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今日も派手に荒らされてるなぁ。

って事で日本語スレ

>> No.7244794

┐(  ̄3 ̄)┌

It can't be helped

>> No.7244807

あい
どんと
すぴーぐ
じゃぱにーず

>> No.7244813
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7244813

わーい

>> No.7244833

ワーイヽ(゚∀゚)メ(゚∀゚)メ(゚∀゚)ノワーイ

>> No.7244840

この板はもう終了って事で(゜∀。)ワヒャヒャヒャヒャヒャヒャ

>> No.7244847
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>>7244840

>> No.7244848

毎日勉強している、でもあたしの日本語は未だ上手じゃないよ・・・

>> No.7244863

>>7244848
ガンガレ

>> No.7244875

>>7244848
それは違うだよ、君の日本語はいいと思う。

>> No.7244881

キタ---(゜∀゜)---!!

>> No.7244882

>>7244848
俺の人生の物語だぜ

>> No.7244883
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>>7244848
その気分は分かてるわよw

>> No.7244892

>>7244883
×気分
○気持ち

>> No.7244907

/jp/ - 下手日本語/General

自分も例外じゃないし

>> No.7244909

>>7244892
Both are correct.

>> No.7244918

왜이 스레드 ...

>> No.7244919

>>7244907
×下手日本語
●下手な日本語

>>7244909
Nope, 気分 and 気持ち are two similar but different non-interchangeable things in this case.

>> No.7244920

皆下手すぎwww
外人がんばれーwwwwwww

>> No.7244921

>>7244875
嘘つきだよね
あたしの日本語はダメだ。 そして、げんそきょう行きたがり。

>> No.7244928

>>7244920
草生やしてる厨房のお前よりは上手いかと(ry

>> No.7244934
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>>7244892
あっ悪い悪い
勉強からに戻る
すまんなかったね~

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>>7244918

>> No.7244948

>>7244921
私は嘘をついてじゃなかった、君が嘘つき

>げんそきょう行きたがり
私も

>> No.7244969

>>7244948
じゃ、あたしの日本語は下手じゃないから、あたしと結婚している?

>> No.7244970
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>>7244934
>>7244948

>> No.7244972

>>7244939
하! 감지 쪽발이!

>> No.7244980

>げんそきょう行きたがり
げんそきょうに行きたがり*

>> No.7244988

>>7244980
×げんそきょう
●げんそうきょう

×に行きたがり
●に行きたい

頑張れ

>> No.7244990

>>7244969
げんそきょう行ったら、女の子同士になっちゃうかも。それでも結婚は大丈
夫か?

>> No.7245021
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>>7244988
本当にありがとうございました

>> No.7245025

翻訳家は数少なければ少ないほど俺の未来に良い

皆日本語諦めてくれw

>> No.7245027

내 일본어는 잘 못하지만 것이다입니다
僕の日本語は下手だろうです

>> No.7245042

>>7244990
もちろん!
げんそうきょうで皆レズな人や妖怪

>> No.7245063 [DELETED] 

>>7244988
「行きたがり」と「いきたい」の差は何?

>> No.7245070

/jp/の最高のスレ来たあああああああああああ

>> No.7245071

俺登場!

元気に荒らしているカイ?
みんなで荒らしていこうじゃないか~

>> No.7245078

/jp/ should be renamed B本

and the language being spoken here called B本語

for obvious reasons, or so i hope

>> No.7245080

>>7244988
「行きたがり」と「いきたい」の違いは何?

>> No.7245116

>>7245080
I'm not him, but I think you use たがる when you describe what someone else wants to do

like 田中さんは食べたがる

>> No.7245118

現在日本に住んでる奴いる?

今度どっか遊びに行こうよ

寂しいよ

>> No.7245119

>>7245080
自分のことなら、「-たい」をつけたほうがいい
他人のことなら、「-がり」をすけたほうがいい
。。。と思うだけど自信があまりありません

>> No.7245132

「行きたがり」は期待してるの感じ

>> No.7245139

>>7245118
4chanのキチガイに殺される恐れがありますので遠慮します

>>7245080
「たがり」は大抵示す意味が二つあります:
1 したい事の傾向・性格(例:たたきたがりや、きたがりや、しりたがり
や)
2 他人のしたいこと(例:「彼はカレーを食べたがっている」)

1の方がより珍しい

>> No.7245149

僕はまだ一年生だから下手ですよ。 だが漢字はとっても面白いんですが時
々難しいと思います。 そして毎日がんばります!

>> No.7245152

>>7245139
ここにいるって事はあなたもキチガイだって事だろう?

>> No.7245157

koneko wa kawaii desu ne~
neko to o-pocky ga daaaaisuki desu
>>7245025
honnyakka tte tumaranasasou ja nai ka
tsuka shinpai sunna
zettai naritaku nai kara na

>> No.7245164

>>7245149
don't use the "but" version of ga twice in one sentence like that, its awkward

>> No.7245179

>>7245116
>>7245119
>>7245139
Ah, cool. I learned something today.

>> No.7245186

キチガイって英語訳ください

>> No.7245189

>>7245157
多分もう労働以外の人生の最後の可能な職業選択だから仕方がない

本当は生物系科学者が夢だったけど結局失敗。

こんな事言ってるけど、翻訳家ってのも労働に近いものだと言う想像もあり
ます…もうダメぽ、俺の未来は。

>> No.7245194

>>7245186
Crazy
Nutcase
Psycho
Autist but only on /jp/

>> No.7245196

>>7245189
へえマジ?
翻訳がどうやって労働的だか分からん

>> No.7245197

>>7245152
賢いな君は、流石4chan賢い

>> No.7245201

>>7245189
むずいとおもったら失格じゃない?
通訳者は何倍上に苦労してるでしょうが
実時間で今まで身に着けたもの全部尽くしてやれべぬ

翻訳者の勤めは労働だと?
お前は本当にいい加減な外人だな.

>> No.7245206

>>7245196
7245189じゃないけど
パソコンから離れて外に出るのが労働なんです

>> No.7245213

>>7245206
労働ってのしてんのか?

>> No.7245211 [DELETED] 

>>7245196
×どうやてって
●なぜ

×労働的だか
●労働的なのか

頑張れ

>> No.7245218

>>7245196
×どうやって
●なぜ

×労働的だか
●労働的なのか

頑張れ

>> No.7245224

>>7245196
ただの想像だけど、翻訳家の種類・質によると思う

例えば、言語を幾つか話せるなら労働的なものにならないと思うけど(むし
ろ快適な事。出張たのしいそうなたにしそう)。だが、日本語と英語しか
読めないなら商戦でかなりキツイかと。

まあ、就職機会があれば何でもありと思う。でも、このままではそりゃ賭に
過ぎないから多分未来は韓国語でもに挑戦してみる(日本語の文法に似て
いるそうですし)。

>> No.7245230

>>7245224
労働か否かは難しさとは無関係。
難しかろうと簡単だろうと労働は労働。

>> No.7245236

>>7245218
>>7245196 じゃないけど
両方使えるぞ?
今頃「的」に付けた名詞は形容詞になるから「です/だ」でも正しくと言え
るでしょう.

>> No.7245239

>>7245206
うn

言葉の間違いだったかもしれないけどとにかく「仕事が設けなくて仕事あっ
ても暇がない程仕事につとめなければならない」と言う事を表現したかっ
た。

>> No.7245241

>>7245213
いや、私は/jp/民らしくひきこもってる

>> No.7245243

>>7245239
労働より苦労だろう
労働というと体力を尽くすような仕事を趣旨する

>> No.7245250

>>7245230
「労働的」って「終わりのない仕事」と言う含意もあるかと思うけどとりあ
えず正確なら訂正をありがとう。

>> No.7245257

Preezu speek Engurishu.

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7245263

59ポストと7個のイメージは省略応答します。表示するために、返信をクリッ
クしてください。

>> No.7245273

>>7245243
そうですね

「苦労」は適切って事でいい。ふと思えば「翻訳家はある意味労働より軽い
仕事ではないと言う想像もあります」って表現したかったのでつい「労働
」をつかっちゃいました。

糞スレの削除も始めたようですのでそろそろsage進行で行こうかな

>> No.7245289

>>7245250
違います.

>> No.7245297

オ ハイ グイセ ウァツ ゴイング オノ イヌ ヂス フレアド?

>> No.7245309
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7245309

こちのダブルスチェックをください

>> No.7245336

書くのが下手だから
例え日本ヘ行っても仕事見つからないだろう
せいぜいラノベ作家が限界

>> No.7245346

>>7245309
I lol'd even though I knew what it was going to say as soon as I saw the pic.

>> No.7245373

すみません
日本は分からない。。。
教えてください!

>> No.7245377

>>7245373
俺らだって日本のことあまり分らないからそれを聞かれてもな…

>> No.7245398

>>7245373
shinsai de owata kuni da yo

>> No.7245404
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Japanese minister eating Fukushima strawberry

>> No.7245412

このスレはごみ

del

>> No.7245418

>>7245404
Still waiting until his jaw falls off.

>> No.7245425

wwwwwwwwwww

>> No.7245428

日本に行った事あるけど

当時はあまりにもレベル低くて「まじで」とか言うReally?の和訳知らず

幼女みたいに「本当に?」とか言いまくった

恥ずかしい

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>>7245428
>恥ずかしい

>> No.7245437

くそスレ

>> No.7245458
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7245458

>relying on google translate

>> No.7245484

このスレきもいだぜ

>> No.7245503

>>7245484
お前が言うな

>> No.7245512

>>7245484
( ´∀`)< オマエモナー

>> No.7245523

>>7245458
でも、パパが大好きだよ
ドナルド・ミーチェルはGOOGLEのパパから、GOOGLEも大好きだと思う

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7245530

I have 3 years in Japanese and I can't read shit.
Thanks for ruining my day /jp/.

>> No.7245537

>>7245530
What have you been doing in those 3 years, staying stuck at home all day browsing 4chan? Chatting up with a small group of foreign friends? Just being in Japan doesn't magically teach the language to you, otherwise all the fuckers that spent 20 years in America would know English by now.

>> No.7245544

Okay you don't know shit about japan, so please use language you understand.

>> No.7245556

>>7245544
Oh, the irony.

>> No.7245569

>>7245537
okay now I'm confused. you start out asking if I just stayed on 4chan then you go onto say just being in Japan doesn't teach you the language. one contradicts the other.

>> No.7245574

Yea the mods are ok.

>> No.7245605

>>7245569
I'm assuming he thought you meant you had been in Japan for three years. And also under the impression that you thought you'd simply absorb the language just by being there.

>> No.7245612

>>7245605
no I took a course, I don't plan on visiting japan anytime soon.

>> No.7245625 [DELETED] 

>>7245569
I had no idea living in Japan affects your ability to visit 4chan.

He's saying you have to make an active effort to learn the language, just living there won't make you fluent.

>> No.7245629

ITT: Weeaboos showing off their power levels to each other

>> No.7245632

>>7245625
If I took the time and effort to visit Japan why would I waste the entire trip on 4chan? Are you fucking retarded or something?

>> No.7245636

Itt : not enough youmu.

>> No.7245637

No you took a course, you don't plan on visiting japan anytime soon. I'd go with the first anon; Fuck off, I don't want to talk with you if you are going to be like that. He probably doesn't want retarded mods fucking with his site.

>> No.7245645

it's too bad /lang/ is dead

i would actually use it if people posted there, if only to practice since i have no one to talk to although i read japanese all day

>> No.7245656

今日の一曲

Progress - kokua (Shikao Suga)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-d-0YmRagY

>> No.7245685

起こるはずのないことが、現実になり
人は誰も 無力さを思い知る
何が正しいのか どこへ行けばいいのか
見失って 引き返すことさえできない

愛するものを守るため
立ち上がり 歩き続けても
果てしない道程に
疲れ果て 力尽き 声も出ない...

笑顔になれない 悲しいときには
どうか思い出してみて
生きてさえいれば 何かが生まれる
生きてさえいれば 報われる
だから負けないで
ひとりじゃないから

Egao - Aya Matsuura
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRC3uESsJlc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTeNZWvV3no#t=70s

>> No.7245713

>>7245569
No, they don't contradict each other at all. If you go to Mexico and sat home all day browsing 4chan, you're not going to learn Spanish. Just because you're in the country doesn't mean the language will sink in like magic.

Similarly, just being in Japan doesn't mean you'll learn Japanese if you don't actually take the initiative to do so. You're not doing any better than if you stood in your home country if you're just going to create an English bubble that you stay within.

>>7245632

I dunno, but I've only been studying Japanese for a year and can read most of the thread just fine, even posted a bit as well. And this is from the comfort of my own home. If you're spending 3 years in Japan and don't know much Japanese, it's only logical to assume you're not actually doing any Japanese activities over there to really learn the language. It's not an uncommon story, happens all the time. People visit a country and live there for years but never learn the language because they sit down with a channel they find in their native language at home, and only talk to people that speak their native language. So it doesn't matter where they live, they're not really learning anything because they refuse to learn. I can't imagine someone spending 3 years in Japan and actively learning every single day wouldn't be able to read this thread. I don't even study hardcore. The only hardcore studying I've ever done was kanji grinding. After that I took it easy, but I at least did at least some Japanese studies every single day so that I didn't fall into the "I'll do it tomorrow" cycle and keep momentum.

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>>7245645
その感じ知っている

>> No.7245740

大阪へ出て来てから
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJCLeLwieb4

>> No.7245753
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>>7245612
Japanese teachers can be helpful, but in most classes the pace is too slow. They teach you like 5 kanji a week, when you should be learning 10 a day. And once you're mostly done with kanji, there are still a million jukugo and hiragana phrases you have to learn. Japanese teachers don't really let on how vast the language is.

>> No.7245788

大阪に住んでる翻訳家としての見方では、このレスに出る日本語は信じられ
ないぐらいおかしい

でも確かに、母国語が日本語の人は1,2人ぐらいかも

とにかく、いい加減に黙れ、アホたち

>> No.7245812

>>7245753
The smart thing to do is to use classes as small supplements while doing the majority of the learning on your own. Having a native speaker that can guide you along the way is always nice, so is strengthening the foundation of your knowledge through course work. But you shouldn't think that you'll learn the language by attending classes, because it won't work. I'm sure there are non-English native speakers in this thread awake right now (its their time zone after all) that can tell you that they learned English through immersion. I doubt many of them attended classes and didn't take initiative on their own to learn via web comics or video games or whatever.

For anyone taking Japanese classes, please don't think that you'll really learn the language from a 3 hour per week course, because you won't. Practice every day, learn on your own, use classes as formal guidance, but it should never be your main source of Japanese.

In Japanese classes you can tell who learns on their own and who uses the class as their main mode of studying. Not because they make the most mistakes, even studying outside the class may not prepare you for some of the grammatical rules, since you'd most likely have learned them in a different manner and it may or may not be cemented in your head yet.

But the ones that have the horrible accents and pause to read every word? The ones that read every syllable separately instead of making them flow together? Those are usually the ones that don't do anything outside of class. But I'm not trying to make fun of them, I'm just saying that you don't want to be like that. Learn on your own 90% more than you're learning from class. That doesn't mean cramming grammar books like crazy, just doing a set amount of kanji per day and immersing yourself in Japanese (turn those subtitles off if you're watching anime) help.

>> No.7245817

In the beginning I felt like it was pointless to immerse myself so much if I knew so little, but I'm really glad I did. Even if you don't think you're understanding, you're gradually molding your brain into being able to pick up Japanese, and into tearing down the sound filter. You're picking up on words without realizing. There were plenty of times I didn't know a word, but when thinking to myself in Japanese it would pop up and I'd think "wait, does that mean what I think it means?" and look it up to find that it does. But I wouldn't remember where I first heard the word or how many times I heard it, but it was obviously planted in my head without me knowing.

Reading manga, watching Japanese stuff, listening to Japanese music (actually focusing on the lyrics) all count to Japanese learning. And they're just as important as grinding vocabulary or kanji or whatever. In the end, seeing and hearing the language in a natural environment really does have great importance.

>> No.7245897

>>7245817
I keep reading eroge/manga in Japanese, but I get so demotivated when I read the English translation equivalent and realize how wrong my comprehension of mostly everything I read in Japanese was. I comprehend everything too literally and the context gets fucked up, then nothing makes sense at all. I can truly understand what I'm reading maybe about 30% of the time, the rest I just get a vague gist of. If it was a nukige then 70%.

Oh well, I'll just keep reading. I guess it'll click to me sooner or later.

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It's like I'm really on Futaba channel

>> No.7245906

脂肪外国人wwww

>> No.7245933

why the hell would you want to learn this shitty language anyway?

>> No.7245934

よっしゃーここで言語天才のオレ降臨ー

自学四年目、日本にはまだ行ったことない
ネットとエロゲーだけでもここまで辿り着けるもんだなぁと最近よく思って
きた

発音もほぼ完璧らしいだが敬語がなっていないと去年日本のおばさんからの
指摘が来た。なんだよそれ。そんで良く考えたら掲示板で敬語で書き込む
ヤツなんざほぼいないことに気付いた

よってお前らのせいでFA

>> No.7245942

So I can fully enjoy my loser hobby. Why else?

I'd learn Mandarin or Spanish if I wanted something useful

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7245947

出店で発見
特選和牛ステーキらしい
値段が書いてなかったけどいくらするんだろうか

>> No.7246153

>>7245934
2ちゃんばっかりしているからだよw
日本語検定は何級?

>> No.7246274

>>7246153

検定取ったことありません。
この前に「よっしゃちょっと日検2級でも取っちゃおうか」で奮起して友人
に言ったら

友人「なぜ?需要でもあるわけ?」
オレ「いやただ取りたいだけなんだ、実力の証明みたいな・・・」
友人「まさかとは思わないが、お前証書に有効期間がある事を知らないのか
?」
オレ「( ゚д゚)」
友人「取りたいだけとか金の無駄しかならんぞ」
オレ「マジかよ・・・」

でショボーンになったけど、その後調べたら、証書そのものに有効期間は
ないんだが、日本に留学したいなら学校側からは証書の取得時間とか色々
条件がありそうなことは分かった。

それ以来検定についてに触ることはまだ無いんですね。

>> No.7246424

おまえら日本人やろ!日本人が一生懸命外国人のフリしたってすぐバレてま
うんやで?正直に白状せいや!

>> No.7246452

お兄ちゃん、子供だって、えっちしたい。
今日も、いっぱい、いっぱい可愛がって下さいね。

>> No.7246457

Take this shit to /int/.

>> No.7246460

>>7246424
この掲示板をよく見てみ
外国人の中でも誰も英語ができないからそんな事はない。アメリカ人の殆ど
も英語が中途半端なもので、ただイギリス人に「イギリスじんじやない..
.かも」って思われるだけ。

>> No.7246462

한국어 강한 것입니다. 자세히 한국어, 일본어 없습니다. 일본 문화가 한국 문화를 훔친 것입니다.

>> No.7246473

>>7246462
ウォ

ついに4chanに落書きを書き込める機能も登場なのか!

>> No.7246481

>>7246473
  ∧_∧ 
   <丶`∀´>  KOREAN SCRIPT IS NOBLE AND BEAUTIFUL! I DEMAND APOLOGYJUICE NIDA!
   (    ) 
   | | |   
   〈_フ__フ. 

>> No.7246483

>>7246462
gb2/kr/

>> No.7246494

>>7246457
おいおい
おまえ怒ってるか?ゆっくりしていってください

>> No.7246508

>>7245530
I have to agree with the ret here. I've only been studying Japanese for ~6 months (on my own) and I can read around 70-80% of what is written in this thread. If you've been learning for 3 years I don't see any reason why you "can't read shit" other thn you haven't been really studying.

>> No.7246510

>>7245530
learning hiragana is the first thing you do on japanese lessons and it takes a month at worst. if you can't read shit after 3 years of learning than sorry, you suck.

>> No.7246517

>>7246510
>Hiragana
>A month
Doing it wrong

>> No.7246537

ファクユがイづ!

>> No.7246541

>>7245933
So you won't be able to understand anything

>> No.7246546

>>7246517
Believe it or not, that's how long it takes for normals to learn hiragana.

>> No.7246553

>>7246517
>>7246546
A month?
are you freaking insane?
It took me 2 days to actually learn it, and something like 5 more days of casual checking until I knew them all perfectly (not to the extent of reading it as fast as romanji, but I can recognise all of them almost instantly)

>> No.7246565

片言の書き込みもあるけど、正直それでもすごいね。
十分言いたいことがわかる。
日本人がどれだけ英語に時間やお金を費やすか知ってるかな?
それでもほとんどの人間が片言さえできずに終わってく。
英語は聞きとるのが難しすぎ、それで本から学ぶことが多くなる、でもそれ
はかなり辛いことなんだよ。
英語圏でばんばん漫画作って輸出してくれ、それで勉強できるならすこしは
楽になる。

>> No.7246570

>>7246565
Kanji on the other hand. I'm rather shit at.

>> No.7246573

>>7246553
What did you do to memorize them all quickly? I only know like 10 characters off the top of my head and whenever I try to learn more I just forgot them the next day.

>> No.7246580
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7246580

Silly copy & pasters. If anyone on /jp/ was actually fluent in Japanese they wouldn't need to be on an English language imageboard.

>> No.7246582

>>7246573
I used a program called Slime forest adventure.
http://lrnj.com/
If you select "Sample curriculum" from the main menu you can do it like that. And I literally just sat there for hours until I could complete the "game" without dying. I don't know how, but it just seemed to stick in my head using that Program.

>> No.7246585

>>7246546
I learned all the kana in three hours, and I'm a fucking idiot. It's memorizing new shapes and sounds. Three year olds can do it.

>> No.7246586

>>7246580
>If anyone knows another language, they must never use their mother tongue again
Woah that makes sense!
Although I do have to say i'm quite doubtful of the people on this board that actually know a lot of Japanese.

>> No.7246592 [DELETED] 

>>7246582
>>7246573
Then, after I had learned them, I went back the next day and played again until I completed it. I did that for about a week. I know hiragana and katakana know almost perfectly.

>> No.7246594 [DELETED] 

>>7246582
>>7246573
Then, after I had learned them, I went back the next day and played again until I completed it. I did that for about a week. I now hiragana and katakana know almost perfectly.

>> No.7246597

>>7246582
>>7246573
Then, after I had learned them, I went back the next day and played again until I completed it. I did that for about a week. I now know hiragana and katakana almost perfectly.

>> No.7246605

>>7246582
So now you don't know the correct stroke order and will have problems writing them?

>> No.7246610
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7246610

>>7246580
Yeah because clearly once you can speak Japanese, you're suddenly allowed to post on futaba and not totally blocked anymore.

Not to mention, once you can read what they're saying it's really not that different from here, except they have some kind of super-autism arguments sometimes that would make even /jp/ users seem like upstanding citizens.

>> No.7246617

>>7246605
No I learned stroke order from other stuff. But SFA is an amazing program to learn the characters themselves.

>> No.7246620

Japanese grammar confuses me. Particularly the adjectives.

>> No.7246621

>>7246580
I can't be assed to find and replace japanese proxies all the time just to post things like "I played this and I liked it".
And futaba is so huge it's actually bothersome, here I have to check just one board and maybe a couple of threads at the same time, there you have a specific thread for each game, specific threads for companies, general "which seiyuu would you like to fuck"-like random threads, event-specific threads, if you can think it can have a thread then it has one.
It's fine for that one time where you need live coverage or something specific but otherwise, frankly, it's simply too bothersome to follow.

>> No.7246649

どうしたみんな本語スレじゃね?

>> No.7246656

ねぇ。。。大きな揺れるおっぱいを見せて。勃起があるよ。あなたのお尻に
固いちんちんを挿入したい。手伝ってください。あとは膣を舐めたい。い
くまで舐める。

>> No.7246672 [DELETED] 

オレ ハ ニッポン

>> No.7246675

>>7246656
エロイエロイ

>> No.7246679

>>7246672
なにが言いたいんだー

>> No.7246700

>>7246582
what's it like for kanji

>> No.7246710

4chanはように萌えです〜

>> No.7246715

>>7246700
Its good, but I dont think it gives the om readings.
You will have to check, I barely used the kanji part.

>> No.7246724

>>7246610
i'm pretty sure 4chan(maybe you? not sure exactly which kinds of arguments you're talking about) mistakes in-depth thought for autism

>> No.7246726

報告した。

>> No.7246738

I can read and listen like a boss but when it comes to making my own sentances I dont know what the hell I'm doing

>> No.7246741

Yeah, so i've been learning for like 1 1/2 years. The worst part is learning vocabulary. It takes for fucking ever. You seriously have to play eroge ALL FUCKING DAY (which is okay really) for shit to sink in. At least I do. And IMO it is a good idea to straight up memorize like at least 700 kanji before you play anything. But after that learn them on the fly. And don't use fucking flashcards after that, especially for vocab. That shit is a waste of time. All you need to do is read your fucking ass off, read guides and ask questions.

>> No.7246776

>>7246741

あと2chで日本人たちと罵り合いとか釣り合戦とか

>> No.7246792

>>7246776
タノシソウデスネ

>> No.7246816

>>7246776
それをしようとする

>> No.7246849

>>7246741
>You seriously have to play eroge ALL FUCKING DAY

Exactly.

Eroge everyday.

>> No.7246851

>>7246726
reported

>> No.7246854

>>7246741
the one thing I've noticed in japanese is that learning its vocabulary is much harder than in other languages

>> No.7246863

>>7246854
I find japanese vocab hard to learn because completely different words can mean the same thing, and words that are very similar can mean completely the different thing. But its the same in english really.

>> No.7246875

Where do I even begin learning japanese sentence structure?

>> No.7246877

To really learn some vocab, you need to play/read something long. Where they say the same shit over and over. Find a short eroge, play it every day till it's done, and you should come out of that shit with a game under your belt and a bunch of new vocab.

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