/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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I posted this on mbread, but enjoy anyway. I bought the KnK BDs, this english booklet came with the western release.

'scuse the dirty scanner.

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Go on...
And who did the translation for this?

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Thanks baby.

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>>6935666
Check rightstuf, they were the only English retailer that sold this version afaik.

http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/w4lAi8NUXv0=cyTQKM/browse/item/90689/4/0/0

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That's all for now, so yeah. There's more, but it's artists' comments on some of the art - this is what I really wanted to show you all.

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Thanks OP, good read.

Did they mention every voice actor except Nakata Jouji? Or did I skim over his name somewhere?

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Does anybody know whether or not they're going to release the KnK box in europe? I'd rather not import it because its going to be expensive as shit.

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Upload 1080p. It's not out yet on the internet. My fetcher is waiting

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>>6935736
I can't, sorry. I can't rip BDs.

Besides, it's not that huge of a deal.

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>>6935752
Maybe someone else will ;_;
Still waiting

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I'll be getting this in a few days myself. No, I'm not gonna rip it after paying ~$400 for it.

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Every fansubber/encoder cancelled their purchase when they saw how terrible the BDs looked.

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>>6935776
They actually don't look that bad, OP here. The only problem is that they used that terrible Q-tec style vectoring on the CHARACTERS, not the backgrounds, and thus the lineart looks a little weird

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>>6935773
Because you won't be unboxing your precious BluRay set or what the fuck am I reading

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>>6935799
No, because I'm going to be too busy watching it. Git yer own.

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>>6935808
Nope

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They should have included the soundtrack CDs like was with the limited versions of the Japanese DVDs. Also lol at the $50 per disc Japanese pricing. Guess they don't expect to move that many of these in English speaking countries, subtitles or not..

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>>6935829
I bet they can count their sales on two hands

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>>6935849
Seeing as it is "no longer available for purchase" already that's probably an accurate count as to just how many they made. Usually I want the hell out of limited things like that but I think my brain is shocked by the price tag. Seriously, Blu-Rays over here are more of a $20 thing, or maybe $100 for a big box set. Not $400.

Okay, I'll admit I still want the book because I'm an animator. Storyboards, layouts, shit like that is what I like. It looks decently sized so maybe $30 or thereabouts for "American" pricing.

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>>6935860
Funny thing, I'm an animator too. OP here.

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>>6935865
How big is that book pagewise? The one they have laying open in the product picture on the rightstuf page.

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>>6935860
Do you actually work for a real company or do you just make shitty flash animations on newgrounds?

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>>6935873
Small 3D company at the moment. Gearing up for GDC in a few weeks to try to get into a bigger one.

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>>6935867
It's not as much about keyframes and inbetweens and all that stuff as you'd think. It's more about art, generally. I'll take pictures.

1/3

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2/3

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>>6935873
OP here, I'm majoring in animation at my university under a few professional animators. Been at it for about a year, learning is fun, but it's hard as fuck sometimes!

Anyway, yeah. This gives you a good idea of the book.

That translated interview that I just posted is also inside this, untranslated.

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>>6935890
2D or 3D? God, I suck at 2D. Can't draw sequentially to save my life.

Thanks for the photos. Makes me want the book less but that just means I have an excuse to buy all the storyboard books...

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>>6935899
2D primarily, but I'm also learning 3d animation.

2D isn't hard, actually. It's more about the sheer amount of tedium, for me. If you're not SUPER PASSIONATE about what you're animating it becomes the most boring thing in the world to animate in 2D.

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>>6935903
My draftsmanship is horrible. If you were to have me draw six frames whatever I was drawing would change in size and line weight six times and not on purpose. 3D does all the tweening for me but instead I have to deal with getting the rig to do what I want.

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>>6935907
OP again, the main thing I'm always told, as an animator, is that to be a truly good 3D animator you must have training in the classic 2D techniques. One can look at all the people in 3D animation classes these days, but they're not being taught the most basic skills required to be a proper animator - squash and stretch, even. Arcs of motion, all that kind of stuff - even the concept of less frames and more frames to indicate slowing down and speeding up, and extreme distortion not normally visible by the human eye but 'perceived' and thus the audience is tricked by an illusion of animation. Sometimes you even see this in anime when some guy stops it and declares a frame is QUALITY - in fact, you're not even supposed to realize that frame's there, it's only for the 'effect' of movement.

Et cetera, et cetera.

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>>6935917
You'll just have to trust me in that my lines in 2D were horrible.

We had the 12 principles hammered into us during school. Also a lot of stuff like the Animator's Survival Kit and other books based in 2D.

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>>6935931
Well, that's good then. Glad to hear you're not being herded down the wrong path by some upstart animation teacher.

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>>6935933
The teachers themselves at the school are pretty good. Current and ex-industry in every department. The administration is another thing. Somewhere in their minds they thought a sports program was the way to go. Art school with not-so-good sports teams.

Part of me wishes I was still in, part of me is glad I'm out and working. I miss the free workshops that I no longer have time for.

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Just bought 5 of the Kara no Kyoukai storyboard books for about $56. Need to pick up 6 and 7 off of amazon.jp or somewhere else. 7 is a whopping 686 pages.

[Yｏur ｆavorite Aｎonymous thaｔ liｖes iｎ Ｂangkok No.]

>>6935917
>to be a truly good 3D animator you must have training in the classic 2D techniques

not true imo
that would be like saying you should learn visual basic before learning c

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>nasuverse is in fact based on something like WoD which is why the alignment system is there

I FUCKING KNEW IT

Gotcha /tg/, Type-Moon is now related.

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Translation of the novel, where?

Fuck tokyopop, anime subs are illegal too, just fucking translate the novel already.

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>>6936229
But WoD doesn't have alignment system.

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Reassuring to know that TM doesn't release anything exactly becuse they don't want to be too commercial. I've been thinking for a while now that they aren't milking the cow nearly as they could if they only wanted. See 07th Expansion for reference on fail at this.

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>>6936238
That's just my guess - the important thing here is that Nasu is in fact pretty much a fa/tg/uy writefag who got succesfull. WoD came to my mind because of the urban fantasy setting.

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Wow.

Nasu sounds like a pretty damn smart yet humble guy and Takeuchi sounds like a pretty damn amazing bro.

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>>6936239
Nasu doesn't milk his cow enough? Are you that delusional?
Fate has been milked to hell and back and he didn't release anything new in 6 years.
And you see this as something positive?
Wow

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I seriously wonder what nasu did between the release of F/HA and now, he only recently started working on Tsukihime 2 and the aoko VN after all.

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>>6936404
When people come up to essentially wishing to give you free money for licensing, would you deny them?

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>>6936239
>Reassuring to know that TM doesn't release anything exactly becuse they don't want to be too commercial.
Sound like an abused housewife finding an excuse for the behavior of her husband.

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>>6936416
>he only recently started working on Tsukihime 2
sauce?
So far he said it's more a joke and had outlined how it begins and that it ends in a huge proportional clusterfuck involving Merem's beasts

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>>6936416
DDD, followed Kara no Kyoukai, UBW movie, rewrote pretty much the entire Fate/Extra because it was shit (and yeah, one can argue whether it was really worth it), rewrote Mahoyoru (according to his blog, the delay is due to the system being redone, not the script)
I'll agree he took it really easy, but it's not like he sat on his ass for 6 years straight

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>>6936465
How did he rewrite fate/extra?

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>>6936471
He got the script, probably facepalmed about how shitty it was, and decided to rewrite most of it, I think he talked about it on his blog.

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>>6936475
Too bad its PSP only.

Man imagine a F/SN monster hunter style game on the PC.

Hell, imagine a MMO where you can create your own servant.

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>>6935736
http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=191555

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>>6936465
KnK was already written
Anything Fate related was already done or half assed.
Mahoyo's still not out.
Tsukihime 2.0 still not out.

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OP, bumping for the sake of people seeing this.