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6840615 No.6840615 [Reply] [Original]

Don't blame us.
Blame yourself or ZUN.

>> No.6840631
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ZUN, please help us sinful children of Gensokyo.

>> No.6840639

>>6840615

I'm still upset they took that out of the remake. That was the best line in the entire intro.

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Eye got a good feeling!

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>> No.6840672

>>6840639
How much else did they change?
Wondering if I should just stick the original on my PSP instead.

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My knightly sister can't be this martyred!

>> No.6840687

>>6840639
This was the good trade for horrible translation won't appear.

>> No.6840693

>>6840672
The rewrite has a superior translation, I've heard.

>> No.6840702

>>6840687
I really don't think there was anything wrong with the translation of the story itself; all I noticed were the obvious summon name oddities.

>> No.6840706

>>6840643
Is that a sword made of water melon?

>> No.6840707
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6840707

Why is Agrias such a slut?

>> No.6840709

>>6840672

It's been a long time (played it when it first came out, haven't picked it up since) but the dialogue really has a heavy ye-olde-English thing going on. If you're worried about fluff, that and the new cutscenes are probably the biggest changes.

I thought that the new writing style was flavorful and interesting, and that the cutscenes were well-done, but I know some people think the changes are cheesy and obtrusive. Your mileage may vary.

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>>6840706
somebody's never heard of advent cirno

>> No.6840714

>>6840672
-Vastly improved translation. It's not even remotely comparable to the ridiculous babelfish-esque trash that is the PS version's script
-Fixed a lot of bugs, rebalanced a few abilites/skillsets
-A new generic job class, a few new special characters, some additional story events

The only thing they removed, as far as I'm aware at least, were spell incantations (too bad, they would've fit the new translation nicely).

>> No.6840719

>>6840707
How does fan art reflect on the character of the character?

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Loved how the PSP release gave us a whole new flood of Angryass fanart.

Still, I always felt it strange that most of the cast had little to say once they joined your party.

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This thread reminds that I've been wanting to do a SCC, what's an easy job to try?

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Loved how the PSP release gave us a whole new flood of Angryass fanart.

Still, I always felt it strange that most of the cast had little to say once they joined your party.

>> No.6840745

>>6840732
Squire
Be Ramza, Solo the game by screaming.

Seriously though, probably something like Summoner.
Been a while since I did any SCCs, let alone touched Tactics though.

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>>6840719
I understand that fanon =/= canon. But even you gotta admit Agrias has a huge amount of porn and ecchi pics. For such a minor, unmemorable character. There has to be a reason for it.

>> No.6840763

>>6840732
Summoner need relatively little JP (aside from unlocking the class itself, of course) to become absurdly powerful. Shiva and Ramuh utterly dominate everything until the end of chapter 3 (and possibly beyond), and by then, you likely have access to even more broken shit.

>> No.6840769

>>6840732

Chemist is probably the easiest. I've played Geomancer and Samurai up to Velius but both of those games stopped there because I didn't want to grind to get extra points of PA/MA and speed.

>> No.6840770

>>6840746

I think it's more about the lack of other options for fanlust to fixate on. I kinda had a thing for Meliadoul back in the day, but between the hood and FFT's noselessness epidemic, her portrait looks really... featureless. It's a little weird.

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>>6840712
I prefer advent Suika

>> No.6840775

I still don't get that line. Delita kidnapped their princess, why shouldn't he be the one to blame?

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Going through the アグリアス tag in pixiv gives me such a magnificent boner.

>> No.6840783

>>6840746

Now she does, way back when FFT was released there was only ONE picture of her at the CGshrines getting fucked by Ramza with a broken dick.and just terribly drawn overall.

Still, we all loved her because she was there from the start of the game and carried us until we got TGCid.

Like all porn artwork of my favorite characters, I'm mixed in reaction. Glad she's getting the attention and the pictures are nice, but sad that they become like what >>6840707 said.

>> No.6840795

That Polestar doujin was so cutesy but goddamn I fapped so hard... except for the whole gay Delita/Ramza part in the middle interrupting the Ovelia/Agrias lesbian sex.

>> No.6840800

>>6840732

Lancers was fun, just jump on everything. The only trouble I had was with Balk the second time around.
Monks should be easy. Ranged attack and healing.

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SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

>> No.6840808

I wish I'd found the patch before I started replaying the game, I don't feel like going on now.

>> No.6840810

Any fanart of Celia and Lede? Those bitches were hot and their job class was incredibly OP to boot.

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I wish my PSP wasn't broken so I could replay this.. I tried a PS emulator but it was laggy and the sound was awfull.

>> No.6840823

>>6840808
I'm going to take a wild guess here, there's a touhou mod?

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>>6840810

Were their models different from the regular dancers? I don't remember.

Still, that whole turning into a muscle bound demon thing is kind of a turn off for them

>> No.6840838

>>6840819
>I tried a PS emulator but it was laggy and the sound was awfull.

Something is wrong with your settings. FFT has been running perfectly on epsxe for years.

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>>6840800
Yeah, I was thinking of trying monk. Sounds better than summoners, not a fan of summoners...

Also, this is my face when browsing /jp/.

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Love this picture for some reason.

>> No.6840844

>>6840823
I meant the retranslation patch.

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>>6840801
Oh wait, everyone in FFT is a slut.
Never mind.

>> No.6840848

>>6840838
It was my first time using an emulator, I probably screwed it up. Having to set the bios and all that kinda confused me.

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>>6840810


Oh god what.

>> No.6840857

>>6840844
There's nothing wrong with FFT's original translation and is a hell of a lot more fun and better overall than any "serious" retranslation of the game.

Besides, the rebalance/"hard" patch is better and the retranslation patch is not up to date with the rebalance one.

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>>6840833
There were slight alterations to the sprite and I believe one of them wears different colors from the usual dancer garb.

I try not to remember that part. Easier to fap to them that way.

By the way, has anyone tried a hack so that you can play the assassin class? It'd be hilarious to stomp through the whole game with them.

>> No.6840864

>>6840857
The new script for War of the Lions is way better than the old one and fits perfectly with the mood of the game. I don't see how anyone likes the old one better, to be honest.

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>>6840857
>There's nothing wrong with FFT's original translation

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I'm a huge faggot but this was the best part of the remake for me.

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Am I the only one who was kinda turned on by Ramza's trappiness?

Keep in mind, this was back in the late 90's, before the term "trap" even existed in its current form.

>> No.6840917

old script was awkward at times, but the new script is so damn silly

I'd rather have simple lines like "Animals have no God!!" over "ye Gods have no eyes for chattel" or whatever bullcrap they pulled out of a random shakespeare novel.

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Oh fuck, she's got a knife!

RUN, DELITA!

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>>6840954

Poor Ovelia, should have made Agrias her king.

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Cute Blondes: The Game

>> No.6840996

>>6840860
If your talking about the PS FFT theres the Final Fantasy Tactics Game Shark Helper by Neo-Kamek which let you pretty much have a field day. You could alter ability effects to job flags and even portraits and sprites.

>>6840879
Him + Holy Lance = 999 x 6 damage (potentially)

>> No.6841020

>>6840732
A team of 4 mimes and 1 calculator.

>> No.6841027

>>6840973
Would have made a better king than that genderswapped Arthur look-a-like, that's for sure.

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>>6840783
>she was there from the start of the game and carried us until we got TGCid

Honeslty, I find her to be better, since I don't find it any fun to play a game-breaking character.

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>>6840954
fuck knives.

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>>6840770
>the lack of other options for fanlust to fixate on

Are you forgetting Altima?
Even if she's not your thing, you could fap to Shiva or the female generic jobs like Dancer or Archer.

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>> No.6841134

>>6841125
Me on the left.

>> No.6841160

>>6841071

Wasn't she, like, Saint Ajora or something? Don't the church's scriptures refer to Ajora as a guy? Also, I seem to remember her sprite making her look, like, twice as big as a normal person. That's getting into some /d/ territory there.

I forgot about the generics, though. Maybe because I tended towards Lancers by endgame, and the full armor means they're close to being female faceless goons.

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This is the way!

>> No.6841272

>>6841160

Yes, where do you think Fate/Stay Night got their ideas from?

They crossed St. Ajora's genderbend with Agrias to make Saber.

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>>6841272
I always thought Princess Crown was the inspiration for Saber.

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>>6840615
I actually have the picture saved.

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SURPRISE BUTTSECKS

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>>6840846
What a slut.

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>>6841782
SLUT

>> No.6841829

So the Ivalice in FFT has nothing to do with the Ivalice in FF12 and FFTA and FFTA2?

I was always confused about that.

>> No.6841834

>>6841829
FFT happened like 200-300 years before FFXII iirc

>> No.6842001

>>6841834
Shouldn't it be after since Mustadio is a descendant of Balthier?

Also remember those times when you grinded too high and ran into insanely powerful Red Chocobos? Good times.

>> No.6842029

>>6841834
I hear FFT is many years after FF12.

>> No.6842047

>>6840846
Why is she so useless?
Fuck, stop attacking and retreat!

>> No.6842081

>>6842047

To be fair, she couldn't have known that the map objective was to prevent her death, or the enemy stats that would have shown her how horribly outclassed she was. In-universe what she did was actually pretty badass.

>> No.6842083

Is the calculator as overpowered as in the original?

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>>6842081
Malak was the shittiest and most hated for me. Remember the battle on the roof of Riovannes Castle?

In fact, the whole of Riovannes was pure rage.

>> No.6842135

>>6842098 Remember the battle on the roof of Riovannes Castle?

That's the fight I was talking about. But yeah, fuck Riovanes. I'm one of the dumb bastards who got stuck on Riovanes Wiegraf my first time through. Elmdor wasn't so bad since the fight's over so quickly, win or lose, and all it takes is luck and a team specced for a quick first strike.

>> No.6842171

>retranslation
meeehhhhhhh
Just a bunch of cheesy fakespear nonsense.
Nobody talked like that back then, mostly you would only see it in shakeskpear plays, and those were just pop culture media and lewd jokes.

The retranslation doesn't get called fakespear for nothing.

>> No.6842185

>>6842135
>I'm one of the dumb bastards who got stuck on Riovanes Wiegraf my first time through.
Welcome to the club

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Ramza's gotta be the male lead that gets the short end of the stick all the fucking time. So much misfortune, and he didn't get any reward for all the shit he's been through.

>> No.6842207

>>6842202
I'd call being able to scream and suddenly turn into a walking death machine a reward.

>> No.6842235

>>6842202
>>6842207

Imouto route true end? I guess?

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>>6840860

Palette swapped dancers.

And yes, having assassins makes the game incredibly easy, I'm looking at you Shadow Stitch.

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>>6842202

I'm completely undecided as to whether I should save that image in my Fate folder or my Final Fantasy Tactics folder.

>> No.6842258

>>6842251
Save it to both.
Alternatively, the all encompassing "stuff" folder.

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>>6842251
It's part of a doujin, just like that picture earlier that has Agrias assuming Rin being a Geomancer.

Guess who took Gilgamesh's place.

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>>6842240
>>6842185
>>6842135
>>6842098
That's what you get for not paying attention to the game warning you, bakas.

I keep a million save files of this game.

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Hello I am a Chocobo, my Choco Cure and Choco Meteor will fuck your shit up.

>> No.6842301

>>6842291
You'll also fill my entire army with more chocobos which you produced via cellular fission.

>> No.6842321

>>6842262
Wiegraf?

>> No.6842349

>>6842301

God, I never recruited a monster except for Boco, and *fuck* monster eggs. Dismissing that ENDLESS NUMBER OF CHOCOBO OFFSPRING was way too sad.

>It looks upset at being told to go home, mayhap because it has no home to go to.
>Its eyes are full of sadness.
>It seems excited. It may have thought you wanted to give it a treat.

>> No.6842364

>>6842262

Link to doujin?

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>>6842349
I unleash Hunting on them, delicious monster made items in shops.

>> No.6842386

>>6842349
>It looks upset at being told to go home, mayhap because it has no home to go to.
>Its eyes are full of sadness.
>It seems excited. It may have thought you wanted to give it a treat.

Why you do this to me?

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>>6842364
Don't have it, don't know the name. Ramza is Gilgamesh though.

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>> No.6842967

Touhou tactics, do want.

>> No.6843213

>>6840709
>the dialogue really has a heavy ye-olde-English thing going on

No it dosn't.

There are no "thees" or "thous" or superfluous words like that. It is indeed more flowery and old fashioned, but not in that silly way.

>> No.6843220

>>6842171
>Nobody talked like that back then, mostly you would only see it in shakeskpear plays, and those were just pop culture media and lewd jokes.

You DO realize that Shakespeare wrote in the common language spoken in his day. So yes, people DID speak that way.

Nobles in a Medieval Europe analog speaking flowery? That is totally believable. Notice that the "common" characters speak more bluntly.

>> No.6843230

>>6840890
I'd throw him one.

>> No.6843249

>>6842386
>>6842349
ffuuu
I always hated dismissing units, even the ones I knew had absolutely no redeeming qualities.
I always had to speed through the dialogue before the guilt set in.

>> No.6843251

"Fornicate thou rear pained sodomite!"

That's what the retranslation is

>> No.6843268

>>6843251
No it isn't.

>> No.6843284

A female black mage with the 'drew out' ability of the samurai.

Shit is so broken.

>> No.6843317

>>6842098
Yeah, that castle was unfair.

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FFT spell quotes. Some of them were nice.
http://pastebin.com/vKqfxdcA

>> No.6843385

>>6842098
I love that part where they slaughter that bitch before you're allowed to rake action

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