>"He drinks tea made from teabags"

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Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:48:16 2011 No.8307145 [Reply] [Original]

>"He drinks tea made from teabags"

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:53:15 2011 No.8307166 File: 318 KB, 550x715, 1324699623338.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't drink tea at all just semen

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:59:16 2011 No.8307180 I'm sorry Remi. I take what I can afford. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:59:45 2011 No.8307184 Tea isn't a tasty drink nor is it something I would willingly consume. It is bitter, tastes like play-doh, and has caffeine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:59:45 2011 No.8307183 >>8307145 It's nothing to get enraged over. Just pity the poor soul and move on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:01:15 2011 No.8307186 >>8307184 Tea should not be bitter. That's a problem on your end. Either you're mistaking bitterness for astringency or are brewing it improperly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:01:45 2011 No.8307187 >>8307184 Red tea and herbal tea are caffeine free. Red tea is often very sweet, as well. I got some nice apple and peach teas for Christmas and I've been enjoying them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:02:15 2011 No.8307192 Tea? Is that some kind of soda?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:02:45 2011 No.8307191 >>8307166 >Not mixing your semen with tea

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:06:16 2011 No.8307204 Tea threads when /a/ is raiding.... Oh well, I'm going to brew a pot of taiping houkui and play stalker while waiting for this to pass. Stay dry /jp/.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:06:45 2011 No.8307202

>>8307186
You boil water and put in tea, what is the big deal? Bitter is bitter, there is no way around it no matter how much sugar and milk you but in.

>>8307187
I would rather just drink fruit juice than deal with tea and herbal teas taste like imodium to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:08:16 2011 No.8307218 What do tea-experts say on the use of sugar? I can't drink tea if it doesn't have at least a teaspoon of sugar in it

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:08:16 2011 No.8307219 >>8307202 >there is no way around it no matter how much sugar and milk you but in. You are definetly doing something wrong, are you using good water? I know that hard water can completely ruin the taste of tea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:10:46 2011 No.8307229 >>8307219 My tap water is riddled with limestone (calcite) and lithium. Could that be the problem?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:12:45 2011 No.8307238 >>8307229 Yes. That is what is known as hard water.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:13:15 2011 No.8307246 >>8307204 The funny thing is, /jp/ is a lot better now because of this.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:13:46 2011 No.8307243

>>8307218
I refuse to drink my tea with anything in it at all. I don't hold it against people who do enjoy it though, I hear demerara sugar is best suited to the task.

>>8307229
Yes, if your tapwater is that bad you'll need to use mineral water as most bottled water is made through reverse osmosis and lacks a suitable mineral content to provide any meaningful flavor. I know it sounds snobbish, but that's how it is. I suppose you could try treating your tap water, but that could be just as costly and a much larger hassle.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:15:58 2011 No.8307256

>>8307202
Different teas need different temperatures. Generally speaking, the only teas that should be brewed with boiling water are blacks and darker, and herbals. Oolongs are brewed around 195F, greens and whites are brewed around 175, gyokuro is brewed at around 140.

The darker the tea, the longer the steeping, usually. For instance, some greens only need to be steeped for one minute otherwise they will become bitter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:16:59 2011 No.8307257 >>8307238 Yes, our water is considered hard. Leave a hose running for an hour and wait for everything to dry; you will see a white film. So hard water kills the taste of tea?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:17:59 2011 No.8307263 I use both bags and loose tea. Both are perfectly fine. Incidentally I went out and bought a few bags last week, because I'm visiting my tea-less folks and loose isn't worth the bother. Vanilla and blueberry, very fine.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:17:59 2011 No.8307265

Funny that someone is complaining about the taste of tea being bitter, that's the reason I like it.
I like sweet things once in a while but drinking sugary drinks like juice and soda all the time gets old fast.

Earl Gray Black
No milk
No sugar
Over brewed
FinalDestination.tiff

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:18:26 2011 No.8307267 >>8307218 Straight tea is somewhat of an acquired taste for those used to sugary drinks and store-bought canned teas. I'm trying to ween myself off of it, because I know I'm only cheapening the flavor when I put in a packet of Splenda.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:18:57 2011 No.8307269 File: 262 KB, 676x704, Godot_likes_coffee_by_one2hit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >drinking tea at all

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:18:57 2011 No.8307270 >>8307257 Not that guy, but it does change the flavor to be worse than it should be. I have very hard water as well and I use spring water.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:19:26 2011 No.8307273

>>8307257
Tea at it's core is an infusion, taking minerals from the leaves and moving them over to the water. Anything already in the water will effect the taste of the tea, as will anything you add to it.

So yes, hard water will greatly effect the taste of tea, and soft water will make it nearly tasteless. You want to find a good middle ground.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:21:56 2011 No.8307284 >>8307265 I started around that point, but have since moved on to formosa blacks and darker pu erhs. To each their own.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:22:27 2011 No.8307288 >>8307269 I tend to not like coffee straight. I like to mix it with things. Usually rum... About the only think I drink straight these days is Water and Beer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:22:56 2011 No.8307290 >>8307270 Bottled water is cheap enough for me, a 24 pack costs about 5 dollars. So would that be preferable? I bought so good (expensive) loose tea but I was disappointed with the end result.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:25:26 2011 No.8307297

>>8307290
See the earlier comment about reverse osmosis. Most bottled water is made as cheaply as possible and as such be very soft in taste (not that this is a bad thing for drinking water), which is abysmal for tea.

Some bottled waters are spring water, and do an alright job. Find a brand you like and stick with it. Try everything at your local stores.

If you have the money, get cheap drinking water, and then buy nice mineral water just for your tea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:26:58 2011 No.8307304 >>8307290 Buy a bottle of good water and try the tea with that. If you deem the difference worth it, then you'll know. I recommend the brand gerolsteiner. It does reasonably well for both greens and blacks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:27:58 2011 No.8307307 >>8307290 I don't want to say that it will end or help your tea troubles because I'm not 100% sure. It might just be a tea that you don't like. You can only say that you don't like a tea if you brew it properly, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:27:58 2011 No.8307308 >>8307304 Or move to a city like mine with glorious fucking tap water.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:29:58 2011 No.8307320 >>8307308 We don't all have the luxury. And bad tap seems a rather common problem in america so you could end up doing quite a bit of moving until you find something acceptable.

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Wed Dec 28 22:31:27 2011 No.8307329 >>8307145 Take that back or I will destroy you. >>8307243 Some teas are improved with milk, e.g. Assam. Most I drink straight though.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:31:27 2011 No.8307332

>>8307308
I live in midwest missouri, our tapwater isnt bad and makes great tea. I lived in New Mexico for a while. The tapwater was so bad, companies set up booths all over the city so you could fill up 5 gallon bottles quickly and easily. The water actually felt oily in your mouth and tasted like lead, sometimes butter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:32:57 2011 No.8307339 >>8307307 I think it is worst a shot, nothing wrong with trying to find something to enjoy. >>8307304 >>8307297 I will just buy one that doesn't have "purified" on the label.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:33:57 2011 No.8307344 >>8307332 I've pretty much got chlorine on tap, it tastes and smells very much like pool water. Though it has a very oily texture, and can sometimes be unreasonably bitter.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:35:58 2011 No.8307351

>>8307339
When I was on a tighter budget, I would only get mineral water for the first time I bought a tea to see whether or not it was worthwhile to buy it again. As someone else said, it may be the tea you don't like.

Good luck in your brewing though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:36:47 2011 No.8307356 >>8307344 >>8307332 That is what happens when you live in a desert that used to be at the bottom of the sea. At least that is my city's problem >>8307344 >worst a shot *worth a shot

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:40:17 2011 No.8307371 >>8307356 >>8307344 Here, I'm in the "lush and fertile" midwest. It's just the local water companies don't give a damn. I'm not too bothered by it, as even if it didn't taste this way it'd still be treated sewage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:41:47 2011 No.8307378 >>8307332 >companies set up booths all over the city so you could fill up 5 gallon bottles quickly and easily This isn't normal? We have those here as well as water and ice stores.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:50:46 2011 No.8307410

I have a osmosis something machine that cleans my water to almost pure water.
I made some tests on my, seriously my water is made of bones, it can even ruin a really strong coffee.
I don't know why... I'm living in a big city... is really offensive.
I know a local market who sells all types of different teas by weight... I should go there, buy some teas and learn how to make the tea the right way to become a proper husband for a Touhou.
They aren't bitter, at least the only ones bitter for sure are the green and white (from the ones I tasted).

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:52:46 2011 No.8307418

Thanks, /jp/, I just checked the quality of the top water on the website of my town and it seems that it's top-quality around here. Also, that one tip with the different temperatures was surely helpful, I'm a complete rookie after all and didn't know that. Is there anything else you need to know?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:53:18 2011 No.8307423 >>8307410 >my water is made of bones, it can even ruin a really strong coffee. Bloody hell.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:53:18 2011 No.8307424 File: 179 KB, 900x1200, InGensokyoMilkComesInBags.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8307145 Nope, but I do prefer to drink milk that comes in bags...

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Wed Dec 28 22:53:46 2011 No.8307426 >>8307410 >the only ones bitter for sure are the green and white (from the ones I tasted). You didn't make them correctly. Cooler than boiling, don't steep them as long as black.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:54:47 2011 No.8307429 File: 124 KB, 651x544, My town.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Haha, Our tap water comes form Kansas City.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:57:16 2011 No.8307441 File: 129 KB, 542x453, ba6d3b195dc373785eb771304cbdd69e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's wrong with bagged tea?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:58:16 2011 No.8307453 >>8307441 There is always one elitist higher than you. >2011 still drinking grass juice. >not just growing and eating your own grass.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:59:16 2011 No.8307454 >>8307429 >N/A: Honolulu Strange that it's in the Endangered column. It's perfectly drinkable. The only states I've been to are Hawaii and DC, and it's certainly a lot better tasting than DC's nasty toilet water.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:00:16 2011 No.8307460

>>8307418
There's tons of stuff to know, but most of it won't matter too much for someone starting out.

Do keep in mind, what you brew the tea (and too a far lesser extent what you drink it in) will also have a large impact on the taste of the resulting product. This is probably a more than you care about at this time, but it's something to keep in mind. No need to rush out and pick up a $300 yixing clay pot right off the bat.

Also, I disagree with the temperatures posted. But I don't brew mine "correctly" either so I won't comment further on it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:00:59 2011 No.8307462 >>8307429 What are those rankings for? My city is pretty high up there... is that good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:00:59 2011 No.8307464 >>8307462 water quality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:03:27 2011 No.8307473 >>8307429 I lived in Memphis and Portland, no wonder I always thought the water was so good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:03:58 2011 No.8307475 >>8307454 >Data was unavailable for Honolulu, New Orleans, New York, and Virginia Beach. However, we know that Honolulu's water is quite good -- naturally filtered through its volcanic rocks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:06:57 2011 No.8307490 I'm going to be moving to San Diego soon, that chart is depressing.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:06:57 2011 No.8307491

>>8307441
I know this is a troll post but I'll explain it.

First of all, you have no idea what you're getting. The leaves are most likely from the cheapest plantation, and made of of the cheapest stock.

Secondly, the leaves are ground down into such a state that they lose much of their flavor. Less of a problem with greens, but either way you'll be getting a bunch of flavor additives to make up for the loss.

Thirdly, not only are you getting bad leaves from the start, but you're also getting the (pardon the reference but it's all I've got) "stems and seeds" instead of the tips.

If you like it, and it works for you, that's great. But over all it's a much lower quality product, and for someone who likes tea and sees it as something they don't mind spending money on, it's just a waste of time and money that could be spent on something better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:12:58 2011 No.8307511 >>8307491 (I'm not him) But what are the other alternatives? I'm pretty much ignorant about tea, but I only see bagged tea being sold around these parts. Are there places where you can buy tea leaves or something like that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:13:57 2011 No.8307517 >>8307511 I order online. A lot of places have very cheap samples.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:14:57 2011 No.8307522 >>8307517 What websites would you recommend?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:14:57 2011 No.8307523 >>8307517 Oh, and also asian markets. Lots of loose leaf tea there.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:18:58 2011 No.8307539

If you're drinking red/black tea, it's not a huge deal if you drink from teabags. Europeans smother that shit with sugar and cream anyway.

Green tea is a different story. You can find cheap ass loose leaf tea that tastes as bland as bagged tea. The more expensive ones are in glass displays above the drugs in a Chinese market, and you can order other ones from Japanese stores.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:19:27 2011 No.8307540

I buy from uptontea.com and I'd recommend it.
It's right near by and cheap, but sometimes the tea they send isn't as fresh as it could be. It starts going flat too quick sometimes(2 months or so), but it probably can't be helped.
I am curious where else people buy from online.

Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Wed Dec 28 23:19:27 2011 No.8307542

>>8307511
The other two answers are quite fine, but sometimes you can also find a local tea room that sells tea for reasonable price. Mall Teavanas are rather overpiced, your best bet is a tea room that allows sitdown drinks as well as sells them separately, kinda like a Starbucks for tea.

There's been one in both of the medium-big cities I've lived near/in, so there's probably a reasonable chance.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:20:28 2011 No.8307549

>>8307511
Yes. There are some problems with tea shops. (Though I myself would love to have one as it's really the only thing I'd deem worth going outside for)

But really the biggest issue is that they aren't on every block. You can, however, order directly from importers or retail website online. To give a few examples:

www.teavana.com -A lot of people will start here or a site like it. I'm not fond of their quality myself, but you could do worse.

www.uptontea.com -Good selection, and decent quality. The site is not always up to date, and they lack some of the information more experienced drinkers may be interested in, but a good place to start.

http://hojotea.com/indexe -A more limited selection than most, but the quality is unmatched to those that I've tried so far. As a plus, the man knows his tea and his customer service is excellent.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:22:27 2011 No.8307554

>>8307522
I order my green tea from O-cha, but the prices are pretty high. I use Upton Tea for most everything else. There's another site called Den's Tea that has nice green teas for the price (imports from Japan, ships from the US). Upton has samples for a buck and Den's has a $3 sampler that has a few different teas included.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:23:28 2011 No.8307557 >>8307554 How do you like O cha? I've been eying their site for awhile, but as you said the prices are a little steep.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:23:57 2011 No.8307558 >>8307540 These guys have a brick and mortar store in my local mall, so I usually buy from them. http://www.lupiciausa.com/

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:24:57 2011 No.8307562 >>8307554 And that's $3 with free shipping.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:27:57 2011 No.8307566 Has anyone tried tea from Red Blossom, or more specifically, their formosa #18? I won't be able to afford another tea shipment until next month, but I'm pretty sure this will be a part of it. http://www.redblossomtea.com/tea/black/formosa-red-18.html

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:28:27 2011 No.8307567

>>8307542
I don't live in America, will it be worth shipping something like tea leafs to where I live? Won't they lose their freshness?

Anyway, I know there is a homeopathic pharmacy here in my city that sells a lot of asian herbs/food, maybe I should check it out for some tea, they probably have it.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:30:28 2011 No.8307572

>>8307567
Tea ships in vacuum sealed packages. While usually not the most top of the line bags or tins are used, they should be fine for several months assuming you're ordering from fresh stock. So unless you have to pay obscene duty or taxes I see no reason why you shouldn't import some.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:31:27 2011 No.8307575 /jp/ - Tea Culture Take this shit out of here, real otakus drink cold vending machine tea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:32:28 2011 No.8307581 >>8307575 I dont think it gets any worse than that.

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Wed Dec 28 23:32:57 2011 No.8307585 File: 61 KB, 365x411, 1305383765397.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8307575

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:34:57 2011 No.8307592 >>8307581 I drink Arizona tea, the fuck you gonna do about it?

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:34:57 2011 No.8307594

>>8307557
I really like it. They have a nice selection that seems to be cycled through fairly quickly and they get shinchas when they're ready.

The only thing I would not recommend is the large packages of genmaicha. Their other stuff comes in nice stamped and sealed foil-lined paper packets but the genmaichas came in a clear plastic bag. It seemed like they were from a whole different seller entirely, it was strange. They were cheap though so I guess that's to be expected. That's the only real single complaint that I have about that site.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:36:27 2011 No.8307601 >>8307594 Good to hear, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:36:27 2011 No.8307602 >Bottled water is cheap enough for me, a 24 pack costs about 5 dollars. cheap? that's more than gasoline for equivalent amounts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:36:58 2011 No.8307604 >>8307572 Thanks for the advice them. I might try shipping some when I can.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:37:27 2011 No.8307607 File: 67 KB, 506x700, 1324279237968.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8307592 Im going to sip my home brew and be more cultured than you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:37:57 2011 No.8307609 Tea isn't made FROM tea bags, it's put IN tea bags. It's to prevent the tea grains from shitting up your cuppa.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:38:28 2011 No.8307613 >>8307609 Is that not what a strainer in your pot is for?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:38:28 2011 No.8307612 >>8307575 I wish Amerifats had access to vending machine tea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:38:57 2011 No.8307615 >>8307567 Some places will vacuum seal and some will be nitrogen flushed. The teas won't go bad for months if you don't open them once they've been sealed.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:40:27 2011 No.8307621

>>8307602
Your point is valid (Fuck Bottled Water), but it's not more expensive than gasoline.
A 24 pack of 16oz bottled water is 384 fluid ounces, which is 3 gallons. 3 gallons of gasoline costs about $10 in the U.S, and is even more expensive in Europe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:41:57 2011 No.8307628 teabags? here teabags ur mom

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:42:27 2011 No.8307631 I drink from tea bags because it's less messy and it doesn't rot as quick as loose leaf tea. Being tru-neet is suffering.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:43:28 2011 No.8307637 >>8307631 It takes the same amount of time to pull the strainer from my pot as it does to pull a bag out of a cup.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:43:57 2011 No.8307639 >>8307631 I have a deal with my parents that I can order about $25 of tea every month, since it's what they used to spend on me for soda when I drank it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:45:27 2011 No.8307644 >>8307639 What kind of tea do you buy? I-t's not like I'm on a budget or anything!Idiot

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:45:27 2011 No.8307645 >>8307639 Congrats for getting off soda. Now you just need to get off your parents allowance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:47:27 2011 No.8307658 >>8307645 >getting off your parents' allowance >/jp/ I'm not saying everybody on /jp/ is mooching of his parents, but what you said was still a little weird.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:54:30 2011 No.8307682

>>8307644
I drink a lot of green tea, so I order mostly those, and I order some other teas when they run out if I like them. I try to keep two or three greens and atleast one white on hand. I usually have more than that in the closet. I skip a month or two at a time and then say something like "well I haven't ordered in a while..." and get to expand the budget a bit. I feel a guilty for doing it but I love tea.

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