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Are lolicons pedophiles?

>> No.8130939
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8130939

I don't think so.

>> No.8130943

>>8130939
Why do you not think so?

>> No.8130947

By pedophile, i'll assume you mean prepubescent and not just "under 18."

And, no.

>> No.8130957

>>8130947
I do. Most loli materials I've seen feature pre-pubescent children.
In fact I'd argue that being attracted to pubescent "children" is perfectly fine. There's a reason ephebophilia isn't considered a mental disorder like pedophilia.

>> No.8130967

>>8130957
The case is this, when a girl can carry a child she is a woman. But grown men are not supposed to be attracted by these young and perfectly virile young women. I love modern society.

>> No.8130974

only a pedo if you cannot be aroused by anything but children aka pre-pubescent

>> No.8130983

>>8130974
>only
Bullshit. That's like saying you're not a murderer if you sometimes don't murder people.

>> No.8130994

Fucking hate how modern society thinks any age under 18 means pedophilia.

>> No.8130999

Who cares. If I like it I'll fuck it. Guy, girl, dog, sofa, etc.

>> No.8130998

>>8130983
Bullshit, that's like saying you're not straight if you sometimes don't have sex with women. Oh, wait.

Defining one thing doesn't always follow the rules as defining another.

>> No.8131000

>>8130983

most men are attracted to pubescent girls, a true pedo can only be aroused by children

>> No.8131002

>>8130967
That's because they're going by mental development, not physical development.

It's also mostly for the parents rather than the kids themselves. If some 18+ dude tried to date my daughter I would beat the everliving shit out of him.

>> No.8131004

>>8130998
But I'm having sex with a woman right now!

I should have highlighted "but". Granted it was a poor analogy. My point is that being attracted to children = pedophile, regardless of whether you're ONLY attracted to children.

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>>8131000

>> No.8131012

>>8131002
how old is your daughter

>> No.8131024

>>8131012
12

Just old enough to browse 4chan and blend in.

>> No.8131025

>>8131024
where do you live

>> No.8131029

no but pedophiles are lolicons

>> No.8131030

20% people in the world are pedophiles, but they wont admit it, because they could end up in jail.

I for one get erected penis when I see the loli and I am a pedophile.

>> No.8131034

>>8131025
Springfield

>> No.8131035

>>8131030
How much does Japanese society account for in that percentage? Also where the fuck are you getting that number from?

>> No.8131039

Yes, by definition.
Just because these girls are 2D doesn't make them attraction to them less pedo.

>> No.8131045

>>8131002
Rarely, if ever, are people mentally mature enough by 18 to be having sex.

>> No.8131046

most men could be classed as pedophiles

>> No.8131050

>>8131039
>Just because these girls are 2D doesn't make them attraction to them less pedo.

And this is where you are wrong.

What you are looking at in the OP picture is not a child, it is an image of a fictional child.

>> No.8131056

Lolicon should be locked up so they can be killed by other inmates, just like pedophiles.

>> No.8131062

Where the HELL are you pulling these numbers from?

>> No.8131101
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HELL jea they are....i remember when i was a kid and was in school....i remember me havin a crush on a girl
many years later i'm like "i had a crush on a grade schooler?! rolf xD"

>> No.8131114

>>8131101
fagglet

>> No.8131124
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>>8131114

>> No.8131125

>>8131039
>Just because these girls are 2D doesn't make them attraction to them less pedo.
Actually~

Most straight men aren't attracted to 2d. 2d =/= 3d.

I like loli, but real children are not attractive.
I like traps, but real crossdressers generally fail to deliver.
Don't get me started on real women.

I'm sure most normals can apply similar logic to not liking deformed anime women.

>> No.8131126

>Lolicon (ロリコン?), also romanised as lolikon or rorikon,[1] is a Japanese portmanteau of the phrase "Lolita complex". In Japan, the term describes an attraction to underage girls (whether prepubescent, pubescent, or post-pubescent)[2][3] or an individual with such an attraction.
>The phrase is a reference to Vladimir Nabokov's book Lolita, in which a middle-aged man becomes sexually obsessed with a twelve-year-old girl.

>As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia (or paedophilia) is defined as a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents (persons age 16 or older) typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty may vary).

They mean the same thing, the "lolicons" will deny to the death that they're pedophiles though. Making up their own definitions for the words like retards. Delusional idiots are in denial.

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>>8131126

>> No.8131135

>>8131134

>no argument
>reaction face

>>>/b/, pedo

>> No.8131138

>>8130935
Yes. Because that's how society will define you if they find out you jackoff to cartoon children

>> No.8131154

>primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty may vary).

See? It's natural to be attracted to young girls... but when you become fixated solely on them well then you are a pedophile (child lover)

>> No.8131150

Probably, but does it matter? Who gives a fuck?

Also... sure is a lot of idiot non /jp/ in here. Wow.

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8131163

I'm not a pedophile. It is "Vampire Hunter"

>> No.8131166

>>8131138

are you suggesting they would not consider you a pedo and slap you on the sex offenders list? Naive anon is naive

Pedo with-hunt is in full swing, a nice distraction from the wests real roblems

>> No.8131172

>>8131154

What if you like absolutely everything you can possibly stick your dick in for pleasure?

>> No.8131186

>>8131172
Then you're a fetishist.

>> No.8131193

Well I don't really give a shit about others opinions, but I love lolis but have no interest at all in 3D children. As long as Finlands laws aren't as retarded as they are in some countries, I couldn't care less.

>> No.8131284

>>8131126
> primary or exclusive

As I am attracted to older women, I can not be a pedophile

>> No.8131304

Is nobody tired of discussing this? Apart from the usual off-board trolls it always turns into a groupthink circle-jerk of people complaining about laws on cartoon porn and no one has anything to add.

>> No.8131320

>>8131304
I keep hoping it will turn into a loli-dump thread.
But, alas, I'm usually disappointed.

>> No.8131362

It's an artificial, self-serving distinction done to lie to themselves. I fell into that trap myself.

>> No.8131380

I don't remember this scene from the animu. what episode is this so i can research further.

>> No.8131408

Society isn't ready to accept the difference between Pedophile, Ephebophile, or "Guy who likes 2D lolis".

In society's eyes, if you're attracted to prepubescent children, you're a pedophile, a person seen as the sickest monster to ever walk the earth. If you're attracted to Pubescent/post pubescent girls, well... You're also a pedophile because "Under 18". If you have a liking to lolis, you're a pedophile, because that says "I want to have sex with children".

There's no winning, it's a taboo topic, and I think it will be that way forever. It's a fucking mess nobody wants to be associated with. My heart kind of goes out to Ephebophiles and Loli bros. Actual pedophiles can fuck off.

>> No.8131414

>>8131380
It was from Ni Gakki.

>> No.8131419

>>8131362
The only artificial thing is the 2D girl.

You may as well try to claim all people are homosexual, and it's just an artificial self-serving distinction to say they are heterosexual. It's clearly impossible for people to like one thing but not like something relatively similar.

There's no way I could love raspberries but hate blackberries.

>> No.8131429

>>8131419
I love raspberries but I don't really like blackberries. Not that I don't agree with your argument.

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>>8131126
>using Japan's definition of Lolicon in an English discussion of loli vs pedo argument.

>> No.8131489

>There's no winning, it's a taboo topic, and I think it will be that way forever. It's a fucking mess nobody wants to be associated with.

The weird thing is that it only became a big taboo in the past 50 years or so. In parts of America it was perfectly fine for a 25 year old man to marry a 14 year old...

Elvis Presley fell in love with Priscillia when she was 14 (he was 24 at the time). And fellow rock star Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin. In Louisiana this was fine, but when he went to Europe it caused an uproar.

For the rest of the wold 14 is still the age of consent in most places. Unicef and other child exploitation groups are lobbying governments to raise this age to 18, but for 5500 of the past 6000 years of recorded history it was never an issue.

>> No.8131511

>>8131489
This strikes me as weird. We're becoming _more_ liberal, yet being attracted to a post-pubescent female of child-bearing age is somehow immoral? Even nude pictures of teenagers are classed as "child pornography" these days (even when teenagers send such pictures to each other!). I remember when here in the UK, newspapers like The Sun would frequently include pictures of 16-year-olds on Page 3. In fact there was apparently one issue in the 90s that ran with the front page headline "PEDO SCUM" (it's a tabloid), then had a topless 16-year-old girl on the next page! Imagine doing that now...

>> No.8131513

>>8131489
Times change. I still think that it's never going to change. If anything, it's going to get worse.

Also, I think the AoC for a majority of the world (at least developed countries) is15-16.

>> No.8131524

>>8131489
Age of maturity is a painfully complicated subject, it isn't too surprising to me that people are all over the place with ideas about it.

The lower age range, 12-14ish, was marked from a time where once you bled, you could be bred. History is full of kings younger than anyone who is technically allowed to post on 4chan. Meanwhile, scientists are busy proving that human development doesn't slow until the early-mid 20s.

18, as the age of majority, is a truly arbitrary line. Though it is now amusingly falling as a perfect midpoint between the ages of physical maturity and mental maturity.

>> No.8131547

>>8131511

>UK

Just look at led Zepplin's "houses of the holy" album cover. Google it if you must...

It is protected as art.. But if you tried to produce that in the UK today you would be in prison and a psychiatrist would be telling you how sick you were and prescribing group therapy.

>> No.8131552

>>8131524
Well one reason for the lower "age of consent" in say, medieval times, was because of the shortened life expectancy, right?
Then since everyone in /jp/ is going to commit suicide in their 30s or 40s, why aren't we allowed to have sex with young teenage girls? ( ._.)

>> No.8131562

>>8131552
> ( ._.)
suck my cock dude

>> No.8131558

>>8131547
I would, but I worry about being carted off as pedophile by Big Brother. The web pages are probably blocked too, like that Scorpions album cover.

I wonder how long before paintings of cherubim are banned?

>> No.8131571

>>8131562
I would if I could.

>> No.8131668

>>8131558
Quite a sad world we live in, where the expansion of knowledge about the world ("Dear god! Someone found a pedophile in Greece! I must protect my babies! Sincerely, a concerned American mother.") is not accompanied by any concept of the sheer quantity of people in the world, nor any true concept of world affairs until said affair could potentially be related their own persons.

There is something deeply disturbing and terribly amusing to watch as media-whores cry about the danger of pedophiles to their own children, without realizing that statistics show it would be they themselves who performed the acts, in the non-existent chance that it actually happened. Not to mention that most people don't even speak English well enough to know what an ephobophile is, and mothers would gladly scream "pedophile!" at a 20-year-old man staring at their 16-year-old's cow-like breasts while she's doused in makeup and looks to be 30.

Such a ridiculous and confounded world. And people wonder why I often dislike interactions with the average person.

>> No.8131784

>>8131668
>Not to mention that most people don't even speak English well enough to know what an ephobophile is.
That would be greek.

>> No.8131794

>>8131784
NEWS AT 10: SOME ENGLISH WORDS COME FROM GREEK.

>> No.8131860

>>8131794
Yeah, but the same happens with many others. I'm Latin, so I'd know what it meant without ever learning English.

>> No.8131864

>>8131860
> I'm Latin.
Nationality of kings.

>> No.8131913
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My 17 year old friend likes loli and has over 100GB of Loli doujins of a certain adult nature.

What does that make her?

Askin' it now cause her power's out.

>> No.8131919

>>8131913
> her
Wait, what?

>> No.8131923

>>8131913
A whore, like other women. Eat her up, dude.

>> No.8131929

>>8131919
Troll or his friend is a gender confused faggot. Just ignore it.

>> No.8131931

>>8131919
There is a sex known as a 'female', /jp/

>>8131923
She has a boyfriend but I'm not gonna lie we've done stuff

>> No.8131968

>>8131931
>There is a sex known as a 'female', /jp/
You mean gender.
>>>/soc/

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>>8131931
Bumping with ass

>> No.8131976

Can lolis be pedophiles?

>> No.8131979

>>8130935
Yes

>> No.8131980

>>8131970
Thread was getting shitty, but there is always some asshole who has to take a huge steaming turd to finish it off.

>> No.8131985

>>8131931
>>8131970
Where do you think you are?

>> No.8131983

>>8131970
Please just leave.

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>>8131980
I was so hopeful before opening that pic.

>> No.8131989

>>8131970
I'm an eternal Nintendo fan, but this disgusts me.

>> No.8132025

I fingered a 3 year old girl when I was 5 does that make me a pedophile?

>> No.8132043

>>8132025
These days, probably.

>> No.8132068

I just want her to sit right on my face
just once

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8132091

They are synonymous you now? So semantically speaking, yes.

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8132173

They are synonymous you now? So semantically speaking, yes.

>> No.8132248

>>8132173
>>8132091
Say what?

>> No.8132281

>>8132248
lolicon means the same as pedophile in Japan, it's just weeaboo faggots the ones that make a difference between them

>> No.8132283

>>8132281
PROTIP: We're not in Japan.

>> No.8132287

>>8132283
PROTIP: /jp/

>> No.8132295

>>8132283
that's why I said it's just weeaboo faggots the ones that make a difference between them.

>> No.8132301

>>8132295
>weeaboo faggots

You know you're on 4chan, right?

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>>8132281

>> No.8132311

>>8132301
again, this is /jp/, don't let the title deceive you

>> No.8132327

>>8132311
Otaku culture, this is about as weeaboo as it gets.

>> No.8132364

>>8132303
I said semantical not legal

lrn2read

>> No.8132367
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>>8132068

>> No.8132373 [DELETED] 

>>8132327
it's NEET culture actually, mostly 2hu and shitposting

>> No.8132382

>>8132327
it's NEET culture actually, mostly 2hu and shitposting, otaku is just an euphemism

>> No.8132387

>>8132364
You said nothing of the sort.

>> No.8132398

>>8132367
I want Flan to sit on my face while telling me how much of a dirty perverted lolicon I am.

>> No.8132407

>>8132387
I did but my post got deleted by nazi mod

http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/8130935#p8132091

>> No.8132459

>>8132407
Yes because child models are totally okay, especially on a SFW board.

Also cool board foolz, haven't even updated in the last couple hours.

>> No.8132779

I don't think so
I don't see the attraction to real little girls but I enjoy the cuteness of 2D girls. Those big eyes, perfect hair, unrealistic personalities

also, I have a huge thing for height difference, which usually isn't in regular hentai as much

Real little girls are cute but the thought of anything sexual related to them is fucking disgusting.

>> No.8132811

Lolicons are pedophiles, but not all pedophiles are lolicons.

>> No.8132883

>>8132811
Linguistically, historically, and factually incorrect.

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