/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Dozo.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop spamming kusoge on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7839766
>kusoge

[Anonymous No.]

Gomen ne..
I am already full, Saten-sama has already given me my dinner~

[Anonymous No.]

イラネェ・・・

[Anonymous No.]

>>7839766
You've got a lot of Touhou threads to post in them as well, friend.

[Anonymous No.]

Dozo.

[Anonymous No.]

kuso warota

[Anonymous No.]

I'm in the f~u~t~u~r~e~!

[Anonymous No.]

Dozo.

[Anonymous No.]

あああ〜

[Anonymous No.]

>>7840786
G-give me the p-pudding nee-san!

..Or is that dick cheese?
Not that it matters, i am fine with both!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7840814
I always assume its pudding and she's trying to make you suck her cock by luring you in with pudding

[Anonymous No.]

Dozo.

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>>7840845
why is the girl in the top middle holding french fries but trying to feed you a big block of cheese?

[Anonymous No.]

Dozo!

I..I worked hard to make you this!
Y-you are not going to refuse to eat my bentou right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7840845
What's the bottom right corner from?
Them eyebrows are irresistible.

[Anonymous No.]

So, what, are we going to start having Kasumi daily dose threads now too?

Because I'm okay with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7840864
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOD

[Anonymous No.]

>霞のHイベントラフ
What could have been...

[Anonymous No.]

Zodo.

[Anonymous No.]

this whole thread

[Anonymous No.]

Dozo

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>>7840865
Peace@Pieces

[Anonymous No.]

Why did the girls get pissed when Kasumi was feeding Takeru?

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>>7842368
Because she's 14 years old, or there abouts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842368
Are you a harem protagonist, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842373
But age is not a barrier

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842383
It's the whole "Shirogane sometimes disappears in his off time..." "Yashiro is suddenly feeding Shirogane something that couples often do" therefore, "Shirogane must be (almost?) committing a crime!"
Among other things.

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>>7842383

Are you a baka? All of the girls have a crush on Takeru and anything that implies intimacy would trigger their wrath as per standard genre rules.

Additionally-- each of the girls is probably concerned that one of the other girls is going to "win", but that's something they can accept. That's part of living in a society with one guy for every five girls.

But when the Trix Rabbit comes out of fucking nowhere and appears to be taking the prize. They all immediately unite against the common threat. Plus, anytime you date a younger girl, women your own age will see it as a challenge to their value. College girls freak out about dating a highschool girl and attempt to delegitimize the relationship or the worth of the girl. Mid 20s girls do that to college girls. After that point it gets less and less plausible for women to maintain that position.

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>>7842450
Jealousy is a bitch

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>>7842450

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I was really hoping that they would find out that Kasumi was living in Takeru's room...

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>>7842518
Ayamine finds out, and Takeru buys her off with synthetic yakisoba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842554
Yea that was kind of lame.

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>>7842518
Wait, you wanted more lame misunderstanding bullshit? Takeru doing what he did was awesome on so many levels.

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>>7842619
Shenanigans are the best part of Muv-Luv.

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>>7842624
But don't you have anime for that shit?

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>>7842635
>Muv Luv
>Anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842644
Total Eclipse is getting an adaptation. May or may not break a possible ML anime.

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>>7842644

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>>7842644
Way to completely miss the point and use greentext.

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>>7842651
I can't believe that asshole went and used the quote feature like intended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842635
Why would you watch an anime when you could play an eroge? Muv Luv is leagues better than any harem anime.

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>>7842653
No, that is certainly not how it is intended to be used. You see, quoting is taking a part of what someone said. I said nothing about MuvLuv and anime being together.

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>>7842660
I can certainly agree on that one, and I'm not saying I hate MuvLuv. However, if the shenanigans were your favourite part of MuvLuv I really just don't know what to say besides it's been done better elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

where are my 3d glasses

[Anonymous No.]

Discuss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842684
MLA shitfags = /v/fags
sage for kusoge

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>>7842671
Even if Muv Luv's hijinks aren't the best in their class (which I'm not sure I'd agree to) they're still damn good. And either way anime hasn't done it better, which is why I was puzzled by your redirection.

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>>7842697
>pretending to hate MLA

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>>7842684
>Where's my Kasumi route?
>Where's my Yuuhi route?
In Altered Fable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842701
>pretending to like MLA
It's been translated for over a week.
Only those from /a/ and /v/ like it now.

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>>7842695
I've actually seen many anime which I consider to have done that stuff better than MuvLuv Extra and Unlimited did, and I'm not even going to try to claim the anime in question are particularly any good.

Either way, those are just my opinions. I disliked reading both Extra and Unlimited but I don't hate MuvLuv as a whole nor do I wish to force my opinion on you any longer.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop saging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842757
double sage

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>>7842684
I didnt play the rest because they are shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842797
Fuck off to /m/

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842834
>mla
>/m/

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>>7842797
That must be a useful power, being able to tell whether something is good or bad before you even play it.

[Anonymous No.]

If Takeru in unlimited lost his memories everytime he looped, then why was he able to keep his memories in alternative?

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>>7842900
It's explained in Alternative. You shouldn't come here to ask questions while reading.

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>>7842903
I don't remember it being explained in alternative.

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>>7842903
What was the explanation? I read Alt but I don't remember them ever explaining it.

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>>7842918
Hell if I know. I read this in the middle of the night so all of those science talks went over my head.

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>>7842918
I'm high and sleep-deprived as fuck but I'll make a guess based on what I still remember :
He is a causality conductor. Memories from his past lives, given the right circumstances and triggers, will flow back into him. The more important, more vivid stuff will go first, like the world is invaded by BETA. The less important stuff, like his fucking yuuko that one time, comes later.

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>>7842951
Right but he didnt do anything at the start of alternative to trigger memories. He just woke up with all the memories(short of the ending).

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>>7842965
The world being invaded by BETA is something he can not forget, and has consistently experienced in every instance of his past lives. It is part of his identity, so to speak.
He might not remember the little variations (it will take time), but something that's so vivid is likely to persist after his death.

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>>7842972
Not that guy, but it still doesn't make sense that he didn't regain his memories of that moment while looping in Unlimited.

I have this feeling that the VN addresses that and I can't remember it, it's driving my insane thinking about it.

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>>7842972
Then he should have remembered alternative V after the first loop or two

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>>7842972
Sumika slammed together a Takeru Frankenstein that didn't manage to keep his memories.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7842987
Err... didn't manage to LOSE his memories,

[Anonymous No.]

So, im already on the 25th of december on alternative, how much is left?

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>>7843024
A lot. I guess you are about Halfway to 2/3rds of the way through.

[Trollkastel !!Dzu45XInYEy No.]

>>7840814

That my edit's are still around pleases me greatly.

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>>7842978
>Not that guy, but it still doesn't make sense that he didn't regain his memories of that moment while looping in Unlimited.

As I understood it, the reason he remembered anything at the start of Alternative was because of his own willpower. At the end of UL he had strong feelings of wanting to "do things differently" had he known what he knew at the start of UL. Meanwhile, in Extra, Sumika had the same mentality for every route where Takeru ended up with someone else. Extra Sumika's will was downloaded into Alternative Sumika, who then carried it out. Takeru was forcibly looped back, and all women-related memories wiped, but his own will managed to hold onto the non specific stuff and his emotion was still there, Sumika couldn't rip that out of him.

[Anonymous No.]

Who composed the MLA OST? It's fucking amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7843070
>音楽 渡来亜人 , 河野陽吾 , 須藤賢一

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>>7843088

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>>7843070
JAM Project, Nanase Hikaru, Iwasaki Taku, Anze Hijiri + age's in-house composers (Angel Note etc).

>>7843058
>At the end of UL he had strong feelings of wanting to "do things differently"
Still doesn't completely explain things, given that he had those strong feelings at the end of each Unlimited loop but still repeated an Unlimited number of times before going into the final one (Alternative's)

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>>7843236
I disliked the JAM project songs...they were pretty lame jpop.

Who did the non-voiced music tracks specifically?

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>>7843258
The rest of the named composers.

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>>7843268
vgmdb.net/album/3753
vgmdb.net/album/3754

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>>7843275
That's a lot of different composers...

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>>7843289
Yes. Looking at the composition credits at the bottom of the pages, Nanase Hikaru has the biggest share of tracks, followed by Iwasaki Taku and Hijiri Anze.

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>>7843312
Forgot to mention that Nanase and Iwasaki are quite well-known for their anime OSTs, while Hijiri has Resident Evil: Code Veronica to her(?) name.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay there's something i don't get...

Reactors can only transmit info to BETA that come into contact with it, which is why the BETA only broke the S-11 timers afterwards.

So how can the sadogashima BETA use human tatics like diversions, before they got into contact with any reactors?

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>>7844075
Diversions are something that the BETA could always do, they just didn't take Humanity seriously until they actually eliminated a hive.

[narutomaster941794 No.]

kuso warota

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>>7843236
By the end of Unlimited isn't referring to any specific point except for Takeru's death which triggers the loop again. For all we know, Takeru might have died in the beginning of Operation Babylon every time except the last time, and began to get that will power after that point, or it began to subconsciously build up within him. We just honestly don't know enough after Takeru after "The Day" to say anything conclusive at this point.
Though, I will say that if TDA turns out to be the last loop, I'm am going to be so butt frustrated that unless it's following the secret Kasumi route or something.

[Anonymous No.]

Is "Please give me your Santa-Rabbit" some kind of double entendre?

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>>7843258
>JAM project
>pretty lame jpop

[Anonymous No.]

Dozo

[Anonymous No.]

Should have locked the door.

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>>7847342
I don't think that would have made much of a difference.

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>>7840864
I would eat that in a heart beat. I will never be lovingly fed some girls poop ;-;

[◖（´・ܒ・｀）◗ !!4vsJrPHcDGj No.]

>>7847342
>implying the alternate universe is real

[Anonymous No.]

☆ dozo

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Dozo

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>>7847342
I can't help but picture those BETAS hacking the terminal with their "hand".
By the way, is there some kind of beta moefications?

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>>7847761

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>>7847559
>◖（´・ܒ・｀）◗

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>>7842900
READING STEINER

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Dozo

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Dozo

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>>7847962
Google confirmed for Alternative backers.

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>>7850254
Naturally.

[PSN: Brofisto No.]

My problem was that Alternative was 30 hours of military mumbo jumbo and 20 minutes of plot

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>>7850840
The "military mumbo jumbo" and general presentation are the very essence of MuvLuv Alternative.

Sometimes I wish age could've expanded on the political dynamics of their universe instead of leaving it all from the perspective of Takeru who knows nothing. I'm pretty sure their fanbase doesn't give a shit about that though, nor do I know if age could even pull it off.

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>>7850857
Yeah I was disappointed that any political depth fell by the wayside so early on.

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>>7850857
For being only from Takeru's perspective we got a surprising amount of information.
Specially regarding the japanese government and America.

That said, the world is expanded upon in side material a lot anyway.

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>>7850913
We got a fair bit of information, but I felt that it just fed it to us instead of letting the narrative speak for itself. The scenes where Takeru is physically interacting with the American soldiers were excellent for example, but there was a very limited context.

And I do realize the world was expanded in the side material, but I would've still preferred to have it in the actual game.

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>>7844436

Looking at the Beta like that is a little inaccurate. The point is, they don't see "agency" or "thought" behind human actions. They see the actions of humanity as something like a hurricane. You experience the disaster and you learn to board up your windows or move elsewhere. The Beta's answer to Takeru when he asks why they are at war is... disbelief. It's like hearing a Hurricane talk to you or like having a Tornado yell at you. It makes no sense. They aren't using diversions. They are using "strategy" in the same sense that putting sandbags near a flooding river is a strategy.

As for the backroom Politics, I think Takeru is actually a pretty good window for it. It's enough without being too much. Knowing more of the Politics in advance would give away plot-twists that are very plausible only because they are the result of political forces.

Keep in mind, Takeru gets to be involved in nearly all of the big political events in MLA and all of his team members parents or lovers are highly relevant to the intrigue.

>>7842918

The explanation is that when they used the G-Bomb on the hive under the base, that explosion tapped into Sumika's will across all of the parallel worlds and her singular wish for Takeru, every Sumika created from an Extra timeline where Takeru picks another girl, lives her entire life wanting Takeru back. He keeps getting sent through world after world after world and each of those worlds ends in a bad possibility.

After he undergoes this an extremely high number of times, the residual information and its connection to Takeru is strong enough to transmit even from within their own timeline. That, or Sumika ended up amalgamating all of the possible future Takeru's from Ult's bad endings.

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>>7851309
>Knowing more of the Politics in advance would give away plot-twists that are very plausible only because they are the result of political forces.

I can't think of a single time where it woud've made any real difference aside from Sagiri and Yuuhi, so they could've just dealt with it all afterwards. I can see your point, but some different perspective would've done wonders for MuvLuv in a lot of situations.

>Keep in mind, Takeru gets to be involved in nearly all of the big political events in MLA and all of his team members parents or lovers are highly relevant to the intrigue.

Again, by "getting involved" you mean "getting told" then maybe. The climatic hive battle would've been so much more than with properly fleshed out political dynamics, particularly by properly adding the circumstances of more countries involved and just how much it meant for them to be helping.

Remember when Takeru's unit, the UN, and the US were going to infiltrate the the original hive together? It infuriated me that the story actually skipped over all of their efforts from the actual infiltration and what they would've felt when they were mislead. That could've been a truly amazing scene if handled properly, basically Walken's portion multiplied by a thousand.

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>>7851385
The UN and US all got shot down because they didn't have meatshields in the form on Ichimonji's.
And Alternative had already been delayed for 3 years because age was working on finishing it. Had they expanded on Kashgar, it probably would taken several more months to finish, that they may or may not have had to do so.
Maybe the manga will expand on it when it gets there, and/or Alternative will eventually get remade including all those changes in there with better rUGP wizardy.

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>>7851458
>The UN and US all got shot down because they didn't have meatshields in the form on Ichimonji's.

I thought that only the units which were meant to secure the landing zone and hive entrances all died. It was stated that there were a lot of them and only a select few were actually going to enter.
I also seem to remember Takeru's unit making it to the point where directly after where they decided their allies to resumed the story, so I just assumed they completely ignored all of that.

Either way, just replaced "skipped over" with "copped out of" and it's all of the same shit, because that's basically what it was.

>And Alternative had already been delayed for 3 years because age was working on finishing it.

I guess I can understand why, but regardless the story still felt incomplete in many areas.

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>>7851487
>decided their allies
Ergh, decided is supposed to be deceived.

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>>7851487
I can't say I disagree. I felt like I had missed something when we go from diving through the atmosphere to the basic end of the Kashgar Assault.
The standard edition handles it a bit better, with a short movie playing before it plopped you right in the middle, that showed A-01 and 04 descend through the atmosphere, enter the hive and fight a bit through.
This is a fairly low quality recording of it, but it'll do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gKXXjUdR5A

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>>7851506
Do you know if the standard edition change anything else notable aside from that?

[Anonymous No.]

I take it the 360 release is just going to be a port of the standard edition in higher resolution?

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>>7851516
I haven't looked through the whole thing yet because 50 hours long, but several more scenes are voiced, such as when Takeru says "Leave it to me" to Mitsuki, bits of the "Don't underestimate humans scene and firing scene" which makes the scene even more heartbreaking, Miki is censored, end of XM3 trial is censored of course, if it's like the EX/UN scenes, the scene with the 00 Unit will be pretty much the same sans nudity before jamming it in, I've heard that the scenen prior to that managed to be worse, CG wise, though.

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>>7851487

I think your criticisms are valid. But ultimately, it's sort of like Starship Troopers. It is a story about a soldier and his experiences in a war.

The reality of politics is that political decisions are made by older people. Politics isn't something that we could ever get through Takeru.

I agree that parts of the story are missing and that perhaps they could have made more drama at that part. But at the same time, the scenario was constructed so that we could focus on the characters we started with and their last moments together. I think that part had a purity of purpose that could be lost if we focused on other things.

It's hard for me to look at ML:A and not think of all the times I just literally said "YES! FUCK YEAH!" to everything as it came together. I think if they replaced some of the more tedious infodumps with political intrigue, it would probably have been an improvement.... but it was so good already that I feel there is more to be lost from messing with it than to be gained.

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>>7851525
But basically, I've only checked the first half of Sadogashima, the last scene before Final Extra, before Kashgar and at the end of Kashgar, nothing else. Oh an of course, the new OP which alternates with the regular one that spoils the hell out of Kashgar.

>>7851520
They haven't said anything really regarding the changes, as far as I know. Hoping for more voiced lines from Hoshi, but I'm not holding my breath at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

I dont know whether its ixrec's translation but the game seem to use confusing terminology a lot.

For example it frequently switches between "wings" "squadrons" "battalions" "companies", etc. Its supposed to be one or the other...

And its even weirder that in the coup arc, the maps show "wing" but the translation reads "batallion" or some such.

As for Kashgar, the first waves that were dropped to secure the gate got wiped out by the anti-laser warheads that the BETA didnt shoot down. The second wave died in the air.

It was clearly rushed at that point, and you can see that the game is rushed at some points. Like when the BETA start pouring into hangar 90, there's a lot of gunfire sounds but no tracer fire and no BETA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7851800
Ixrec can't into military terminology.
It's a lot more consistent in Japanese. Some guy working on the English wiki has been having difficulty trying to properly label things because of the patch having issues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7851810
Basically, the official stuff is like so, with numbers indicating group size.
2=Element
4=Flight
12=Squadron
36=Group
108=Wing

[Anonymous No.]

>>7851819
So how many TSFs is a batallion?

[Anonymous No.]

Dozo

[Anonymous No.]

aita!

[Anonymous No.]

Habu!

[Anonymous No.]

Dozo

[Anonymous No.]

Agaaa

[Anonymous No.]

Whoever keeps bumping this thread should do a better job and inciting conversation.

[Anonymous No.]

henyuu~

[Anonymous No.]

ubaaaaaaaaaaa~

[Anonymous No.]

There's a huge part which didn't get expanded on.

You know how early on in Extra, Takeru is dreaming of playing Valgernon with Mikoto?

And the game turns out EXACTLY the same later on with the exact same lines?

How come that didn't get expanded on? I thought that would show up for sure in Unlimited or Alternative.

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>>7856352
That's just because Takeru is so locked into his patterns for Valger-non that Mikoto and even Ayamine can exploit them and beat him.