/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Why haven't you joined the Army yet?

[­­wtH !HELLB/V.96 No.]

cuz the'i'y're GAY GAY GAY =__=

[Anonymous No.]

They don't have a foreign legion.

[b.b.hood !ponpOnMgkc No.]

Too frail.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

After four years of JROTC, the bureaucratic bullshit taught me that military life is not for me. And FUCK running.

[Anonymous No.]

First you tell me to smoke, now you're telling me to join the army.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>7663169
/jp/'s autism is being cured at an unprecedented rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663179
>smoking
>joining the army
>not autistic

Riiiiiight.

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>Army

Lol, what kind of fag would join the army?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663160

If you want to make a bad decision, the US army does have allow enlistment by non-citizens. You just can't ever become an officer, so you get shit pay, grunt work, and combat hotspots.

On the upside, if you serve, you can get fast-tracked for citizenship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663209
What kind of fag wouldn't?

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>>7663216
One smart enough to join the Air Force like me.

Oh yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663225
>smart [...] like me
>sample_6e05ac295a166e20c0febd5(...).jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663225


lackland AF base boot camp was a kick

[b.b.hood !ponpOnMgkc No.]

You can, to a degree, choose what you want to do when you join the army, correct?

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>>7663234
>Implying I don't dl the smaller size ones on purpose becuase I have shit upload on this internet.

Yup.

>>7663236
Hell yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663234
What's wrong?

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>>7663247
Yes, in terms of choice it goes like this:

Air Force > Navy >>> Army >>>>>>>>> Marines

Enlisted. Officer is a whole different thing.

[Anonymous No.]

Because I still have 5 years in my contract till I'm out of the Navy.
Besides, you should really join the Air Force instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663249
Who are you quoting?

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>>7663266
I've seen you around /jp/ lately.

>Keep up the good work

[b.b.hood !ponpOnMgkc No.]

>>7663260
By in terms of choice do you mean that list is (in your opinion) the best to worst choice?

Also, can you pick (again, to a degree) what kind of 'position' you'd like to have? Since my initial assumption was right, I've always wondered why anyone would -want- to become a front line combat troop. Just sit in an air conditioned tent and relax on radio duty or something instead.

[Anonymous No.]

Join the Chairforce, you do nothing and get paid

or be smart like me and join the Navy, i get all the butt and dick i want every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663276
Some people get off on killing other people.

[Anonymous No.]

Why haven't you joined the JSDF yet?

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>>7663276
Well, in the marines you main job will almost (certain high skills jobs are exempt) always be infantry, and you can choose a secondary job that you will learn and use though generally is not as important until you rank up.

In the army, you pick your main job, but your secondary job will also be solider. So be prepared to stop doing you main job and go fighting instead.

The Air Force and the Navy your main job is your (generally) only job, though in the navy, be prepared to embark on a ship or subs for tours around the world. And I don't know about you, but being on a ship in the middle of the oceans for months is not my thing. Also, certain jobs are more generalized than in Navy than in the Air Force.

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>>7663278
>Chairforce

Only if your a fag and pick a bitch job.

I get to work on the planes. Even if they are shitty old B-52s.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to be applying to join the navy soon.

[b.b.hood !ponpOnMgkc No.]

>>7663295
Ah, I see now.

Also I think my main problem with the army (the US army at least) is the insane amounts of money being spent all the time. A country has skewed priorities when a significant portion of the population has a problem with funded medical care but xxbillion to air condition soldiers somewhere is not a problem.

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>>7663305
For the buttsex?

Good luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663295

To add onto this, Marines usually attract that asshole Kill-For-Thrills types or people who are in it for the glory. In the US, there's a certain respect for "serving your country", and marines always get the lion's share of that respect.

In general, the Air Force and Navy are the "thinking man's" enlistment, the army is for jugheads who are dumb, poor, or unable to get a job and thus spend most of their time being MP, marching, or managing logistics, and the marines are for psychopaths and glory-whores as stated.

[Anonymous No.]

Because anyone who joins the military should be publicly executed for betraying the human race.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been thinking of joining for a while. There isn't really any other option for a directionless NEET in the US. I'm extremely out of shape though.

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>>7663364
I love the haters

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>7663225
>>7663300
>>7663375
Your /jp/-related name does little to conceal your /b/tard nature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663364
I can't say I'm entirely supportive of the human race regardless

[Anonymous No.]

Why should I?

[Anonymous No.]

Mandatory military service wasn't nice.

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>>7663384
Sorry, I've also posting on /a/, so I'm not really acting like my /jp/ how was your day self?

Not that you want me to act like that anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663152

Because I'm too old to be accepted and I already have a career.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Active duty wasn't my cup of tea back in the day, but I enjoy being a reservist currently.

Just re-enlisted recently as well. I mean hell, I already put in 7 years. Might as well do the 20.

[Anonymous No.]

Health problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663375
Hater? No, you've just clearly chosen to join the ranks of the hostis humani generis. My disapproval is a matter of survival--it is plainly obvious that your very existence is a threat to my survival and the survival of any future offspring.

Even those who avoid the battlefield have chosen service to the tribe over service to the species. How can I consider an irrational partisan to be an ally? If we ever find ourselves under different banners, you will be a "friend of my enemy," supporting those who do the killing either directly or indirectly.

[Anonymous No.]

Cuz they say they stand for freedom, yet they discriminate against homosexual. faggots FTW! (At least, that's my excuse. ...)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663396
Start acting cute like the faggot you are.

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>>7663426
Sorry~

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663425
DADT is ending soon, faggot, so you can join and gay the place up like it's ancient Greece.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663446
Really? Shit. Well then my next excuse is that I'm the last man in my family with their last name. Before joining (or should I say getting drafted, I'll never willingly join the Army) I must fornicate and bear children.

[Anonymous No.]

Cus Barack innocent country oBOMBER is president and I don't want to be sent off to die for Israel and the military industrial complex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663421

Pack some more pseudo-intellectualism into that post because you're still just looking retarded.

The army does more to serve the human race than any corporation in America, even if half of it is inadvertent. From the synthetic rubbers your chair is built on to computer you're using. The US army has had a hand in all of it. Without conflict, the human race does not develop, and the US army has managed to find a way to generate conflict without the ridiculous scale of destruction of conflicts in ages past.

In fact, you can even be one of those filthy tree-hugging faggots and thank the US army for doing it's best to bomb poor shit-holes with astronomical population growth to keep the world population under control.

[Anonymous No.]

Because I want to see Israel dissolved.

[Anonymous No.]

Because killing is bad, and we're only in the war because religion exists. ("ALLAH HAS SPOKEN TO ME", anyone?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663473
You're so brainwashed it's not even funny, either that or you're trolling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663481
I agree we should all be friends

[Anonymous No.]

Because I'm not an American.

[Anonymous No.]

because if I wanted to get raped every day for just being alive, I would lock myself in the basement of the Scarlet mansion with Flandre. At least she would make sure to paint pretty pictures on the walls with my blood~

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663482

There's not a single lie in there. I'll even provide citations if you want.

I know it's hard to be talked down to when you're being educated, but you'll just have to live it, I'm afraid.

[Anonymous No.]

All wars should be settled over a game of Age of Empires.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>7663473
A valid point. However, all the military has done is succeed in making the battles one-sided, which is really rather unfair in the long run. I'm not about to complain, since I'm surviving just fine due to them, but I sincerely hope that someday we can stop cloaking all this conflict in patriotism and playing the false victim. It'd be more honest if we were to say "Why? Because FUCK THEM, that's why." instead of all this bullshit self-righteous rhetoric.
I await the day that someone opts to depopulate THIS shithole, though

[Anonymous No.]

Can autistic antisocial men who are more booksmart make good soldiers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663494
You can both start by killing yourselves.

[Satorin !KOMEijI/Jg No.]

>>7663473
Same could be said about Hitler and advancements we made if it wasn't him and what he did in history.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>7663499
That's what we call Officer Material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663494

There is little reason to depopulate the United States, as our population growth is just barely positive, and that's only due to immigration.

Were it not for people heading to the United States, we would slowly depopulate ourselves, much like Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663499
Yes. Be an Army librarian. Or an 4chan recruiter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663499
Well considering 90% of the army consists of retarded rednecks who only joined for the sake of getting to blow something up I'm sure you'll do fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663506

Hitler was but a man. Were it not for him, there would easily have been another. I presume you instead speak of the wehrmacht.

But beyond that, yes, the same can be said, and the same would be true.

It is the standing armies of the world and their forced conflicts that bring about idea-exchange on a scale that is utterly impossible during peace-time.

To hate an Army is to effectively hate progress.

[Anonymous No.]

I joined the army for the IRL bullet curtain.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>7663509
I'm not considering it from an overpopulation standpoint. I live in one of the least densely populated regions in the country, so I'm fully aware we have space to spare. However, it'd be nice for the US to realize that war hits home sometime. We are rather divorced from the realities of it, and I think we'd be just a bit less itchy in the trigger finger if we knew the exact nature of what we were inflicting on people whose lives were already miserable before we opted to rain death on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663473
Yeah, you're right, the U.S. Army IS responsible for a lot of the technology we have today.

The same technology that is polluting the fuck out of our planet and will probably knock off a good 90% of our population if we don't pull the plug soon.

The same technology that is being monopolized by those corporations which have become close friends with our government and then used to widen the wealth gap even further.

And population control? Natural selection is a funny thing. When people start dying off too quickly, the result is that they have as many children as possible in the hopes that some will make it out alive. If your mass murder has any impact at all, it will be to make humanity into a goddamn hydra consuming resources at an exponential pace to sate its many heads.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the Army's official position on Touhous?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663532
Do your part: turn of your computer!

Go back to >>>/b/ and be edgy there you confused teenager.

[Anonymous No.]

Because I don't want to contribute to something that is harming and killing people. If you enjoy killing and being a meatshield for your society then go ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the Army's official position on Touhous?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663532
>When people start dying off too quickly, the result is that they have as many children as possible in the hopes that some will make it out alive

Citation please, history has proven otherwise due to the mass amount of lost civilizations.

It is poverty that encourages mass-breeding. And since you seem to have such a hardon for our "limited" resources, even you should surely realize that the more people in the world there are, the worse poverty will be.

Also, "pollution" was much worse per-capita during the industrial revolution. Before the US achieved Global Supremacy. I know it's amazing, but the US army has actually invented most of "clean" energy sources we use today. Modern Hydroplants and Nuclear plants are both legacy designs from the US army.

You know what peace-time invented?
Coal-burning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663540
Teenager, huh?

Assuming you're not just a hypocrite, I'll guess you're in your early twenties, then.

And no, ironically, the Internet is pretty much the only thing we have capable of facilitating the level of communication needed to solve these problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>knock off a good 90% of our population
In thousands of years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663553
>You know what peace-time invented?
>Coal-burning.

0/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663553
>Citation please, history has proven otherwise due to the mass amount of lost civilizations.
The first sign that you are not to be taken seriously is your awful sentence structure.

Let me ask you two questions.

First: Where is overpopulation a problem?
Second: What defines a civilization?

I'll answer them for you.

Overpopulation is a problem in areas where poverty is such a concern that it has led to disease and starvation on a very large scale. Why, if the resources are not great enough to support the population, does the population continue to grow? It's simple. People have more children in an attempt to offset this.

A civilization is defined not by its people, but by its culture. The fall of a civilization is rarely, if ever, the result of extinction. Instead, it is (almost) always the result of a power shift which causes another culture to become dominant. In many cases, the end of an empire involves only a handful of casualties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663550
They practically worship it.

[Anonymous No.]

Because I'm in the Air Force.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663583

Once again, it's merely the truth.

The Steam Engine is one of the few methods of propulsion created by humanity that was not created out of wartime. And it is effectively steam engines that coal plants use to generate their electricity.

There is a reason that armies never adopted steam-powered vehicles beyond logistics.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not going to join an organization of murderers.

[Anonymous No.]

>Why haven't you joined the Army yet?

Enjoy dying from arabs for no sense or honor.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>7663553
>Also, "pollution" was much worse per-capita during the industrial revolution. Before the US achieved Global Supremacy. I know it's amazing, but the US army has actually invented most of "clean" energy sources we use today. Modern Hydroplants and Nuclear plants are both legacy designs from the US army.
Nuclear power has even more negative impact than coal.

Global warming will change the climate. Radiation will give everyone cancer.

Aside from that, ignoring the impact of pollution sources which are not also "energy" sources is very shortsighted. Contamination of our water has had a substantial negative impact on the quality of our seafood, while efforts to secure reliable food supplies have resulted in overuse of pesticides and herbicides which continue to have significant impact on both the environment and our health. Many environmentally questionable and nutritionally harmful techniques used to secure our food supply were implemented as a result of shortages during World War II.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663632
>peace
>☾*
Those two are mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663593
>The fall of a civilization is rarely, if ever, the result of extinction

This is only true of modern civilizations. Prior to 1000BC, it was quite possible(and even common) to wipe out civilizations through genocide. Hell, you could argue it still occurs to this day in Africa. There were over a thousand unique tribes in Africa a mere two hundred years ago. Thankfully, colonial genocide has whittled that number down to a few hundred.

>It's simple. People have more children in an attempt to offset this.

Again, citation please. If anything, wartime population growth has been proven false multiple times.

You're the one pretending to be an intellectual here, but I'm not seeing any citations. Hell, I'd even accept a Wikipedia article.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7663624
This is pretty much opinion (much like everything else ITT). I'd gladly die for my country (for my own reasons), but I can easily see why others would say it's foolish.

But in the end all that matters is your own opinions, beliefs, and ideals, right? Because that's what motivates people to live, and as a result everyone is going to live differently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663638
>Nuclear power has even more negative impact than coal.

You're dumb. Nuclear waste is utterly insignificant for the amount of power it produces. Twenty percent of the US's electricity is provided by nuclear power. The amount of nuclear waste we produce wouldn't even contaminate a small island if we pooled it together and dumped it all in one place for a hundred years.

Hell, Solar electric panels and hydroelectric plants do more damage to wildlife than nuclear waste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663638
Oh, and I looked into it more. Agricultural subsidies, which have led to declining quality in all farmed animal products and most modern health problems associated with Americans, were nonexistent in the U.S. until World War I.

Yeah, war sure is great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663659
Go kill some mexicans and then kill yourself.

For your country fo course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663648
>wartime population growth has been proven false multiple times
You are a retard. Population doesn't grow during war because everyone is dying. As soon as the war ends, the population fucking explodes.

Have you never heard of the Baby Boomers? Jesus fuck, you're more ignorant than the average southern Baptist. I'm not even going to bother responding anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663664

Yeah, it was much better when one in ten peopled starved to death.

Those were the good old days

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

Because I like having an iota of free will.

[Anonymous No.]

>Not getting a degree first so you can enter as an officer.

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>7663674
>one in ten

Grossly understated numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

If I EVER join the army, it'll be some desk job in the air force. I'm not fighting and killing for a country I believe in less and less with every passing year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663661
>Hell, Solar electric panels and hydroelectric plants do more damage to wildlife than nuclear waste.
I lied. One more response. Yeah, I've totally heard of the solar-hydro disasters of Chernobyl and Fukushima.

Never mind the fact that radioactive waste builds up over time and is not a natural part of the environment. To contrast, CO2, responsible for global warming, is a natural and necessary part of the environment which largely takes care of itself--and we still pump out so much of it that it's already having a negative impact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663670
>Baby Boomers

So, peacetime population boom brought about by renewed industrial focus is because of war.

Yes, I'm clearly the retard here, not you, who is effectively arguing my point for me.

You should read into the "baby boom". Not a whole lot of it was some magical reaction to the population loss as you claim.

Instead, it was the the GI bill that effectively gave everyone who fought subsidies to get the economy back in gear, and the end of the global depression that caused a population boom.

Naturally, peace is to blame once more. What a shocker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663659
Today you will not die for your beloved country but for interests of greedy elites. That's not fight for honor or survival like it was in WW2 (not to mention that America waited for so long before engaging so point of it was really ghostly because Soviet Union did all the job and without Germany Japan wasn't a treat), there's no honor in bashing silly unexperienced and shitty armed arabs with NATO forces and there's no honor of dying in Afghanistan fixing American mistakes because all those terrorists were fed and created by America itself.

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

>>7663689
Solar panels do require ~vast tracts of land~ since they're nowhere near theoretical efficiency yet, and dams kill fish.
He's right, you know!
And Chernobyl event(s) are statistically insignificant.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7663682
To be honest I thought about becoming an officer (civil engineer as my civilian job) but I worked hard for my stripes man. So I don't know. But maybe change could be good I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663687

If you ever join the Army and get a desk job in the Air Force I'd be impressed.

Seeing as how they are two totally different branches of the Armed Forces....

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663659
Today you will not die for your beloved country but for interests of greedy elites. That's not fight for honor or survival like it was in WW2 (not to mention that America waited for so long before engaging so the point of it was really ghostly because Soviet Union did all the job and without Germany Japan wasn't a threat), there's no honor in bashing silly unexperienced and shitty armed arabs with NATO forces and there's no honor of dying in Afghanistan fixing American mistakes because all those terrorists were fed and created by America itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663713

You might want to Google "lend Lease Act" and learn something about WW2 history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663674
Really, this is the last time. I swear.

Number of deaths for leading causes of death (2007)
Heart disease: 616,067
Cancer: 562,875
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 135,952
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 127,924
Alzheimer's disease: 74,632
Diabetes: 71,382

Those are among the leading causes of death in America. All of them have been linked to the typical American diet, which is a result of changes in food supply and eating habits caused by World War I and World War II.

I don't know, but one in ten starving to death sounds rather nicer than one in four dying of heart disease, one in four dying of cancer (also linked to your precious nuclear power~), and most of the rest dying of other dietary deficiencies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663713
>Japan wasn't a threat

Japan had the 3rd largest Navy in the world at the time and owned the Pacific for most of the war, until we got lucky at Midway.

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

>>7663720
But the Russians really did take most of the heat. He's right.
Aid to Britain != second front.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>7663689
>radioactivity
>not part of the natural environment

...

>Chernobyl and Fukushima.

Chernobyl was a result of an outdated design, haphazard at best construction, and completely illegal (by even Soviet standards) testing. Everyone and their mother knew that plant was a disaster waiting to happen, yet nobody did anything about it.

Fukushima was the result of shoddy maintenance and initial construction shortcomings due to corruption, and even at that, it took a tsunami to bring them to critical, and the meltdown was contained. Every mechanism for containing it failed, and they still contained it in large part.

If a tsunami had hit a solar panel farm, the entire ecosystem of whatever body of water that hit it would've been fatally contaminated by the heavy metals and the chemical nightmare that would've unleashed by the damage. Dams destroy entire ecosystems by diverting water flow and flooding to create reservoirs. Wind turbine generation mows down avian wildlife to a degree that bird hunters would be envious of.

Enjoy being a part of the knee-jerk, anti-nuclear cult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663689

Protip: More people died setting up the hydroplant in Niagra falls than died in all of chernobyl.

Further, Chernobyl and Fukushima are once-in-a-lifetime events. If you want to pull that bullshit, I can point out the amount of underground coal fires that have been burning for 50-100 years that still make their areas uninhabitable. Atleast you visit Chernobyl without dying.

Further, you need to learn about modern nuclear half-lifes. Yes, Nuclear Waste is dangerous for hundreds or thousands of years, but after the first ten, it's MUCH LESS dangerous. We would have to produce an astronomical amount of waste for it to be an issue. To put it in perspective, we could produce enough to power the entire planet twice over before safe disposal would be an issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663723

People die from diseases when they get old?
What a fucking shocker.

What else would you rather people die from? Homicide?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663694
>So, peacetime population boom brought about by renewed industrial focus is because of war.
Um, yes? Industrial focus is one of those really great results of war which make military the best thing ever. That's what you've been arguing this entire time. Are you daft?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663733

Most of the Russian casualties are due to the Russian Gov't press ganging civilians into their army with no training at all.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7663713
I respect your opinion Anon, but I disagree with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663735
Take everyone who was near Chernobyl during or at any point after the disaster.

Any one of them who died of cancer is also a Chernobyl fatality, but I'm pretty sure you forgot about them.

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

>>7663752
Which really makes it more impressive that they didn't collapse.

>>7663757
Deal with it, soldier boy.
I wonder which desert shithole your corporate bosses will send you to liberate next. I hope it's Iran, there's a nation of assholes if I ever heard of one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663751

You're the daft one, during wartime, industrial focus is controlled by the military. During peacetime, it goes back into civilian hands.

Then nothing gets done, and people shit out babies.

Let's get back to your original argument.
The US military is evil.

You want the US to have the technological growth of the 19th century and the population growth of the 1960s.

This sounds like the stupidest shit I've ever heard.

[Anonymous No.]

>Why haven't you joined the Army yet?
>Why aren't you smoking yet?
>Why don't you have a facebook yet?

What the fuck, /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663741
No, people die of "natural causes" when they get old. They die of disease when they're malnourished and/or consuming large quantities of toxins.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>7663766
Disease IS a natural cause for the elderly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663765
/jp/ is just trying to fit in with the cool kids.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663766

I'll be super generous and use the ridiculous Chernobyl death toll of ONE MILLION PEOPLE.

Now, it may be hard for you to comprehend, but a million people is a fucking BLIP on the radar of humanity.

A million people? That many people die in coal mines every year.

As someone else said, you've got a lovely knee-jerk reaction here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663766

Those are "Natural Causes", dumbass.

Read that pdf you're sourcing next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663765
NEET autism is old and busted. Normal cool is the new /jp/ hotness.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7663763
Wow, that was you?

Let me put it this way: in real life, you'll always be working for someone, or working with someone. You'll never know the motives of those people, and you'll never know just how much inadvertent harm (or good) you've caused by the path you take in life.

If you have to think of this constantly, then perhaps you should focus on yourself and your reasons for doing things, because in the end that's all that matters.

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

>>7663790
Caster poster? No, but he's telling the sad truth.
But hey, it's better to live in a first world faux-capitalist plutocracy than a third world shithole, so if you think about it, preserving this country isn't so bad!

[Anonymous No.]

Okay I read a little bit of this thread and saw people that supported the military, claim they were in the military or were, and trolls or butt hurts.

Just wanted to say leaving for MEPS in August and got an 85 on my MEPS and chose 12 Bravo as my MOS.I'm still in high school and have one year left. I am at a crossroad at the moment for I don't know whether to enlist in the National Guard or Army Reserves. I know they both mirror each other, but I'm worried that if I am in the National Guard it will be difficult state to state if I want to attend an out of state college. I just want a someone who will give me their opinions on which of the TWO I should join and please give some facts to.

If this was just pointless here's a link to something Touhou related.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdQ0xi1Ky5I

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

>>7663862
>I'm still in high school and have one year left.
I reported your post. You're supposed to be over 18 to browse this web sight, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663710
Oh, right. Derp.
...well, I'm never joining the army, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663873
Not who you are speak to but you know you can 18 in highschool right?

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

>>7663885
In junior year?
You'd have to have been held back at least once. Maybe twice.
How dumb can you even be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663215
But why would anyone want to become an American or fight for America?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663873
If your under 18 your not suppose to browse the SITE. Never gave my age.

[Anonymous No.]

RAF veteran here. Feels good man. All I did was monitor radar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663889
Kids in their senior year range from 17-19.

The average is usually 17 or.... 18

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663891
>correct his usage of website, which was being stupid ironic in the first place
>your

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>7663887
As an American, even I don't understand this. But I suppose the wealth of the nation is attractive to foreigners, also our domination of pop culture and such. But fighting for this place? Nah. Maybe if we get invaded I'd consider it, but probably not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663889
>browses /jp/
>dumb
You don't fucking say.

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

>>7663891
>>7663902
Look, 17-year-old Anon, you don't have to justify yourself to me. I was on this site when I was your age too.
Just try not to be so obvious about it!

[Anonymous No.]

I'd join the Navy or something because I'm getting tired of laying around all day, but I don't think they'll take me due to my immune deficiencies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663916
Whatever.

Anyways anybody got any advice?

[Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU No.]

Because I'm nothing but a coward.

No, but seriously I think I'm too old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663887

Most of the US's immigration comes from places that are infinitely worse. Mexico, the Philippines, India, Vietnam, etc.

The rest are Europeans and Canadians who are rich and tired of being taxed for being rich.

The former are the few that take up non-native enlistment.

[Anonymous No.]

The self centered delusional people here are ideal for killing others without remorse.
It's a pity about the whole 'exercise' thing

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7663805
Well, I think in the end the "truth" is what you make of it.

>>7663862
I say reserves since you mention college, as their deployments are a bit more spread out from what I've personally seen. So you won't skip as many semesters and such. But it can vary, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

Does Canada even have an army?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663954

Canada has a long-standing proud armed force. You should take more pride in your country.

Take it from an American.

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

>>7663952
Truth is by nature objective, ZUN. w/e

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663954
Well, they've got decent snipers

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>7663963
Incorrect. Fact is objective. Truth is subjective.

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

>>7663975
Name one subjective truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663966
I've always wanted to be a sniper. Problem is my eyes suck. Would they still consider me for the position if I get laser eye surgery?

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>7663985
Philosophy is clearly not your strong point.

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

>>7663990
Yeah, I slept through one ethics class once.
To reach classes that aren't "easy A" you'd need to take like three years of philosophy and fuck that noise.

Name one subjective truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>147 posts and 21 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.
Why haven't you fucktards stop replying to these weekly miltary threads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663995
It depends on your definition of "truth," but I'd say that the very fact that there isn't one concrete definition of "truth" means truth is subjective.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>7663995
At this point, we'd be arguing belief, because truth is personal. And that's a dead-end argument. Instead of questioning truth, let's just stick to facts as being objective. Even you can't argue that. For all intents and purposes, you could call this a semantics debate, and since you already have a functional result in facts = objective, there's really no point to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7664002
/jp/ wants to be a soldier.

[Anonymous No.]

>chair force

More like Not Get Shot At And Killed Force.

[Anonymous Jones-sama !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

>>7664006
>>7664010
Okay, I don't feel like arguing semantics either.
It's amusing to learn that some people think that truth isn't just "something that is true", though. The More You Know!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7664002
Why don't you try first, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7664027

To be fair to him:
>Truth: That which is true or in accordance with fact or reality

Now, normally I don't buy the subjectivity argument. Hell, I don't even buy that morality is subjective.

But you should be able to see where he's coming from. For example, a "subjective truth" could be something like. "The United States is the strongest in the world." This is easily in accordance with a number of key facts. It has the largest GDP and the most force projection in the world. On the otherhand, you could easily make the argument that it's not true either, as there are countries with larger standing armies, a faster gdp growth rate, and such. What you see as the truth would be what facts you consider important to the argument.

Of course, this is all devil's advocacy. Moral, Legal, and Factual Subjectivity are all bullshit on anything but a philosophical level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663180
How dare you call "welfare queens" to the PROUD, PATRIOTIC soldiers who defend AMERICA against the evil Islamic terrorists? Our taxes are just a small price to pay for living in AMERICA, the Land of Freedom and Justice!

Now stop building these stupid trains and stop paying Barack Hussein Obama's debt with our taxes. We like to pay them but we don't like to pay them.

/sarcasm

[Anonymous No.]

But my country has an army that consists of windmills, clogs and tulips. I am not any of these things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7663862
>>7663952

Thank you.

I been getting the same answer from most people. I'm trying to get as much information before I choose ranging from the recruits (who will lie I know), people in the military or were, assorted websites where it derailed into 1984 and flame wars, co-workers, and even 4Chan. It's nice to see someone like you on here. If I had a fucking cookie and I knew you I give you one.

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

Cryptological linguist Marine here, stealing your desk jobs.

Not that anyone cares but Marines are just like every other branch, we just happen to have the best uniforms, best training, and like to talk shit about all the other branches. Not everyone is in the infantry, that's just retarded, and by enlarge everyone is normal enough.

But the fact that everyone thinks we are psychopaths that are in it for kills is good for laughs, and for making people thinking I'm a badass when in reality I'm at a desk all day. Hell even the other branches at this base are scared of us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7664141

Type B: Glory/Respect whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>7664141
>we just happen to have the best uniforms, best training

Oh wow

[Anonymous No.]

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Goddammit, /jp/. You know the recruiters always come here for you desperate NEETs, you should know better by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7664153
Yep. From Utility uniforms to dress blues Marines are the best looking by far. Navy's and Air Force's uniforms are a fucking joke, and Army just recently has been trying to emulate our blues.

As far as training goes, if they weren't in special forces, I wouldn't trust a member of another branch to be around me with a gun.

>>7664150
Yeah pretty much. most people join Marines because of the tradition and the name, not to 'kill sandniggers'

[Anonymous No.]

>>7664141
Not as cool as the Canadian grenadier guards.

[Hotel Moé !PAgIEfHT7Y No.]

>>7663152
But I live in Canada. （　´_ゝ`）

[Anonymous No.]

>>7664181
alright i think i'll bite

think about this, you get a bunch of retards and then you make them believe that they're superior in every fucking sense, you arm them and make them believe they're super soldiers or some shit

The few
The proud
Teh Muhreens
please DI, go back to ar15.com we're just little girls what are you trying to do? are you some pedo or are you trying to recruit LITTLE GIRLS, for fuck sake you should be ashamed for trying to do that old man.

[Anonymous No.]

>Implying I'm not Combat Arms.
>Implying I Haven't been in for 4 years.
>Implying being slightly autistic won't get you far.
>Implying I'm not in Iraq right now.
>mfw I poted this when the genoraters went down.
Death before Dishonor Mother Fuckerz! And stay away from my daughteru, Cirno, you filthy fucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7664355
tg;dr

[Anonymous No.]

For all of you that are interested: the military is not a bad job, just as long you are prepared to deal with some BS, willing to work when called on and willing to get/stay in shape. Like I said, being slightly Autistic and/or intelligent (or just having common sense) can get you a long way. Put forth effort and show some hart and you'll do fine. this is true for all branches and jobs. Plus look at the current benefits/bonuses when looking at your choices too.

[Anonymous No.]

i was in the army (not from the USA)
the pay is shit.
PT is shit
the food is shit
the people are shit, it's full of rejects who openly fantasize about raping real women, not joking
having to use my own salary to buy my gear was fucking ridiculous
after the 2nd time my superior beat me up i just fucking quit
everything about it is shit

anyway they must have some really low standards if someone like me made it past the filter

[Anonymous No.]

I was in the Danish army back when you were still drafted for a year. Is that good enough in your book, OP?

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

ITT

shitposter.everywhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>7664431
Good, the mod should've banned everyone that posted in this thread without a sage.