.

So what? So can half of the board.

>> No.8616703

>>8616675
「それなり」の定義によるかなぁ。一応ラノベ程度なら（化物語とかハルヒ
）まぁ大体の内容は把握出来るよ。漢字力は良くて中学生並み、正直に言
えば今現在小学生並・・・分からない所はふりがなを使ったり送り仮名や
ら知ってる部分だけを使って元の単語を推測すれば意外といける。ガチ小説
の内容を完全に理解できるか否かなら「否」。

>> No.8616725

>>この気持ちいつは日本語。

>> No.8616732

>>8616701
>So can half of the board.
I acknowledge that, that's why I asked whether /jp/ also writes as well. It's a fairly useless skill if you only read, but I wanted to know how everyone else was studying.

>> No.8616770

>>8616732
I thought about trying this out. http://visualnovelaer.wordpress.com/2011/12/06/how-to-read-visual-novels-in-japanese-in-2-years-time
-step-by-step-guide-%E2%80%95-learn-to-read-through-vn-or-anime/

>> No.8616787

>>8616770
That looks pretty intense. Coincidentally, I'm doing the 20 kanji a day thing right now. It's hard to keep up the pace when I have other stuff going on, but I'm gonna try.

>> No.8616835

>>8616483
I'll give you a tip,

The smaller you make your handwriting, the neater it will look.

>> No.8616845

>>8616835
Yeah, I usually use a 0.3mm mechanical pencil for that reason. (and it's just nice two write with in general)

>> No.8616851

>>8616845
>nice two
Fuck. "to"

>> No.8616855

私も英語話せるようになりたいわ

>> No.8616869

>>8616703
ラノベなんてあんな崩れた日本語読めるなら大したものだと思うよ

>> No.8616910

Have any of you gotten past the native-language bias? Do you have to translate the Japanese into your native-language or English in your mind before you process it?

>> No.8616913

>>8616910
I've got pretty bad Japanese, but the Japanese I've got I know in Japanese, I don't need to translate it. Every word has a feeling to it, for me. Side note: are captcha getting more annoying?

>> No.8616914

I have just started learning japanese recently but I am a little burnt out on learning 20 (473 total) new kanji a day so I am wondering if I should just hold off on learning new ones for a while and focus on sentence structure and grammar. I haven't even started trying to learn sentence structure and grammar.

>> No.8616916

>>8616869
有難う。
でも、最終的には日本で就職するつもりだから完璧を目指さないとね。日本
語能力試験、漢検、公認会計士試験、あと多分お習字も（字が汚いと就職
もままならないらしいし）

>> No.8616918

流石

Really? No one uses the kanji for that

>> No.8616920

>>8616918
Some people do, some people don't. It's not necessary, though.

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>>8616592
Dude what's up with your quotation marks?

>> No.8616931

>>8616925
I'm sorry if my ugly writing offends you.

>> No.8616937

>>8616931
Your quotation marks are pointing outward instead of inward why?

>> No.8616951

>>8616937
I'm sorry, it's just the way I write them.

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>>8616483
Could you then post some example of what your professor feels is good writing? Maybe something by him/her.

Pic related, it's how your thread makes me feel. I know how I write and yours is supposed to be the ugliest an educator has seen in their life? Pic related.

>> No.8617120

I can read a decent amount but I can't write at all. And my english handwriting is much worse than yours.

>> No.8617165

>>8616770
Dear god, I just realized that was written by Aaeru.

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