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There is an abundance of shitty threads right now, let's have another Touhou gameplay thread.

Have you cleared any extras? I recommend to anyone who has not fought Koishi yet to try and reach her. This extra boss is one of the most enjoyable fights in Touhou. Plus great imagery (Roses!) and Youkai Hartmann Girl

>> No.7497406
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I'd like to try fighting her, but I'm pretty shit tier at the games. I'm still trying to 1cc SA and UFO but they're too hard so I haven't played them for about a month. That and I've been working on the extras of the games I have managed to beat.

>> No.7497411

I'm still practicing clearing normal.

I've done it once or twice, using a continue. All of my shame.

>> No.7497421

The first extra I ever beat was Koishi, followed by Flandre. Nothing else, though.

>> No.7497425

>>7497411
Don't give up! You will be able to 1CC eventually.

Personally I am attempting PCB on Lunatic. I can make it to Ran, but only with 2 lives left on my last continue.

>> No.7497427

>>7497425
>Lunatic
>Ran
you mean Yuyuko, don't you.

>> No.7497429
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I've cleared Flandre and Mokou. But that's only because SA and IN are the only Touhous I really play
Though Ex Keine is probably the best boss in all of Touhou...

>> No.7497435

>>7497397

I always got raped at Koishi's 1st or 2nd spellcard, so I rage uninstalled.

Same shit with Nue.

That said, I haven't cleared any of the extras.

>> No.7497437

>>7497425
I know what you mean, I'll never really give up, but it seems that as soon as I get a hang on Cirno, I'm getting fucked up by Sakuya.

>> No.7497442

I'm really close to 1 cc'ing Suwako and Mokou, I got to the last tenth of Mishaguji-sama, I just needed one more life, fuck.

>> No.7497446

>>7497406
you now can't unsee her left fist

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>>7497421
>The first extra I ever beat was Koishi
I still don't understand how this is possible. Have you just not played any of the others much?

>> No.7497455

>PCB extra

This is stupid fucking hard for some reason. Even just getting up to Chen without wasting lives/bombs is requiring a frustrating amount of practice. It feels much harder than IN extra was, even though the stage itself is much shorter.

>> No.7497457

>>7497427
Maybe ;_;

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>>7497453

Maybe it was magic? I dunno, everyone has different experiences when it comes to how easy or difficult certain parts of the game are. All of you make it seem as if Koishi is some sort of super danmaku machine. I kind of want to fight her, but I can't in my current state. Orin and her crazy movements and Utsuho and her intimidating bullets still get me.

>> No.7497462

>>7497453
And I still don't understand why you think Koishi is hard. Her nonspells are even more trivial than Flandre's and her only remotely menacing cards are Rorschach in Danmaku, Genetics, the survival card and that fucking Rose. The rest is pie

>> No.7497469

>>7497462

That's just like, you man. To this day I can't get past her first spellcard without bombing the shit out of it.

>> No.7497475

I'm close to finish IN Extra, I already reach her second last spell.
Also trying to 1cc MoF soon (on normal) and after that I want to clear Suwako's Extra. Is she harder or weaker compared to Mokou? It's the only Extra Stage Boss I have experience with.

>> No.7497479

>>7497469
>bombing the shit out of it

That's like, not how you learn, bro.

>> No.7497480

>>7497462
I've explained this before, but it's mostly because the cards are somewhat tricky when you're learning them, and you have absolutely no resources to learn them with, especially on the first few cards.
And yeah, it's a bit of an exaggeration I guess, but when I had like 27 or so first-midboss-spellcard-attempts on Suwako, and one hundred and everloving nineteen on Koishi, it's a bit of a jarring thing.

>>7497469
You're either going to want to move to the exact center of the screen, or sit on top of the E or y in Enemy in order to dodge certain pillars, just memorize when that is. The red bullets should be pretty easy to dodge.

>>7497455
Well, IN does have a very easy stage, disregarding Keine and that dang last fairy.

>> No.7497485

>>7497475
With bombs? Fairly reasonable. Without? Hellish until you can manage the survivals...

>> No.7497490

I'm gonna take a break from Touhou for a while. Going through the same stages over and over gets frustrating, especially for someone like me who must follow goals he set for himself (in gaming that is, not real life...). I find that finally achieving the goal isn't that satisfying.

>> No.7497495

>>7497490
Maybe you could try getting /fit/.

You know, regular exercise does radically increase your concentration skills.

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I've beaten Flandre and Suwako, and I really want to face Koishi. I just can't get over that 1cc normal hurdle. Every time I start on what seems like an awesome run, I always start not-bombing when I need to or jumping stupidly into a bullet's path thinking I'm going to just graze the edge of it. It's stupid, since I know all the bosses' spellcards and how to beat them.

>> No.7497500

>>7497490
Yeah, honestly if you don't find the journey enjoyable then the reward of completion is not going to be worth it. I find the attempts somewhat frustrating, but overall entertaining and sometimes fun, and rarely very emotional.

>> No.7497510

>>7497480
The secret to the final doomfairy in IN extra stage is to play Border of Easy Team and wedge yourself in the bottom left corner of the screen as far as you can go. Not a single bullet will touch you.
marisacantmakereimuorgasmbecausesmallhitbox.jpg

>> No.7497513

>>7497495
I should, but it requires too much effort.
I'm a terrible procrastinator.
>>7497500
Maybe I'm just jaded from playing so much PCB lately. I do enjoy stages 5 and 6, however rarely I get to them without restarting.

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>>7497510

>> No.7497524

>>7497520
Thank you. I'm horrible at remembering doujin titles, so it woulda been a long search through my folder to find that one.

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I still have to beat Suwako, but I haven't even started because I can't find the motivation to do it.

And yes, Koishi was one of the most entertaining extra bosses.

oh, and FUCK YOU RORSCHACH

>> No.7497553

This is perhaps a bit off-topic, but does anyone happen to have a bee locations map for DoDonPachi? Or DOJ, though that's certainly less important.

>>7497510
Well dang.

>> No.7497576

>lose 2 lives to Meiling

Why does it feel like there were more bullets than normal in her colourful rain pattern? ;_;

>> No.7497619

>>7497576
Rank, possibly.

>> No.7498536
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another fun Extra boss: Marisa in GFW. I've beaten her about 8 times now, her fight is like crack

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I've only beaten one Extra Boss ever...
And even then I could only do it once.

>> No.7498568

I beat MOF's Extra for the first time two days ago, with Reimu B. It took me like 3 hours and I used like 8 bombs on the last spell card because I was tired of dying there every.fucking.single.time.

Score: 247580690

It's the second Extra I've completed, the first one being IN's.

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My data was wiped, so I obviously went back and kicked her ass again recently, and then yesterday, and then earlier today. I captured subterranian rose for the first time yesterday, but still haven't captured that bullshit genetics of the subconcious.

More pleasant is my SA normal 1'cc as all the cards show 1/1 (exceptions: Green eyed jealousy, fucking Cats walk, another Orin card, and Okuu's second card).

Nue was the first EX boss I beat (and the first game I 1cc'd on normal was UFO).

Then Koishi

I'm working on Suwako presently, after having 1cc'd the game just hours ago for the first time ever--Kanako raped my shit hard, but that's what I get for using Reimu A and not Marisa C.

>> No.7498678

I've been trying to beat Nue lately. Going pretty well. That being said, fuck Yorimasa Genzanmi and his bow.

>> No.7498679

Never beaten any Extra stages; I'm still working towards my first 1CC of a game on Hard. Nearly did it too, got to Eirin's final spellcard twice and died. Such is life.

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>Have you cleared any extras?
Alle

>> No.7498689

I agree that extras are the funnest. I always see to enjoy the memorization aspect of TH games the most.

>> No.7498712

I've been working on PCB extra lately, but the whole stage up to ran just feels ridiculously hard compared to all the other extras. I'm wasting far too many resources getting to ran for my performance on her to matter yet.

So far the extra stages that I have finished are IN, MoF, SA and FW. I have attempted all the windows ones except EoSD, which I still can't unlock it despite being able to 1cc SA and FW on hard.

>> No.7498728

I enjoyed SA extra stage, it was good fun. I keeping fucking on Subconscious "Rorschach in Danmaku" because I just can't seem to get the pattern right for some reason. I've cleared every Extra Stage except EoSD (because I haven't played it with the intention to clear it) and UFO (because I just haven't got around to it recently).

I think I enjoyed clearing PCB Phantasm Stage the most though, the music was good, the spell cards looked great and it was a hard but enjoyable stage. I disagree with some people than Ran was harder than Yukari, I didn't think that at all .

>> No.7498753

>>7498678
Sounds like you're carrying a grudge against that last card.

>> No.7498767

I love IN to the core.

>> No.7498777

>>7498753
I see what you did there.

>> No.7498829

LLS extra stage is fun. Maybe we should do a round of that next danmaku thread.

>> No.7498833

>>7498728
>I keeping fucking on Subconscious "Rorschach in Danmaku"

Freudian slip?

>> No.7498843

>>7498833
help I want to beat embers of love but I just can't stop myself from touching those big, meaty bullets

>> No.7498972

So, how do I get past the IN Extra stage? I've done it before but usually I suffer a lot of casualties. I also seem to die a lot against Keine even though I know how to beat her spellcards, I'm just not very good with the execution. I don't know why, but I know how to get through most of it but I can't actually make it work.

>> No.7498998

>>7498972
There's always spell practice.

>> No.7499003

>>7498972
Just practice, I guess.

>> No.7499004

>>7498998

It's not just Keine's spells that get me though. It's the entire damn stage. And I keep dying to stupid stuff. Far more than in anything else. I don't see how any sees IN extra as one of the easiest, I just don't.

>> No.7499017

>>7499004

Deathbombs.

>> No.7499024

>>7499017

Those deathbombs are hurting me more than helping me. I'd like not to lose two bombs on deathbomb.

>> No.7499032

>>7499004
>And I keep dying to stupid stuff.

Stupid stuff as in things you know you should be too good to die to?

If so you could probably use some time off to get rid of your bad habits, play something else to clear your head for a while.

Otherwise just practise more, memorise more, deathbomb better and so on.

>>7499024
If you don't deathbomb you lose the bombs anyway, and a life.

>> No.7499051

>>7499004

Use Border team. First half of the stage is trivial, second half is easy with one or two planned bombs. Get better at Keine and enter the bossfight with full lives.

>> No.7499056

>>7499032

Stupid stuff as in something I have gotten through before with no problem, but still die to anyways. It switches what destroys me often. As for the bomb, I do use it. But I find EoSD, PCB, MoF and FW extras much more manageable since I don't need to worry about losing double bombs on deathbomb.

>> No.7499059

>>7499051

I can't even beat the game with Border team. Everyone says they're easy too but the last time I used them, I did worse than with solo Reimu. I picked SDM team since I'm so used to it.

>> No.7499065

>>7499056
Well you're either out of practise, or overworked and in need of a break.

If it's the first then try not to try to get back into it too quickly and end up with both problems.

>> No.7499077

>>7499059

Reimu for most enemies, Yukari for familiar cluster fairies. Reimu's homing eliminates most threats before they fire anything dangerous and Yukari ends the big guys before they get dangerous too. The only difficult part is the end of the stage with the long streams of various fairies. It's not bad if you let points fall off the screen but Reimu's bomb will work quite well to collect them and stay safe as well.

Border team is only bad if you stay focused too much. Reimu's quite good in most situations, and Yukari's lock-on will deal with big targets very nicely.

>> No.7499094

>>7499065

I am out of practice, but I've found myself doing better lately in everything that isn't IN. Maybe it's just that game.

>>7499077

Even so, I don't like it. It should be easy with all that homing but I find myself getting destroyed. Maybe it's that Marisa fight, I've hardly ever fought against Marisa while I have some experience against Reimu. But I don't feel like beating it again.

>> No.7499505

Lunatic UFO is the only thing I have yet to not clear in the touhou series. Id have more motivation if two consecutive deaths power raping you didn't end runs so quickly, fucking thing is worse than dai ou jou in that regard. (1-ALL with TLB clear get recently)

>> No.7499539

>>7499505
Wot, you did a 1-loop run? That's... impressive, admittedly, but kinda disappointing.

>> No.7499567

>implying Touhou 6 works

>> No.7499570

>>7499539
Only hard part is doing the stages with enough no fuckups for the TLB, if you can 1cc any Lunatic outside MoF you could probably 1-ALL without the TLB

>> No.7499576

>>7499505
Don't you have to do a 2 loop run to get the TLB?

>> No.7499585

>>7499576
DOJ lets you pick.

>> No.7499587

>>7499570
Eh, perhaps. I'm working on DDP at the moment though.

>> No.7499594

>>7499576
You can hit the requirements for the TLB in a 1 loop run in black label

>> No.7499596 [DELETED] 

>>7499594
Only if you select 1-loop at the beginning though, right?

>> No.7499612

>>7499587
How far have you gotten? I've been playing on and off for a couple years (mostly off) but I still can't qualify for loop 2 and I'm bad at chaining anything.

>> No.7499618

I'm surprised more people haven't beaten MoF extra. I'm fucking terrible at these games and I can clear it consistently.

>> No.7499631

>>7499618

That just means I'm worse at it than you, duh. I did manage to capture that Iron Ring card today though, I was really surprised.

>> No.7499637

I suck so much that I can't even unlock Koishi's stage ;_;
SA is the only game I haven't 1cc'd on normal...

>> No.7499641

>>7499570
I'm pretty close to a 1 loop clear with no TLB. Anything past that is like a sheer wall to climb though.

>> No.7499656

>>7499612
2-2 is the furthest Ive gotten in DDP, 2-4 in DOJ, things seem to snowball into failure after the first death faster in DDP than DOJ, probably due to hypers.

>> No.7499678

>>7499612
I've only just barely gotten to stage 5, still need to work on not dying with 5 full bombs in stock, especially in the middle of a boss fight when I'm using a shot type.... eugh.

>> No.7499692

>>7499656
I just run into stuff less in DOJ. Maybe it's the higher resolution. I swear the hitboxes are smaller too. And it only uses a couple bullet types at a time, instead of like "all of them at once" on DDP-6 which often screws with my reflexes.

>> No.7499704

>>7499692
Dunno, hypers counter the power penalty pretty well, as well as acting as a rechargeable bomb outside of bosses.

>> No.7499735

>>7499637
Same here. I once get to Stage 6, and got pretty much raped by :
-The crows the first time, stupid mistake.
-Okuu the next time.

Haven't tried again yet...

>> No.7499756

>>7499735
Of course you'll get raped the first time.

>> No.7499762

>>7499756
How do I get out of Stage 5 without losing the two/three lives that I managed to save? ;_;

>> No.7499768

>>7499735
Same here, got to okuu on the first no focus no shoot reimuC attempt then realized "Oh shit okuu no focus no shoot in a porsche is harder than it looks"

>> No.7499927

>>7499762
Like this anon
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=14357

>> No.7499999

The extra boss (Marisa) in Great Fairy Wars was probably the best Extra Boss game I've ever played.. Its because:

1. Long Extra Boss Stage is looooong
2. I can freeze bullets like a BOSS!
3. Its kinda tricky that you need a drink before you play (Not that hard but not that easy either).
4. Cirno!

>> No.7500060

>>7499999
You son of a bitch.

>> No.7500078

I'm trying to beat my first extra, which one is the easiest? Flandre or Mokou?

>> No.7500085
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I'm so bad at Touhou, I've been playing for years and have yet to unlock and/or clear an extra stage.

>> No.7500086

>>7500078
Mokou is hard if you don't abuse Spellcard practice. Otherwise she's the easiest after Suwako.

>> No.7500097

>>7500078
Flan, or Mokou if you use spell practice and learn all her tricks. Flan is much more fun, I think.

>> No.7500099

>>7500085
try IN, usually I can't 1cc normal anything but IN was the first and only game I've 1cc'ed and unlocked extra.
barely got to mokou in the extra level

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>>7499999

Strongest!

>> No.7500120

>>7500085
So you haven't cleared one normal mode? It sounds like you haven't been trying very hard. IN and MoF clears are within anyone's reach unless they have a debilitating condition.

>> No.7500122

>>7499999

Tsch.

>> No.7500131

>>7500085
Try Mystic Square, it's pretty easy once you get used to playing PC-98.
>>7500060
>>7500107
>>7500122
Reported.

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What's the easiest (windows) Touhou on lunatic? From the perspective of stage/boss difficulty, not which one is easiest to bomb through.

Kinda seems like PCB, but I've only been to stage 4 in any of them.

>> No.7500759

>>7500747
Mystic Square. The only hard boss is Stage 5 and the stages are pretty easy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50KyMInt0VE

>> No.7500761

i played the ten desires demo using sanae and was about to clear the last spell card but then the game crashed, welp i hope you enjoyed my touhou gameplay story

>> No.7500764

>>7500759
I just said windows! But that's ok, I might start with MS since it's such a great game.

>> No.7500767

>>7500764
Oops, didn't see windows. PCB is the easiest windows game on lunatic, since it doesn't change that much.

>> No.7500785

>>7500120
I'm not so sure of this.

MoF was the very last touhou game I 1cc'd on normal, even UFO, SA, and EoSD had been completed by the time I finally managed to get through MoF.

Aya's cards are particularly problematic unless you're accustomed to dodging shit loads of bullets in every direction, she's probably the hardest stage 4 in any touhou game.

Though I can't really gauge their difficulty in any adequacy, as all of Aya's cards are simple for me to capture barring I think her first one with the shit loads of blue bullets.

>> No.7500810

>>7500785
IN has even harder stage 4 bosses, but Aya is leagues beyond Murasa and Satori, they just don't have those bullshit unfair attacks.

>> No.7500861

>>7500785
Yeah but you have bombs. The context was someone having never unlocked an extra stage, there was nothing about quality of runs there. My first MoF clear was a horrible bombfest.

I know MoF kind of makes you pretend you can't bomb through every single boss attack because otherwise it's a complete farce but if there are a few parts that are really getting you (a certain bird) just let it rip.

>> No.7500872

>>7500810
Aya's too hard to make up for every other boss being too easy

>> No.7501050

>>7500810

I dunno, I've had more trouble with Satori than any other stage 4 boss. Double Black Death Butterfly is the most evil stage 4 spellcard I have ever had to face. Sure, it's just a ripoff of Yukari's that I've never even faced before, but it's just ridiculous. Border of Wave and Particle also gives me some trouble. Stage 4 Reimu honestly isn't that bad for the most part, and is extremely fun to boot.

>> No.7501078

I envy you guys for being able to stand up to Extra bosses... I've only ever beaten Yuyuko...

...using all my continues...

...on easy...

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>>7501050
Satori's version is awful cramped up sudden death. She ruined a fun spellcard.

>> No.7501100

>>7501095

That spellcard was supposed to be FUN? I can't believe it. You make me want to go beat Ran now just to make sure you aren't lying because I absolutely hate curved bullets from behind.

>> No.7501121

>>7501100
Here it is if you don't mind seeing it. Ran has a spell a lot like it, but easier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h80lMdz_GKs

I had to look through 4 videos before I found someone who didn't border break it like a cowardly man. Girls don't border break.

>> No.7501135

>>7501121

It does seem easier. I think Unilateral Contact is Ran's version, which I still hate because of my massive weakness to curved bullets from behind. People complain about curvy lasers, I complain about those.

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i beat the extra stage in POFV, if that counts...

>> No.7501164

>>7501144

PoFV has an extra stage? I never knew that. I hardly even play PoFV because I don't really care for it. Great, now I have to play it.

>> No.7501167

>>7497411
You're not alone. I still have to graduate from 1CCing on easy mode, and the only ones I've 1CCed on easy have been Embodiment, PCB, Imperishable and Phantasmagoria. All the rest are way too difficult, and on UFO I spend my first continue since stage 3.

This is what happens when all your life you've been clearing your games on easy mode because you're so thin-skinned you don't even like to lose a videogame. I literally stopped doing that until 2009 when I subscribed to the Dwarf Fortress school of "losing is so much fun!" and the Touhou school of "EEEEHHHH MAJI!? EASY MODO!? KIMO!!!".

>> No.7501173

>>7501167

You could just jump right into Normal mode if you want. Admittedly I didn't and still don't like losing either, but I had too much pride to go down to easy mode even though I couldn't beat Nazrin on normal my first time playing. My progress has been extremely slow, but that's because I only play an hour a week approximately, so I only have about 10-12 hours for most of the Windows games excluding PoFV. I have managed to 1cc a few games on Normal though, so even with little playtime I am getting better.

>> No.7501174

Just managed to capture double black death butterfly for the first time. Feelin' pretty good.

>> No.7501175

>>7501173
Play more, it's not like you have anything better to do.

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>>7501175

My lack of patience with losing is why I don't play more than an hour a week. I get all shaky and tired and all that once I lose after a good run so I can't take much more and need a rest to be able to process spellcards and whatnot. Perhaps I'm frail or something, but that's just how it is.

>> No.7501260

>>7501190
Adrenaline can be draining. I don't like doing "real" runs too much because of that. Lots of practice and ones with no expectation of winning.

>> No.7501269

>>7501260

Well, for me the expectation of winning is always in me even when I try to think against it. It's probably not very good since this affects me in other games as well. Fortunately I find other games much easier than Touhou so I don't lose nearly as often in those.

>> No.7501299

>>7500761
You need to observe the boss while she sucks in spirits. If you defeat her right in the moment when she heals herself, it will - probably - crash.

>> No.7501618

Just did a no death/no bomb run of SA Normal. Replay for anybody struggling with this game, I guess:

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=14361

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>>7498829
that one and SoeW extra are the ones I have yet to clear. They make me nervous as shit. And the stages prior to them are NASTY!
Mystic Square extra on the other hand is manageable and great fun

>> No.7503215

>>7500078
Ran is fairly easy and the stage is easy once you learn where to position yourself. I used magic missile Marisa and you can clear most enemies before they fire too many shots.

>> No.7503263

>>7502093
Neither took that long, but LLS seemed easier to me. It's mostly memorizing, but it's not that strict about it either, and it never gets too hard once you know what to do.

SoEW though hoo boy. That's a "forget anything and die" one. I did it in a few hours of painful grinding. I was so mad by the end.

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Yeah, I think I'm gonna quit SA forever. I've been set back by damn months in that game while I'm getting better at the other games. It can just go to hell.

>> No.7503290

>>7502093
SoeW's extra stage is almost impossible to clear without double tapping

>> No.7503320

The only extras I have left to clear on the windows games are 9 and 12.8. Little progress is being made in either: 9 is too random to have consistent progress, so I'm waiting to luck out on most of the fights; 12.8 I need to figure out what to do against test slave and big crunch, although at least I have my strategy for the level figured out now.

I've managed to 1cc SA on hard, but all other hard mode runs are proving difficult. Furthest progress towards another hard mode 1cc is in IN, having died on Astrological Entombing a few times.

I've been trying out Seihou lately too, although that game is an asshole. I can get to stage 4 in the third one without continues, but there's a lot of bullshit I'll need to memories to get further than that.

>> No.7503324

>>7503290
I don't remember it being important except on that one part with the blobby fuckers that fill the screen. Some boss stuff was too hard to dodge while tapping (I suck) so I just held down and didn't worry about it.

>> No.7503335
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Anybody else ever try Samidare's Extra?

>> No.7503339

>>7503335
I tried it, yes. Never ever going there, if I hear that intro theme one more fucking time...
I don't even know what they are saying - THIS WAY THIS WAY?

>> No.7503344

Finally 1 cc'd MoF without using Marisa B-ugged last night, woohoo! I know it's nothing big, but I'm still damn happy that all those practice runs weren't in vain.

Also finally got to Okuu in normal mode, but died due to panic and overexcitement. Any tips I should know about fighting her? Also, how do I avoid losing 4 lives fighting THAT DAMN CAT? I've bombed all I could and I still only barely managed to not lose...

>> No.7503349

>>7503335
Beat it some years back. Replayed it later for better score. It's pretty fun but the fact that it's heavily memorization based can turn a lot of people off.

>> No.7503354

>used to playing as Reimu B
>trying out Sakuya A for the first time in a while
>beat old high score, get further than I get with Reimu or Marisa (usually, but not the furthest I've been)
>suddenly, get absolutely raped by the Poltergiests because they're using patterns not only new because I've never gotten to them with Sakuya, but I've never seen anything like them in a Touhou game ever

Holy shit. Does anyone come to really like a character for their type of shot, only to realize latter that the type specific boss patterns verge on impossible and give up on that type?

>> No.7503355

>>7503335
I didn't unlock it yet. I played it for 3 hours after the danmaku thread and didn't manage to clear it. I felt able, but by the end I was in that shit zone where I would die to random enemies on the first stage that I never had a problem with before. So I kept playing for another angry hour and then stopped.

>> No.7503356

Okay, I'm over my frustration now...How do you get over the extreme memorization in SA? I can't be assed to play practice mode a thousand times just so I can get past a single stage.

>> No.7503364

>>7503354
Don't worry about typing complete sentences here. We won't get ADD before the end of a single paragraph.

>> No.7503373

>>7503364
Sorry for the format, but I'm sort of in a bit of a rush here. Playing PCB was sort of procrastination.

If it's worth anything, I'm using nokosage constantly, because I have a fear of bumping anything with a shitpost.

>> No.7503375

>>7503354

I have a case of that in SA, although it's less of I found a shot type I love the most and more of a case of I found the shot type I hate the least. God dammit SA I hate your shot types so damn much yet the one that sucks the least is given bullshit spellcards and I'm just tired of it.

>> No.7503399

>>7503339
Quite possibly, given the song's title and all. That would make sense... never thought about it before.

>>7503349
Yeah, and the scoring is really really weird too, like how you can boost your score by like 1/8 of the max by killing two enemies in a certain way.

>> No.7503578

>>7503356
Watch a replay instead so you don't have to do it yourself. >>7501618

>> No.7504886

If I keep getting hit while trying to go through the "walls" in Sakuya's first noncard, how much of this is go-install-vsync and how much of this is me being terrible?

>> No.7504890

>>7503578

I have a replay already. It didn't help very much sadly. SA is the only game I've had to break down and watch replays for and it still wasn't much good.

>> No.7504914

>>7504886
It's a vertical dodge where you don't have to move.. bu the lag can still fuck you up getting into position in time. There's no compelling reason to play without it.

>> No.7504940

Extra I've cleared so far:
EoSD, PCB, IN.
Now trying MoF and it's fucking hard, I barely can get to Suwako.

>> No.7504983

>>7504890
Then upload your own replay for critique.

>> No.7504995 [DELETED] 

>>7503356
SA doesn't have much that memorization. Only with Parsee and Orin, really.

>> No.7505003

>>7503356
SA doesn't have that much memorization, except for Orin and Parsee.

>> No.7505051

>>7504983

Maybe another day. SA really fucking hates me today. Dying to stage one like it's my first time playing multiple times, it's horrible.

>> No.7505094

>>7498682
Don't remind me of that guy's videos...

My mind still hasn't recovered.

>> No.7505181

>>7505094
And I bought his DVD.

>> No.7505196

>>7504983

Okay, I finally got a replay that wasn't complete ass, but it's still not my best sadly. Laugh at it, give tips and whatnot, either way is fine.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=14373

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>>7505196
Stage 1/2:
From the beginning I can tell you play very, very cautiously. Like, double digit graze in the entire first stage cautiously. You make it through these first two stages without any deaths or bombs, though, so I guess I can't say much.

Stage 3:
Perfect other than the bomb on Yuugi's last noncard, which is fine since it's a jerk if you don't know the correct positioning, which I don't even get right all the time.

Stage 4:
You handle the stage portion very well, bombing when you got stuck. But then Satori slapped your shit. Her noncards are static, so that first bomb was kinda derp, but better than dying. You should never need to spend more than one bomb on Double Black Death Butterfly. Keep an eye on everything around you and recognize where walls are going to be. Red goes right, blue goes left. You shouldn't have tried to dive under that red wall of butterflies. During Flying Insect's Nest, the edges are a bad place to be since the gaps are increasingly smaller. The butterflies are aimed and come in groups. Listen to the audio queues so you know when it's safe to change directions. Border of Wave and Particle is 100% static. You should know when to expect solid waves of bullets and when you need to dodge to the right to move around them completely. I understand that it's kinda fast for novice players, but this should be offset by the fact that it can be completely memorized. 4 lives lost to the 3 Recollection spell cards. Ouch.

>> No.7505424

Stage 5:
Again, stage portion handled well, excluding the midboss spellcard Cat's Walk. The close bullets with lots of horizontal movement make this an autobomb for most people going for their first clear. I could never condone bombing something without giving it a try, but you might give the idea some thought. Don't stop shooting for too long during the post-midboss popcorn. Letting the wandering spirits live will quickly clutter up your screen with popcorn. You made it through fine, but it made me nervous. For Zombie Fairy, don't stop shooting as the spell starts. You're missing a big opportunity to do some damage before the fairies actually become active. I saw you try to misdirect the fairies, but your positioning was all wrong, unless you were only misdirecting them enough to be able to get through the card with one bomb. Second noncard, the bullets are aimed at you. Never move parallel with the movement of aimed bullets unless you want to eat them all. Watch my replay to see a very easy way to cheese this entire noncard. So much panic during Spleen Eater. The card is very slow paced. Wait warmly and get your pacing right and this should be no problem. Ghost wheels are aimed at your position when the sound is made, so you should know where they are headed. Bombing through it is fine too, I guess. The fairies follow you in Rekindling of Dead Ashes. If you're trying to damage Orin, it's probably a bad idea to lure them right in front of you where they'll get in your way. More lives gone, didn't bother to count.

Stage 6:
Stage portion is easy mode, so I have nothing to say there (yet). Utsuho's first couple spell cards are her hardest, but since you didn't get too far with her, I figure the issues with stages 4 and 5 deserve more attention.

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Overall:
For a game where 95% of the bullets are aimed directly at you, you sure move around a lot. You end up spreading out aimed patterns with your sweeping motions, leading you to also use ReimuA's gap ability at seemingly inappropriate times, as seen in... pretty much every stage. You met Satori with 8 lives, but completely fell apart for the second half of the game. If at any point you don't feel confident, bomb. There was only a single instance where you died with less than 1.00 power. If you want to be more confident, play stages 4 and 5 in practice mode to become more familiar with what Satori and Orin have to throw at you.

SA is a game of graze and small, confident movements. Slow streaming alone will get you through most of the game. Stop moving so much, bomb more, enjoy your 1cc.

>> No.7505457

>>7505421
>>7505424

I kind of get it. Flying Nest I can capture sometimes, but I'm inconsistent with it. I'm something around 4/15 with it or something of the sort. During my best run I managed not to lose 4 lives on Satori, but I did lose 5 on Utsuho, 3 of them on her Blazing Star spellcard, but I don't have a replay of that. I usually do attempt Cat Walk, but I've only ever captured it once and it makes me panic often so usually I have to bomb. Everything else on Orin is a bomb for me, I have tried to play through it but it never works out even though I've been shown the strategy through replays.

Admittedly I used to play a lot of Reimu B before I quit using it because it was such a terrible shot type that I could only barely beat Satori with it, I don't have too much experience with Reimu A. Usually I play shot types that are considered easy. Marisa B in EoSD, Sakuya A in PCB, SDM team in IN, Reimu A in MoF and Sanae A in UFO. I have no such shot in SA so I go for Reimu A because I find the other shot types either much more annoying to use or much worse to the point that it's better off not using them.

>> No.7505480

>>7505457
>3 of them on her Blazing Star spellcard
Never die twice to a spellcard (or noncard) on a 1cc run.

>> No.7505488

>>7505480

It's extremely hard for me, even with bombs I couldn't do it. Those giant suns going behind me by curving pretty much kills me no matter how obvious the pattern is because it combines my slight weakness of curved bullets and bullets from behind into this massive weakness I can't beat. It's the same deal with Double Black Death Butterfly, except without giant bullets.

>> No.7505500

Take this shit to /v/.

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>>7505500
Trying to hard son.

>> No.7505516

>>7505488
You can cheese that one actually. Pretty much any replay will show how, if you want to.

ReimuA's bomb is kinda weak though yeah that tip doesn't hold for everything. It's just something I keep in mind so I don't die twice in the span of 10 seconds and feel like an idiot.

>> No.7505522

>>7505510
epic image macro bro

>> No.7505528

>>7505516

I might just check it, I'm not sure. My hatred for some of the stuff in SA overrides my dislike of using other people's replays so I'll probably check it out. Some guy recommended Reimu C because of the strong bomb but it's got that whole Youmu IN shot deal that I hate so I don't use it.

>> No.7505534

>>7505510
Are you fucking kidding me? This is the Japan board, not vidya board.

>> No.7505564

>>7505534
touhou is /jp/ related, deal with it.

>> No.7505576

>>7505534
>/jp/
>japan board

Ahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Funniest troll I've seen today

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>>7505534
3/10

I actually thought you were serious.

Only for a moment, though.

>> No.7505780

I decided to play Fairy Wars Hard mode A1 route...I gotta say even though I didn't manage to 1cc it, it doesn't seem very hard to me.

>> No.7505967

I seem to have misplaced my SA normal 1cc replay. Damn, I was gonna post it here for you to critique. Anyway, for all of you that are having problems 1ccing the game, head over to the System 11 forums, I hear they're a friendly bunch.

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>>7505967
>head over to the System 11 forums, I hear they're a friendly bunch.

>> No.7505996

>>7505978
That was trolling, if you couldn't tell, they're the most elitist pricks I've ever seen.

I play with an xbox360 d-pad (my keyboard lags), does that make me a bad person?

>> No.7506001

>>7501173
A couple of months ago I was trying to clear IN on normal mode actually. I tend to jump between games though, so after one month of grinding the fuck out of level 3 I moved to Subterranean, then I moved to PCB.

Really, thank fucking God you can grind a level until you're good at it. You have no idea of how much it helps to save your lives for stages 5 and 6.

>> No.7506007

>>7505996

If that's all you got, it's better than nothing. I use a keyboard, I have no money for any sort of gamepad so it's the best I have. I don't know if using another control scheme will help since I'm so used to keyboard now.

>> No.7506009

>>7505996
If it's for technical reasons it's all fine. At school I play Touhou with a game pad because my laptop's left arrow is broken.

>> No.7506010

>>7505996
I play with a 4$ usb keyboard.
Man, maybe I should go to System 11. Their rage would probably be hilarious.

>> No.7506020

I play Touhou on Rock Band drums
I play Touhou on a DDR pad
I play Touhou on kinect

>> No.7506028

>>7506020
Touhou on Kinect would actually be pretty interesting. I made a shmup myself that you controlled using your face with a regular webcam, it worked surprisingly decently.

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>>7506010
And I play with a default Dell keyboard, SK-8115.

>> No.7506038

>>7506028
>Touhou on kinect
controls :
right = lean right
left = lean left
down = crouch
up = stretch
shot = open mouth
focus = squint
bomb = make a "kamehameha" motion

>> No.7506043

>>7506020

Where is that picture of Marisa playing MoF with a Wiimote and Balance Board when I need it?

>> No.7506047

>>7506033
>4466
I thought the 200+ tries it took me to NDNB SA Extra was bad enough

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>>7506038
>person half-crouched squinting her eyes with her mouth wide open, while making airplane like leaning motions

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>>7506043
here
danbooru "kirisame_marisa wiimote"

>> No.7506062

>>7506047
That includes all difficulties of regular stage runs and every single time you restart for any reason.

>>7506050
This is pretty much exactly what I looked like playing my game, it was retarded but rather entertaining. I'd post a video but... I'd rather not, y'know?

>> No.7506063

>>7506060

Thanks. I went searching but I couldn't find it for some reason.

>> No.7506064

>>7506050
I don't usually do this, but...
>Implying that girls play Touhou

>> No.7506069

>>7506062
I know, but still. Holy damn.

>> No.7506086

>>7506028
>I made a shmup myself that you controlled using your face with a regular webcam
/r/ing link.

>> No.7506097

>>7506086
I'd rather not at the moment, since the files contain my full name and school affiliation and whatnot, since it was for a class. Maybe I'll clean it up one of these days.

It was terribly simple too, only a Space Invaders-style level system. Controls were the only interesting part about it.

>> No.7508246

>>7506069
I like SA, a lot. So I play it, a lot. Extra, stage practice, full runs, hundreds of restarts because I play for score.

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