In this thread we try explain why Gensokyo is better than this world! OK?

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Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:23:42 2011 No.7437179 [Reply] [Original]

In this thread we try explain why Gensokyo is better than this world!
OK?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:24:42 2011 No.7437183 It isn't. It doesn't have Internet. ZUN agreed, don't bother him about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:26:42 2011 No.7437184 Maybe filtering Gensokyo as well might get me rid of these threads. It's not like anyone posts anything worthwhile with that word, after all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:27:42 2011 No.7437187 File: 164 KB, 850x637, 59559f354bbc7b5cc769bc0f8c99d214.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gensokyo is very cosy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:28:42 2011 No.7437188 >>7437184 Gensokyo ass festival?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:33:42 2011 No.7437197 File: 891 KB, 1600x1200, eb47190976b5ac3960ef866898130152.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437184 It's just image posting thread.... calm down....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:34:42 2011 No.7437203 It's magical. This world lacks magic of any kind.

>>	Stupei, Ace Defective !1HOs/D5o7M Sat Jun 4 15:37:42 2011 No.7437210 In Gensokyo, I may actually be able to live a happy life alongside friends instead of always being depressed and alone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:39:42 2011 No.7437216 File: 775 KB, 1241x1241, cirnopoly.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The lives of touhous are just so much more interesting than us humans who live like goldfish in a bowl.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:41:42 2011 No.7437224 File: 464 KB, 600x800, 1296595910823.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437210 Obviously! In Gensokyo there are a lot of friendly people who love to meet new people to become friends with!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:42:42 2011 No.7437227 >>7437183 this

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Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:44:42 2011 No.7437236
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>>7437184
I don't filter anything anymore. I've realized, I love /jp/, all of it. All of its tripfags, all of its idolshit and Which Touhou threads. And I love you, Anonymous!

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:44:42 2011 No.7437237
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>>7437224
Those friendly people you speak of are hungry yokai who only want to to know the real you, by which I mean your delicious intestines. There are some that probably wont eat you but they'll ultimately have no use for you and it wouldn't work out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:46:42 2011 No.7437241 File: 757 KB, 1754x2480, 1298489391340.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In Gensokyo everyone is willing to help you become happy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:49:42 2011 No.7437248 File: 121 KB, 641x500, y83.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437236 awww

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:51:42 2011 No.7437252 File: 124 KB, 850x680, rabbit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437237 When you enter Gensokyo you automatically become one of Touhous and you are ready for having fun!

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:54:42 2011 No.7437260

Why are you all so delusional? Gensokyo is filled with man-eating Youkai, self-righteous goddesses and ignorant people. There's no pretty girls to be had, and the ones that exist would probably not even notice your existence, leading you to suffer winter alone.

Or get frozen intentionally.

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Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:54:42 2011 No.7437262
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lol, once you filter anything you don't like, there won't be any posts on this board, so you move to another board and start complaining there about how THEY have horribad tastes and should be filtered.

>>7437179
I'd like to see the opposite. I want a deconstruction of gensokyo... imean 90% of touhous EAT PEOPLE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:55:42 2011 No.7437264 >>7437260 Doesnt sound any worse than real life

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:58:42 2011 No.7437271 The tengu are at least nice people.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:59:42 2011 No.7437272

>>7437264
THERE'S NO INTERNET IN GENSOKYO. You would probably not even own a house, given the circumstances of you just being dropped there, akin to start a new life from scratch.

What would you do, start a life of crime? Have fun stealing stale bread and onions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:59:42 2011 No.7437273 File: 44 KB, 600x750, 1205172.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437260 Gensokyo is about tea-parties, fun, games and taking it easy! Violent Gensokyo exists only in bad doujins.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:59:42 2011 No.7437275 >What would you do, start a life of crime? Works for Marisa

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:02:42 2011 No.7437279 >>7437275 Marisa has a flying broomstick that she can use to get away with the goods real fast. All you've got are your stubby little legs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:03:42 2011 No.7437281 >>7437272 It depends - if you will be youkai or fairy you won't have to eat or worry about shelter until you will have chance to attain it. If you will be human you can live in human village. But being human (especially male) is not good in Gensokyo.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:03:42 2011 No.7437282

>>7437273
Your Gensokyo is about tea-parties, fun, games and taking it easy. However, that doesn't necessarily means it's what Gensokyo actually is, given that no one has been there yet.

In a way, I am crushing my own argument, but I am also making yours null. Don't expect the best outcome of a situation you barely know about, because you might hurt yourself in the end.

>>7437275
Marisa can fly and fire a giant laser at anything she doesn't likes. You can maybe hold someone hostage with a pointy rock. At the end of the day, justice prevails over the puny little humans.

>>	mugenjohncel Sat Jun 4 16:03:42 2011 No.7437283 >>7437272 It's...not the first time....i've stolen.....onions.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:05:42 2011 No.7437290

>>7437281
What makes you think you can just waltz into the human village and demand shelter? The villagers would never accept that.

I doubt they also need another mouth to feed in winter. It's counter-productive to care for a NEET-type person who would sleep all day and never work.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:07:42 2011 No.7437297

>It's counter-productive to care for a NEET-type person who would sleep all day and never work.

You could just hang with Komachi then. I'd imagine she'd be cool with someone chilling with her, and being the god of death and all, it's unlikely they'd die if they were good friends with her.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:08:42 2011 No.7437299

>>7437282
Gensokyo is one way trip - people who will enter won't leave (mostly, but if you will be able to leave it then you won't have to worry any more about anything). So it's hard to tell how certainly it looks like, but we can get some ideas and theories how it might look and be prepared for each of it. Both for happy Gensokyo and terrible nightmare with homicidal maniacs or something in between.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:12:42 2011 No.7437306 File: 321 KB, 768x576, 1286646048604.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think after a while it would start to feel funny being surrounded by people who look like this.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:13:42 2011 No.7437309

>>7437290
Immigrants in Europe get a lot more than many local people this way....

But I don't think anyone is stupid enough to believe that you can just stand on middle of human village and start to yell for food and house. Even (most of) Touhous are working so you can work too.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:16:42 2011 No.7437312

>>7437299
Ye be fairly warned. A wise man once said, if something can go wrong, it most definitely will go wrong. I'm just trying to warn you that Gensokyo, in many ways, might follow the same rules of the society we had in ages past, and still have today to an extent: the strong rule the weak, and the weak perish if they don't follow the strong. The strong enjoy of a good life, while the weak are left to a lifetime of work or starvation.

You could, potentially, get lucky. Somehow turning into a higher being such as a Youkai or a Celestial. It's a possibility I can't deny, but I imagine it would be like winning the lottery. Unless that happens, you'll still be part of the weak.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:16:42 2011 No.7437317 >>7437306 It's just drawing with heavy stylization. Don't think Gensokyo looks like this. (or at least I hope so).

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:17:42 2011 No.7437320

>>7437309
They'll probably take care of you for a few days while getting you set up in your new life. It's not like people never enter Gensokyo. Crash at Keine's while she gets you up to speed or something.

Then, when they find out you're a useless NEET, you'll be fed to Rumia.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:17:42 2011 No.7437321 >>7437306 They're all kawaii. I imagine it would be like someone speaking english but with a funny Australian accent. You'll get used to it eventually.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:18:42 2011 No.7437328 >>7437306 Don't worry, when you enter you'll look like that too so it'll be okay.

>>	Stupei, Ace Defective !1HOs/D5o7M Sat Jun 4 16:20:42 2011 No.7437330 >>7437237 At the very least I would still be able to live in a world where I thought I had friends...;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:22:42 2011 No.7437341 >>7437312 Then there have to be way to provoke this "luck". Be it with hard work or some kind of cheat or other thing. Also there is other rule - the lower you start from, the bigger chance you have to advance to higher place.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:23:42 2011 No.7437346 File: 323 KB, 528x700, 1302649857088.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It has Satori in it, and that's really all I need.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Commander !rSDMROXTB. Sat Jun 4 16:25:42 2011 No.7437357 >>7437179 because I can go hunting with my bare hands, and sniper shit with my invisible rifle like Marisa.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:26:42 2011 No.7437363 Because it's the fucking Thunderdome.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:26:42 2011 No.7437364

>>7437341
You know, I revise my statement. You would probably be able to live a good life in the human village, IF you could bring something along with you. Possibly a gun, which you could then kill a human villager claiming to be god, and that you use your divine instrument to punish the unfaithful. Then people would probably worship and take care of you for as long as you had bullets.

Apart from that, your theory makes no sense. You don't get a better chance if you start at rock bottom. That's like being a poor kid in the slums that is forced to eat mud every once a week magically turning into a fully fledged lawyer: it just won't happen.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:27:42 2011 No.7437377

>>7437320
Our elementary school education is way higher than they have. Also our practical knowledge is higher as well, unless you are really NEET who has no idea about world, is lazy, not willing to learn, or person who even can't even cook food without instant mix that only requires water to be added.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:36:42 2011 No.7437412

>>7437364
Actually this is very true - maybe not in fairy-tale mode where by accident you find a lot of money, go to school, open business and become billionaire.

And obviously not everyone from bottom does.

You need motivations and intelligence. And people at bottom have better motivations than those in middle who usually keep going down even during one generation.
It's because demand is precursor to progress.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:39:42 2011 No.7437434 >>7437364 Then Tewi comes along and caps your ass with an umbrella-gun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:41:42 2011 No.7437444 File: 4 KB, 170x107, trap.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437434 Not a problem.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:48:42 2011 No.7437465

>>7437377
The humans of the village aren't that ignorant. Gensokyo was only sealed off in the late nineteenth century.

And trying to set up shop like that is a recipe for getting a flying shrine maiden all up in your business, at which point you would be probably fed to youkai.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:55:42 2011 No.7437495

Well, if PMiSS is even a bit reliable these days, then most outsiders who fall into Gensyoko apparently stay there for good, even with a exit door at their disposal. So, it's probably a pretty great place full of wonders in the eyes of a regular schmuck, but staying probably has more to do with escaping the mundane boring world of the 21st century, rather then having access to infinite magical power everyone is going on about. Still, I imagine it being like living your whole life in the city of New York, and then suddenly joining the Amish in rural Ohio, only with the occasional denmaku battles and fairy mischief.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:00:42 2011 No.7437504

>>7437465
Then it might be occasion to prove who is master race and use some kind of "easy to produce" technology that they didn't have in Japan back then.

It's XIX for rest of world, but for Japan it's a lot more backward time - it's in middle (or before) revolution.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:03:42 2011 No.7437517 Your one sure-fire way to decent status is to brownose one of the more powerful houses in Gensokyo. In one of the art books it says that the SDM is always hiring staff. I am sure being a devoted disciple to a god wouldn't be that hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:07:42 2011 No.7437530 >go to gensokyo >find yourself at hakurei shrine >meet reimu >reimu spouts unintelligible moonspeak >cirno shows up >both spouting unintelligible moonspeak at each other >danmaku goes flying, you dive out of the way >feel a gun in your inventory wat do?

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:07:42 2011 No.7437531

>>7437504
The Moryia shrine tried to bring some good old civilization to Genyoko multiple times. All of which have failed miserable, even with the power of two divine gods. Hell, there is a store that sells crap from our world, but only five people even visit the place. How well is someone going to do in a world that lacks the equipment and the industrial base of a modern civilization going to do?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:08:42 2011 No.7437540 >>7437517 See? It isn't that bad. You can work even in Yakumo household (it's actually the best place for foreigners like us)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:11:42 2011 No.7437556 >>7437530 Shoot Cirno as Fairies 'respawn', explain to Reimu that your gun is something you fashioned to hold your danmaku in concentrated form, make love to Reimu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:14:42 2011 No.7437573 >>7437556 >reimu doesn't understand what you say >reimu slaps a seal of impotence on you when you get close

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:21:42 2011 No.7437594 Keep in mind that Marisa and Reimu actually speak English, as implied in Imperishable Night.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:25:42 2011 No.7437606 >>7437594 Kickass

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:26:42 2011 No.7437612 >>7437594 where is that at?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:27:42 2011 No.7437615 Your best hope is to find Yukari and get her to fix you up with some japanese. Maybe become a slave in return

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:28:42 2011 No.7437621

>>7437531
>industrial base

And that's your problem. You can do most of modern things without "complicated" technology. You just need to know how this world works.

And to get money you don't have to sell complicated things - even making wooden furniture that is designed with modern ideas might work (after all Japanese people love such foreign inventions that aren't invasive).
and this is knowledge from middle school classes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:31:42 2011 No.7437627 >>7437615 >slave to Yukari Yes yes a thousand times yes

>>	八雲紫 Sat Jun 4 17:46:42 2011 No.7437675 File: 52 KB, 539x502, A bird on the head is worth two on the Chen.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437615 >>7437627 That's fascinating, tell me more. >>7437530 There's no language barrier in Gensokyo thanks to border hax.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 18:08:42 2011 No.7437753

>>7437675
>no language barrier in Gensokyo thanks to border hax
Well, that's assuming you can convince Yukari to hax your border (if you know what I mean).
Outside of the human village, your safest bet would probably be Youkai Mountain, since kappas are friendly to humans (or at least Nitori is), or Chireiden, since most of the underground youkai (except for Parsee) are friendly to outsiders.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 18:14:42 2011 No.7437779 >>7437675 Yukari's slave. I would be. Willingly. Permanently. >>7437753 You lost me -3-

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 18:21:42 2011 No.7437796 >>7437615 So do you to do hard work all day long in return for food and ability to speak Japanese? Better stay in this world and learn Japanese as NEET.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 18:28:42 2011 No.7437822 I could invent the ball point pen, or something equally commonplace, and rule over human village. As their leader I would be able to get in good with the touhous seeing as I'm a little more important than the average Joe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 18:41:42 2011 No.7437883 File: 562 KB, 800x800, d2c0e48176efd4be140557f3c62cfa96.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In Gensokyo even sleeping is cute. (when you sleep you are cute for yourself too!)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 18:47:42 2011 No.7437908 >Enter Gensokyo >Bind your soul to seven objects >You're a wizard Harry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:08:42 2011 No.7438214 >>7437753 >since most of the underground youkai (except for Parsee) are friendly to outsiders The fact that you can't meet any underground youkai save for Yamane and Kisumi unless you go through Parsee is a bit daunting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:10:42 2011 No.7438220 >>7437183 Gensokyo does have Internet. Have you ever heard of 3G?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:17:42 2011 No.7438247 >>7438220 From Rance?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:19:42 2011 No.7438253 >>7438247 Rance what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:24:42 2011 No.7438279 Gensokyo doesn't have devil computers tarnishing the virgin minds of it's inhabitants.

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Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:49:42 2011 No.7438345

if you are not happy over here, why would you be happy in touhou land

your mental conditions would remain the same - and YOU are the chief cause of your miseries in this world

YOU choose to be solitary loners with weird habits

YOU choose to justify your sad tendencies, rather than work on improvement. nothing would improve

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:53:42 2011 No.7438358 File: 954 KB, 1155x1500, 1295651382403.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7438345 If I had a cute Touhou as my owner, I'd be a lot happier.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:57:42 2011 No.7438369

>>7438358

even the most cursory of examinations of slavery would reveal that such a thing is one of the worst evils that can be visited upon a person

take a shower, use soap and shampoo, then dress in your cleanest and most formal clothing and go outside. go down to your local community centre and look for something like a book group or even a light sports group if you're feeling particularly daring

naturally there is also the course of volunteering at your local church, i'm sure they'd be happy for the help and you could develop quite a social circle

this will put you on the road to improvement

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:58:42 2011 No.7438375 >>7438345 get out

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:00:42 2011 No.7438381
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>>7438369
So your response is essentially, "Fuck you, that's wrong, don't want that"?

Well, fuck you, that's wrong, don't tell me what I can't want. If I want to be the beloved pet of a strong youkai, then dammit, I have every right to want to be the beloved pet of a strong youkai.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:04:42 2011 No.7438392

>>7438358
Same here. If I had a Touhou I'd actually appreciate spending time and building fond memories with, I would definitely revise my way of life.

Sadly, that's the reason I'm a shut-in in real life. There's no one I want to spend time with there. I can't trust anyone, and everyone would impose something upon me or question the way I live if I attempted interaction with them.

>>7438369
You speak in such a way that makes it sound so easy. You're obviously not from around here. I don't want to partake on these kinds of activities because not only they would require some degree of commitment from my side, but I would also have to strike social interaction with these people that would force their means and creeds upon me.

I'm not interested in that. It's not a matter of being too scared to change, it's a matter of knowing that it's a futile idea and discarding it completely. Why waste my time here when there's such a better land over there?

Also, capitalize your sentences, please. writing like this makes you look bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:05:42 2011 No.7438394 >>7438381 his going to make you enjoy freedom even if he has to brake your legs and shove it down your thrat with a chimney sweep.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:06:42 2011 No.7438397

>>7438375

that's right! get out into the world! you'll feel so much better you did, although when you look back at this period of your life the shame will probably sting a bit

>>7438381

actually society can tell you that there are some things you should not want - illicit drugs or sex with minors for example

the first step is admitting you have a problem

also i do not think you quite grasp the idea of 'pet'. i would not enjoy having no rights and if we take the analogy to its logical conclusion being sterilized for convenience

this is a self-harm fantasy and you need help

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:09:42 2011 No.7438405 File: 54 KB, 435x600, freud.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7438397 By "I want to be a pet" people really mean "I want to have my mother back to care for me" Just FYI

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:14:42 2011 No.7438419

>>7438392

your chief objections are 'it would be too much effort' and 'i am too weak to endure any perceived slight or challenge to my own beliefs or ideals'

are you really so insecure? perhaps you need therapy for this, not everybody is out to attack you (although if you hold to this path then yes you can expect to be challenged and called out upon it)

>It's not a matter of being too scared to change

it absolutely is, and your ultimate objection that "it's not worth bothering" is just self-serving laziness. if you feel you yourself cannot change anything, then join a group: strength in numbers. this should be simple enough

you will have to challenge and compromise many of your ideals: this is part of life. you cannot simply 'opt out'

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:15:42 2011 No.7438424 >>7438397 >>7438419 Seriously, use your shift key. It will make you look at least a little less of a teenager preaching about the joys of life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:16:42 2011 No.7438426 Its a 100% heterogeneous community where everyone is treated equally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:18:42 2011 No.7438431 >>7438424 oh hey cool you actually going to respond to any of this or simply look for outs so as to not have to engage in it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:18:42 2011 No.7438432 >>7438405 Nobody wants your bullshit Freud, Goback2dead

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:19:42 2011 No.7438433 >>7438424 It's not surprising. Misaki was a teenager preaching about the joys of life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:19:42 2011 No.7438434 >>7438431 Seriously, use your shift key. It will make you look at least a little less of a teenager preaching about the joys of life. Also, I'm not any of the guys you're talking to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:21:42 2011 No.7438441 >>7438431 Is not the crux of your argument that I desire to be a normal, functioning member of society? Don't underestimate my lack of ambition or apathy.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:22:42 2011 No.7438447

>>7438419

I'm curious. Do you honestly believe that everybody wants to be a part of society? Do you truly think that the only reason people shut themselves away is fear? Is it so hard to believe that maybe some people just want to be alone, that they have no real interest in joining groups or having friends?

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:23:42 2011 No.7438451

>>7438397
>actually society can tell you that there are some things you should not want - illicit drugs or sex with minors for example

Do you realize these are baseless claims built by common sense and the media over the years? Why can't we have sex with minors? Why can't we use drugs? Well, because society says it's bad. Use common sense.

Well, humans are born with rights, and a person has every right to use his body in any way he wants. If a minor is fully aware of what sexual intercourse and illicit drugs are, why not let him use it? It's his choice, and it's up to him to make it, not from some medic or mother.

Of course, I'm completely on with the idea that these types of people should INFORM the minor about such things, but not CHOOSE for them. It's just that parents have built such an authoritarian figure over the years that this bit of knowledge seems to have been forgotten.

Alas, that's not here nor there. tl;dr, society can go and shove it.

>the first step is admitting you have a problem

You keep treating this as a problem. Since when having different personality traits is a problem? If that's the case, you have a very bad problem of social introversion, young man. Go get help.

>also i do not think you quite grasp the idea of 'pet'. i would not enjoy having no rights and if we take the analogy to its logical conclusion being sterilized for convenience

Yes, because pets are obviously only objects that guard my front gate and I must definitely cut the balls of every animal I get in order to rid the world of such dirty creatures. No, a thousand times no.

>this is a self-harm fantasy and you need help

Like I said, if I'm living a self-harm fantasy, maybe you should get some help too. You've been spending too much time outside.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:23:42 2011 No.7438452 >>7438434 okay Score one for cowardice I guess Just remember by making this choice to withdraw from society, you become the ultimate cause of your own unhappiness

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:23:42 2011 No.7438453

>>7438419
>are you really so insecure? perhaps you need therapy for this, not everybody is out to attack you (although if you hold to this path then yes you can expect to be challenged and called out upon it)

Not everyone is out to attack me. I'm ready to admit that fact. However, being a shut-in is a choice I've made, and I'm not unhappy with it. Going to therapy would be counter-productive as to treat a problem I clearly do not seem to have.

>it absolutely is, and your ultimate objection that "it's not worth bothering" is just self-serving laziness. if you feel you yourself cannot change anything, then join a group: strength in numbers. this should be simple enough

Like I said, I don't wish to join this sort of group because I know It'll be extremely unpleasant. There's a social group that accepts you, and one that harasses you.

>you will have to challenge and compromise many of your ideals: this is part of life. you cannot simply 'opt out'

The suicide rate on Japan would like to have a word with you.

Also, I'm not the person at >>7438424 . He is an Anon that is not having any of your tomfollery, but cannot express it in any other way than violently.

And he is justified.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:24:42 2011 No.7438454

>>7438397
>i would not enjoy having no rights
Personally, I'm a bit averse to salad. Lettuce just tastes really bad to me, and I cannot enjoy it at all. My mother likes salad though. I would not enjoy having salad, but she does. Odd how different two people can be, hm?

>and if we take the analogy to its logical conclusion being sterilized for convenience
That's a logical conclusion...? Well, whatever, I wouldn't mind either way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:31:42 2011 No.7438486 >>7438447 according to psychiatrists yes but then again psychiatrists 50 years ago labeled homosexuality as a mental illness that comes about from mothers coddling their sons too much.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:35:42 2011 No.7438502

>>7438486
What are psychiatrists? People that hear problems and propose solutions to them?

Psychiatrists are just another gear in the machine. They dictate what the major demographic of society deems to be true. That said, they would never understand the "problem" that we have, because it's not an actual problem.

That being said, he would probably brute force his way into you, or manipulate the conversation in a way to make you do some sort of agreement with him. It really doesn't matters if you go out there "healed" or not. He just wants his paycheck at the end of the session.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:41:42 2011 No.7438512

>>7438454

That you would freely give up your rights (going so far as to compare them to food preferences) and that you ultimately would have no problem being castrated is pretty clear evidence that you have serious mental problems

>>7438453

>However, being a shut-in is a choice I've made, and I'm not unhappy with it. Going to therapy would be counter-productive as to treat a problem I clearly do not seem to have.

This is why 'recognizing you have a problem' is the first step: the same arguments are made for illicit drug usage and alcoholism

>Like I said, I don't wish to join this sort of group because I know It'll be extremely unpleasant.

How do you know this if you've never tried? Better to keep going outside and perhaps risk getting hurt then remaining inside and definitely get hurt by stunting yourself

>The suicide rate on Japan would like to have a word with you.

One suspects this to be as much a cultural problem as a social one: at any rate, onus lies upon the victim for commiting the act, and, if no provision was made qua therapy or attempts to reach out, on those who could have supplied those resources but did not

The argument here calls for greater social interaction, not to legitimize dropping out of society as a choice
>>7438451

>Do you realize these are baseless claims built by common sense and the media over the years?

Baseless is a strange definition for 'well-supported by evidence gathered by both governmental and non-governmental sources over a number of decades through rigorous studies'

One suspects you are in denial

Also minors cannot consent or even correctly know the dangers they face: they lack the mental development for such things

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:45:42 2011 No.7438522

>>7438502

That you hold that psychiatrists and other mental health professionals are really part of some great conspiracy on the part of society to enforce some insidious set of norms upon you speaks really poorly of your mental health, just a heads-up

You are turning now to conspiracy theories to justify your delusions: hopefully you will realize this and why it means that what you are engaging in is problematic

>>7438486

I suppose if I could draw upon the sciences in their infancy as you have I could also discredit the fields of biology, chemistry and physics

You are reaching

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:48:42 2011 No.7438534
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Logically Gensokyo wouldn't be much better than our world. Simply put, humans in general have a very "grass is greener" attitude but once you find yourself on the other side, you often find it worse than what you imagined.

Gensokyo wouldn't have many of the things we take for granted in reality. Electronics, power, technology etc. Living there as a normal human would be very rural, you'd be forced into working for a living in order to stay alive. This would depend if you had a practical education however. If you were smart with good social skills (and...seeing as this is /jp/ none of us fit in that catagory) you could probably rise fairly far in social status.

If anything, you'd be better off choosing a world where it's more possible for commoners to turn into heroes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:50:42 2011 No.7438541 >>7438534 Why would anyone want to be a hero? I'm just interested in being happy with a girl I am attracted to in a peculiar way.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:51:42 2011 No.7438546
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Now if I were sent to Gensokyo, I would try to start a religion. That is the fastest and easiest way to gain a lot of power. I presume a lot of humans would be fairly uneducated and thus easy to convert by using knowledge of the outside world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:52:42 2011 No.7438549 >>7438546 >That is the fastest and easiest way to gain ...the enmity of two separate shrine maidens and two actual goddesses.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:55:42 2011 No.7438563
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>>7438549
Yes, and? It's true it could backfire and end up killing me, but I would be willing to take the gamble. Better to take the risk than languish and work the rest of my life. Provided I got enough converts, suddenly I have a lot of influence.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:56:42 2011 No.7438566 >>7438534 Or, even better, you could work to improve yourself in this world rather than engaging in escapism

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:57:42 2011 No.7438572 >>7438419 >you will have to challenge and compromise many of your ideals: this is part of life. you cannot simply 'opt out' Well, considering how stubborn many humans appear to be, apparently you can indeed "opt out."

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:58:50 2011 No.7438577 [DELETED]

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>>7438566
That is what I'm doing. Not going to bore you with the details of my life however.

I enjoy discussion other worlds and the various philosophies behind them. A little bit of escapism and imagination is good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:59:42 2011 No.7438578 >>7438563 Only a fool would take a gamble where there's a 90% chance of failure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:00:42 2011 No.7438583 File: 32 KB, 560x400, vlcsnap-4179421.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7438578 The real fool is the one who never takes risks and thus can never learn from them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:01:42 2011 No.7438588 >>7438577 >A little bit of escapism and imagination is good. They distract from the realities of this world Thinking should always be directed in some way towards the reality of the situation: otherwise it is wasted

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:01:42 2011 No.7438590 >>7438583 You'd have to be mentally deficient to need to be beaten by two shrine maidens and two goddesses in order to learn that making your own religion around two separate and very powerful shrines is a bad idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:03:42 2011 No.7438595 tl;dr: you're delusional and you should go outside, and probably seek psychiatric help does that about sum up the thread

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:04:42 2011 No.7438598
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>>7438588
>Thinking should always be directed in some way towards the reality of the situation: otherwise it is wasted

But this is not true for a lot of people. Indeed, a lot of the most prestigious of scientists had wild imaginations and put them towards solving various solutions. Einstein is an example.

Too much escapism and you fall into your mind, but not enough escapism and you become out of touch with yourself.

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Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:05:42 2011 No.7438603

>>7438588

>They distract from the realities of this world

If you take it to the extreme, maybe. But, even if that is true, so what? There are no absolute morals. There is no "good" or "bad." It's not necessarily a "bad" thing to be distracted from the "realities" of this world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:07:42 2011 No.7438608 File: 148 KB, 478x346, 1275302765161.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7438590 So be it then. I'll just keep at it until I either succeed or die trying.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:08:42 2011 No.7438611

>>7438598

So your amazing counter-example is... a man who spent all of his imagination working towards the reality of the situation while exploring what was relatively new territory

I'm still grateful to him: with his work, we were able to put the Japanese in their place and have guaranteed peace in the West ever since

>but not enough escapism and you become out of touch with yourself.

The only way to know yourself is through knowing others: otherwise, you engage sumply in intellectual masturbation

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:09:42 2011 No.7438618 Why is this thread so full of retards? And it's glaringly obvious neither one regularly visit /jp/ either.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:12:42 2011 No.7438628

>>7438611

>sumply

Ouch

Simply

>>7438618

Is it really so bothersome to you to have your beliefs qua your mental health challenged?

>>7438611

>There are no absolute morals. There is no "good" or "bad." It's not necessarily a "bad" thing to be distracted from the "realities" of this world.

I suppose then you think it is perfectly acceptable for, say, a woman to divorce her husband of many years after he becomes disabled or some other incident, take all of his money, and never let him see their children

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:12:42 2011 No.7438629
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>>7438611
>The only way to know yourself is through knowing others: otherwise, you engage sumply in intellectual masturbation

But this is also not true. There are individuals out there who are able to look deep within themselves and reach epiphanies just through that means.

But how do you define "reality of the situation"? Using theoretical models to setup how the universe works is not close to reality until it's tested and proven, but that's how Einstein worked.

Thinking is not wasted if it's not immediately focused on reality.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:12:42 2011 No.7438632

>>7438512
>This is why 'recognizing you have a problem' is the first step: the same arguments are made for illicit drug usage and alcoholism

As stated, being socially reclusive is only a problem if you see it as a problem. You may as well treat it like that, but don't expect the other party to do the same.

>How do you know this if you've never tried? Better to keep going outside and perhaps risk getting hurt then remaining inside and definitely get hurt by stunting yourself

Why do you think I'm here having this stupid argument with you? Why, I'd say it's because of people like you that I've quit, really.

>The argument here calls for greater social interaction, not to legitimize dropping out of society as a choice

Funny how it's social interaction that caused the suicide in the first place. I mean, between bullying in school and parenthood pressure at home, there's plenty of time to have fun with psychologists, right?

>Baseless is a strange definition for 'well-supported by evidence gathered by both governmental and non-governmental sources over a number of decades through rigorous studies'

...are you a church boy? You must be. Either that, or someone completely alienated by capitalism. AMERICA, FUCK YE-

>Also minors cannot consent or even correctly know the dangers they face: they lack the mental development for such things

You're implying that minors can't make choices because they're DUMB. Well, I'll make the argument that adults are dumb because they won't let their kids make decisions. How would that make you feel?

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:15:42 2011 No.7438642

>>7438628

I didn't say anything about my own beliefs. I just said that I don't believe that there are absolute rights or wrongs. And no, I don't believe that is factually wrong, even though in my opinion, it is wrong.

And what does that have to do with anything? My feelings on the matter do not prove or disprove the existence of absolute morals.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:20:42 2011 No.7438666

>That you hold that psychiatrists and other mental health professionals are really part of some great conspiracy on the part of society to enforce some insidious set of norms upon you speaks really poorly of your mental health, just a heads-up

Why, I would never! I mean, after all, just like you say, psychiatrists are the key to solving all of my "problems". I would never question the way they operate, or what they base themselves upon.

Hint: just like you believe psychiatrists are gods, I believe psychiatrists are worthless money suckers. That is the beauty of theorizing.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:28:42 2011 No.7438688

>>7438629

The goal was always to apply it to the real world, not to sit in some bizarre ivory tower and think of things which lacked connection to reality

>>7438632

>being socially reclusive is only a problem if you see it as a problem.

You do not truly exist as an individual, though - what may not be problematic for you is problematic for others, who should legitimately have a word into your condition

One supposes sociopaths are okay because they do not perceive they have a problem, by your reasoning

>Why, I'd say it's because of people like you that I've quit, really.

So you could not stand you have your ideals challenged - this is a failure of intellectual maturity and definitely shows you have a problem

>I mean, between bullying in school and parenthood pressure at home, there's plenty of time to have fun with psychologists, right?

Once again, psychiatry, not dropping out

Your solution would make both bullying and parental displeasure worse - you actively offer dangerous advice

>Either that, or someone completely alienated by capitalism. AMERICA, FUCK YE-

I do not know where this came from - it seems the remainder of an ill-formed thought

>You're implying that minors can't make choices because they're DUMB

There is a difference between strict intellectual ability and the intellectual AND emotional ability to grasp the consequences of serious actions

Minors display neither of these abilities

>Well, I'll make the argument that adults are dumb because they won't let their kids make decisions

Pet owners are dumb because they won't let their dogs make decisions

This is an absolute non-sequitur and simply cannot be engaged with - one suspects it is mindless contrarianism

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:31:42 2011 No.7438695 >>7438666 This thread started out great, and then you two shitted it up to hell. I'm all with you, but you just couldn't ignore the thousandt person that tried to convince us to be sociable, could you?

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:31:42 2011 No.7438696

>>7438666

I have made no claim qua the infallibility of psychiatrists - I have merely stated that you should seek out their help

It is, at any rate, a better course than persisting in delusion

>I believe psychiatrists are worthless money suckers.

Is this because they present a threat to your world summary and you would rather not be challenged

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:32:42 2011 No.7438704

Quality /jp/-related thread right here... I think I'll add to it!

I'm going to have to side with the guy defending his shut-in lifestyle, if only on the basis that the other guy has some really retarded ideals about the world that will probably give him a huge slap in the face when he finally grows up.

What the shut-in says about society is, sadly, true in a certain light. I find myself very often outcasted from groups that I would otherwise want to get along with because my interests in things like anime, Touhou, even video games, etc. and my lack of interest in things like the latest episode of American Idol, or House, make it difficult to interact socially on a comfortable level. It happens so often, in fact, that it makes one realize it may be easier to avoid these needless social interactions to begin with. We can be happy by ourselves, in our comfort zones, and still gain some amount of social interaction via the internet - where it is much easier to find people that share these not-so-socially accepted interests.

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Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:33:42 2011 No.7438709

>>7438688

>One supposes sociopaths are okay because they do not perceive they have a problem, by your reasoning

What's factually wrong with them? As far as I know, it is all just an opinion. There's certainly no evidence for absolute morals.

>emotional ability to grasp the consequences of serious actions

I would honestly suggest not using emotions to try to figure something out.

>Minors display neither of these abilities

You're speaking of minors as if they are some collective or something. While this may be true to some degree, saying that all of them are the exact same is merely a hasty generalization.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:34:42 2011 No.7438718 >>7438696 Why would he pay to see a psychiatrist when you could play one for him on the internet for free?

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:37:42 2011 No.7438727

>>7438695
I apologize, it was never my intention. Unfortunately, discussions are addictive and alter the way my frontal lobe acts; as a consequence, I do things I normally would not do.

Such as typing with one hand and masturbating with the other.

Please everyone, let's just go back to the topic. I've obviously tried to make my point but this guy just won't have it. I give up on arguing with him. Maybe we can still salvage this thread.

I can't even tell if it's the same person anymore. He's using this complicated language that is clearly beyond his level, and he wasn't using that when we started.

>>	Necrobrotent Sat Jun 4 22:41:42 2011 No.7438739 File: 1.17 MB, 758x800, 16041613.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Those girls who are making lewd faces at the bar don't want free drinks, just to eat your organs.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:50:42 2011 No.7438767

>I've obviously tried to make my point but this guy just won't have it. I give up on arguing with him

Of course I won't: you have no leg to stand on

>I find myself very often outcasted from groups that I would otherwise want to get along with because my interests in things like anime, Touhou, even video games, etc. and my lack of interest in things like the latest episode of American Idol, or House, make it difficult to interact socially on a comfortable level

if you only attempt to connect on the basis of the most superficial popular culture, then naturally your 'efforts' were doomed to failure

Also do you truly have no interests outside of those things because if this is so then it certainly points out a lack of maturity - perhaps you could cultivate an interest in actual art or music, not their Japanese knock-offs

>I would honestly suggest not using emotions to try to figure something out.

This has nothing to do with using emotions to figure something out - it is dealing correctly with emotions and emotional responses, and learning to control the rule of emotion. Minors are bad at this

>You're speaking of minors as if they are some collective or something.

Any exceptions to this are so minuscule as to be irrelevant: we should not legislate on the basis of such an incredible exception.

>What's factually wrong with them? As far as I know, it is all just an opinion. There's certainly no evidence for absolute morals.

Then live in accordance with the ideals of your society as best you can - society has a say in your development and it would do good for you to realize this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:55:42 2011 No.7438783 File: 83 KB, 850x850, sample-4a7853cb0e0add396b3e3e5f47c17655.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7438767 Fancy words. Someone would like to have a word with you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:57:42 2011 No.7438796 >>7438767 Thank you for reminding me why I stay out of discussions like this on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:59:42 2011 No.7438806 >>7438783 And who might this someone be? It would be sad if you were talking about a fictional character >>7438796 Because you cannot keep up with them? Then that is your problem Work to improve yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:01:42 2011 No.7438815 >>7438806 The trolling. It hurts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:01:42 2011 No.7438816 >>7438806 "Hi, I'm an anon who loves to make an asshole of myself on the internet. It's not like this personality gets in the way of any social interactions!"

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:02:42 2011 No.7438822

>>7438767

Just so you know, I'm not the same guy.

>Also do you truly have no interests outside of those things because if this is so then it certainly points out a lack of maturity - perhaps you could cultivate an interest in actual art or music, not their Japanese knock-offs

That's just an opinion.

>it is dealing correctly with emotions and emotional responses

Okay.

>Minors are bad at this

I suggest using words like "some" or "most." That way it will likely lessen the chance that someone will think that you are talking about every single minor in existence.

>Any exceptions to this are so minuscule as to be irrelevant

It's not irrelevant. Even one instance of a minor different from the ones you described would disprove what your post implied: that all minors are like the ones you described.

Also, I'd like a study that proves that. To get the exact number of them (or near it), you'd need to study nearly every single one of them. Otherwise, it's difficult to state it as an absolute fact without it being challenged. A difficult task.

>Then live in accordance with the ideals of your society as best you can - society has a say in your development and it would do good for you to realize this

Whether it is "good" or "bad" is just an opinion. Whether or not I should live in accordance to the rest of society is, again, just an opinion. And going along with what everyone else says or does is oftentimes not a good idea, as history has proven countless times.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:13:42 2011 No.7438885
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I've stayed away from the world for years now. When I was a child, I was normal, although hyper. I was a class clown, and was loved. Things went down from fifth grade. I lost a fight, and people began exploiting my weaknesses. And I let them, because at the time I was Christian and thought that pacifism would be better. It wasn't. When I got back to my old school at eight grade, I was in a group of normal kids, though I was always in the shadow of everyone else. When I got to junior high, I began to question things more openly. My mind began to open to the world around me. People didn't like that, and I was shunned. Eventually, some black kid who was popular because he was a basketball player pulled down my pants in gym class. I was completely exposed. To top things off, some jackass jockey who lifted 300 pounds slammed my head into a locker. I cried. What else could I have done? Ever since that day, I have known the world for what it is. Each day, I despise it more. When I was in high school, I found inspiration in the arts and classical music. I began to turn away from the rock and pop and rap that was being forced down societies throat, and chose the decadent. My journals would fill with poetry and philosophy. When I recited it, everyone would look at me as if I was mad, or ignore me completely.

You may ask why this story was mentioned. It is simple. I no longer want the world, or society. Nothing but a bunch or brainwashed idiots. They cannot appreciate me for who I am, so why should I conform and become null. I choose to stand against the tide, and follow my own path, away from the dead fish floating down the stream.
Of course, I can already imagine someone in this thread saying that the locker to the head gave me brain damage, or that I'm trying to be edgy. I'm not. I merely see the world for what it is.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:14:42 2011 No.7438891

>>7438822

>That's just an opinion

A generally accepted one, though - one could say consensus has generally been reached with this

At the very least, you must strive to develop interests beyond these - games, cartoons: these things do not stimulate your mind

>And going along with what everyone else says or does is oftentimes not a good idea, as history has proven countless times.

These related more to persecution or exploitation of people across the world - it cannot be pulled out to justify your habits

One supposes you have no problem with Muslims enacting their own laws for their communities, or for other groups to follow the rules of your society only as they liked

>It's not irrelevant.

Why

You are asking to legislate on the basis of a 1 in 100 million chance - Legislation should err towards the side of caution and harm-prevention

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:18:42 2011 No.7438912

>I merely see the world for what it is

No, you see the world through the eyes of a victimized child

Your abuse is horrible and has clearly had lasting effects upon you

>I choose to stand against the tide

You did not choose to be abused and this is what led to your current world summary, so your matter is, unlike many of those presented here, not exactly one in which responsibility falls entirely to you

I suspect therapy and learning to at least attempt to trust people would help somewhat, but cannot given a 100% guarantee that it would be effective for you. Nevertheless, people have endured worse than you (not to put down your experience) and have come to develop healthy world summaries, so it is not impossible to grow beyond your childhood experiences

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:23:42 2011 No.7438936
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>>7438912
I am beyond those experiences. I forgave those people long ago. They are now ants beneath my feet. They will get nowhere being together. The only way one truly finds happiness and inspiration is through extensive suffering. The greatest of artists have shown this. And so I let myself suffer, and shun the world around me, so that I may know myself better. For who else will truly be there for me? Who else can truly understand another individual completely. No two minds have ever actually met. Solitude is for the best, because it keeps you from being dragged under into mediocrity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:26:42 2011 No.7438960 This is literally the worst thread I've seen in /jp/ in a long time.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:27:42 2011 No.7438964

>>7438936

Great, now you're just spouting stuff from videogames

Yep, you definitely need help

>I am beyond those experiences. I forgave those people long ago. They are now ants beneath my feet. They will get nowhere being together.

'I forgave them but they're all pieces of shit who are beneath my notice and yet I make it very obvious that I still deeply care about this matter and what they did to me'

I think you have denial issues: you will not improve unless you can come to terms with this abuse, and it is most likely through psychiatric treatment that you will be able to reconcile yourself with your childhood

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:28:42 2011 No.7438978 >>7438964 He obviously doesn't give a shit, as he's never brought it up before. The reason he mentioned it now is because you specifically asked him about it. It's like I'm really in Teamliquid blogs.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:29:42 2011 No.7438980

>>7438891

>At the very least, you must strive to develop interests beyond these - games, cartoons: these things do not stimulate your mind

I'm not that guy but:

Yeah, and I'm sure watching shitty sitcoms, FOTM books 'everyone has read' (see: Twilight), blogging/Tweeting/spending my days on FB, and stuff people my age, and even older, are fascinating and stimulating interests.

And the worse is, when you want to make these faggots read something that is actually good, like, say, Les Misérables, they laugh at you, so yeah, I'm sorry if I don't have the same interests as 95% of the population.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:32:42 2011 No.7438994

Stop arguing with this guy and hide the thread. Let it die. If it isn't obvious, he's just spouting the same arguments that were already disproven over and over again.

He just can't accept he lost. Let him talk with himself here and move on. Maybe next time we have a thread like this, we can keep the argument as to why gensokyo would be a good place to live, rather than why aren't we out there being harassed.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:32:42 2011 No.7438999

>>7438964
What I speak comes from the heart, and no where else. Psychiatry cannot help me. I have no problems. But of course, this seems to be the point you have been arguing for the last half hour. Everyone needs to go and get a mental health check in your opinion. After all humans are social creatures, and anyone outside of that is definitely in the wrong. If they don't talk, they suffer! Your arguments remind me of Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. "Any person outside of the norm needs help, because people can only be happy when they are together!"

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:34:42 2011 No.7439008

>>7438980

They engage in interests beyond these, though: these items are not the be-all and end-all of their experience and they generally do not seek to define themselves and their identities by these interests alone, unlike you

You use your interests as an excuse to set up an outsider identity - this is not a good thing

>read something that is actually good, like, say, Les Misérables

This is kind of incidental but I always feel sorry and sympathetic for Javert

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:37:42 2011 No.7439027

>"Any person outside of the norm needs help, because people can only be happy when they are together!"

Given one of the deepest human drives is companionship, this is in fact the case

>Psychiatry cannot help me. I have no problems.

Could help with that denial problem

>Everyone needs to go and get a mental health check in your opinion.

I have no claimed this, but I will say that many people on this board would most probably benefit from a visit to a mental health professional

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:42:42 2011 No.7439048

>>7439008

Meanwhile, these three things are the main interests of most people I know. Throw in the mix here and there some hockey or tennis, smoking weed, and clubbing, and that's pretty much it.

Of course, I do have other interests outise cartoons and gaming: reading books, training/lifting weights and cooking, but I chose these especially because it's something you do for yourself.

I couldn't care less about the people around me. I'm a pretty calm and simple-minded person, so having to live with people that will try by all means to involve me in their life issues and their troubles is among the most cruel forms of torture you can inflict upon me.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:45:42 2011 No.7439063

>>7439027

>but I will say that many people on this board would most probably benefit from a visit to a mental health professional

Many people on this board would benefit from you getting the fuck out of here with your holier-than-thou, armchair psychologist, keyboard warrior preaching bullshit. Get off your soapbox, sunshine, that shit isn't fooling anyone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:47:42 2011 No.7439068 >>7439063 They benefit from the prospect of improvement I have attempted to offer to them It is sad that you can brook no challenge to your ideas, though

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:48:42 2011 No.7439072
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>>7439048
Alas, the fool who thinks that everyone needs help from psychiatrists cannot understand this. He seems to be the type to sacrifice individuality over stability. He sees people outside the norm, and this frightens him. He cannot comprehend that those who stand against the tide are the ones who make the most change. Society has left a cruel brand on him, and he cannot offer any advice that is worthwhile.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:50:42 2011 No.7439076 man if i went to gensokyo id own dem bitches left and right it wouldn even be funny

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:53:42 2011 No.7439082

>He seems to be the type to sacrifice individuality over stability

Well yes, this is generally how society has succeeded

It is a model that works and has done greatly to improve the human condition

>He cannot comprehend that those who stand against the tide are the ones who make the most change.

Societies acting in concert make the most change - the idea of the lone individual rising up to overthrow the order of the day exists only in myth and story

>>7439048

Have you ever considered a book club? I feel that such a group would be more your speed, and even if you did not go for the socialisation, the challenges to your ideas would make it stimulating enough

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:54:42 2011 No.7439084 File: 18 KB, 320x480, jake.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TIME TO CLEAN IT UP

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:56:42 2011 No.7439093

>>7439068
You do not offer anything new. People were aware psychiatrists existed before you "informed" of this. What you are doing (and I think you yourself perfectly realize this) is openly antagonizing people by trying to force your opinions down their throats. In other words you are outright trolling. Too bad acting like an ass on a message board is not going to convince anyone to "improve" themselves, regardless of wether they need it or not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:59:42 2011 No.7439106 >>7439093 One must go to the homes of the afflicted Besides, I feel that by debunking the arguments put against me, people might be motivated to insight, and that insight will lead to the pursuit of help

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:00:42 2011 No.7439113
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>>7439082
Aye, to those that don't see, they do only exist in myth and legend. Think of all the great men and women who stood up against the tide.
Martin Luther
Martin Luther King Jr.
Jean de Arc
Gustav Klimt
Hieden, Beethoven,
Pythagoras, Socrates
Issac Newton, Galileo,
Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great
Yes these men and women are few, but each made major changes in history, all because each one decided that the current situation was wrong, and that change had to be made. There are far more than these few. Scientists constantly make bold statements among eachother to gain knowledge, regardless of how this may effect their social standings. These are true men of valor, unlike the stagnating pool of the masses that you reside in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:06:42 2011 No.7439125 >>7439106 You are not debunking anything. Saying "lol you're wrong seek help" is somewhere between ad-hominem and outright name-calling. As someone who has actually, you know, studied psychology, I also find it quite amusing. Yeah yeah IHBT I know.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:06:42 2011 No.7439126 >>7439106 You're absolutely nothing. Do you know what interval at which your cheeks can flap is? Not even 5 gigaflops a nanosecond! Absolutely miserable. Why should I listen to anything from a loser so pathetic?

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:06:42 2011 No.7439127

>>7438891

>A generally accepted one, though - one could say consensus has generally been reached with this

Appeal to popularity. The fact that many people believe something does not make that belief correct.

>At the very least, you must strive to develop interests beyond these - games, cartoons: these things do not stimulate your mind

I really don't have to do anything. Nor does it likely matter in the end.

>These related more to persecution or exploitation of people across the world - it cannot be pulled out to justify your habits

They relate to anything, and I don't need to justify anything. Lots of people saying something does not make it true.

>Why

I just explained why. You said it in a way that meant all of them. Even one counterexample would disprove that statement.

>You are asking to legislate

I didn't ask anything of the sort.

>1 in 100 million chance

Where did this number come from? Can you prove this?

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:09:42 2011 No.7439132

>>7439027
You sound like the one with the problem. You appear to have some sort of superiority complex. "No, no you must stop being a shut-in, you need help". Here, in /jp/ and you're saying something like this? If you said what you have been babbling on in all your previous posts in another forums, I can just casually shrug it off as "eh, normalfag". But yet here you are, with a mere amateur understanding of psychology trying to uh "help other people" with your holier than thou mentality.
You are doing this to seek some form of gratification, albeit a short one, from the so-called NEETS and shut-ins. You are just like Misaki from Welcome to NHK. You think that you are some sort of savior going around 'helping' other people beneath.

You are the one in denial. You are the one with a problem. You do not belong here. You are not part of /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:11:42 2011 No.7439142 >>7439132 No, he's likely just trolling. I have no doubt that there are people out there that believe things such as that, though.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:17:42 2011 No.7439162

>>7438891
>At the very least, you must strive to develop interests beyond these - games, cartoons: these things do not stimulate your mind

"hey, hey did you watch American Idol? OMG those people are sooo pathetic, they suck but they still go on stage making a fool of themselves lolololol xdddd"

I'm not the original poster of whom you're initially replying to, but while you do have a point that we should try to expand our horizon and try out new things, it has come to a point the the most things that my 'so-called average peers' do are just so... pointless, and dare I say, sometimes even worse off than what I do. At the very least, playing games like say, Portal requires some form of thinking, spending time in the library may be seen as anti social, but I'm actually gaining interesting insights. I dont partake in the so-called normal things, not because Im some emofag who's trying to rebel. No, there are just more interesting things than just be normal and watch sports etc

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:20:42 2011 No.7439176

>>7439142
well he sure have placed a lot of effort into the trolling, assuming it's one person who has been trying to uh convince the other anons to change, throughout the entire thread.

I mean damn, I just entered this thread thinking it's about Touhou and then omgwtfisthistldr

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:24:42 2011 No.7439189

>Appeal to popularity.

They are the consensus for a reason. Try to think why that is

>I really don't have to do anything. Nor does it likely matter in the end.

How nihilist. This is also unhealthy

>They relate to anything, and I don't need to justify anything.

Yet you've constantly been attempting to justify your shut-in lifestyle

>I didn't ask anything of the sort.

You desired sex with minors, obviously there would be a legislative component in this

>As someone who has actually, you know, studied psychology, I also find it quite amusing.

So if you've done an intro course, then, what's your take on /jp/?

>7439113

All of these people accomplished nothing by themselves - they appealed to society and drew upon mass movements to make change with other people who shared these ideals

Once again, people acting in concert, not heroic men

>You are not part of /jp/.

I freely admit I am an outsider

Why is it relevant?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:29:42 2011 No.7439203 >>7439189 I've been ignoring this thread for a while but I have to ask. What are your intentions? If it's pointless trolling I don't care but if you think you can accomplish something positive by galvanizing broken people against you, you're retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:30:42 2011 No.7439207 >>7439189 Do you know what your cheeks are? Absolute garbage! I just moderated your ass up so that the entire world will be aware of its goodyociousness, including Crashhelper's dad!

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:31:42 2011 No.7439211

>>7439189
>>You are not part of /jp/.
>I freely admit I am an outsider
>Why is it relevant?

I like how you ignored the rest of that post.

Why is that relevant, you ask? Because, jsut as how we are not part of the sub-culture you belong to, you are not part of this sub-culture we belong to, therefore you can be preachy all you like.

Also, learn2psychology. Seriously man, at least take a course in psychology and sociology before you come in here bullshitting with your facts. You idea of the real world is shallower than you think.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:33:42 2011 No.7439215 >>Appeal to popularity. >They are the consensus for a reason. Try to think why that is Appeal to popularity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:35:42 2011 No.7439218 Slowly the NEET mindset has been creeping into my normalfag life. I've been in /jp/ too long.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:35:42 2011 No.7439219 >>7439211 I ignored the rest because it was an empty ad-hominem attack >You idea of the real world is shallower than you think. Oh? Do tell >>7439203 I would ideally like for them to realize they are broken and take steps to correct this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:35:42 2011 No.7439220 >>7439215 Appeal to incorrectness. The world is flat and black people deserve to be slaves.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:36:42 2011 No.7439221 >>7439219 your mum's face is broken you're completely pathetic. cower in my shadow some more, feeb.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:36:42 2011 No.7439222 >>7439219 So basically you're spending your time here relentlessly trying to convince happy people that they're secretly depressive wrecks who need psychological help.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:37:42 2011 No.7439224 >Appeal to popularity. You cannot simply trot this out again and again Really try to think why these values are the ones society has agreed upon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:38:42 2011 No.7439228 File: 262 KB, 475x358, 1275291844724.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This thread was decent until the huge argument that no one cares about taking over. Shame.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:38:42 2011 No.7439229 >>7439224 >Really try to think why these values are the ones society has agreed upon Appeal to popularity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:38:42 2011 No.7439230 >>Appeal to popularity. >You cannot simply trot this out again and again >Really try to think why these values are the ones society has agreed upon Appeal to popularity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:39:42 2011 No.7439231 In gensokyo, everyone gets to be the little girl. Also, it's silly hats only.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:39:42 2011 No.7439232

>>7439222

Looking to fiction for companionship and honestly asking why a fictional place would be a better place to live than the real world are not the hallmarks of happy, well-adjusted individuals

If there is any happiness here, it is from delusion: such is unhealthy and should be confronted

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:39:42 2011 No.7439234 >>7439219 >I would ideally like for them to realize they are broken and take steps to correct this In other words, the former. Whatever. Have fun.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:40:42 2011 No.7439235 >>7439232 So basically you're spending your time here relentlessly trying to convince happy people that they're secretly depressive wrecks who need psychological help. Thought so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:41:42 2011 No.7439237 >>7439232 Appeal to incorrectness. When you walk out that door, do you think anyone's gonna care about you!? There. I've just destroyed all of your arguments. Think about what you've done.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:41:42 2011 No.7439238 >>7439229 >>7439230 It is unfortunate when all you can do is evade the question

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:42:42 2011 No.7439244
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>>7439132

Turns out >>7439222 is right! Let us all give this poor, poor anon a group hug. it's alright mr>>7439219, we're here for you to convince yourself that you're better than us. Go on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:42:42 2011 No.7439245 >>7439238 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_popularity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:42:42 2011 No.7439247 >>7439238 Okay, hold on, I'll answer the question for you: Appeal to popularity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:44:42 2011 No.7439254 >>7439232 Are you that anti-trangender person who kept calling transgenders delusional?You sure sound like him.And as I told him before there is nothing wrong with finding happiness in a "delusion".

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:44:42 2011 No.7439256 >>7439235 But they're not happy Oh well >>7439234 How did you reach this conclusion

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:44:42 2011 No.7439257 >>7439247 Appeal to drippin' nutsacks. There's a silent papoohie right on your nutsack!

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:44:42 2011 No.7439260

Hey Faggots,

My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:47:42 2011 No.7439267 >>7439260 It's too good to be true, but if you were that one guy from this thread this would be the ultimate conclusion to the world's greatest troll.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:48:42 2011 No.7439271 >>7439267 Really? It's quite easy. Just make long posts that contain only semi-offensive (to some people) wording that sound like they could be legitimate. You also need some time. That's really all there is to it.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:48:42 2011 No.7439274

>>7439254

I am not this person, although I feel their ideas need more extensive examination

Much work has been done into establishing gender dysphoria as a legitimate disorder, but one must be careful qua diagnosis and treatment

>>7439247

It must be wonderful to hide behind magic words and never have to deal with your problems

>>7439244

I have never made such a value judgement: I merely want for you to get better

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:49:42 2011 No.7439277

>>7439224
What society are you referring to? The country you live in? Or are you actually proposing that it is a worldwide view that moden Japan produces no real music (im letting the art part slide)? Do you think the otaku culture is so shallow as to not feature good composers? (what's real music in your opinion btw?)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:50:42 2011 No.7439280 File: 1.00 MB, 981x3454, 1307082456472.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lol why u so mad?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:51:42 2011 No.7439282 >>7439277 You just... don't understand anything, do you? If lots of people believe that 2 + 2 = 5, then that is true. Society has decided upon that, and therefore it is true. Now think about why they did that, and all will become clear.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:52:42 2011 No.7439284 >How did you reach this conclusion It's less troublesome than the idea that someone with no capacity for self reflection is asking me such a dumb question.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:55:42 2011 No.7439288

I just don't get why people dream about living in other worlds, and escaping to fantasy. Judging from the responses here, I can tell that the previous fellow was indeed correct. The fact that everyone relentlessly attacked him to defend themselves proves that they saw something wrong with themselves, and lashed out at it. Such a shame.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:55:42 2011 No.7439290

Look guys, cant we just for once, agree that that theres something wrong with us?

Otherwise that idiot's just gonna keep up with his nonsense. This was supposed to be a touhou thread remember?

Anyway, touhou thread it shall be.

Frankly if I do end up in Gensoukyo, would it be safer to be a slave to Yukari or Alice? Or maybe just apply for work at the Scarlet Devil Mansion, or do they only hire cute maids?

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:55:42 2011 No.7439292

>>7439280

I've already debunked this - it was in a thread about 2d pictures of women with rabbit ears

>Do you think the otaku culture is so shallow as to not feature good composers?

There is no 'otaku culture' beyond the swapping of tired popular culture given to them by the entertainment industry, and most of its 'composers' merely innovate poorly with pirated electronic tools, and produce nothing of note

If you wanted to turn to real music, one could look at Rap (at times an extremely sophisticated and powerful voice of the oppressed) Disco (it delighted in deliberately being artificial and provided a 'safe spot' for gays and women) or or you could instead turn to classical music from pretty much any tradition (deeply invested with cultural meaning and strong technique)

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 00:58:42 2011 No.7439304

>>7439288

This is very true

>>7439282

This has nothing to do with the realms of mathematics - the values of a society and the field of mathematics could not be further apart

Answer the question

>>7439290

Acknowledging you have a problem is only the first step: one must take action

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:00:42 2011 No.7439310 File: 1.14 MB, 1020x1595, 1297863194696.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7439282 Never compromise, /jp/. Never compromise!

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:01:42 2011 No.7439313

>>7439290

I think it's best if people just ignored the guy. He'll keep pestering if we respond more and more until he sees results or something silly. This whole thing is silly. I don't see why people bother responding to him, and now even I'm getting roped into this stupid thing like a complete idiot as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:05:42 2011 No.7439324 File: 374 KB, 875x1000, 1306309709178.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7439313 coz it's hilarious that's why. pic somewhat related

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:07:42 2011 No.7439328 >>7439304 Appeal to popularity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:13:42 2011 No.7439342 >>7439290 I'm with this guy. Frankly, I think it'd be nice to try and become an apprentice to Rinnosuke. He seems like nice guy. And to have made the Hakkero, he must have some power.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:14:42 2011 No.7439343 Moral of this thread: Escapism is bad for you and will turn you into one of the wrecks populating this sorry thing Get outside and socialize! Join the book club! Get some fresh air! Just get out from behind the computer and have fun WITH PEOPLE

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:18:42 2011 No.7439360

ARGUMENT CONTINUATION, AHOY

>>7439288
>The fact that everyone relentlessly attacked him to defend themselves proves that they saw something wrong with themselves, and lashed out at it. Such a shame.

What? No it doesn't, that doesn't prove shit. Nobody 'relentlessly attacked' anybody, all opinions & arguments were reasonably defended, as they should have been. Would you have had us sit back and take everything thrown at us as the gospel truth? I don't think so.

>>7439290
>Look guys, cant we just for once, agree that that theres something wrong with us?

No, we can't, because there isn't anything wrong with us. Anyone who thinks that people who choose to shun social contact are 'wrong' can take a long walk off a short pier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:19:42 2011 No.7439361 >>7439324 The one who made that pic is very buttmad at people disliking the stuff he likes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:21:42 2011 No.7439369 >>7439342 hmm, good point. I guess safest bet is work for him. I dont mind doing odd jobs at an antique shops. heck, i have worked part-time at one of those old book stores and it's pretty cool

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:22:42 2011 No.7439376 >>7439360 you... didn't read the second part of his post did you?

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:23:42 2011 No.7439381

>No, we can't, because there isn't anything wrong with us. Anyone who thinks that people who choose to shun social contact are 'wrong' can take a long walk off a short pier.

Now I am being met with violence

Please take a deep look at what you wrote and then say that you are 'okay'

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:25:42 2011 No.7439390 File: 143 KB, 495x718, 1306843911080.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TOUHOU HIJACK LOL

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:27:42 2011 No.7439400 I kind of envisioned Gensokou as kinda like manga, slice-of-life, fairy hijinks, getting pranked by the 3 fairies etc

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:27:42 2011 No.7439401 >>7439381 Ok, this is just jp trolling itself now. No way that post was serious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:28:42 2011 No.7439404 >>7439381 Police forces use violence, which according to you is wrong. But police are popular, which according to you means they're right. Wait a second...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:29:42 2011 No.7439405 >>7439343 tl;dr: if you want to live a normal life, get out of /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:31:42 2011 No.7439416 >>7439404 I made no value judgement qua violence Violence on the part of the police may in many cases be justified Violence on the part of the mentally ill may be explained, but not justified >>7439401 It was perfectly serious

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:31:42 2011 No.7439417

>>7439360

The fact that any of you even responded in the first place indicates that you wished to defend yourselves by trying to justify your unhealthy behavior. That is proof in and of itself.

As a side note, by using abusive language, as you just did, you merely prove my point.

>>	Suigin !fKazami5bE Sun Jun 5 01:34:42 2011 No.7439426 i'd like to think this guy is talking to himself but knowing the massive shit he took on some other thread the other day he probably isn't

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:36:42 2011 No.7439433 >>7439426 Some people just want to see the world burn

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:36:42 2011 No.7439434

>>7439416
So if you act rude to a complete stranger and they tell you to go fuck yourself (which that guy did politely btw), do you consider them mentally unstable too? Did you really think that was violent and/or took offense to it? Sounds like you're having problems with your views being challenged.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:37:42 2011 No.7439436 >>7439417 no.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:45:42 2011 No.7439465

>>7439376
Second part of which post? I quoted two.

>>7439381
>Now I am being met with violence

Damn right you are. You may not have noticed from whatever cloud you're sitting on, but people can only take so much of the crap you're spewing before they start getting annoyed. And by people I don't just mean the average /jp/ browsing shut-in, if you walked up to any old person on the street and tried to force the shit you're preaching here down their throats, they'd tell you to fuck off, too.
Are you going to try and tell me being angry isn't normal either?

>Please take a deep look at what you wrote and then say that you are 'okay'

Looking.....looking....looking........

Yep, I'm good.

>>7439417
>The fact that any of you even responded in the first place indicates that you wished to defend yourselves by trying to justify your unhealthy behavior. That is proof in and of itself.

Of course we defended ourselves, that's what people do when attacked. Justification doesn't come into it, either, we're entitled to defend our point of view, and our 'behaviour' isn't unhealthy, you haven't proven anything.

>As a side note, by using abusive language, as you just did, you merely prove my point.

Again, you've proven nothing. I don't use 'abusive language' to abuse people, I swear because it's just how I talk, there's no rhyme or reason to it.
Stop grasping at straws.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:45:42 2011 No.7439466

>>7439434

Oh no, his mental instability is not related directly to his telling me to 'fuck off': he was known to be unstable before this revelation and is drawing upon violence to protect his world summary

>Did you really think that was violent and/or took offense to it?

I was told to kill myself, the violence is obvious

>Sounds like you're having problems with your views being challenged.

No challenge has really been presented: there have been a myriad of excuses, but beyond this no serious intellectual response

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:49:42 2011 No.7439474

>Are you going to try and tell me being angry isn't normal either?

Oh no, anger and defensiveness are perfectly normal responses in this instance: we must merely overcome them

>our 'behaviour' isn't unhealthy, you haven't proven anything.

This thread has alsready proven it: your desires to escape to another world, to engage in love of 2D: these are not healthy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:51:42 2011 No.7439481 wow... this is quite commendable... I just came back and this thread is still here. and that same guy is STILL here. Talk about perseverance. Even those Jehovah witnesses arent that persistant.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:54:42 2011 No.7439485 >>7439481 We should all stop responding to the dude. It's getting sillier. Just relax and don't mind him and all that.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:55:42 2011 No.7439490

I'm confused.

So this guy comes in and talk about admitting problems, changing ways etc. For HOURS. Does he like, have so much free time? Shouldn't he be out there doing what he's trying to get the NEETs to do? Yet he' still here. I'm pretty sure a lot of the original posters of the thread have already left. But he's still here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:57:42 2011 No.7439494 Take it easy, /jp/!

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:57:42 2011 No.7439496

>>7439466
Ok, I think your perception of that response as
violent is just a generation gap thing.

Anyway about Japan's music nowadays; try looking up Yoko Kanno on youtube sometime. She does jazz, classical, rock, trance, metal and more. Here's a few examples if you're interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6zDfxZ4NcE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1clgyPLkUg

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:59:42 2011 No.7439499 >>7439496 Yeah, she's awesome. I like Yuki Kajiura as well. Kara no Kyoukai OST was fantastic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 02:08:42 2011 No.7439539 My preferred method of existence in Gensokyo would be as a youkai.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 02:13:42 2011 No.7439565

>>7439466
>Oh no, his mental instability is not related directly to his telling me to 'fuck off': he was known to be unstable before this revelation and is drawing upon violence to protect his world summary

I was 'known to be unstable', was I? Well, that's very interesting, 'cause that's the first I've heard of it.
You know, part of the reason I resort to 'drawing upon violence to protect his world summary' is because sometimes violence is the only language thick-headed, narrow-minded people like you understand. I could spend all day trying to reason with you, and I'd get nowhere. So what does that leave me with, hm?

>I was told to kill myself, the violence is obvious
No you weren't, stop making things up.

>This thread has alsready proven it: your desires to escape to another world, to engage in love of 2D: these are not healthy
Lies, the only thing this thread has proven is how much of a persistant pain in the ass you are.
Now, while I may be an anti-social shut-in, I have no desire to escape to another world, or engage in 2D love. Try again.
Oh, one more thing. You wandering in here and tarring everyone with the same 'escapism/2D love/shut-in/etc.' brush & then assuming you know every little thing about us & that you know how to 'help' us is downright ignorant and insulting, and don't you dare try to claim otherwise.

>>7439485
Yeah, we should.
Too bad I've got nothing better to do.

>>7439496
>>7439499
>>7439539
Bugger off, you lot, I haven't finished arguing with him yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 02:17:42 2011 No.7439582 >>7439565 Appeal to incorrectness.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 02:20:42 2011 No.7439595 >>7439582 Appeal to X is now a meme >>7439539 I'd rather be a fairy. Actually, no, I'd rather be a rabbit at Eientei

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 02:24:42 2011 No.7439619 So basically this guy finally realized that he couldn't convince happy people that they were secretly depressive wrecks who need psychological help and left.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 02:29:42 2011 No.7439644

I'm a strong-minded introvert. I have a well-paying job, a house, a car, and am a respected person around my peers.
My hobbies include but are not limited to translating foreign work, reading and collecting rare and unique manga and visual novels, reading flavourful books, programming, composing and practicing music with my keyboard and piano, and drinking and comparing different kinds of beer.

I strongly dislike social groups, even ones that discuss my interests. I feel saturated and exhausted by them. If forced to stay for an entire day, I'd feel exhausted. I don't want a family, and am completely uninterested in raising a family. I've went on 7 dates, all of which I found boring and not my taste in the types of activities. I make as little social interaction around my peers as possible, and avoid all social opportunities that present themselves to me. I'm a very hard worker at what I do and show efforts that of a absolute-perfectionist, so I'm very good at things, even more so with my hobbies that I like.
I enjoy being alone to enjoy the things I like. I feel energized, refreshed, enlightened, and at bliss. If I could, I'd stay at home and never talk to anyone ever at all, so long as I have all the things I like, such as my beer, PC, and keyboard.

I do not have any problems with other people, and it's easy for me to make an initiative and hold conversations, but I dislike doing it. I'd much rather enjoy myself alone.

I have no problems with myself and view myself as a fine, upstanding and stable citizen and a contributer to society.
The purpose of this trivia about myself is to prove that introverted people like me think differently than extroverted people like some in this thread.
Anyone who has a problem with this way of life I have, I view them as either a zealot that cannot accept the fact that some people want to be alone and have no real interest in socializing hand having friends, or cannot understand it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 02:37:42 2011 No.7439682 >>7439619 yeap, guess so. so uh, touhou thread? I still say Gensokyo is better than the real world. It has magic and people who can shoot laser beams. That alone already makes it more ineresting

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 04:57:42 2011 No.7440132 >>7439682 Touhou thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 19:52:42 2011 No.7442649 >>7437224 Unless you have a penis, and your name's not Morichika Rinnosuke.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 19:58:42 2011 No.7442673 Gensokyo sucks for people like us. In CoLA Rinnosuke said that people from the outside world always live and die alone...that's already the case for most of /jp/ in our world.

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