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8507698 No.8507698 [Reply] [Original]

Liking Okuu isn't that different from liking Cirno or Flandre. They all have gimmicky powers, and cliché and shallow personalities. The only real difference is that Subterranean Animism came out in 2008 while Embodiment of Scarlet Devil came out in 2002, making the former less of a target for new and inexperienced fans.

And this is while characters from Undefined Fantastic Object and Ten Desires are hated or shunned, simply because they're "too hard to understand". While in reality it's just that their powers are original and their backstories elaborate. The casts of the two later games are more popular in Japan than here, perhaps because a native japanese person has an advantage when it comes to knowing of and understanding the original historical events the characters are tied to. To like Okuu all you need to understand is that she's "a badass idiot who controls nuclear fusion".

While I like the setting and general story-line of Subterranean Animism, I'd like to point out, that not only including and post Mountain of Faith but perhaps in all of Windows era Touhou, Okuu is the least developed, least interesting and least intimidating villain. Not to mention her motive is the least elaborate and engaging of all.

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>>8507698
Okuu thread?

>> No.8507712

She is cute though. But that's every touhou

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>>8507707

Fine by me.

>> No.8507719

I would have sex with Okuu.

>> No.8507745

>>8507698
But that applies to every character!

Besides the main ones like Reimu and Yukari.

>> No.8507754

>>8507745
Elaborate? Don't just make statements like that without any explanation.

And what do you mean by "that"? I made several statements in my post.

>> No.8507763

>>8507698
>And this is while characters from Undefined Fantastic Object and Ten Desires are hated or shunned, simply because they're "too hard to understand". While in reality it's just that their powers are original and their backstories elaborate.
> The casts of the two later games are more popular in Japan than here

Sorry man, generalizing opinions and making things up in your character preference's favour isn't gonna help you at all. You should have considered that there are people around here that do check on these kinda things, like say, SA winning the japanese popularity contest against all other games' casts last year.

Maybe you're upset because you _think_ that your characters are hated by everyone in the west so you're taking it out on those whom you think everyone likes?

Oh and, Okuu is the only Touhou villain so far, besides Mima.

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No you cannot like this character because I said so. Stop that.

>> No.8507771

>>8507754
Every Touhou character is shallow as hell, you can only make inferences out of their basic actions and 99% of their popularity is based on things made up by fans like music videos and the like. The only exception being the main characters who do have enough screentime to define their entire personality and attributes.

In Okuu's case, she is liked because she's the only character to have actually acted the role of a world-destroying villain instead of just ''someone who is being mischevious out of personal gain'' like every other final boss in Touhou. That sadly has been almost erased and replaced with ''she's dumb lol'' in derivative works.

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What's your point OP? Why did you make this thread? Just to look down on Okuu?

>To like Okuu all you need to understand is that she's "a badass idiot who controls nuclear fusion".

That's has nothing to do with why I like her. Sorry, but you're wrong. You make Okuu sad OP.

>> No.8507782

>>8507763
I never made the statement that SA was more popular than TD and/or UFO. I said it was more popular in Japan than it is "here" = english speaking community.

And that contest was a popularity contest as much for artists as it was for characters. I admit that SA won, and I don't hate SA. I just think Okuu is terribly overrated.

>> No.8507787

>>8507782

And why would people care that you think that?

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>nuclear fusion
>power of the Sun
>gimmicky power

Shoujo, anta just went full baka.

>> No.8507794

>>8507771
Okuu "reason" for being a "world-destroying villain" isn't any more elaborate than any other reason for any other character in a Touhou game that has caused an incident, ever. It is, in fact, less so, because it doesn't directly relate to her character, her backstory the circumstances of her life. Compare to characters like Byakuren or Yuyuko, who all acted because of reasons very specific to them.

>> No.8507803

>>8507763

First, you should hear to this guy. Second:

>To like Okuu all you need to understand is that she's "a badass idiot who controls nuclear fusion".

I would agree if you had said something like "many people only like her because she's a badass with a Megaman cannon with the power of Dragon Ball explosions", but there's a limit to how many fans can be retards.
But even if we concluded she is overrated, we CAN'T say she doesn't have a backstory. You're almost saying ZUN purposely made a badass-only last boss just to attract people, even as I know that's not the case. Anyway, I'm also pretty sure you know all the japanese mythology behind her (the yatagarasu legends and all that), so I don't even know if you just accidentaly overlooked that or what.

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The stuff about TD you wrote seems to be correct. It's mostly the newer fans that dislike the TD cast and claim that they "don't fit into touhou" despite being a lot more eastern related than Utsuho.

I don't mind those that like her and don't act like morons though. Sadly this seems to be a minority excactly like with Cirno and Flandre. I thought Utsuho was an interesting character until everyone and their mother only wrote about her "LOL NUKE POWERZ XDDD" and other powerlevel bullshit.

>> No.8507805

>>8507787
Why would you care to make this post?
People hate on other Touhous all the time, but I'm not allowed to make a thread about how I don't like Okuu without getting low-blow answers like this?

>> No.8507808

I don't think you should base your characters opinion on youtube comments

>> No.8507813

>>8507808
Okuu is the most popular Touhou on /jp/, rather than anywhere else...

>> No.8507822

>>8507803
>But even if we concluded she is overrated, we CAN'T say she doesn't have a backstory.

What is her backstory, then? She devoured the Yatagarasu. Why? Because Kanako told her so. Other than that, we don't know anything about Okuu.

I know the mythology behind the Yatagarasu, and all the other references in Okuu's design. Nut I don't think that defines as a "backstory"...

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If only I could be so grossly incandescent.

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>>8507813
>the most popular Touhou on /jp
That's not
<--

>> No.8507848

>>8507844
best miko

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>> No.8507856

>>8507844

More like

>the most popular Touhou on /jp/ to be made fun of.

>> No.8507858

>>8507856
fuck you

>> No.8507866

>>8507848
I feel sorry for you.

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Okuu is the best because she is the strongest touhou character with atomic bomb powers. And she also has a kickass armcannon that can fire huge suns.

How can't you like that? Or is OP just angry that his characters aren't as good as Okuu?

>> No.8507872

>>8507867
typical Okuufag

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>> No.8507881

>>8507805

So you just had to make this thread just because some random retard in your favorite Touhou thread wrote

>Worst Touhou
?

So I guess we should all go take a shit inside Patchy's thread then after this is over just to level the playing field then since nobody ever says anything bad about her either?

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>>8507872
Typical frustrated neckbeard who likes unknown hipster characters and gets upset when someone likes a popular character.

>> No.8507892

>>8507872
>>8507867

Samefag.

Or >>8507867 is just trying to be ironic.

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>>8507856
>>8507866
you are as mad as her boobs are great

>> No.8507897

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ6weggF4_k

this is why I like okuu

>> No.8507898

>>8507881
Not really. I just wanted to state my opinion, and perhaps give a few people something to think about. Why does everyone get the idea that I'm just trying to get revenge?

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>>8507892
I'm not being ironic. What's wrong with liking Okuu? I won't stop liking her just because some neckbeard like OP is having a ragefit and has to make such a retarded "stop liking what I don't like" post.

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>>8507895

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>>8507903

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>>8507897
Good choice, I like O-Life's arrange the most myself those klaxons are great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8etTPYKnd4

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>>8507901
>I'm not being ironic
...are you serious?

>>8507872 here, i was being ironic thinking you where being ironic

>> No.8507914

>>8507901
Sorry, its just hard to believe you weren't being ironic after I -just- read these posts ITT.

>>8507802
>>8507803

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>> No.8507923

Why is the Okuu fanbase so good?

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>>8507698
>she's "a badass idiot who controls nuclear fusion".
who cares about that, i just like her tits

>> No.8507938

>>8507923
because
>>8507932
>>8507867
>>8507792
>>8507719

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>>8507932
Too lewd.

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Okuu doesn't know why she is so loved, but she just is. It's not worth thinking about too much.

>> No.8507967

Well, as you pointed out, "generic" or simple powers like controlling nuclear fusion attract more retards than the others, but that doesn't mean that Okuu is a bad character nor that all her fanbase is retarded. In fact, it's only outside of /jp/ that you see things like "OMG Flandre is so cool and insane she can destroy anything!" or "Cirno is such a baka lololol". Also, hardly anybody says that TD or UFO casts are bad or don't fit into touhou, and those who do are usually trolls.

>> No.8507968

Worst Touhous from left to right.

Cirno, Alice, Flandre, Remilia, Reisen, Okuu, Sakuya, Patchy, Yukari,

>> No.8507971

Flan >>>>> Cirno > Okuu

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>> No.8507977

>>8507968
The only one that actually belongs on your shitty list is Alice.
If it wasn't for that non nonsensical pairing with Marisa the fanon has a hard on for. She would be a fucking nobody.

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>>8507977
what did you say nigga?!

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>>8507977
If it wasn't for Alice's pairing with Marisa she would be much more liked on /jp/.

>> No.8507985

>>8507968
I really don't agree with Yukari being a shitty Touhou, but at least you put her last.

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>> No.8507995

>>8507982
If people didn't ship Marisa and Alice, Alice would be seen as much more open to other characters. Now most of what we have is full on hate between Alice and Patchy (when they shouldn't be that bad together), Alice jealous on Reimu, and Alice being
ridiculed by every one and there mother about how much of a "friendless loser shut-in" she is.

sage cause I'm not really contributing to the main topic.

>> No.8507997

No character is terrible because of the fanbase. Anyone claiming this is simply retarded and a secondary.

>> No.8507999

>>8507977
>non nonsensical

I agree completely, but you should ditch the double negative when a simple positive would suffice.

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>>8507698
>Okuu is the least developed

But that's not true. We have more canon information on Okuu that any other non-main character touhou. We know her motivations, where she got here power, her (very clear) relations to other characters, 12.3 expanded on her personality, and we now exactly what she is doing after her game. She is also one of the few characters to actually interact with characters of another game.

If UFO and TD are were so elaborate, explain Kogasa. Kyouko's power isn't that original. Neither she nor Yoshika have deep or elaborate backstories. Wow Seiga can pass through walls, how complicated and original. The power to manipulate Feng Shui? The power to listen to people's desires? Boring and already done.

Seriously OP, check yourself.

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>>8507995
Indeed but the Alice threads on /jp/ are nothing like that, nobody here interprets Alice the way fanon makes her out to be.

The main form of resentment towards Alice is due to MarisaxAlice shipping and because of the tsundere stuttering Alice. If neither of those existed /jp/ would probably like her a lot more.

>> No.8508010

>>8508007
OP here, I don't even know where to begin.
You're an idiot.

>We have more canon information on Okuu that any other non-main character touhou
OK

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>>8508010
Great argument.

>> No.8508016

>>8508014

I want to hug those hips.

>> No.8508024

>>8508014
OP here again. Okay, I agree, let's try something else. I never stated Okuu was a bad character simply because of her powers, but that's what you're doing.

For many characters in Touhou that are both older and newer, we know a lot of details about their lives, and how their actions and circumstances tie into why they appear in the game. I'm still waiting for someone to answer post >>8507822

It's nice how you brought up Seiga. She's a fine example of character who, even in her profile alone is well-developed. We know many details of the life she lived, we even know some of the life-changing decisions she made in life. Her power ties into the classic Chinese horror story her character is partially based on, and helps to generally build up a clear image of her "unpleasant" personality.

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>>8507698
>While in reality it's just that their powers are original and their backstories elaborate.

I would say ZUN started running out of ideas as the series progressed. As an example, (and in my humble opinion) most of the more beautiful songs are condensed within the earlier games.

There are a few jewels in the latter games, though. But almost the entirety of the OST from EoSD, PCB, IN was golden for me. Sadly, now I get to find truly amazing only like 2-3 songs per game.

And the same thing happened to the characters, in the earlier games I loved the totality of the cast, while now in the newer ones I only get to like a few, but with great affection.


>>8507932
Control Rod inserted in Fusion Reactor #1, proceeding with gooey coolant release.

>> No.8508027

>>8508007
>She is also one of the few characters to actually interact with characters of another game.

I hope you are just trolling. Nearly every stage3+ character had already more interaction with characters from other games than Utsuho.

>> No.8508034

>>8508027
Multiple real interactions, not just cameo's. She received her powers and moonlights for another household.

I will admit that stage 3+ characters tend to become semi-playable, but out of the non-playable ones, Okuu interacts alot.

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>>8507923
This thread sure is proving you wrong so far...

>> No.8508050

>>8508026
I agree that PCB OST is pretty much perfect, but not as much with IN and EoSD. IN is still very good though, but I like UFO and MoF OSTs a lot more than EoSD.

As for loving every single one of the characters in older games, why do doubt this?

>> No.8508056

>>8508038

I don't get it. >>8507923 is obviously being ironic. Does that mean you are disagreeing with his underlying statement, or trying to be counter-ironic?

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>>8508024
You're generalizing and using buzz words.
Seiga is "well-developed", "we know many details of the life she lived", "her power ties into her character".
The same could all be said of Okuu. We know she is the one of Satori's pets and her job was to regulate the fires of Hell. We also know that that was her power before she heard the voice of god (who turned out to be Kanako), and we know she is a little dumb as she misunderstood "fulfill the wishes of Hell and the above world" as "CONQUER THE WORLD". That is why she ate Yatagarasu.

The whole cast of SA is very well fleshed out, which is why it is incredibly popular in Japan and overseas.

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>>8508056
I'm autistic, I don't understand Irony. I'm tired as hell so I didn't get the fact he was being ironic

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>>8508034
So the whole book series are just small cameos for you?

While Okuu being mentioned in another game is "real interaction"?

I even like Utsuho but this was just so painfully stupid and ignorant.

>> No.8508072

I have enough love for all the touhous.

>> No.8508077

>>8508065
I didn't factor in the book series. But even then, we have Remilia and co. throwing big ass parties and that's it. The rest of the PCB cast interact with each other and break into the moon. I guess Yuyuko interacts with random bunnies. Yukari is definitely a main character and she does interact with a wide range of characters. Eientei is still pretty isolationist with literal cameos thrown about. The three fairies are the three fairies and were basically made to interact with the entire cast. And I have gotten around to Wild and Horny Hermit. Or whatever it was called.

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>>8508062
Saying the whole cast of SA is very well fleshed out is complete bollocks. Okuu is really the only one who is 'fleshed out' in the slighest, and when you compare her to all other stage 6 bosses she isn't really fleshed out at all.

If you're going to disregard the official manga you can throw Soku out of the window as well, because even ZUN said he felt that he went a bit too far in making it 'silly'.

>> No.8508096

>>8507822

Yes, we do. We know she's a hell raven who is in charge of keeping the former hell heated. She is Satori's pet, and she's a little dumb, since she's a bird and half of her brain is used to calculate the complicated formulas to perform nuclear fusion. She obtained her powers when Kanako influenced her to eat the Yataragasu, thus obtaining the power of the sun. She's best friends with Orin, who is also Satori's pet and works with her.

We will know more about her as soon as we get our hands on Symposium of Post-Mysticism.

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I was ambivalent towards Okuu until I played SA, and saw a few excellent pictures of her. Then I liked her a lot.

But since then, pretty much everything else (fans, all of her other appearances (fucking 12.3, fuck)) has conspired to remove that like of her, so... eh. She's okay.

>> No.8508195

>>8508184
>fans

This I don't get. What do the fans do besides just stay in her threads anyway?

>> No.8508208

>>8508062
We know some about how she lives, and what people she lives with. Do we know why she is one of Satori's pets? Do we know why she decided to accept Kanako's power? etc etc

In those terms, we do in fact know more about Seiga than we know about Okuu. We know why Seiga decided to leave her husband, we know why she decided to leave to Japan and change her name. We don't know as much about her daily life or her personality, but that's more a matter of time.

Anyway, this is what I mean when I say "developed".

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>>8508195
Less the fans and more of the fan interpretation of her, I guess. Can't stand Okuu stupidity ver., and that seems rather prevalent.

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>>8508217

From what I've seen, there's actually a good amount of people on /jp/ who see her in the same light as you do.

>> No.8508244

>>8508077
If you haven't even read all the official manga or books there are, why even make posts regarding what characters that "interact more"? Okuu appeared in two games, and interacted with the Moriyas and the player characters. How is this more than any other plot-related character? All the characters resident in the Myouren Temple at the end of UFO also interacted with the Moriyas, they helped them build the temple. Mamizou and Kyouko have appeared in Wild and Horned Hermit, and the Moriyas have all had several appearances there as well. Just who are you comparing Okuu to when you say she's had more interactions? She's gotten around more than anyone else from SA, but she's just average at best.

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>>8508244
Oh, and obviously no characters post MoF aside from perhaps the Moriyas themselves are comparable to most plot-related characters pre MoF when it comes to number of appearances.

Even Mystia has interacted with more people than Okuu, canonically, seeing as there are more characters to interact with in both PoFV than in Hisoutensoku.

>> No.8508263

>>8508254

It's not really fair to compare her to characters who have had a chance to have an appearance in the books. Everyone will eventually show up in the book at one point or another anyway.

>> No.8508281

>>8508263
True, and I'm not. Just making statements to show that Okuu really hasn't made that many more appearances over times compared to some others.

Okuu will surely get an appearance in the new book, alongside everyone else among the newer characters.

>> No.8508666

>>8507897

Why the hell can't I see this embedded? Anyway, best Nuclear Fusion remix right here.

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>> No.8508753
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its been a good 2 years with okuu so far ;_;

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More Okuu to love!

(Does anyone know if this doujin was ever uploaded?)

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>>8508783

Not that I know of, but have this newish giantess picture of her instead.

>> No.8508901

>>8508745
That's an awesome plushy !
Did you make it yourself ?

>> No.8508907

>>8508753

Are you the same guy that owns the Sakuya plushy and posted those awesome landscape pictures with her?

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kero

>> No.8509099

>>8508728
>>8508745
>>8508753
>>8509073

That's adorable... (´・ω・`)

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comfy as shit

>> No.8509140

>>8509107
>>8509073
Oh god, I only found out about this after it was long sold out.

>> No.8509147

>>8508728
>>8508745
Literally a better new years party than I had

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I was going to answer OP post but then I saw all that cute pics of Okuu and realized that there's no point.

>> No.8509308

>>8507968
Whole EoSD Cast except the worst of all that is Meiling.
Dman your tastes are shit.
Also I like Alice not because of her character but because of her themes.

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>>8509246
Cute pictures make everything better.

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>> No.8512527
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Actually, most characters who have backstories actually have it almost 100% taken from ancient Japanese mythology, like Seiga for example, not just the whole character reference that is each character.

>Do we know why she is one of Satori's pets? Do we know why she decided to accept Kanako's power?

We do, if you read the manual, you'd know that after she ''awoke from a long sleep'', she found out that Chireiden had appeared where the old hell was and she was taken in by Satori along with Orin, whom she was friends with, and every other random animal youkai in the surroundings. As for the power, she stated it herself, she wanted the Old Hell to return so she was planning to settle in the surface by burning everything and everyone, however she didn't want to do this right away, according to Orin, she started experimenting and slowly became more and more insane and powerhungry until SA happened.

Now OP, I do not see what point there is to attempt to convince people that liking a certain character is shallow, is it because it upsets you how others see her? Because that's where ''everyone else does hate posts why can't I do it'' comes from, some people dislike when fans try to mix in fanon with canon or just confuse them, this happens quite often in Keine threads, but nowhere does it go as far as ''making threads for the purpose of lowering a character's status''.

>> No.8512532

Cont.

While it's true that Okuu does not have as much shown interaction as other characters, she is popular in Japan, more so than in the west even. The Pixiv contest was more of an evidence than the mere click-and-vote popularity contest that happens every year around February, since it shows both dedication to a game to the point of making derivative works and popularity with the public, since the number of views' were the ''points''.

Also, please do not make such blatant comments such as Okuu being the ''least developed'' or that your characters are ''hated by the west and loved the east'', it only goes to show the obvious factor that you're somehow annoyed by your preferences not being accepted enough in your eyes and the need to lash out against others by making FALSE statements. Like say, Remilia has lots of appearances, yet we know more about Okuu's past than her or any character in EoSD and most characters in the later games, even when they have the advantage of being around for years and thus more chances of appearing in books.

I also don't see the focus on development when Touhou is a series known for its shallow characters and backstories copy pasted and adapted somewhat into modern times from ancient japanese tales that go further than a simple reference/homage.

Quite sad, indeed, OP.

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While all of /jp/ argues about everything, i'll just enjoy my Touhou.

>> No.8512602

>>8507802
>"LOL NUKE POWERZ XDDD"

I wish, 90% of her related content (be it derivative works or mere mentions) actually ignore all of that and replace it with the whole ''LOL BAKA XDD'' and just input any character actions or possibilities with just that.

Also OP, you might want to read the manuals, not only is Okuu the only real villain, but she has more backstory than popular characters such as Remilia and pretty much every other non-final boss and TD's last 3 characters, the latter which all have their stories taken from a specific ancient story instead of Okuu's original one.

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>>8510749
>Cute pictures make everything better.

Okuu makes everything better. For me.

>> No.8512618

>>8508184
But I've seen you in the Okuu threads, are you not?

>> No.8512623

>>8512616
>glasses
Jesus Christ how horrifying

>> No.8512652

Alice would be a nobody in the fans' eyes without her constant shipping with Marisa

Same with Keine's shipping with Mokou
Same with Meiling's with Sakuya.
Same with Ran's with Chen and the latter because of Bkub.
Same with Nitori's with Marisa.

>> No.8512675

OP here,
Just kidding, i've sucked about 200 dicks and I was tired and misdirected.

>> No.8512691
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A partially mech okuu is fine too

>> No.8512727

>>8507981

>Alice's forehead

Why am I masturbating so furiously?

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>>8512691

Okuu is already like the magical girl/mecha musume of Touhou. She probably even had a henshin scene. We just don't know about it yet.

>> No.8512736

But I like Murarsa

>> No.8512743

>>8512732
She kind of had one when Kanako gave her the yatagarasu powers, she even fainted after it.

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Why is Okuu so ridiculously gorgeous?

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>>8512768
because she is a miracle of the universe

>> No.8512893

>>8512768

She's basically the universal concept of beauty around the world: pale skin, long dark hair, not skinny or fat but shapely, with a big inviting smile

And I wish I could find more pictures of Alice's forehead

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>>8507977
>Alice a fucking nobody
nigga please, why do you think the doujin circle is named
TEAM SHANGHAI ALICE
ZUN has a huge hard on for Alice and she's been one of the most clearly beloved ones in many games and works and one of the few to survive the Windows massacre. It ranks up there with Raymoo, Aya and Sanae in ZUN's personal waifu harem, even if she's been a bit forgotten lately.
Disregarding Alice just shows how much of a tertiary you are.

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>>8512893

I like you. You really have a thing for understanding beauty.

>> No.8513175

>>8512895
Or, maybe he just likes Alice in Wonderland, you know, the whole character inspiration thing.

If we go by your thinking, Reimu is his wife since ZUN calls himself the Hakurei Kannushi. I want this to be true

>> No.8513678

I have to say, this has been an interesting discussion, but I'm gonna stick my two cents in whether you like it or not. Since my computer won't let me download Winrar or any .rar players, I can't play the Touhou games. But either way, I've figured out all the Touhou games's plots and characters except Ten Desires. I can't find a synopsis anywhere. And another thing is, neither in UFO not TD (As far as I know) were the final bosses plotting anything remotely evil, hell, Byakuren wanted to bring PEACE to Gensokyo. In all the others, however, the final bosses were doing something somewhat evil (Except maybe Shikieiki, that's to be debated) And ZUN doesn't give the characters particularly detailed personalities because you guys have to remember it is considered a "Fan-made shooter game" emphasis being on "Fan-made." ZUN wants this to be more of a community effort that anything, or at least that's how I see. That's my two cents, and you're welcome to agree or disagree with me.

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Worst design
Worst boss theme
Worst fanbase
Worst gimmick
Worst hair accessory
Worst hair color
Worst pants
Worst danmaku
Worst boss from the worst game
Worst Touhou

>> No.8513733

>>8513698

clearly a troll

>> No.8513741

>>8513733

YOU DON'T SAY

>> No.8513829

>>8513678
Since you haven't played any of the games, seen any of the endings nor have you probably read any of the official manga or what zun has written in other works of his, I highly disagree. Play the games, read the offical mangas like SSIB and other works. A filthy secondary like you has no reason to voice an uneducated opinion, your opinion on this matter would be pretty much like me giving advice to people on how to score at bars.

>> No.8514180

>>8513678
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires/Story
Well, sure is hard to find out about Ten Desires' plot.

And what the fuck do you mean your computer "won't let your download Winrar? You're using your work's computer, dude? There's no computer so bad it can't run Winrar.

>> No.8514513

>>8512532
I really hope you are not falsely assuming that having a back story means the character is fleshed out. Check out the main character's Reimu's back story, what do you know about her? You know she is a shrine maiden, she lives in a shrine, animals like her, her personality, and she has genji as a pet. But, you do not know her back story. For instance, why is she alone, who is the Hakurei shrine god, and other relevant information. Yet, I hope you would not argue that Reimu is not one of the most developed characters in Touhou.

As for Okuu, she doesn't have much of a story, so you may have to wait for Symposium of Post Mysticism. The stuff is mentioned is hardly what I would call a back story.

She also only appeared once or twice in the mangas and in none of those appearances did it develop her.

>> No.8514525

>>8514513
>The stuff is mentioned is hardly what I would call a back story.

It perfectly presents her origin, surroundings, character and motivation, what more do you need? A novel-length book about her past?

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>>8514513
Personally I think what makes a character fleshed out more than anything is their interactions with other characters and subsequently their personality and habits that we find out.

>>8514525
As do most stage 6 bosses, Utsuho isn't anything special when it comes to her having a brief summary of her past.

>> No.8514558

WAIT
WAIT
WAIT
WAIT......

Since fucking when did someone need /jp/ to allow liking of a certain girl?

I like who I like!
And you can fuck off with all these troll posts!
...and my favorite girl isn't even Okuu....

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All you niggas posting in a troll thread

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This is why I like Okuu. She's a hard worker. Just look at how many eggs she laid just for my breakfast. Mmmmmm.

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>> No.8514957

>>8514513
You seem to be thinking that people are trying to make Okuu ''better'' than others in terms of development, that's just being overly defensive. The only thing trying to be done is show the fact that she does have a backstory and does have interaction with other Touhous but not as much as previous Touhous since, you know, she came out after the big encyclopedia books and first fighting games yet you still try to mention older characters as a fair comparison? Boggling argument you have there.

I also do not see the reason of ''she's not as developed as X, liking her means you have shallow taste'', it clearly shows you are desperate to get a hate argument across to the point of making silly assumptions. Look at Momiji, she has zero personality, zero dialogue, and only appeared onscreen for 20 seconds in one game and never mentioned again until her obligatory appearance in DS, yet she still ranked as the 3rd most popular Touhou in a recent popularity contest.

>>8514545
>Utsuho isn't anything special

Nobody said she was, we're just defending the fact that she does have development.

>As do most stage 6 bosses

Only Yuyuko, Kaguya, Byakuren and Miko do.

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>>8514957
Like I said I don't really believe her brief backstory counts as development but she is by no means the least developed character at all like OP claims. Though I completely agree to the fact you can't compare her to the older characters who have had more time to appear in other works. But at the same time you can't compare someone like Utsuho to stage 3 characters like some people are, of course she is going to have more development than them being the primary antagonist of SA.

>Nobody said she was, we're just defending the fact that she does have development.

I was refering to some of the blind fanboyism in this thread towards her, they're just as bad as the OP. Defending the fact she does have some development is fine but don't claim to say she is the most developed character there is.

>> No.8515956
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I have nothing to do today except post Utsuho.

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Utsuho looks pretty damn developed to me.

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>>8515956
Sounds like a good plan.

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Okuu is the cutest!

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>>8516002
She sure is!

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>>8515956
Sounds like a good plan.

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My first and only Daki. She's so silky smooth and squishy~

Easily substitutes a comforter blanket altogether.

>> No.8516160

>>8507698
I don't know, Cirno and Flandre look much younger than her and she got her powers from a god, for me this made her more interesting and intimidating than the other two. Also your post looks more like an empty copypasta but I will try to ignore it and enjoy the thread.

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I would be Okuu's spotter.

>> No.8516826

>not gimicky
HELLS ARTICIFIAL SUN

>> No.8516839

>>8516816
>have the power of NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED
>use a sniper rifle instead

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>>8516137
Good choice on that okuu dakimakura.

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>> No.8518027

>>8515097
>she is the most developed character there is.

Eh? That wasn't quite mentioned, it was only in the amount of backstory compared to big characters like Remilia and even Reimu.

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>>8518027
It wasn't quite said to that extent but that's how a lot of peoples attitude came over to me, I'm probably just misinterpreting people attitude though.

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Good morning sunshine~

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Utsubump

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OH GOD OKUU IS HOT

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>> No.8521679 [DELETED] 

Grade A mofu mofu

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Grade A mofu mofu

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>People talking bad about any Touhou
This kinda stuff makes me sick.

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 く
  う
   ち
    ゃ
     ん
      か
       わ
        い
         い 

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>>8521745
So cute~

>> No.8521864 [SPOILER] 
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What is she hiding inside that armcannon?

>> No.8521888
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Silly anon, you can't hug a waifu with nuclear arms.

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>>8521888

You don't hug Okuu. She hug you.

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>>8521864
>>8521897
No.

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>> No.8522229

>>8507968
Also the most popular, haters gonna hate, rite?

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How does one woo a hell raven?

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>>8522251
Eggs.

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>>8522260

I was thinking something more along the lines of shiny objects.

>> No.8522278

I would give her a hug, but I would die from radiation poisoning.

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>>8522279
Expressing your true love would be the best way though.

>> No.8522412

>>8522335
wouldn't that require me knowing her true name?

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>>8522412
Revealing your true name to people will give other masters an advantage in the holy grail war though.

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>>8522335

It worked!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTJ2y-y3wIY

I'M POSTING OKUULELE AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME

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>>8522536
Those wings look so soft and fluffy, I want to be hugged by them.

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>>8522536

I for one welcome our new egg overlord.

>> No.8523885

I like Okuu because of her cape.

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>>8523885
It's impossible not to like the space cape.

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>>8525381

Would you?

>> No.8525422 [DELETED] 

I want to shit on Okuu, no matter what.

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>>8525398
Would I what? Steal the space cape? I'd rather snuggle with her underneath it. I'd probably steal the space cape afterwards though.

>> No.8525678

many people think okuu is spanish
O_______________________o
Unyuuuuuuuuu

>> No.8525715
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Okuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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I wonder how some artists get so many people to recolor their drawings of her.

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>>8526804
by drawing good drawings?

>> No.8529040
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>>8529016
That would make sense.

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>> No.8530243
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Don't overfeed your Okuu. She'll get chubby.

>> No.8531203
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A flustered Okuu is cute too

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Hibiki Ganaha from Dream C Club RIP ;_;

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>>8531203

Would she get flustered easily?

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>>8531478
Who knows...?

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>> No.8534595
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Sweaters~

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>>8534595

Exposed shoulders are a very nice touch.

>> No.8534720

>>8507771
>every touhou character is shallow as hell
But that's wrong. Take Imperishable Night's last boss, for example. ZUN used the beautiful Japanese story 'Story of the Bamboo Cutter', also known as 'Kaguya-Hime'. In this game, he made several changes to Kaguya that stayed consistent with the original story. In the original story, Kaguya fled to the moon after leaving the elixir of immortality to the emperor. ZUN added to that and made her a refuge who ran from the moon shortly afterwords due to the lunar war. Eirin too, has quite a bit of development despite being Kaguya's accomplice. Eirin has her murderous way with more innocent people than fandom seems to let into. ZUN took it even further with Mokou. He used the dangling elixir of immortality left on Earth to make her own arc that he revealed in the fourth chapter of CiaLR.
If all Touhou characters are shallow, ZUN wouldn't have done any of that. Maybe fandom is that shallow, maybe characters in other games are shallow, but that gives ZUN more the reason to make characters in his games that aren't shallow even more. Because like he said before, he made Touhou because he couldn't find games that he liked, so he made his own.

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Made a quick userstyle that is very obtrusive.

Stick this in stylish as a new userstyle and you'll get a little okuu in the corner.
Not sure how this'll work with smaller resolutions I only tested on my 1680x1050.

@-moz-document domain(boards.4chan.org), domain(rs.4chan.org) {

html,body {
background: url(http://i54.tinypic.com/122m0yh.jpg)) bottom right no-repeat #eef2fe fixed !important;
}

}

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>>8534752
urgh, I hate 4chan X new quick reply.

>> No.8535090
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I like Okuu because her theme is my favorite.

I like Yuuka because her fanon depictions are badass and her theme songs are badass.

I like Kanako because her theme is cool and she fights while sitting in the air.

Am I doing it wrong?

>> No.8535106

>>8535090
Your opinions are all wrong and shit.
Mine are the only rght ones

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Is this too lewd?

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>>8535463
Yes

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>>8535008
The only issue I have is the removal of the post form at the top but you can fix that in the options.

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If Okuu greeted me for the first time like this I don't think my heart would survive.

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>>8535825
Few would

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>>8540363

Utsuho Reiuji

Abilities Manipulation of heart integrity

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>>8540363

Utsuho Reiuji

Abilities: Manipulation of heart integrity

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