Touhou 13: Phantasmagoria of Iridescent Seas

[Anonymous No.]

Reaction?

[Anonymous No.]

Depends on who gets in.

[Yutanpo !1DeKKAi00Y No.]

male touhous everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

"inb4 people with no friends bawing"

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937210
The day when Touhou becomes something else than a world of raging lesbians shooting of each other's clothes and drinking until morning afterwars, is the day Touhou dies.

[Anonymous No.]

Source or eat shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937213
You know it'll come with online play.

[Anonymous No.]

There is no sea in Gensokyo

[Anonymous No.]

lies, thats 8

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937210
Danmaku is considered a very feminine form of battle. I'd love male twowho's myself, but they'd likely be the kind of guy who'd like to be the little girl.

What I want is a mathematician/programmer touhou, with compounding spellcards and parenthesis shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937244
There's the lake.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937260
It's not that Danmaku is a feminine form of battle. It's that only youkai and girls can comprehend the beauty in it.
Also, only females develop mystic abilities since they are more mysterious or something he said. In Gensokyo, females have all the high ranked positions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937291
Isn't the Forest of Magic supposed to be between the Hakurei shrine and the human village?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937291
Where's the Temple of Myouren?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937300
The map is wrong in several places. It's fan made anyway.

[SK No.]

>>6937291

What...?

[Anonymous No.]

Reaction?

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES please!

Unless it involves Hatate/Aya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937205
>Iridescent Seas
I don't get it

[Anonymous No.]

...Oh. Now I get this thread. The games whose names start with "Phantasmagoria" are the two player touhoes.

Personally I'm not so crazy about that idea since the previous one was pretty bad. I'd rather Zun attempted to recreate the awesomeness of Imperishable Night again (it's kind of sad that no game has managed to meet IN's level). But whatever, I can deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937370
>IN
>Good

IN was shit, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937370
IN has been my favorite as well. Inb4 it gets trolled to hell and back like in every thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937370
Cool opinions but PoFV was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937198
Look! This is Kaguya!
Cute, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937370
I hate games with special mechanics.
IN, PCB, UFO and the god awful bomb system after MoF
EoSD is still the best

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937396

You pretty much hate everything but EoSD then, right?

[Anonymous No.]

UFO > EoSD > SA > MoF > PCB > IN

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937260
>What I want is a mathematician/programmer touhou

Ran.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6937420

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937433

Why would anyone play the PC-98 games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937435
Because they're worth playing.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6937432
Sanae

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937437

Opinions

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937435
Are you serious? Why not?

[Anonymous No.]

I played them too you know!
They are very entertaining!
I even beat every extra stage boss from those games

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937435
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B9umDBE-78

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937433

I hope ZUN never brings back some of the terrible backgrounds from the PC-98 games. The biggest example being the super plaid stage in LLS. I've said it multiple times, but I feel as if it needs to be said again.

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>>6937420
No, MoF and SA are fine as long as i don't bomb.

Which doesn't really get me far...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937451
A remake of one of the pc-98 games would be nice though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937451
Is that the one with blue background in a stage full of blue bullets? Or was that the second stage of MS?

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6937451
But LLS has the stars-and-picnic-blankets background, greatest background of all time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937461

This is the stage I'm talking about. After playing through it for three minutes all I could think of was wanting to tear my eyes out from eye strain. I couldn't see anything but plaid for a while. Apparently there's also a stage on MS where bullets blend with the background, I believe it was stage 5, but I didn't get that far.

[Anonymous No.]

I am getting tired of waiting for TH 13 and that the western fandom has been on zombie mode doesnt help the matters.

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>>6937484

>western fandom

Why would you care about this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937489

It's almost like we're fans in the west or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937456
Please explain to me why being at 2 or 3 power is suddenly a death sentence, and why you can't pick up those millions of P items falling toward you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937489
>Glorious Nihongo so kawaii desu ne ^-^
Go die in a fire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937493

Which touhou would you fuck?

>>6937500

They actually produce things. Imagine that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937509
Only if they're a giraffe.

[Vector !NEy29ODpvs No.]

Hellsinker is better than Touhou

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937523

Yeah but that's not a hard thing to do.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6937523
More complicated and incredibly confusing = better?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937528

>incredibly confusing

Maybe you're just dumb.

[Vector !NEy29ODpvs No.]

>>6937528
It uses the same amount of buttons as Touhou, the buttons just do more stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937480

Get a better monitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937528
It would not be so confusing if someone made an english patch for that game.. but yeah i agree that it is at it's current state very confusing

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937484
>western fandom
>implying such a thing exists

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937573
Back to /v/ with your implications.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937573
Of course it does.

[Vector !NEy29ODpvs No.]

>>6937558
There isn't really much to translate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937588
Yeah..
also the game had shitty character/boss designs..

[Vector !NEy29ODpvs No.]

>>6937625
Nigga what.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6937629
The characters are pretty ugly. Bosses are good, though.
AN AWESOME PRAYER IS CONFLICT WITH US. KEEP YOUR DIGNITY.

Anyways, I'm probably going to sit down and give HELLSINKER a real chance this weekend, use that system11 guide to figure out what all those fingerless glove meters mean and whatnot. But still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937198
<Citation needed>

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6937292
Rubbish.

Myouren Hijiri could throw pots full of storehouses with his sorcery and Byakuren got her baseline powers from him, Hell he was almost the Final Boss of UFO.

Youki Konpaku is also just a older, wiser and tougher version of Youmu, she got her swords from him.

Males are just as capable of not more so.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6938072
*if not more so

[Yukito-san !zc0H41Z7mU No.]

Wasn't UFO announced sometime during February of 2009 along with a demo? We'll be seeing th13 soon.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938072
While neither Myouren or Youki ever seem to have fired danmaku, we do know of at least one male that can into danmaku, youkai or not.

...'course, he also tries to punch you, but hey. If you had such magnificent giant pink fists, wouldn't you try to punch people too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938072
Err, no. The only things that's stated in canon is that he had buddhist powers, whatever that may be. The thing Byakuren uses to boost her physical strenght however is black magic she learned after being scared of his death.
There is no canon info on Youki's mystical abilities, but he is probably still superior in swordmanship to his successor.

That only females develop strong mystical abilities is canon however. Zun said it in an interview after being asked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938160
I think he said that in the UFO interview.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938138
What are you talking about, fists are perfectly valid spellcards.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6938160
>In an interview with ZUN, he states that Myouren was originally meant to be the final boss of UFO, but he decided against it because "It would be weird to have an old man as the last boss in Touhou".

>Byakuren's sibling Myouren was a famous monk. Myouren's days were spent easily tossing around enormous pots that contained great storehouses and curing sick people's illnesses in remote places.

Checkmate~

These are both from ZUN interviews.

And Youki being the previous gardener for Yuyuko and since Myouren could have been a boss and was even planned.

Males are just as capable.

[Yukito-san !zc0H41Z7mU No.]

>>6938160

>That only females develop strong mystical abilities is canon however. Zun said it in an interview after being asked.

That would be odd considering how a male was almost the end boss of UFO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938130
He normally makes the blog post a couple weeks before Reitaisai. So around the beginning of March, expect something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938173

Stone Fist: Gain natural 1d6 slam attack, AND a +6 to your strength score for purposes of attacks. 1st level spell. Quite handy.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938201
For purposes of all attacks? Dayum. How long does that last?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938194

If they were just as capable we would see few of them, or at least hear about few of them in tons of canon material we got.

There are few "wise men" mentioned in Touhou. That's all. None of them was ever even suggested to be strong.

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>>6938194
>>6938195
ZUN says that he couldn't possibly make a male a Touhou boss. People interpret this as saying he planned to make a male a Touhou boss.

Am I the only one who sees the problem here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938194
That males have no mystical prowess is probably part of the reason why Hijiri was scrapped in the end.

It's blank canon.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6938217
Listen, he said HE COULD TOSS POTS OF STOREHOUSES.

That's canon, period, you lose, get out.

And Yuyuko's gardener IS a high position that Youki held.
>>6938216
He planned to, that's the point.

Original intent is still intent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938194

He said he considered Myouren as the final boss, but scrapped the idea.

That's a bit different than "Myouren was originally meant to be the final boss".

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938216
But, there is a male Touhou boss. Same game, even.

Please note the modifier LAST boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938229
>Listen, he said HE COULD TOSS POTS OF STOREHOUSES.

Awesome. I actually had to chuckle a bit. Thanks.
English isn't you first language, is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938237
No, he said he had him planned to be the final boss "until the last moment" (so says the TL, whatever that means).

[Anonymous No.]

>>6937198

Hmmm, maybe.

I bet on a snow themed game, with Yeti , Yuki Onna, and shit like that

[Anonymous No.]

what about Shingyouku from Hrtp?
I mean he was capaple of danmaku even though he was partly a woman and a ying yang orb.

[Anonymous No.]

Where's this "males can't develop strong mystical abilities" thing from? Which interview, find it.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6938215
>Not strong
>Half-Ghost Samurai-Gardener for the Queen of the Netherworld
>Sorceror Monk tossing storehouses and roaming the world healing and teaching Byakuren magic
>Fucking Cloudman punching you with huge fists.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938229
>HE COULD TOSS POTS OF STOREHOUSES

Considering all the crazy shit in touhou that's pretty low tier if you ask me.

Touhouverse is likely similar no Nanohaverse when it comes to males. There are few strong ones, but they got their power only thanks to years of hellish training and are still outnumbered by strong girls 100 to 1.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6938246
>Byakuren's sibling Myouren was a famous monk. Myouren's days were spent easily tossing around enormous pots that contained great storehouses and curing sick people's illnesses in remote places.
>　白蓮の弟、命蓮は伝説の僧侶であった。
　　軽々と鉢を飛ばしたかと思うと、その鉢でごうつくばりな長者の倉を
　　持っていったり、離れた場所にいる人間の病気を治したりしていた。

I trust reading isn't your strong point?

This is hard canon, Byakuren's backstory.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll admit that I actually checked ZUN's blog after reading this.
I'm sad now.

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone's a girl because girls are cute and soft. There doesn't need to be a concrete retconned reason for it. It doesn't even need to be acknowledged in the canon, and as far as I know it hasn't been.

[Anonymous No.]

Touhou's "story" is silly. It just needs to be a good game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938263
>HE COULD TOSS POTS OF STOREHOUSES

Ahaha, no.
>長者の倉
He could toss around storehouse pots. This means he was physically a strong human. Nothing special.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938265
wasn't the storehouse in a bowl some famous buddhist saint anecdote or something?

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6938265
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Byakuren_Hijiri

Hell, read the interview yourself.

>>6938263
Doesn't change the fact they CAN get it.

[Anonymous No.]

This "males suck at magic" thing is rather common in Asia. Or whole world actually.

In pretty much all cultures it was women who were believed to be naturally talented in magic and mystical stuff. While males were "scientific sorcerers" like alchemists.

[Anonymous No.]

Intented final stage boss is weak?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938278

Read this. >>6938274

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938286

[Mr Krons !IR7ogMhC0s No.]

Touhou 13: Phantasmagoria, a Puzzle of Flesh.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6938290
I don't care.

He still has Buddist Magic and Byakuren's black magic seems to only include her youth and was intended as a final boss.

Unzan is still male and a boss, Youki Konpaku is still Youmu's mentor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938286
I know, right? That's solid evidence but oh here's some shit I made up, ZUN said it somewhere, don't ask.

[Anonymous No.]

ok, wait

so, you must solve a rubik cube while avoiding danmaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938297
No, it was stated that she boosts herself with black magic.

Well, I don't care anymore. You are getting desperate now, it's pathetic.
That's also a reason why we have fanon, so people who don't like the canon, like you, can be at ease.

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>>6938263

I kind of feel bad for males in Nanoha. Guys like Zest wasted decades polishing their skills and slowly climbing to the top, while a random talented 10y old girl can get same level of power in a year or two.

I guess males in Touhou feel the same. Generic gensokyan peasants are probably looking at the girls flying freely in the skies with teary eyes and clenched fists.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't even know what the dispute right now is about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938294

FUND IT

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6938330
You haven't given a single interview, a single backed up counterpoint of what her black magic is.

You haven't countered Youki being Youmu's mentor and former Gardener and number 2 to Yuyuko.

You haven't even tried anything againts Unzan, you're the pathetic one.

If anyone should go into fanon to preserve their little fantasy little girl land, it should be you.

Please catch the next bullet to Genskoyo.

[Anonymous No.]

There's going to be a dragon shota boss someday. I just know it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938359

So we have 2 significant males in Touhou. One of them being a cloud and just a helper of the boss.

How many significant girls do we have exactly? 100? 200?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938373

108.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938373
Other way around, as it were. Ichirin basically exists to be Unzan's hitbox. She's a hindrance more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938359
That's because you are trying to argue against canon here.

If you would properly word out your point why XXX is a indication that the word of god Zun is not true, then I will word out my answer properly, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938392

Unzan with his fists alone would be the easiest boss ever.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938411
Not... really? I mean, he'd be undamageable, and it's made pretty clear that his fists release danmaku of their own as they pass/pound. Most of the stuff flying around during her spellcards are from Unzan.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like being a man in Gensokyo sucks many times more than being a girl in some muslim shithole in the middle of the desert.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6938394
You are stating that males have no mystical power and that ZUN said so.

You pulled it out of your ass, the burden proof lies on the claimant, either get the proof, or get lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938392
He is a materialization of her nyuudou, not the other way around.
Ingame Ichirin's sprite is only his hitbox since the nyuudou is her power, basically, her danmaku itself.

[Anonymous No.]

There has never been a canon explanation for why there are so many chicks running around in Touhou games.

And let's keep in mind that Youki (male) supposedly made Youmu look completely pathetic in comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938425
I would care to spend more time on that if I were discussing with someone who knows his canon, but you don't. It's not even something obscure, every Touhou fan knows it.
You will have to find it yourself, it's either in the MoF or UFO interview.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938444
From what I remember, the reason why there are so many little girls flying around is because ZUN simple likes it that way. He said there were as many males as there are females in Gensyoko, but they were not important in his stories aside from some origin development.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938451
Anyone with half a brain would notice you're avoiding it, cough up the evidence or stop trolling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938451
>Look for it yourself.
That's admitting defeat, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938451
I've read my fair share of canon materials but I don't recall where this is stated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938444
There's no canon to get. Females shooting danmaku is more appealing than men doing it, that's really it. Picture related, men doing danmaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938465
>>6938471
>>6938477

Samefag detected.
At least wait a few minutes so it looks like it's a different anon, my little secondary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938460

He said there are just as many human males as females in the human village.

The fact that all the males are insignificant is quite a big sing that they are far weaker than girls in general.

And looking at the canon manga and other materials we do see males, but except for Kourin they are just generic peasants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938497
Check again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938497
You can't be this dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938501
If Kourin was any less than beta as fuck, the townspeople who already dont feel easy about him would prolly string him up or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938444
>And let's keep in mind that Youki (male) supposedly made Youmu look completely pathetic in comparison

When was that?

All we know about Youki is from his super short initial description.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938497

If this is what being a primary is about, I'd rather be a secondary. You guys are getting all bent out of shape over something so incredibly silly. It's not even the games you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938501
>The fact that all the males are insignificant is quite a big sing that they are far weaker than girls in general.

Nope. It's a sign that ZUN wants to make games about girls. There is no canon statement whatsoever about the power levels of men, except for what we can see by looking at the only two named ones. Kourin apparently has no combat powers. But Youki is supposed to have taught Youmu everything she knows. These are the two canon males, and taken together they average... average.

>>6938501
>And looking at the canon manga and other materials we do see males, but except for Kourin they are just generic peasants.

And Youki. Who would easily be a stage 6 boss, if not Ex boss.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938518
Indeed, there's almost zero facts known about Youki. Hell, we don't even know for sure he's a half-ghost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938519

Being "primary" is about caring only about the games, and only for their gameplay, and never spending one thought for the story or music or lore or anything. >>6938497 is definitely not a primary fan.

[Anonymous No.]

>Youmu look completely pathetic in comparison

That doesn't strike me as being particularly difficult. She's, like, fifteen in human years.

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN made a gate guardian weaker than the average citizens of the world connected to the gate she's supposed to protect, you guys are going nowhere if you're going to follow canon for proof

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938526
>Youki is supposed to have taught Youmu everything she knows.
That's not strictly true, she's had a while to continue her training after Youki left. It doesn't sound like he had very much time to directly teach her much.

>And Youki. Who would easily be a stage 6 boss, if not Ex boss.
Strictly conjecture, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938536
Nope. How can you even come to such a wrong conclusion?

[Anonymous No.]

>Being "primary" is about caring only about the games, and only for their gameplay, and never spending one thought for the story or music or lore or anything.

That's a little unfair. To be a primary fan means to care first for Touhou as a game series, and not as a source of fanart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938526

All we know about Youki is that he was a swordmaster and a gardener.

Being a swordmaster doesn't necessarily mean he was some super awesome magical sword master. Or that he could use magic/danmaku.

All it says is that he could use a sword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938539
If you want to go by numbers, fairies and ghosts dominate the mean.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938538
>she's like fifteen in human years
Highly unlikely.
>However, she slowly but surely grows older as time passes
The only upper bound we know of is she's no older than 60. And, if there's any one single fact about Touhou, it's that apparent age does not determine skill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938519
Calling oneself a "primary" has long been exclusively about superiority complex; ever since the last actual primary left /jp/ for good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938536
A primary is a superior person who has cleared every game on Lunatic and gotten every ending, read all the canon material and heard all the interviews, including the untranslated stuff.

A secondary is a miserable little pile of a man who has has never seen a stage four boss in his life, is deluded enough to think that fanworks are canon, and does nothing besides spout memes and insult the games all day.

You should know this by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938546

I wouldn't be inclined to think Youmu learned 200 Yojana in One Slash by practicing, and such a feat is unlikely done without using magic of some sort

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938555
She could've learned it from other sources, y'know. It's unlikely, but possible given what we know.

[Anonymous No.]

"The former gardener of about 300 years, Konpaku Youki, suddenly retired into enlightened hermitude one day, leaving a very young Youmu as his successor. As Youmu's sword technique is still unrefined, she tirelessly undergoes daily training to perfect it. The whereabouts of the man who should be the current gardener are unknown, even to Youmu. She considers it as just another one of his lessons."

This is all we know about Youki.

Nothing about his power or skill level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938562
Of course but by that its just as likely that Youki taught her that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938553
>>6938544
Primaries are more of having the REQUISITE of ''knowing'' the core stuff (games, endings, interviews, books, etc.), it doesn't necesarily have to be one who seals his eyes when faced to fanart or music arranges, but more one who at least knows what things are canon and doesn't spout memes here there or has the wrong idea about something, unless it's something not quite specified, hence debates based on opinons.

i.e: not a fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938568

Sounds like what >>6938553 said.

Except he wasn't being serious and you were, apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

This discussion is still ongoing, huh.

I'm pretty sure that the interview where Zun said that only females develop strong mystic abilities is not in the UFO one.
I think it's in that one where he is first asked by the interviewer fag if he can marry Marisa. I'm not sure it was translated though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938572
Not quite, others were implying that primaries only focused on canon works and never poked at fanart or music arranges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938597

The point is, you look pretty stupid right now for taking this primary/secondary shit so seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938607
cussing, insulting

obviously you're making yourself look like the better person here.

[Anonymous No.]

I wouldn`t bother having a useful male Touhou
Unless he was like those VNs beta male protagonists

[Anonymous No.]

Primaries are those who play the games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938613

Calling you stupid is not an insult, it's a description. "Childish" is another word that comes to mind, as is "butthurt". "Fuck off" is two words but fits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938634
Its an insult, no two ways about it. especially when you call a person stupid, as stupid is a describer for actions, not people

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938643

>stupid is a describer for actions, not people

I'm not sure if I should take this seriously or not.

[Anonymous No.]

Definition of primaryfag.
>>6938568
>''knowing'' the core stuff (games, endings, interviews, books, etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938643
You know he's right, so instead you attack his vocabulary. Real smooth, anon, real smooth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938649
>you know he's right

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938649

He's in no position to do that as he clearly has no idea what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938643
>a describer for actions
They're called adverbs you moron. Stupid is an adjective. Stupidly is an adverb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938652

>green text
>reaction image

Why do you even bother?
Why do you even bother?

[Anonymous No.]

And I thought this thread couldn't get any worse.
It's worse.

[Voile's other Hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

I came in here when I saw a few posts earlier that looked like a nice decent debate about male presence in touhou/gensokyo

but it seems to have degraded into an arguement about primaries and secondaries, and even further to just plain mud-slinging. Why /jp/...why

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938664

It was terrible from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938643
>stupid is a describer for actions, not people

Do you have some kind of a derangement that compels you to make shit up? Collins English dictionary:

stupid ('stju:pɪd) adj
1. lacking in common sense, perception, or normal intelligence
2. (usually postpositive) stunned, dazed, or stupefied: stupid from lack of sleep
3. having dull mental responses; slow-witted
4. trivial, silly, or frivolous

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938666

>decent debate
>Touhou canon

You may choose one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938666

Because some motherfuckers, even on an anonymous board, just cannot admit they are wrong. Not even if they cannot provide a single thing to back up their statements. They just have to try to bullshit their way out to protect their fragile egos from perceived humiliation, even when they're nameless, faceless strangers. It's just how some people are.

[Anonymous No.]

The shit storm started because some fag was arguing to manfried about something but wouldn't give source. Blame his dumb ass for being wrong and being a kid about it.

[Voile's other Hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

>>6938674
Maybe I don't get on enough but the better discussions I've seen come from interpretation of Canon materials.

[proREMIRIAt Elite Force Commander !rSDMROXTB. No.]

>Reaction?
>Touhou 13: Phantasmagoria of Iridescent Seas

what a shitty name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938682

Yeah, shitstorms are better than "Which touhou would you fuck?" but that's not saying anything.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

I find it both amusing and depressing that this is one of the few threads that doesn't have QC-kun's mark of honor on it.

So what happened to the actual talking about misguided canon interpretations, instead of full-on shitposting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938688

>kun

Why do you do this?

[Anonymous No.]

This thread had promise, but leave it to one anonymous to ruin everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938680
Hello Manfred. Go watch the MoF interview.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938687
You've never seen an actual discussion before, eh? Funny, because it's going on all the time. Maybe those threads simply turns to shitstorm every time you decide to participate?

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938689

[Anonymous No.]

Look, shit posts and trolls aside, can we please get back on topic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938695

>Maybe those threads simply turns to shitstorm every time you decide to participate?

Who wins here?

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>6938699
What was the original topic anyways?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938707
Males in Gensokyo and Youki's power level.

[Anonymous No.]

A proper would never work on /jp/.
You need a common ground when discussing canon. The participants need to at least know the material like endings, books and some basic Japanese skills to follow the interviews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938692
Not Manfred, buddy.

And there's no interview, link it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938717
New to /jp/, eh? Don't project your own deficiencies on others.

[Anonymous No.]

The reason no males appear in the Touhou games is because every game of the franchise is related to "incidents"
And as you all know unlike women, we man are actually educated and refined and would never cause such trouble in Gensokyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938798
"we"?
We are all little girls around here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938479
>>6938460
So is this true or is their a reason behind it?

[Anonymous No.]

Wonder if ZUN backed off on Myouren more for personal distaste or because he knew he'd be literally murdered for putting a man as a final boss.

[Anonymous No.]

Right, um, anyways.

We know Youmu is a descendant of Youki. We know she's still a child. We know Youki held the same duties as Youmu, and held them for three centuries. Is it really plausible to suggest his swordsmanship skills WEREN'T far and away beyond that of a teenage girl?

I know Youmu is likely a couple of decades old, but she certainly seems to behave like a teenager. In Gensokyo, at least, experience doesn't always mean maturity, something we know from Remilia and Cirno.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938850
I see no reason to think otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938829
two kind of fans:
*lesbian women drawing little touhous being raped
*ronery men buying all the touhou stuff in hopes of becoming the little girl

I don't know why ZUN decided to add that blue programmer guy anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938870
I'm sorry, the negatives are piling up and it's difficult for me to keep track of them. Please state your position plainly.

[Anonymous No.]

>in the manga males are portrayed as peasants
What about the moon rabbit males? They were guards right?

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't ZUN claim all Touhou-related works as his own and therefore canon a month or two ago, compounding the pointlessness of this argument? Go back to wishing you were little girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938896
That's absurd. ZUN is a drunkard, but that doesn't even come close to making sense.

I mean, for one thing, the guro doujins are pretty hard to make canon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938879
Youki > Youmu

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938896
Yes! That is a thing that definitely happened, and most certainly did not never happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938898
Actually, they're pretty easy to make canon. Remember that youkai can regenerate almost any physical damage, and fairies (/Kaguya/Mokou) simply respawn. 99% of Touhou cast can participate in a guro doujin and be up and running the day after.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938896
Just because something is owned by ZUN doesn't mean it's canon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938930
All in all, nothing is canon anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938930
Youmu's sword can't split hairs as thinly as you do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938929
Is that so?

[Anonymous No.]

204 posts and no source or link.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938929
Oh, and how about the emotional trauma?

>>6938938
Don't you dare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6938953
I'm fairly sure it's supposed to be a hypothetical in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN said in an interview that Touhous frequently have sex with men