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7010471 No.7010471 [Reply] [Original]

Is Gen Urobuchi a genius?

>> No.7010475

He's a hell of a troll.

Saying kyube is from cute when it's from inkyubeta.

>> No.7010507

>>7010475

Because it's a cute inkyuubeta

>> No.7010509

>>7010475
I think it was just his attempt to sway people away from people thinking he was evil. People started thinking it before they even had evidence just because they thought he was creepy. They were right, but he probably didn't want them to realize so quickly.

>> No.7010533

>>7010471
>>7010475
>>7010507
>>7010509
>>>/a/

Reported.

>> No.7010549

>>7010533

Butthurt

>>>/soc/

>> No.7010566

>Genius
lol
He's not bad though.
Too bad SHAFT ruined everything with no budget, lol
Also, /a/

>> No.7010568

>>7010509
People started thinking he was evil because a protagonist said he was evil in the first episode. This was not even hidden or foreshadowed, it was outright stated from the start.

>> No.7010581

>>7010568
She was presented as an antagonist at that point, and didn't directly say anything like that.

>> No.7010582

>>7010566
>>7010533

Otakus love Madoka.
/jp/-Otaku culture.

Now shut up.

>> No.7010588

>>7010581

But nobody would think Homu homu was the bad one, she just looked as the cool silent character. And less after she tried to kind of help Madoka.

>> No.7010589

>>7010582
Don't make me summon White Ren, /a/sperger.

>> No.7010592

>>7010581
Failed the Turing test, didn't you?

>> No.7010602

>>7010592
I don't get it. How can a human being fail a Turing test? What do you mean?

>> No.7010606

>>7010602
Exactly.

>> No.7010613

>>7010602
He obviously meant to say something else... But, yeah, technically it can. All you need to do is to make the other person think you're a machine.

Also, Turing Test tests intelligence, not humanity. Some people will fail it simply due to stupidity and inability to comprehend the other person. See the entirety of /b/ for an example.

/jp/ - Semantics.

(Also, get this shit out to /a/, I still haven't watched the latest episode and don't want to be spoiled on /jp/ of all places.)

>> No.7010618

>>7010592
You said a protagonist said he was evil in the first episode. Don't backtrack and reference what you learned in high school philosophy yesterday.

Where does that happen?

>> No.7010620

>>7010613
He's calling that person stupid, you moron. Christ.

>> No.7010626

>>7010618
Still failing that Turing and stuck chained to the cave wall, I see.

>> No.7010628

>>7010618
You're right. She just wanted to kill him out of love. Silly me.

>> No.7010632

>>7010628
In other words, you're completely backpedaling. She said nothing of the sort. Thank you.

>> No.7010636

>>7010632
Not the guy you're replying to, but stop acting smug when you're obviously aggressively retarded. You thought he wasn't evil in the first episode? Yes, it pretty much was said word for word. I'm sorry you can't read between the lines.

This is why you should need a minimum IQ score to use the internet.

>> No.7010641

>>7010636
>seriously replying to /a/ spammer
>making me greentext
Stop this.

>> No.7010646

>>7010636
>Yes, it pretty much was said word for word.
>I'm sorry you can't read between the lines.
Make up your mind. Either it's "outright stated from the start" and "not even hidden or foreshadowed" or you have to read between the lines to guess at it. He was claiming one at the start, then switched to the other because he was wrong.

>> No.7010649

>>7010646
Do you think any of us give a shit? You showed yourself retarded on the internet. Just slink away, pretend this never happened. Nobody will notice next time you post because you're anonymous. Do you understand that? Can you grasp at least the basics of what I'm saying? I'm trying to state it as blatantly as possible, but I never know with you.

Or maybe you can't slink away because 1. you're too retarded to see the sense in doing so and 2. you're just going to prove yourself an idiot the next time you open your fat virgin mouth anyway.

>> No.7010654

ITT: Typical SHAFT fanboys.

>> No.7010658

>>7010646
>"You don't want to get involved with that creature, now walk away and let me kill it."

HAY GUYZ, I THINKING THAT COOBIE IZ GUD MAGICS

>> No.7010659

ITT: /a/

>> No.7010660

>>7010649
>>7010636
Calm down. I'm not sure why you're getting so mad about this. You don't have to insult him simply because he didn't understand the character's intentions in the first episode, no matter how obvious they may have been. It's not such a big deal.

>> No.7010667

>>7010658
That isn't a line in the episode, unless you're using some kind of group that just adds in things that just weren't presented in the Japanese script.

And even if it actually was, that is still not a direct statement that he is evil. That isn't "outright stated." This isn't about whether it was obvious or not. By obvious, you really mean you could probably infer it. But you don't need to infer things that are outright stated.

Typical example of one side being factually wrong but winning through numbers.

>> No.7010670

>>7010667
>HELP HELP I'M BEING REPRESSED
You are priceless. You are not championing some great cause. You are just showing how bogglingly stupid you are on the internet over an anime. A cartoon. But fuck, you can't even comprehend what's going on in that cartoon. It WAS directly stated for anyone who isn't you.

>> No.7010675

>>7010667
Oh wow. You're going by the Japanese script now are you? Whose backpedaling now? I can bet that I know more Japanese than you, as I don't even know how you managed to learn English in the first place. How ironic, when you were talking about high school philosophy classes before because you were insulted when he referenced something you had to look up on wikipedia, you're trying to say what was and wasn't in the Japanese script with your high school Japanese knowledge. If you understand it, why are you using subs at all? Knowing "kawaii" and "desu" does not make you Japanese, weeaboo.

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>> No.7010683

>>7010675
Your /a/ is showing.
>>>/a/

>> No.7010689

>>7010675
sage for offtopic, you should undertstand like that.

>> No.7010693

>>7010675
>your /a/ is showing
It's an /a/ topic, bro.
>>7010689
Not heard of nokosage?

>> No.7010694

>You're going by the Japanese script now are you?

Um... was there ever a point where he implied he wasn't? Isn't it common sense to go by that anyway? What the hell.

I don't even watch anime(get your asses back to /a/, all of you) so I have no idea who's right here, but come on.

>> No.7010700

>>7010675
Well, why don't you tell me where that line is supposed to be from? All she says is "そいつからはな離れて". Now tell me where you can get "you don't want to get involved with that creature" or "let me kill it" from that. If you're getting that, you're just using a translator that's making things up.

>> No.7010702

I guess I didn't need to worry about getting spoiled; I had just started downloading yesy's release, refreshed /jp/ and see >Gen Urobuchi and I went oh fuck I'm outta here.

Come back after watching and only the OP image has any real spoilers anyway.

>> No.7010707

>>7010700
I'm not the one who posted that line, you fucktard. Can you not even comprehend the concept of different posters? I know this is an anonymous board and all, but try. That aside, you're trying to say that google translate or whatever piss weak machine translation you're utilizing says X about a line and someone who actually knows and translates Japanese doesn't know better than said machine? You may fail the Turing test, but other people normally pass it just fine. Fuck, if you had the slightest educational background you'd know that a common criticism of the test involves a language translation analogy that highlights how stupid machines are. Go elsewhere with your THEY'RE NOT STAYING PURE TO THE SCRIPT BAWW GLORIOUS NIPPON IS DISGRACED nitpicking. If you knew the first thing about Japanese or language in general, you'd know that things don't translate correctly. Things need to be localized. No, it's not making it up. It's smoothing out the sentence so your fucktarded mind can comprehend it (although clearly it failed here).

>> No.7010712

>>7010707
You clearly don't have a real argument and I'm probably just being trolled.

>> No.7010709

>>7010707
You are the one failing the Turing test here. And I'm not speaking figuratively.

>> No.7010718

>>7010709
>>7010712
Hello samefag. Funny you should bring up proper argument with your whole high school philosophy insult. "Proper argument" is the first thing wannabe intellectuals become obsessed with when they read the idiot's guide to philosophy. What next, going to accuse me of begging the question or ad hominem?

>> No.7010719

>>7010707
Yeah... um, what the hell are you even going on about. You kind of got lost on a weird unrelated tangent

>> No.7010722

>Can you not even comprehend the concept of different posters?
>Hello samefag.

Heh...

>> No.7010740

>>7010707
look that's a very basic japanese line. (he did write what the kanji is spoken like before the kanji in hiragana for no reason though).
If you cant even read that you should stop posting.

>> No.7010741

What a horrible thread.

>> No.7010750 [DELETED] 

Great ideas, bad execution.
I haven't watched Madoka, but when it started I expected it to start somewhat sucking from halfway and seems like I was right.

>> No.7010753

Great ideas, bad execution.
I haven't watched Madoka, but when it started I expected it to start somewhat sucking from halfway and seems like I was right.

>> No.7010763

>>7010753
What the hell did you want, cute girls doing cute things?

WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE NEVER SATISFIED

>> No.7010769

>>7010753
>>7010763
Why are you talking about anime on /jp/?

>> No.7010770

Laughing at the one guy in this thread pretending to be some expert Japanese and a philosopher at. Get back to /a/ you smug fuck.

>> No.7010775

>>7010753
they actually stick with the general direction they started out with instead of throwing everything established out of the window.

>> No.7010777

>>7010763
As I said I haven't watched Madoka yet. I played Phantom and watched Blassreiter and both lacked some sort of coherence. There were lame and plain bad scenes after the awesome initial setup of the plot was done.

>> No.7010781

>>7010777
Same with Saya no Uta in my opinion. I loved the start but the endings were awful.

>> No.7010793

>>7010781
Sure it would be nice to have good endings too, but they just wouldnt fit SnU.

>> No.7010794

>>7010781
Oh right, it was written by him too.

>> No.7010796

>>7010753
Don't forget the QUALITY SHAFT fights.

>> No.7010815

Not sure why the butthurt Mami fans didn't drop madoka yet.

>> No.7010817

>>7010815
>Caring about characters in Gen Urobuchi work
Why would anyone do that? I'm watching this just so I could laugh at suffering children.

>> No.7010850

>>7010796
Please be joking. I'd watch it for fights alone.

QUALITY doesn't mean "I don't like the art style", you know.

>> No.7010857

>>7010850
What? The only good fight was in episode 5. Everything else sucked massively, christ, in ep 3 I couldn't even understand how Homura fought at all, she was just jumping around and witch just randomly exploded.

>> No.7010858

>>7010850
He's just mad at the quality of redhead vs sayaka.
Which was really poor.

>> No.7010868

>>7010857
I don't think you were even supposed to understand by then. It's the first time she uses her timestop/teleport/whatever.

>> No.7010870
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>Gen Urobuchi a genius
1) Already knew Homura come from the future in the first ep
2) Already knew QB is fucking evil by the second episode
3) Killed off the Mami arguably the best character in the show
4) Turned the show into Mahou Shoujo Sayaka for the last 3 or 4 episodes

So no. It is good but you faggots treat it like it is the best thing since slice bread.
Also fuck off back to >>>/a/ all of you.

>> No.7010875

>>7010857
that comes with the ability to stop time when trying to not give away what her ability is

>> No.7010884

>>7010870
1) She doesn't come from the future.
2) It was obvious QB was evil in episode 1
3)Kyouko is the best in the show. Mami was cute, but stupid. She died stupidly, as expected from a shitty side character.
4) I hate sayaka too

There is like 1 post per minute, so don't leave /jp/. The board can handle this thread, so quit whining.

>> No.7010885

>>7010868
>>7010875
Still doesn't change the fact that it looked bad. And every other fight, except for >>7010858, was just one special move with guns/swords.
That's not a proper fight, I wouldn't watch a b-movie
where all fights end after one punch.

>> No.7010896

>>7010884
She does come from the future; "timeline" is a mistranslation, QB just says she comes from a different time.

>> No.7010903

>>7010884
>>7010884
Are you insinuating that Madoka didnt save Homura in the original future timeline? Pretty obvious they are like NanohaFate originally until the huge tree wiped everyone off in ep1.

You mean you can post offtopic shit as long as the board is slow?

>> No.7010908

>>7010885
Because b movies have decent fight right.

The point that the fights are a pleasure on their own still stands.
Of course you wouldnt watch the show if you have an antipathy to the rest of it though. But that's not his point.

>> No.7010915

>>7010885
If one punch is gun-kata with flintlock rifles and a skillfull mix of strip-tease and heavy artillery then fuck yeah I'll watch it.

>> No.7010913

>>7010896
QB doesn't exactly know, so just because he says it, doesn't make it a matter of fact. There was some kind of history repeat/world rewrite and I think it's been multiply times too. Since Homura says something like "you always* sacrifice yourself" like she's done it multiply times. So, from the "future" isn't accurate is Madoka has been rewriting the world repeatly.

>> No.7010922

>>7010903
I already answered the first part, but as for the second. Yes, I do. If the board is very slow, I always think: What spam, shit-topic or off-topic thread will I make. Otherwise I look for off-topic threads and other such to bump.

>> No.7010923

>>7010908
>Because b movies have decent fight right.
Yes, that's the reason people watch them, I suggest you try too, because now you talk shit out of ignorance.
>The point that the fights are a pleasure on their own still stands.
Ugh, I like the song, I guess, didn't notice anything more about them. Moreover, there's not that many fights anyway, so watching the show for them alone really strikes me as weird.

>> No.7010943

>>7010922
>look for off-topic threads
>>>/a/
Save yourself the trouble and just go there.

>> No.7010944

>>7010923
>Yes, that's the reason people watch them, I suggest you try too, because now you talk shit out of ignorance.
okay perhaps all the movies with mindless fighting I ever saw were c movies or something. I'm really no competence on the matter.

>there's not that many fights anyway, so watching the show for them alone really strikes me as weird.
I see this differently. Perhaps I'm just too jaded so far as to appreciate even the smallest bit that still entertains me. (Though madoka has many other points that greatly interest me, making it one of the best shows of recent seasons to me)

>> No.7010951

>>7010896
Oh, great, I was afraid this was a spoiler, thanks for confirmation.

I really need to watch that episode finally. On the other hand, why did someone who apparently doesn't even like the show see it faster than me? I feel bad.

>> No.7010969

>>7010913
Actually to me it sounded like homura says it like she is a good friend to madoka who has experienced hardship with her.

>> No.7010970

>>7010951
Not the same person and I don't hate Madoka, I'm just angry that it's ruined by incompetent studio.

>> No.7010979

>>7010951
Reported this for off topic /a/ shit doesnt mean I hate it.

>> No.7011002

>>7010970
>>7010979
Ah, right. I skimmed through the thread, failed to see the "it is good" part and judged the post by its tone. My fault.

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