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Sup /jp/,

Like every other afternoon, I fell asleep fapping to touhous. But this time was different.

I had a dream. A dream that Ilya was my daughter. We went to the park together, we played games, we bathed together, we slept in the same bed, when she woke up I made her eggs. It was happy dream.

I know that it's very unlikely anyone here would know and I am almost certainly wasting my time asking; but, is this what it is like to have a kid? Is it worth lowering my standards to the world of 3D to experience this? Any answers would be appreciated.

>> No.765864

adopt

>> No.765868

>>765860 A dream that Ilya was my daughter.
FUCK YOU, HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU LEAVE HER ALL ALONE WHILE YOU WENT AND PARTICIPATED IN THE HOLY GRAIL WAR

SHE WAITED FOR YOU TO COME BACK, BUT YOU NEVER DID.

SHE FUCKING WAITED FOR YOU, ONE OF THE FEW SORCERER'S LEFT IN EXISTANCE AND YOU DID NOTHING TO SEE HER AGAIN.

>> No.765875

Holy shit, I had almost the same dream, except it was Suiseiseki instead of Ilya.

>> No.765880

>>765875
Holy shit, I had almost the same dream, except it was Shirou instead of Ilya.

>> No.765884

>we bathed together, we slept in the same bed

>is this what it is like to have a kid?

No, this is what it's like to be a real life 3D pedo. Enjoy getting v&

>> No.765886

>>765868
He was going to do tha-BUT SUDDENLY MAGICAL AIDS!

>> No.765892

The fuck if I know.

>> No.765904

>>765886
He still lived with Shirou for what? 8 years?

Fuck, he had time to be with Ilya for a long time anyway.

>> No.765913

I suppose there can be fun times with a kid around... But at this day and age parents are forced into pussification to bend to their children's every demand. So they grow up as spoiled, fat and ungrateful little beasts.

>> No.765921

>>765913
Pretty much sums it up, at least in America anyways.

>> No.765926

>>765904
You know, who knows? Kiritsugu was somewhat crazy, anyway.

>> No.765935

>>765921

Nah, I don't live in Amerika, I just guess that's how it goes everywhere.

It's better to adopt a stray kid if you want someone who can appreciate the simple things in life like the company of someone who works their asses for your sake and all that.

>> No.765938

>>765926 You know, who knows?
Anyone who can remember how long they said it was in the VN.

I believe it was 8 years.

>> No.765949

>>765938
I was referring to the why he picked up Shirou instead going after his daughter.

>> No.765957

>>765949
No reason he couldn't do both.

>> No.765970

>>765957

Nope. If he had two kids they'd overpower him and kill him early.

It was better he stayed one step ahead of them.

>> No.765975

>>765970
This place sure is turning into Gaia fast

>> No.765982

>>765975

LOOOOL XD

>> No.765987

How would she like here eggs?

>> No.765995

>>765982

>> No.766001

>>765975

YOUR THO FUNNY ANONYMOUTH-THAN

>> No.766006

>>765975

No Anonymous, you are the Gaiafags

>> No.766072

>>765868

Fate/Zero.

HE FUCKING TRIED BUT THEY WOULDN'T LET HIM SEE HER NO MATTER WHAT HE DID, AND OH, HE DID A LOT OF SHIT.

>> No.766076

>>766072
So he really pissed off the Einzberns very badly. I suspected as much.

>> No.766082

>>766072
He was one of the 5 most powerful magi in existance. And they just said "lol no don't see your daughter" and he didn't?

Seriously, if you excuse him like that I want to know exactly what the fuck is wrong with you.

>> No.766105

>>766082
>He was one of the 5 most powerful magi in existence.

Yeah right, quit pulling shit out of your ass and posting it.

>> No.766108

>>766105
He was a sorcerer like Aoko, you would know this if you had, you know, read (or watched? don't remember if they mentioned it in the anime) Fate/Stay Night

>> No.766112

>>766082

One of the five most powerful magi?

Ahaha, no. Is his name Zelretch, Aoko, Roa, or 3rd Personality Shiki Ryogi? Does he have the ability to conjure up miracles on a whim? No, no he doesn't.

Besides, Kiritsugu was an honorable man. He wouldn't have just barged in and kicked their asses like that after the shit hit the fan with the 4th Holy Grail War. He wouldn't have threatened them either. He just doesn't work that way.

>> No.766125

>>766108
Magus != Sorcerer

You're an idiot or a clever troll. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt. Rin is a magus. Kotomine is a magus. Kiritsugu is a magus. Et cetera. Aoko and Zelretch are sorcerers, capable of "miracles" or "true Magic". There's a big difference.

>> No.766126

>>766108
The fuck? Do you even know what a sorcerer IS?

>>766112
>Besides, Kiritsugu was an honorable man.

You seem knowledgeable otherwise, but that's quite the lawl.

>> No.766129

>>766112
>honourable

Yes, the most honourable man to use a pistol in a knife fight.

>> No.766131

>>766112
>Zelretch
>Aoko
>Roa
>3rd Personality Shiki Ryogi
Not that I want to take part in this shit, but that's only 4 persons. Who's the fifth?

>> No.766137

>>766126
Actually, he was, but he killed his emotions for the duration of the Grail War. And no, I'm not >>766112.

>> No.766139

>>766112
>Magi... Roa, Shiki Ryogi
ಠ_ಠ
>Kiritsugu was an honorable man.
ಠ_ಠ
>>He used ruthless methods (guns, bombs, and hostages) to kill the other masters.

This is not honorable.

>> No.766144

>>766131
Only confirmed sorcerers are Zelretch, Aoko, and Justicia Einzbern. Roa's a magus, albeit a damn good one. Shiki's not a sorcerer at all.

>> No.766147

>>766144
I see, thanks.

>> No.766148

>>766129
Being a honorable man has nothing to do when you fight a WAR where people have to kill each other, no matter what.

The fact that other magi are idiots who only rely on magic is a different story.
Being ruthless to your ENEMIES does not make you less honorable.

>> No.766149

>>766125
He says he is a sorcerer himself. Go read F/S N fate route at least once.

>> No.766151

>>766148
How about swearing not to kill someone and then have your assistant shoot them instead?

>> No.766152

>>766148
Yes it does. Go learn what honourable means.

>> No.766153

>>766149
Since sometimes sorcery/magic is confues throught the game's text (I'd blame translation), Kiritsugu cannot use any of the 5 True Magics.

He is very talented as a magus, but that's it.

>> No.766154

>>766149
That's LOL MIRRORMOON.

>> No.766155

>>766153
Wel lthen PROVE ME WRO OH WAIT YOU CAN'T

>> No.766157

>>766149
Go read it in the original Japanese, faggot.

>> No.766161

>>766155
Actually, it's more of a 'Prove yourself right' situation.

>> No.766167

Yeah for some reason TakaJun translated magic/sorcery the other way round as it is commonly done. Probably to fuck with you powerlevel faggots.

>> No.766168

>>766126
>>766129

I'm actually right. He ignored his emotions and morals during the 4th Grail War because he was under the impression that he could get the Holy Grail and use it to wish away all the bad shit going on around the world and wash away his sins in the process. He was operating under the motto "sacrifices are necessary for the greater good." He was really honestly trying to save everyone that he could.

>>766131

The second two aren't even True Magic users, but they have such amazingly hax abilities they might as well be. We don't know the other three because they have not been introduced.

>> No.766170

>>766152
So, there is a man who aims to kill you, and you have to kill.

You see him randomly in the day.
He is not aware you are 5 feet behind him.

Perhaps you think honor has to do with walking to him, tapping his back and saying 'Hey, I'm planning to kill you, and I may not use just magic, so prepare yourself', but in war and fights to death, there is no place for that, it's just hypocrisy, or being conceited (or simply being stupid).

You just stab them in the back and make all the mess end somewhat faster.

>> No.766174

>>766161
Except the burden of proof is on you in this situation.

>> No.766182

>>766168
>>766170

That's called being realistic and more to the point, NOT DUMB, but it's not honorable at all. Damn, this is the whole point of F/sn; how can you be such a fanboi and still not get it at all?

>> No.766183

魔術 - Majutsu - thaumaturgy, magic (lower case)

魔法 - Mahou - miracles, Magic (upper case)

>> No.766186

>>766170
Enjoy not having any sense of honor or decency.

>> No.766188

>>766170
You have no idea, do you. At all.

>> No.766195

>>766174

Please read >>766183

>> No.766196

>>766170
I really want to say something... but in the end I have nothing really to say ...I just pity you.

>> No.766192

Sorcerer's and Magi might as well be the same thing.

You can only really say they're a True Magic User if it's said explicitly that they're a True Magic User.

>> No.766198

>>766192
Wrong. There's a bit of a translation problem, but it's easy to differentiate when you play it in moon runes.

That is, if you can read moon runes.

>> No.766201

>>766186
Honor and war(battles) DO NOT mix, simply enough.

That's what I'm saying.

There can be no decency when you are going to kill someone.

>> No.766203

>>766170
I don't know what deluded fantasy world you live in where backstabbing is honorable. That said, honor really has no place in war.

>> No.766206

>>766201
Show us a single situation where he is shown as 'honourable'.

>> No.766205

>>766201
...You're a sad little person.

>> No.766212

>>766201
Always plays an assassin like character or sniper character

>> No.766215

This thread derailed into powerlevels, then weeaboo powerlevels, and now moralfaggotry.

It's like 3 failures for the price of one.

>> No.766218

>>766215
Fuck yes that's a great deal! I'd buy that shit.

>> No.766222

>>766215 moralfaggotry
Gee, it sure is /v/ around here.

>> No.766223

>>766205
>>766206
...
You people slightly misunderstand something.

What you do during a war (even the ones in real life), does not define who you are.
When you are in a situation where you have to kill the opposition, all other matters are pointless.

You can be a honorable, or peace loving man, but when the situation is forced at you or have to do it for any other purpose, bringing these things into the fight is pointless.

What you do during the conflict does not reflect who you are.

That's all I'm saying.

>> No.766220

>>766186
Moral fag detected, aka giant faggot pussy.

Enjoy your monthly period, faggot.

>> No.766224

>>766223
...You're a sad little person.

>> No.766230

>>766224

When you run out of arguments, it's better to stay quiet.

>> No.766231

>>766223
And you're wrong.

There's nothing else to say, you're just wrong.

>> No.766229

>>766223
God damn, you're denser than Robin. He doesn't have to do any of the things he does. He can easily just opt-out of the whole thing. Everything he does in the war DOES define him, because he chooses to participate.

>> No.766237

>>766230
Learn what an argument is before you use the word to describe anything.

>> No.766239

>>766229
He did it out of love; does that make it any better?

>> No.766243

>>766229
I'm not talking about just Kiritsugu here (and who do you mean by saying Robin?).

>> No.766247

>>766168

Listen to this man. Kiritsugu was normally a completely honorable person. He thought he was working for the greater good. He really did want to save the world, but he knew nothing would have worked out if he just followed his normal code of ethics. He had to win, and once he did he thought he could set everything right again.

But lol Kotomine and Angry Manjew.

Maybe "honorable" wasn't the right word to choose, but really, he was a good guy at heart, and that's all that matters when it comes right down to it.

>> No.766248

>>766243
Well, we're talking about Kiritsugu, what the fuck are you talking about Robin?

>> No.766250

>>766229

He could opt out and, what? Let those magi keep killing themselves and dragging more and more people into their battles? Someone had to bitchslap the Masters upside their heads eventually. Kiritsugu's doing it for us. For the world.

>> No.766255

>>766247 he was a good guy at heart
To Shirou yes, anyone else? No.

Didn't even visit Ilya.

>> No.766261

>>766255

ಠ_ಠ

>> No.766263

So, what? To Kiritsugu, the ends justify the means? He can be as cold hearted a bastard he wants to be so long as he gets to wish everything to happyland?

>> No.766265

>>766250
And then he destroyed half of the town.

>> No.766270

>>766263
They're arguing that he's honorable.

>> No.766272

>>766265

Oh, I loved that part.

>> No.766275

>>766263
Could anyone else do it? Was anyone else aiming for that? If no then the answer is yes.

>> No.766276

>>766265
Yeah, the Grail was a bitch.

>> No.766288

>>766275
Ryunosuke was going to do it.

>> No.766295

>>766263

Yeah. Pretty much. Being retarded isn't evil.

But yeah, fuck it. You win.

>> No.766324

>>766263
The only ones he attacked and involved (as I am aware of) were the ones directly involved with the conflict.
'End justifies the means' is more like Caster or Shinji who would kill unrelated people to accomplish what they want.

Don't confuse that with being ruthless to enemies.

>> No.766367

>>766324

Concede already. All of this bullshit started over a slightly inappropriately used term that some retarded faggot decided to point out as wrong. I'm just glad the point that he's not a fucking True Magic User or anywhere close to that level of power and the fact that he actually tried to see Ilya got across.

>> No.766370

>>765987
She liked them scrambled.

>> No.766374

8.5/10

>> No.766378

>>766367 he actually tried to see Ilya got across.
Except he didn't

>> No.766383

>>766367
Why the fuck do you people judge everything with a Knight's code or commoner's everyday life sense, when it comes to war and killing people in conflicts, I won't understand.
But I won't discuss it anymore.

>> No.766387

>>766383
That's because you are a sad little person with no shred of honor or decency.

>> No.766393

>>766383
>a Knight's code

Because that's what "honorable" means, you twat. Nobody's saying Kiritsugu is an idiot or a monster or anything, but he is NOT a honorable person, quite to the contrary. He gave up being honorable in favor of getting shit done, what so hard to understand about that?

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>>766378

>> No.766396

>>766393 what so hard to understand about that?
He's a sad little person with no shred of honor or decency.

>> No.766422

>>766396
No, knight's code is plain stupidity.

When you are killing someone (something you should not normally do), honor can't apply, it's empty.

I don't have a shred of decency, because when I would have to kill, I wouldn't give my opponent a chance, it's something retarded.

Keep believing that you can actually kill with honor.

>> No.766426

>>766422
You are a sad little person with no shred of honor or decency.

>> No.766443

>>766426
...
Boings.

>> No.766733

>>766072
>>HE FUCKING TRIED BUT THEY WOULDN'T LET HIM SEE HER NO MATTER WHAT HE DID, AND OH, HE DID A LOT OF SHIT

Why has there been no comically failing doujin of this yet?

>> No.767428

>>766255
>>766072

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