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8565185 No.8565185 [Reply] [Original]

Welp, apparently moot isn't making a /vn/ now that you fucks talked him out of it.

GREAT FUCKING JOB YOU FUCKING ELITIST SHITS

GREAT JOB FORCING ME TO COME HERE, TO THIS HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE PLACE

I HATE YOU ALL

>> No.8565192

Suck my proverbial cock, dude.

PS: /vn/ would have been absolute shit

>> No.8565193

I don't remember that scene from Muv-Luv.

>> No.8565196

Yeah dude, let's make a board about a video game genre that barely anyone plays.

Even /rpg/ or /fps/ would be infinitely superior.

>> No.8565199

Look what you did, moot.

Please delete these threads!

>> No.8565201

Please mind your language on /jp/, there are children browsing this board.

>> No.8565205 [SPOILER] 
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8565205

Wish he'd responded about the NSFW board thing. Oh well...

>>8565185
Too bad VNs remain here all is fine.

>> No.8565206

Welp. I guess it's time to make a KS thread.

>> No.8565210

>>8565185
I love /jp/. I love the shitposters, they make this place so pleasant.

>> No.8565227

What's wrong with discussing your VNs here, OP? Nobody intrudes your threads.

>> No.8565238

/vn/ idea is terrible. It wouldn't last less than a week and would quickly turn into a dead board.

Changing /jp/ to /dg/ is a good idea, because that's what we discuss here - doujin games. Otaku culture description that's at the top for a while now is just awful.

>> No.8565240

>>8565192

It would still have been better than this place.

You cannot ever, ever, ever have discussion about translated VNs because you always get the three billion fuckers shitting all over it and redirecting you to /a/.

>>8565196

Die. You are a part of the problem.

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>>8565185
>VN threads not allowed since its vidya
>Shmups are allowed on /jp/ instead

Yeah nah your a cunt

>> No.8565277

>>8565240
>You cannot ever, ever, ever have discussion about translated VNs because you always get the three billion fuckers shitting all over it and redirecting you to /a/.
Why don't you try it?
The only threads that get shit on are the spoonfeeding ones.
Just don't be retarded and it should be fine

>> No.8565278

>>8565240

Then the problem that needs to be addressed isn't the board's content, it's the people screwing up the board in their attempts to limit what gets posted to what fits their idea of what belongs.

>> No.8565286

I basically just hang out on the VN General thread and even that's pretty damn slow. I doubt there's enough activity to keep a VN board afloat.

If it wasn't for the Touhou and shitposting evne this board would be down to like 4 pages

>> No.8565301

>>8565240
Why so angry?
Got told to google your own dl links? Cant make up on your own mind what game to play next? Cant japlocale?
Lurk more dumbshit.

>> No.8565302

>>8565286
It's too hard to imagine a /jp/ without 40% shitposting, 35% touhou and 40% "real" content.

>> No.8565306

>>8565265
Shmups have always been accepted here.

Stop greentexting improperly.

>> No.8565317

>>8565238
>>Otaku culture description that's at the top for a while now is just awful.

Moot literally said in the sticky that this board is for otaku culture related things.

Can't you guys just stop complaining and post those threads you want to see already?

>> No.8565320

>>8565278

And this is why the board is unsalvageable. You can't get rid of elitism.

Moot should just delete it and make another, functionally identical board.

>>8565301

Sometimes I want to discuss a translated game I've played recently. I can never do that.

>> No.8565329

>>8565286
There is enough people in these threads.
It's just there is a sort of mentality that actually discussing things is bad.

>> No.8565330

>>8565265
Fuck you stg and arcade games belong to us.

>> No.8565338

/vn/ would have gone down /vp/'s path for sure. Games get released what, four, five times a year? Not nearly enough new content to avoid people making memes and circlejerks and generals and reverse trolling and all kinds of shit until it's run into the ground so hard no one else will want to touch it with a ten foot pole.

protip: one or two guys saying your thread doesn't belong in /jp/ doesn't kill your thread, the lack of other pople posting does

>> No.8565342

>>8565320
>And this is why the board is unsalvageable. You can't get rid of elitism.
What? The moment we do get rid of it is when it becomes unsalvageable. Very much like /b/ and /v/ did.

I know you haven't been here long enough to know, but even /v/ used to have some degree of elitism to it. Now it's shit.

>> No.8565343

>>8565320
>Sometimes I want to discuss a translated game I've played recently. I can never do that.
Do you even try though?

>> No.8565356

>>8565329
You are not gonna be able to get the same people to play Tsukihime, FSN, Saya or Muv Luv years ago to type the same sentences and phrases that they did when the game came out.
You have no excuses if you cant finish them in 1sitting. Their total game time dont even hit 24hours most of the time.

>> No.8565369

>>8565329

This. Some people here actually LIKE the shitposting, it's ridiculous.

>>8565342

/v/ was always shit.

>>8565356

This might shock you, but many of the people on /jp/ only pretend to be truNEETs and actually have jobs.

>> No.8565375

so moot makes a sticky at some fucked hour, asks if dumping his shit here is ok, bunch of non-/jp/ shits suck moot cock and say yes and /jp/ gets shafted again

/jp/ truly is dead

>> No.8565388

>>8565369
Yeah I am one of them and even I was able to finish them in 1sitting during the weekend.

>> No.8565382

Making a VN board would have meant getting rid of /jp/. Too bad he didn't go for it. I for one would be satisfied by switching the board from SFW to NSFW, as it should have been all along.

>> No.8565384

>>8565369
/v/ used to be okay right when it was new. Threads would last days on the board without being pruned because activity on 4chan as a whole was much lower.

>> No.8565391

And you fuckers wonder why moot hardly visits you guys.

>> No.8565392

>>8565375
You can't improve a complete turd, but respect to moot for trying. You guys are complaining way too much.

>> No.8565394

What's wrong with having VNs and Doujins in the same board?
If anything it is nice, because lots of Doujin stuff are made relatively relevant to many popular VNs. Not to be speaking of Doujin VNs.

>> No.8565420

Which games would you want to discuss OP? I believe translated stuffs like Forest would be able to net you some decent discussion here. If it's MLA or MGQ or Majikoi, you would get better results in /a/ or /v/.
The rules of VN aren't that strictly enforced in the first place.

>> No.8565439

>>8565392
its the shit sucking little faggots like you that made /jp/ into a 'turd' in the first place

>> No.8565442

>>8565420

VNs aren't allowed in /a/ and /v/ now, moot says.

>> No.8565446

>>8565420
MLA has best results on /m/.

>> No.8565448
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8565448

i love anime alien

>> No.8565452

>>8565394
>What's wrong with having VNs and Doujins in the same board?
Nothing, I just wish they were both in /dg/ and change /jp/ into a nijiura because clearly this board has no chance in hell of ridding itself of shitposters anymore. Better to sanction it and move the actual discussion elsewhere.

>> No.8565460

>>8565439
You seem terribly frustrated.
Take it easy.

>> No.8565471

>>8565420
>>Forest
>>decent discussion here or anywhere

Nope.jpg

That's one of those games that barely anyone has finished. Just like 80% of the other translated VNs. /vn/ would have never worked for this reason.

>> No.8565494

>>8565471

Please just die. You, you personally, are part of the reason why /jp/ is so shitty.

>> No.8565506

>>8565471
Shut up Zunbar.

>> No.8565565

>>8565494
Care to list why?

But go ahead and start your thread about Canvas 2, Da Capo 2, Suika A.S. or whatever translated game you want to discuss then.

>> No.8565613
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8565613

>>8565320
>Moot should just delete it and make another, functionally identical board.
So we can tell you to go fuck yourself there?

>>8565446
The thing about Muv-Luv on /m/ is somehow (and I have no idea how) it's managed to wedge a hole for continuous generals that are sustained by the fact it's an ongoing franchise. So people are willing to have you talk about Alternative inbetween other things that aren't beaten to death. Occasionally the retarded kids try to turn it into POST YOUR REACTIONS LOL RAGE XD DESPAIR and make them shit for a while because holy shit who cares.

So ultimately /jp/ reasoning is pretty much proved.

>> No.8565692

>>8565338
There's like 20+ new VN's released per month.
They're in Japanese though.

>> No.8565939
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>>8565613
As someone who just read MLA I'm very grateful for /m/'s threads about it even if what I did is just post my reactions to every arc and plot twist I read. While I can imagine how annoying it must be to see the same thing over and over again for people who already read MLA a long time ago, but it's great to discuss something without the elitist faggots barging in with HURR we've been having the same threads every fucking day, get the fuck out everyone dies! DURR. That's why anons who just got into VN don't what to discuss them here.

>> No.8566010
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>>8565185
The only problem is that this board is SFW which sometimes obstructs some discussion. But really, VN threads don't even get trolled unless there's some translated discussion, because there aren't enough people talking about anything that anyone else knows for them to get trolled. A /vn/ board would be slower than a slow board on iichan in the middle of 2006.

>> No.8566144

>>8565939
The point is as long as you're going with the flow of the thread while posting reactions, everything is fine. When it turns into constant streams of screencaps and shit and takes over the thread it gets old very fast.

People bitch about not being able to talk about old anime on /a/ as well, but it all basically overlooks that humanity as a whole is compelled to see and play new things for the reason that they want to be able to share with everyone else. It's not just the reason people keep up with currently airing anime, but the reason normalfags play Call of Duty every year, watch TV shows every week, and go to movies when they come out as well, and it's not changing any time soon. It should be the natural expectation that it's easier to have conversations anywhere about things that are new, and any sort of "backlog" you should feel lucky to find someone else who wants to talk about it a given time.

Bitching about /jp/ not wanting to deal with forcing old shit is basically just being butthurt about being a newfag.

>> No.8566855

>>8565240
Well, now that they're not allowed to tell us to /a/ any more, we may as well just do it. Maybe if enough people start getting pissed at us moot will change his mind and make /vn/ after all.

>> No.8566934

>>8565939
Except none of this happen.
Your threads just get no replies. /jp/ is not a fast board unlike your precious /a/ or /m/.
Please stop twisting fact, you are just angry you are late to the party. Maybe if you stop going to party, going for 1night stand or stop fucking around you would have finish the game at the same time as everyone else.

>> No.8566949

Why would you guys talk moot out of doing that? Do you WANT a massive influx of /a/ and /v/ posters? I thought that was exactly the sort of thing that you guys always feared.

Even if /vn/ failed it would keep them out of here, you guys made a shitty decision. Though personally I think maybe the new blood will do us some good, I just know I'm going to get a good laugh out of how much some of you wind up regretting this.

>> No.8567145

>>8566934
No one is angry here. /a/ had shit VN threads. I just think that /jp/ threads will be even shittier. There must be a reason why most anons don't want to discuss shit here.

>> No.8567215

>>8567145
I think that as long as the displaced /a/ and /v/ anons stick around and keep the discussion going, it'll be just fine.

Of course, this is probably the opposite of what the rest of /jp/ wants, but fuck them, they had their chance to avoid it.

>> No.8567231

Can we have the bump limit for /jp/ raised to 500 and image limit raised to 250 now that all the /a/nons who read translated VNs and LNs will be coming in here and speeding up the threads?

>> No.8567244

>>8567231
If he refused to do it for /co/, I doubt he'll do it here.

>> No.8567278

>>8567244
He refused /a/ at first to, but then he gave in. There aren't that many anons on /a/ who read VN. So there won't be a sudden flood that will speed up the whole board. Faggots from /v/ won't even bother to come here at all.

>> No.8567280

>>8566855
>Maybe if enough people start getting pissed at us moot will change his mind and make /vn/ after all.
You really don't get it, do you. A /vn/ board can't work on 4chan.

>> No.8567297

>>8567280
Why not? Because it would be slow? I don't see a problem with a slow board.

>> No.8567300

>>8567145
>>8567215
Stick with your VN in the board that you like the most.
Lets be honest here, moderation are hardly enforced.
/a/ has touhous, vns, figs threads all the time.
Nothing wrong with overlap discussions.

>> No.8567322

>>8567297
People dont come to /jp/ to talk about VNs because of the speed and zero replies.
You dont see legit VN threads being infested by elitists.

>> No.8567354

>>8567322
But if all the /a/ and /v/ anons who played VNs did come over to /jp/ in one go they would get virtually as many replies as they would have in /a/. Only difference is they're sharing board space with the original /jp/ers which could cause friction, and that it wouldn't be as easy to get new people into VNs.

Oh, and I guess the migrants would have to learn how to use sage properly or something.

>> No.8567377

>>8567354
That or the rest of /jp/ would have to learn to give up its old habits because the migrants don't give a shit, as we've already seen with some things, greentext and reaction images for example.

>> No.8567400

>>8567377
> That or the rest of /jp/ would have to learn to give up its old habits because the migrants don't give a shit, as we've already seen with some things, greentext and reaction images for example.


In other words, just like what happened to the other boards?

Moot a shit.

>> No.8567425

>FORCING ME TO COME HERE
Force your own board to accept it.
You don't want to be here, we don't want you here.
Either go without talking about your shit VN's or talk about them in your own board.
/a/ and /v/ won't just stop talking about them altogether.
Fuck off.

>> No.8567432

>>8567400
>greentext
>reaction image
The only image they are getting out of me is Marisagetout.jpg.
I have already made 100copies of it for the next week.

>> No.8567436

>>8567297
It wouldn't be slow, it would be completely dead. You can't have a board centered around a medium that provides one new entry every couple of months because you have to wait for translations. There is no place for a /vn/ board for an english-only userbase.

>> No.8567437

>>8567425
The other boards DID accept it. Sure, there were a few shit disturbers, but they were just a very small minority, most people didn't mind, and the moderators had explicitly stated on both /a/ and /v/ that VNs were tolerated.

But moot did not give a shit, I guess.

>> No.8567452

So if /jp/ is otaku culture, trains go here.

>> No.8567495

>impying elitism is a bad thing

>> No.8567516

>>8567452

and... AIRSOFT/MILITARY GENERAL

>> No.8567537

>>8567495

And /v/ wonders why they're /b/2.0.

>> No.8567566

>>8567145
They're all newfags who can't handle the trolling.

>> No.8567568

>>8567495
Keeping standards of posting and discussion high is good.

Elitism is not.

>> No.8567597

>>8567437
So... Just do what you've always done. You seriously think moot will keep this charade up for more than a day or two?

>> No.8567598

>>8567568
Attempts to keep quality high have been branded as Elitism.

>> No.8567604

>>8567452
can i discuss about fap shit here since there are lot of masturbation tools from japan?

>> No.8567610

>>8567145
/a/nons don't want to discuss VNs here because the community is not to their liking.

But a community is made of its people. If all of the /a/ VN fandom got up and moved to /jp/ at once, they'd still have the same people to discuss them with. And they might speed up the board a bit.

>> No.8567612

>>8567568
>Keeping standards of posting and discussion high is good.

That's what elitism is all about, plebeian. Hostility to newcomers who have a conceited air of bravado around them is a tradition that's practically dead on 4chan nowadays.

>> No.8567615

>>8567604
We've been discussing masturbation methods here for years. Specifically onaholes or anal masturbation techniques, but if you want to talk about some other subject feel free.

>> No.8567616

>>8567452
And by that token, so do gunpla.

>> No.8567637

>>8567612
And that's perfectly justified.

But being hostile to newcomers who have done nothing wrong besides being new is not.

>> No.8567654

>>8567612
Act hostile, force newfags to lurk the fuck more, then they gradually learn how to be decent posters.

These days no one says lurk the fuck more, or happily gives 'sauce' and helps usher in more brain dead people who can't look things up for themselves.

>>8567637
What's the difference between a newcomer and a newfag? How do you tell the difference?

>> No.8567670

>>8565240

Watch what you say about ZUN!bar-sama, I'mma fuck your shit up.

>> No.8567689

>>8567637
>But being hostile to newcomers who have done nothing wrong besides being new is not.

That falls under "A conceited air of bravado". Just flame them, and if they're really such good posters, they'll learn their lesson, as I did. Or maybe not, seeing as how I'm posting in a shitty metathread.
>>8567654
>These days no one says lurk the fuck more, or happily gives 'sauce' and helps usher in more brain dead people who can't look things up for themselves.

stoopid eltiust detectd

>> No.8567701

>>8567637
>done nothing wrong
Unable to google.
Unable to make his own decisions.
Unable to survive unless being spoonfed.
Unable to operate a PC.
Unable to lurk the fuck more.

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8567702

I'm really pissed that no one tried to convince moot to delete /jp/

>> No.8567706
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>>8567598

/jp/ is full of shitposters of the worst kind. The only thing this board has accomplished was translating visual novels, which would have been admirable if they weren't generally shitty jobs that people with a much better grasp of Japanese and without such an unwarranted sense of self importance can and often do.

/jp/ posters are not even welcome outside of /jp/, there is a reason posting Touhou pictures became a bannable offense on /tg/.

>> No.8567736

>>8565394
/nd/
Visual Novels, Light Novels and Doujins. NSFW.
That would have been pretty cool.
Moving VN's to /jp/ will just make /v/ worse, /jp/ worse and everyone more angry.

>> No.8567737

>>8567701
These days they have saucenao and google image search. Life is far too easy.

You also constantly see idiots making the same mistake where they're not running programs in Japanese unicode or applocale.

>> No.8567743

>>8567706
>/jp/ is full of shitposters of the worst kind.
Sorry we got beaten by KS fags and /v/.

>> No.8567765

>>8567702
Everyone are tsundere for /jp/.

>> No.8567778

>>8567737
You call them "idiots", but these things are only obvious to most of us because we made the same exact mistakes a long time ago, or had it hammered into us by seeing others do it. To someone who is just getting into VNs, it isn't obvious at all. Should someone REALLY have to lurk here for days, or maybe even weeks (after all, it's not exactly every day that this shit is mentioned, to most of us it's not something we need to talk about very often) just to be able to get their VN working so that they can get on with their lives?

I'm not saying you, or I, or anybody really is obligated to help them, but I think that if they're just politely asking for help we can't hold it against them too much.

>> No.8567812

>>8567778
>Should someone REALLY have to lurk here for days

Yes, if they're too retarded to use google.

>> No.8567804

>>8565302

115% shitposting

>> No.8567805

>>8567778
Speak for yourself dumbshit.
I know how to read readme.txt.
I even somehow pirated Planetarian somehow by myself way back before 4chan was into VN.

>> No.8567827

>>8567805
If the information is presented in a readme, then that's different, and it is a case of the individual not making use of the information that has been clearly presented to them.

In this case they deserve no help, and are indeed idiots. But, it's not like every VN release puts this information in such an obvious place, either.

>> No.8567837

>>8567827
>But, it's not like every VN release puts this information in such an obvious place, either.

And...? What's so bad about them lurking or finding the information instead of having it spoonfed to them?

>> No.8567847

>>8567827
All translated VNs come with a readme.txt
Fucking name me a translated VN without one.

>> No.8567850

you people do understand that the hazing you're talking about only works if the people you're hazing care about your community, right?

the average /a/ or /v/ person doesn't give a shit about your posting standards. they are also louder than you, and they will outnumber you. i'm sure that you've already seen the symptoms of this, but now it's going to actually happen: you are going to be run out of your own board.

>> No.8567852

What about a VN from a western standpoint with western art, like the one i'm doing ? Should I talk about it here ?

>> No.8567859

>>8567850
> i'm sure that you've already seen the symptoms of this, but now it's going to actually happen: you are going to be run out of your own board.


That's why we need actual moderators.

>> No.8567863

>>8567778
Back when I made those same mistakes, I looked up the information as to not bother people about it. Nowadays, it takes only about twenty minutes at most from "I fucked literally everything up" to "everything is working perfectly" because there's so much information out there.

Hell, I'm new /a/ cancer and even I know not to bother people with this shit if it's easy to get yourself. Even if the asking is polite, the intent behind it is not.

>> No.8567865

>>8567837
It is unreasonable to expect them to simply sit around waiting for the answer to their question to magically appear.

And in that case it would usually be because somebody else has committed the very faux pas that they were trying to avoid. In which case what was even the point? Avoiding humiliating themselves anonymously so that somebody else could do it in their place?

>> No.8567866

>>8567778
The problem is that you cannot differentiate between first time posters, and returning idiots. If you treat both cases the same then you end up with the returning idiots constantly filling up /jp/ with easily answered questions.

>> No.8567869

>>8567850
It works.
Just look at how angry they all are that they didnt get their precious /vn/.

>> No.8567875

>>8567837
Lurking only works if people actually talk about the information for people to read. For every idiot you spoonfeed, you're helping many others who lurk.

>> No.8567883

>>8567852

My question is genuine, not sarcastic.

>> No.8567885

From the time of the sticky roughly 3 hours ago, only 40 threads of /jp/ remains.
Meanwhile, 120 shit threads have been posted in the last 3 hours. That kind of speed is just completely incomparable to usual /jp/.

120 threads since the sticky 3 hours ago. Amusingly enough, 38 of the 40 threads before that are still alive from before the sticky, were made 12 hours ago, and not 3 hours ago.
So in these last 3 hours people have effectively killed over 100 /jp/ threads. Over claiming that /jp/ is for Visual Novels, that is by no means news.

>> No.8567888

>>8567869
I wanted something similar to /vn/ because I didn't want to shit up your board and dilute your culture with me and my kind.

>> No.8567891

>>8567885
Blame the people that told moot that this was a better alternative to creating /vn/. You made your own beds as far as this is concerned.

>> No.8567887

>>8567865
They shouldn't just sit around waiting for the answer to appear, they should go fucking look for it themselves. That's the whole fucking point. The very first person to have a problem wasn't told to fuck off and look elsewhere because the answer wasn't out there. These people are very much not the first or second or even fiftieth person to show up with the same stupid shit.

>> No.8567899

>>8567869
yes, and now they're here, and we're having a discussion on how to indoctrinate them. it worked wonderfully.

>> No.8567900

>>8567885
It's just immature people trolling thanks to the recent sticky. It's unlikely to be something that will be sustained over time.

>> No.8567902

>>8567875
>For every idiot you spoonfeed, you're helping many others who lurk.

You're only helping them realize they don't have to lurk at all, and just shit up the place instead of using a god damn google search.

>> No.8567918

>>8567891
Nobody ever said, "please dump all visual novel discussion into /jp/, moot," they answered moot's question"are you okay with visual novels being posted here" the same way we would answer "are you okay with Touhou being posted here" literally the only fucking way you can answer that question is yes. It sounded like he was asking us to choose between the way things used to be and creating /vn/, not between creating /vn/ and having all 4chan's visual novel discussion routed here.

>> No.8567915

>>8567902
That's assuming they know what to search though. With the applocale example it's usually pretty obvious, because they have an error presented to them, but there are a lot of things that aren't so obvious until you know them.

>> No.8567919

>>8567875
I can't see how that's true. Spoonfeeding is providing a direct link to whatever they wanted, a translation patch, VN downloads or the name of the VN. You can't obtain any information on how you obtain that information from the answer.

>> No.8567929

>>8567915
Like...?
See
>>8567887

>> No.8567932

>>8567900
Well, I am an /a/ poster that used to spend a lot of time in their VN generals, and I fully intend to stick around here now.

>> No.8567947

>>8567932
But you'll be posting in the general thread. Not making hundreds of troll threads that kill legitimate discussion.

>> No.8567954

>>8567947
Yeah, true enough. I don't intend to troll or anything.

>> No.8567961

Blame the morons who thought we needed a change and spammed moot's inbox like autists. When has moot ever made a positive change to /jp/? He's basically just done what /a/ and /v/ told him to again.

>> No.8567985

>>8567961
We wanted a dedicated VN board (that possibly included light novels and/or doujin games) Nobody wanted this, besides maybe a few people on /v/ irritated with KS threads.

>> No.8568001

>>8567961
>moot makes a thread on /a/ and /jp/ but not on /v/

fuck you alright? fuck you. None of us asked for this

>> No.8568010

>>8567985
Ask for /dg/, get /v/ traffic directed to /jp/. さすがmoot。

>> No.8568052

>>8567932
>Well, I am an /a/ poster

That explains why you love spoonfeeding so much. Fuck right off.

>> No.8568065

>>8568052
As far as I can tell, /a/ hates spoonfeeding at least as much as /jp/.

>> No.8568079

>>8568052

May I ask why people on this board are so hostile?

>> No.8568094

>>8568065
No, his opinion is that of the majority on /a/ nowadays.
>>8568079
>May I ask why people on this board are so hostile?

That same question used to be asked of /a/.

>> No.8568108

>>8568094
I take it you haven't looked at the responses to an /a/ recommendation or source request lately.

>> No.8568112

>>8568010

>さすがmoot

lmao get a load of this weabo fag

>> No.8568128

>>8568065
Really? Ever since the split all I've seen is them happily spoonfeeding people 'sauce'.

>>8568079
I personally am only acting as I did on /a/ back before the split.

>> No.8568138

>>8568108
I take it YOU haven't looked at the responses to an /a/ recommendation or source request lately. Spoonfeeding galore in that shithole whenever I take a peek in there.

>> No.8568153

>>8568128
>>8568138
As someone who actually lurks /a/ instead of only taking a peek like you, I can say that ehat we get when people ask for sauce is loads of posts angrily telling them to fucking google it or boku no pico, or giving the sauce in Japanese. And at most one or two trolls who will actually give the sauce, which hardly qualifies as spoonfeeding galore.

>> No.8568157

>>8568079
Go look at /v/. Then take a good look at /a/ and then /jp/. /v/ has hardly any elitism at all and its complete shit, its worser than /b/ at this point, my board /a/ still has a few fragments of elitism left but we've managed to get rid of Accel, we've got a good mod (Kino-Mod) and the big 3 still aren't welcome there, /jp/ is pretty much the final level of elitism, but elitism is powerless if the majority here just came from /v/ so I guess its /jp/s job to convert you guys.

tl;dr To scare off new people.

>> No.8568183

>>8568153
Give me a single example of what you're talking about. The archive begs to differ with your claims.

>> No.8568198

>>8568108
I have actually.
You get a couple people posting Boku no Pico, Bible Black or some mix of them and the source itself (eg. Boku no Nichijou). Then after about half a dozen posts someone spoonfeeds the retard asking for source, when the title was in the filename the whole time.

>> No.8568218

>>8568157

Well, you should take care of some regulars too.>>8567702

>> No.8568264

believe it or not, there was a point in time where /v/ used to be elitist. it's where "your taste in games is shit" stems from, but the tidal wave of new users completely drowned out the old guard of people, and their self-imposed posting requirements went with them. this is not an uncommon phenomenon, and the same thing happens as often in real life as it does on the internet.

do you think your 'hostility' can prevent the mass influx of new users from drowning you out?

>> No.8568279

>>8568183
I cannot fucking be bothered to search the archive for every post with "boku no pico" in it and I'm sleepy enough as it is, I'm speaking from personal experience. Here's one of my tabs that's still open from before the thread died anyway.

http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/61349572

Very short thread, but the non-spoonfeeders outnumber that one spoonfeeder, who I swear is probably the same two or three people every time.

And can you in turn provide an actual spoonfeeding galore thread?

>> No.8568295

>>8568264
If the hostility is backed up with actual moderators and site owners who care about preserving the quality of discussion, yes, it can be stopped.

>> No.8568308

>>8568198
And? Your example illustrates that the vast majority of /a/ hates spoonfeeding as much as you do, with only a small minority who actually give the source.

>> No.8568323

>>8568308
Also most people who do give the source do it just to troll the anti-spoonfeeding people.

>> No.8568376

>>8568264
We actually can, unlike /v/ or /a/ the stuff we discuss here are pretty niche. There's not much incentive for new users to come here.

That's why we're hostile to entry level stuff like KS.

>> No.8568400

I'd say this whole thing is mostly Moot's fault and partly /jp/'s fault. It's partly /jp/'s fault for refusing a VN board, but it's mostly Moot's fault for not telling /jp/ that he was booting visual novels (and light novels in /a/) out of /a/ and /v/. If he were forward with that, I bet /jp/ would have asked Moot to keep things the same.

>> No.8568438

>>8568400
In other words, MISUNDERSTANDINGS

If /jp/ and /a/ combined forces to mass email moot about it maybe he'll get the message.

>> No.8568492

>>8568400
Some retards propse something stupid, and then start spamming shit when it's refused to them, and the whole thing is moot and /jp/'s fault?

Good one.

>> No.8568511

>>8568492
>Not Moot's fault

What

>> No.8568514

>>8568400
Blame /a/ for wanting a /vn/ in the first place.
It seems like they are not content with discussing their favorite VNs /jp/ or /a/.
What do those people want anyway? A dead board? why dont they just go to bun or tohno.

>> No.8568533

>>8568438

What is moot's e-mail anyway?

>>8568514
>Blame /a/ for wanting a /vn/ in the first place.

/a/ doesn't seem to mind VNs too much.
I thought /v/ was the one wanting a /vn/? Though I can't tell if those demanding one were the ones who scream "not vidya" every thread or the ones who wanted a place to talk about VN without having to deal with aforementioned spam and trolling.

>> No.8568548

>>8568514
I thought this was the VN board, there is plenty of VN discussion here. I am just going to ride out this new wave of idiocy, things will be back to normal in a month.

>> No.8568556

>>8568533
>What is moot's e-mail anyway?
....

>> No.8568568

>>8568533
Pretty sure it is /a/.
The /a/ thread was linked in one of the /jp/ thread.
What they all whine about
-BAWW /jp/ too elitist, I hate them
-BAWWW /v/ sucks, they only talk about KS
-BAWWW /a/ sucks, they keep telling me to go to /jp/
I am not sure why they feel that having 500/250 posts lime is not enough for them in /a/. /jp/ 300posts limit VN thread last for weeks.

>> No.8568595

You are literally retarded if you believe VNs aren't a part of /jp/, I thought it was a joke at first like the kids wanting a separate board for Touhou, but damn you /v/ subhumans must have been dropped on your head as kids. If you think you can't discuss VNs here maybe it has to do with the fact that you can't make a good post here even if your life depended on it.

>> No.8569254

>>8568568
But /a/ was always happy to have VNs on their board as long as they stuck to one thread at a time. Those who told them to fuck off to /jp/ were limited to one or two trolls or retards per thread. Case in point, /a/ has an active VN thread right now.

>> No.8569266

>>8569254
I just checked /v/, and... They have 300+ post generals going on as we speak.

Jesus christ moot, that was nothing at all that actually happened. Just some KStards shitposting this place up.

>> No.8569411

>>8569254
And it is fucking terrible. Just like the one on /v/. Pure pure shitposting garbage.

>> No.8569433

>>8569411

And why is it terrible? And don't say "because it's /a/" or "because they're discussing VNs I don't like".

>> No.8569439

why cant u discuss visual novels on jp
they're marketed towards otaku anyway

>> No.8569443

>>8569433

because it's /a and they're discussing VNs I don't like.

>> No.8569469

>>8569443
spoken like a true shitposter. at least you didn't have a logic lapse and muster out a delusion like yourself or others like you on /jp/ can manage to discuss anything better.

>> No.8569500

I can't believe no suggested moot to add a rule that says "Language discussion or 'translate this plz thx' threads" don't belong here.

>> No.8569504

Those non capitalize posts.
Come on, if you want to samefag please make it believable.

>> No.8569493

>>8565317
>Moot literally said in the sticky that this board is for otaku culture related things.
so i take it it's ok for a sports otaku to post about sports here.

or for a gun otaku to post about weapons.

or for a car otaku to talk about cars.

damn, this board's name is broad.

>> No.8569514

Nobody is forcing you OP.
We don't want you either, fuck off.

>> No.8569573

>>8569469

Nice. You can't explain why it's "fucking terrible" and "Pure pure shitposting garbage". Looks like I was right on the money, then.

>> No.8569599

>>8569504
Is everyone who uses capitalization the same person too according to that poorly function brain of yours? You ever notice moot doesn't capitalize his letters? You suspect it's moot samefagging in this thread?

Go take your medicine.

>> No.8569636

>>8569599
Someones a bit defensive~

>> No.8569627

>>8569469
>Shitposter for not enjoying people who discuss visual novels you don't like

The hypocrisy is hilarious. All i've seen since /v/ got here was ZOMG QUIT DISCUSSING BABBIES FIRST VISUAL NOVEL! I HATE YOU ALL!!!! /JP/ IS DEAD!

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