/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

So anyway, do you ever fear of being forever alone permavirgin when you're in your 30s/40s etc. ?

My life is going good, man. It's just every now and then I get depressed on how I'm too shy & how I get anxious around chicks. I have quite a few of bro friends but I can't recall the last time I started a conversation with a girl. Must have been years and years ago.

the thought of being a kissless permavirgin in my 30s/40s is unnerving. I'd be totally fine if I still had friends that I could hangout with, but finding friends that aren't gay/total creepers seems almost impossible at that age

[Anonymous No.]

super awesome blog friendseph

[Anonymous No.]

/v/ called. They want their beta threads back.

[Anonymous No.]

you get used to it.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

I'm not even FOREVER ALONE now.

[Anonymous No.]

There was a thread a few days ago about how not worth it sex is when you wake up next to a horribly smelling, makeup-less monster. Plus, I don't want to have to worry about someone else's feelings constantly, especially not some volatile bitch.

Besides, I'm not alone. I have Nazrin!

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6638853
That's why you leave when you've blown your load. Come on guys, use your heads.

[Anonymous No.]

Being a friendless loner virgin is the key to happiness. Just let everything go and you will be liberated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638863
Sex is also pretty dirty from what I hear and I'm a bit of an OCD germophobe/cleanfreak. I don't want to deal with biological smells or, worse, fluids on my body or on my sheets. Shit, how do people go to sleep right after sex with all that fluid on the sheets? It defies logic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638853
Yeah having a waifu is actually 10x worse, really. You just realize how lonely you really are

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638889
You're doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638889
Clearly you picked the wrong girl if she doesn't make you feel satisfied. Maybe it might be better if you just imagine your ideal girl and then talk to her in your mind. You'll never be lonely again.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6638884
Endorphin rush comedown makes you sleepy and the general afterglow means you don't fucking care anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638889

Go back to /v/, loser who does not know love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638912
You underestimate psychological inhibitions.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6638926
Not really.
The question was how OTHER people can do it. Short answer is they don't give a fuck. Long answer is above.
I fully understand why a neat-freak wouldn't like it. Shame about the OCD, as neat freaks have extremely weak immune systems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638863
Why not just masturbate? Your body isn't smart enough to tell the difference between your own hand and some girl's snatch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638787

When you reach that age you'll have a job, just save money for some weeks, months and buy a high class whore, they are clean, very beautiful and treat you like a king.

I never had a girlfriend, i don't have any friends and i don't know how to talk to girls but i buy a whore at least once every 3 months and that keeps me happy for many weeks.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6638937
Because the psychological components to being with a real girl can drive up the arousal to new and interesting heights. Simultaneous orgasm is like MAGIC, man.

But yeah, I just fap, because I'm too lazy to go about chasing pussy. Too much fucking effort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638942
Why pay money for sex when there is free porn on the internet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638893
>>6638902
No, it doesn't work that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638953
>Simultaneous orgasm is like MAGIC, man.

She was probably faking it. It was all in your head, anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638962

Yes it does. Again, go back to /v/ until you know true love. You're not allowed in /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638962
Yes, yes it does.
As much as I hate to admit it, it's called delusion. Maybe it's not intentional delusion for some people, but for most /jp/ers it is. And that keeps us happy. What's so wrong about that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638962
Yes, it does work that way. All those losers are out there being miserable with their relationships that are in shambles, while I'm happy with my imaginary girlfriend who would never even think about leaving me because she is incapable of thinking anything that I don't want her to.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6638969
I'll be the first to admit I'm a shit lover. But when a girl loves you, you don't have to be good to get her off. Besides, when you have a lot of sexual history with someone, you can tell when they're faking.

Not that many of you would know that.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread has been cross posted on several boards.

Stop replying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639003
But talking about 2D girlfriends is fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638975
No, it doesn't.

>>6638984
what's so wrong about going through life while you're making up your own fantasy world?

probably the fact that your fantasy world and real life will collide very frequently, and you will make stupid decisions because of your made up bullshit

>>6638992
If you're a competent human you won't fail a relationship

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638992
>>6638984
>>6638975
/jp/ immediately comes to their waifus defenses when threatened. Such devotion. It warms the cockles of my heart. Never change /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

Oh look, baby minded twit whining about high school trouble

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638992
willingfully following and creating delusions to make you happy is a bad thing to do

it kills your drive to do things in the real world, and badly affects your life and perhaps the lives of people around you

real men grow to be fine without having to rely on people OR delusions to be happy

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>>6638787

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>>6639034
get out of /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

who is it the culprit this time, /b/? /r9k/? /v/? I can't quite tell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639041
Because I'm using logic and reason?

Are you 12?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639015
>probably the fact that your fantasy world and real life will collide very frequently, and you will make stupid decisions because of your made up bullshit
Maybe if you're an idiot. But I'm not and I don't think most /jp/ers are either. We're used to hiding our powerlevels amongst normals.

>If you're a competent human you won't fail a relationship
Relationship failure doesn't require you to be incompetent necessarily, just one member of the relationship. For a relationship to succeed, both parties must be supportive, tolerant, and competent. Most people, male or female, aren't any of these.

Enjoy your sad normal life with your "wife" who's just pretending to love you so she can divorce you and take half your stuff in a year.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639034
>real men grow to be fine without having to rely on people OR delusions to be happy

True, but I refuse to deny someone something they love. if they can't come to rely on nothing, it's better they be happy than depressed.

Being a douchebag about people's differences really won't convince them to change, they just become defensive.

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>>6639034
>real men do x
>expecting people to take you seriously
Laughingwaifus.flac

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639015
>probably the fact that your fantasy world and real life will collide very frequently, and you will make stupid decisions because of your made up bullshit

On the contrary, it's people who don't have a fantasy world to escape to that end up doing drugs, joining gangs, and otherwise being a menace to society.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639053
how you haven't noticed that /jp/ is full of manchildren who are in love with their imaginary waifus? I mean, why are you even here?

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639062
>doing drugs
>menace to society
Fuck you. It's not the drugs that make me a menace.

Also, I was quite the drug user during the time I had a lot of other escapes available to me, which I was also using.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639015
>If you're a competent human you won't fail a relationship

Most people out there aren't competent. You get, like one compentant person and thousands of idiots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639054
>just pretending to love you so she can divorce you and take half your stuff in a year
this is what does it for me
until science can cure whatever the fuck it is that's wrong with women I will either avoid them or live in squalor

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639075
As long as you didn't get to the point that you started stabbing people to get your crack fix, I don't really care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639054
>Maybe if you're an idiot. But I'm not and I don't think most /jp/ers are either. We're used to hiding our powerlevels amongst normals.

So in other words you're a NEET? Worthless people are not taken into consideration

>Enjoy your sad normal life with your "wife" who's just pretending to love you so she can divorce you and take half your stuff in a year.

Enjoy being an impressionable kid with an ill conceived view on how relationships work

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639062
Those people would be rejects of society and retards whether or not they had fantasy worlds to dive into.

[Anonymous No.]

Keep getting trolled /jp/

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639084
And I never will, because I'm a pacifist.

However, I find the idea of the "sanctity" of life to be a larger menace to society than drugs or murder. But lets not get into that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639057
I'm not being defensive, I'm being an elitist. I'm telling you that you live a flawed existence

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639093
I don't think you know what NEET means.

[Anonymous No.]

I fear my > 40 years in general, for a multitude of reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639062
way to generalize!

Bill Gates doesn't live in a fantasy world and look where he's at. He's the most charitable person in human history.

you can shove 5 Doritos in your mouth

anyway, the gangbangers would be rejects of society and retards whether or not they had fantasy worlds to dive into.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639119
also

one more thing:

I fail to see how willingfully deluding yourself into beliefs and feelings that clash with reality means you are less likely to cause trouble to people/the government


Don't say things like that which you cannot back up with proof, because it just makes you look like a retard who is making things up to justify his deluded bullshit

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639107
Is there such a thing as a "flawed" existence, and can you prove that you aren't living one without resorting to "because I said so"?

And after I defended the stereotypical /jp/ lifestyle too... You ingrate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639119
Bill Gates is a genius. Us ordinary people need fantasy worlds to escape to. If you are a genius, you can shape the world around you until it suits your ideal and therefore have no need of fantasy worlds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639123
A person living a deluded fantasy life would be inferior as they're constantly living the dangers of diving into and living out their made up bullshit realities

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639122
>deluding yourself into beliefs and feelings that clash with reality
Generalization. Also, define "clash with reality" in the context of the /jp/sie lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639122
>I fail to see X
Consult your optometrist. Don't go to us about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639128
I also want you to reply to my added bit below

anyway


video games are an escape from reality for most people
tv shows
movies
lots of stuff


but there's a line where making your own realities in your head can be very dangerous for you and the people around you

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639131
99% of people who imagine conservations with their waifus are hit by busses in the next six months. Remember, kids, don't do 2D. It's dangerous.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639131
>Dangers
What dangers?
Am I due to be run over in my house while I fap to VNs and watch anime? Am I going to hurt anyone else? I really don't see the danger of this lifestyle.

I think you need to realize that it really depends on WHAT fantasy world you're living in, and how deep you're willing to take the fantasy before life and limb are at stake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639145
Waifus are the number one cause of preventable death in males aged eighteen through thirty-five. They are some of the most dangerous things known to exist. Leave /jp/ at once before you are infected by this virulent mental disease and find yourself at the end of your life six months later, face down in a sink full of caustic chemicals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639145
Daydreaming kills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639135
>>6639158

first of all I never go onto /jp/, so i don't know what the average /jp/-goers lifestyle is

what i've seen from this thread is people ignoring real life goals because they imagine they have achieved these goals in their minds

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639131

You do realise that normal people are actually quite good at deluding themselves?

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639145
I doubt any /jp/sie has crossed that line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639171
>I can't comprehend the fact that different people may have different goals in life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639171
What is wrong with that? It just means that you are happy and satisfied all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639176

I fail to see how that makes it a healthy or fine thing to do.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639171
What real-life goals?
Are the goals you've determined to be valid really valid for everyone? can you prove it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639171
remember op, all of the people responding to you doesn't represent /jp/ as a whole. it gets shitty during nightfall

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639171
so why are you here now and why are you preaching about how "flawed" we are and we should change our ways? Have you not noticed from the thread that you aren't welcomed here?

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is just as bad as arguing with christians over how believing in the bibles rules can be dangerous

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639187
Define healthy.

Being happy sounds pretty damn healthy to me.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm still waiting on how waifus make you a menace to your surroundings.

Is your waifu going to command that you go on a killing spree in order to prove yourself worthy of your love?
Will you go crazy and end up on a murderous jihad slashing up everybody you know because they are 3D, and therefore impure?
Is the Anti-Waifu Task Force going to level your neighborhood block?

Pleaes, do elaborate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639152
You say that like it's a bad thing. Those people are with their waifus forever now!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639187
Because it makes one happy a lot of people that don't delude themselves have a 'disease'; depression.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depressive_realisma read it. Also, it's not accepted by everyone because that would imply that you're actually not that nice of a person and that when you cure them you're deluding them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639191
He wishes to save us all from our hikki ways.

Duh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639183
no, more like I laugh at your inferiority

>>6639184
living in an ill conceived delusion that won't last forever is not healthy

>>6639188
No, it stops them from achieving goals

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639206
GOING TO ADD:

if you delude yourself into thinking you've met these goals then you will have no drive to achieve them in real life

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639206
What goals? Why should one have goals when they are satisfied?
Someone is butthurt they didn't have to work so hard for their happiness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639192
Yep, this is motherfucking fundie central here. You've just walked into a born-again church in the nineteenth century upstate New York, in the middle of the Second Great Awakening, and if you don't agree with us you're a heretic who needs to read the Bible, God's word.

Since your lame attempts at proselytization are doomed to failure, you might as well leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639211
AND ALSO:

i'm not saying that everybody has to have a girlfriend or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639201
So you just want everyone to be miserable? Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639206
>No, it stops them from achieving goals
You mean, it stops them from achieving the goals that YOU have set for them.

It may shock and disappoint you to realize that the world does not revolve around you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639212
i was talking about goals in general

i'm just saying that by delving into fantasies too deeply you run the risk of abandoning real life goals for the fake ones you've met if your fantasies

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639213
holy projecting batman!

i'm pretty sure that guys ass is actually on fire right now


for what it's worth, if you've read this thread for more than 5 seconds you'd realize I layed the smackdown on waifufags

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>>6639221
Your distinction between "real goals" and "fake goals" is arbitrary and personal. You might as well declare a distinction between real people and fake people, and of course you're one of the real people and everyone who disagrees with you is fake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639218
No, i was talking about goals in general

i'm just saying that by delving into fantasies too deeply you run the risk of abandoning real life goals for the fake ones you've met if your fantasies

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639211
Which is fine because real life can't possibly meet up with my perfect imaginary world.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639221
You've also failed to define what a "real-life" goal is compared to a fantasy goal.

Also, you've failed to determine "success"

I've prettymuch achieved everything I wanted to. This leads to me being happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639217

No, I was saying that it's not just /jp/ that is deluding themselves, but that it's actually quite normal. I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639221
what goals are these
grow old and die
thats pretty much the only goal i can think of thats universal but even then some ppl dont care about that

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639227
>I'm too stupid to understand what a metaphor is.
>Probably because I'm a retard who's still in high school.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639229
>>6639234
>>6639237


i'm talking about their personal goals not saying that my personal goals are the goals that these people should strive to achieve

You guys obviously want a perfect girl like the one you've made in your heads or else you wouldn't have done it

saying that you have no need for real girls because you have this girl made up in your head is proof that you have deluded yourself into thinking you've accomplished a real world goal


>>6639239
>deviating from your massive asspain
>I'm studying CS at Oregon State

[Anonymous No.]

Cmon /jp/, GET INTO SHAPE, I know all of you can get into Caltech if you worked at it. Just think of what Yukari would say to you after that, "Hey anon, want to integrate my gap?" and you'd be all like "Hell yeah I can do that." then a short while later you end up in gensoukyou because you chose to quit being a lazy ass.
Get off your ass and goooooooooo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639255
>is proof that you have deluded yourself into thinking you've accomplished a real world goal
Please define what a "real world goal is."

>>6639255
Well, somebody fucked up.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639255
>THinks being in college defines high intelligence.
Okay, whatever.

>Real world goal
Again, lacking definition between "fantasy" goal and "real" goal.
They wanted a perfect girl, and found one in fiction. Goal = achieved

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639255
The only way to get a perfect girl is to imagine one. Therefore, the only way to satisfy that goal is to create an imaginary girl. Trying to accomplish it in real life would only bring sadness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639272
>Please define what a "real world goal is."

My god you're dense

>Well, somebody fucked up.

not at all

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639284
>my god you're dense
You're not good at this whole argument thing, are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639255
confirmed for a neckbeard that kissed a girl for the first time and has already planned out marriage and other "real goals".

>CS
laughinggirls.jpg
So you couldn't get into SE or got in and the course load was too much and dropped down to a lower tier program?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639284
>>Please define what a "real world goal is."
>My god you're dense
You're not good in debates, are you son?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639284
You are making an arbitrary semantic distinction between "real goals" and "fake goals." It's up to you to define what that is, or else everybody will conclude (if they haven't already) that you're full of so much shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639275
>THinks being in college defines high intelligence

No, he said I was in high school. I corrected him. It's probable that I'm certainly more intelligent than him though, regardless.

>>6639275
>>6639283
HAH HE CAN'T BEAT US IF WE GET INTO PHILOSPY ABOUT WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT ISN'T, BECAUSE HUMANS DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT ASPECT OF THE UNIVERSE YET!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639299
You seem pretty fucking retarded, so I doubt it.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639291
Couldn't get into a real CS program, like the one at UW.

CS program rankings
U of O = 63

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639275
>THinks being in college defines high intelligence

No, he said I was in high school. I corrected him. It's probable that I'm certainly more intelligent than him though, regardless.

>>6639275
>>6639283
HAH HE CAN'T BEAT US IF WE GET INTO PHILOSOPHY ABOUT WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT ISN'T, BECAUSE HUMANS DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT ASPECT OF THE UNIVERSE YET!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639299
Just admit perfect girls don't exist in real life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639309
>HAH HE CAN'T BEAT US IF WE GET INTO PHILOSOPHY ABOUT WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT ISN'T, BECAUSE HUMANS DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT ASPECT OF THE UNIVERSE YET!
Confirmed for retard.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639307
Oops, meant Oregon State.
Ranking = 69

[Anonymous No.]

Becoming a normalfag is simply too much effort for too little enjoyment. Yay, I can have sex with fat, ugly women now. My main goal is to make as much money as a lazy autist can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639309
I can just feel the butthurt radiating from my screen by reading your post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639307
No, I attend Oregon State. Not university of oregon.

GPA is decent enough. 3.65

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639307
No, I attend Oregon State. Not university of oregon.

I could transfer if I wanted, too. GPA is decent enough. 3.65

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639328
My bad, that's even worse with a ranking of 69.

Also, GPA don't mean shit for intelligence. There really ISN'T a good way to define intelligence quantitatively that I know of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639323
confirmed for not being able to prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639349
>Also, GPA don't mean shit for intelligence. There really ISN'T a good way to define intelligence quantitatively that I know of.

Where did a GPA imply high intellect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639352
You didn't make an argument that could be proved wrong. You went on some ridiculous supposedly ironic rant about how we're demanding that you delve into philosophical depths, when in reality all we did is point out that "my god you're dense" is not a response generally accepted in debate.

You're welcome to rectify your failure at any time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639352
You aren't wrong, you just gave up. You aren't right either, obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

>So anyway, do you ever fear of being forever alone permavirgin when you're in your 30s/40s etc. ?
I fear not being one.

You normal.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639363
Took it in stride with the line just above the "high school" line. The one that you, apparently, didn't bother to refute.
You may not be in high school, and you may be in college, but you're still a damn nimrod. You can't even hold a proper argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639366
No, I said your dense because of this:

>HAH HE CAN'T BEAT US IF WE GET INTO PHILOSOPHY ABOUT WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT ISN'T, BECAUSE HUMANS DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT ASPECT OF THE UNIVERSE YET!

You refuse to accept that clinging to delusions can change the way you see yourself and the world, and this can be a negative thing


You are just as bad as Christians in a way

You can continue to inadvertently insult yourself with each post you make, if you want.

[Anonymous No.]

As long as I can see Pygma-chan's beautiful face everyday, even if it's just a picture, I'll be OK. I don't need anything else in this world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639384
I fully agree that whoever made that allcaps rant is a retard.

Hint: It wasn't us, it was you.

>You refuse to accept that clinging to delusions can change the way you see yourself and the world, and this can be a negative thing.
This was not your initial claim. Your new, modified claim is a reasonable one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639378
he threw an ad hominem, why would i brother to refute a "you're dumb" line.

You're an idiot for thinking that my college bit wasn't a direct response to him thinking I was in high school.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639384
And you refuse to see that attempting impossible goals will only make you depressed and unhappy.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639384
>your
Confirmed for brain failure.

Fantasy CAN have a negative effect, however, you have failed to define how the particular fantasy can be harmful, other than stating that we turn away from non-defined goals.

How does it feel to know that you're an abysmal debater?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639400
I'm sorry. Let me revise my assertion: despite the fact that you may not actually be a retarded high school freshman, you post in a way that makes you indistinguishable from one.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking at this thread, it's not even common on /jp/ anymore to just be satisfied with your beautiful Gensokyoian wife. Where am I supposed to go now, if /jp/ just becomes another one of /a/b/v/? Because it's pretty much been one for the last week or so, I don't know what happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639399
>I fully agree that whoever made that allcaps rant is a retard


The all caps post is a parody of you making it more convulted then it needs to be with asking the difference between a real goal and a fake goal.

You're deviating from the initial point, which is how refusing to accept that clinging to delusions can change the way you see yourself and the world, and this can be a negative thing, and that's as bad as Christians

>This was not your initial claim.

Yes it was, your reading comprehension is god awful

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639384
>You refuse to accept that clinging to delusions can change the way you see yourself and the world, and this can be a negative thing
What evidence do you have to support this hypothesis, and regardless you have yet to provide a definition of what a "real world goal is".

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639400
I jsut fail to see why you felt the need to correct the factual error of what type of school you attend and not the "factual error" of your intelligence level.

It is an ad hominem, but so's the part about high school.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639414
The people who are happy with their waifus didn't post in this thread because they are not autistic faggots. The people currently arguing right now are not representative of /jp/ as a whole.

I'm one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639409
>Confirmed for brain failure.

Uh oh, I made one slip up!


>Fantasy CAN have a negative effect, however, you have failed to define how the particular fantasy can be harmful, other than stating that we turn away from non-defined goals.

the particular fantasy is irrelevant when the point still stands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639414
Why do people just constantly have to say this over and over again? We need a sticky for "why is /jp/ so shitty" comments and posters to do their daily proclamations of how they're going to leave /jp/ forever today, they swear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639419
You fail to see why I shouldn't respond to a "you're dumb" post as opposed to an something factual?

[Anonymous No.]

I have a waifu, but I'm aware of reality. Really, she's so much like me it's an excuse to be a narcissist.

And by aware of reality, I mean, not a hikki, have a job, don't want or need friends, fully aware that love is a bunch of bullshit that makes you feel good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639416
>The all caps post is a parody of you making it more convulted then it needs to be with asking the difference between a real goal and a fake goal.
Your parody fucking sucks because it in no way, shape, or form corresponds to anything that I have said. You have made an arbitrary distinction between "real goals" like "gain momentary happiness from ejaculating inside a girl" and "fake goals" like "find inner peace." I asked you to provide a definition of "real goal," so that defending on the definition of real goal, we could argue whether real goals are inherently superior to "fake goals" like you claim they are. But apparently you were unable to do that because you are retarded.

>You're deviating from the initial point, which is how refusing to accept that clinging to delusions can change the way you see yourself and the world, and this can be a negative thing
It certainly can be a negative things. Many things can be negative. The addition of the word "can" is a softening of your original assertion and hence is not the same as your original assertion, contrary to what you have just said.

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to do things in real life, that's fine, but be aware that won't ever be as happy as people who are living in perfect fantasy worlds. Also, you should leave this board.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639428
More than one, just the only one I bothered to point out.
It's not irrelevant if you're failing to define how the waifu fantasy can be harmful. You've basically given up on your original point, and we really have no more disagreement.
So you agree that waifus are harmless, or you seem to think they CAN be harmful, yet cannot define why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639416
Also, pretending to be a retard to make fun of other people doesn't actually make the person you're trying to make fun of look stupid. The only one who it makes look like a retard is the person acting like one. Which is you.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm more pissed at this guy's ridiculous line spacing than I am with his ridiculous opinions


Every post


Spaced like this


Doesn't add more weight to your "argument"


Reported

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639430
I wouldn't have posted these things until recently. I have definitely seen a sharp loss of quality on /jp/.

I'm sorry I'm disturbing your thread about real relationships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639436
>but be aware that won't ever be as happy as people who are living in perfect fantasy world

You see, this sense of superiority that everyone here taunts is what inspires normalfags to call you idiots. They're two different ways to live your life. There are people who live in fantasy that are just as empty as a guy with a normal life that he hates. There are people with what you would call normal lives who are just as happy and fulfilled as you guys.

Cut it out with the superiority and get along, for petes sakes. You too, normalfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639418
What evidence? Look at any given fundie Christian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639459
The enmity of normalfags is something /jp/ treasures and cultivates because it keeps them out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639430
Contrary to popular belief, not everyone who browses /jp/ is a lonely hikki, some of us aren't secondary fags in touhou and in life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639459
Well thats....

That actually...

Makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639459
Who cares what normalfags call us, I don't respect their opinion.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

The fact that I'm still a virgin at 27 makes me feel more alpha.

Maybe my brain just works differently than others or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639462
Christianity has been around for thousands of years. St. Augustine of Hippo had a "born-again" experience in the year 386 that caused him to become a priest. What about this revelatory religious experience caused his life to be inferior to that of his counterparts who had not experienced such a thing?

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639432
When the factual error is an ad hominem attack, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639435
>Your parody fucking sucks because it in no way, shape, or form corresponds to anything that I have said. You have made an arbitrary distinction between "real goals" like "gain momentary happiness from ejaculating inside a girl" and "fake goals" like "find inner peace."

No, I didn't. Again, you have god awful reading comprehension

>But apparently you were unable to do that because you are retarded.

No, because that's irrelevant to the main point

>The addition of the word "can" is a softening of your original assertion and hence is not the same as your original assertion, contrary to what you have just said.

Irrelevant, it still stands. And you can't refute it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639467

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639479
But the factual error had substance, like what school I go to. That's fundamentally different from "you're dumb"

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639466
And you haven't noticed that it also draws in some especially determined whackjobs who think they're going to "improve your life" by arguing with you over the internet?

If you didn't cultivate this "Haha, we're so hikki, stay out normalfags" attitude, and didn't make these ronery threads, retards from both sides would never speak up and everyone would just discuss their common interests as usual.

If that was the case, you wouldn't even know who was a normalfag and who was a hikki because people wouldn't shit up the board with this.

Saging to prevent bumping this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639467
>some of us aren't secondary fags in touhou and in life.
That's disgusting, you're implying the people who actually belong here are out fucking women all day like you, and everyone else is a secondary?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639445
>It's not irrelevant if you're failing to define how the waifu fantasy can be harmful.

No, it's that particular fantasy isn't harmful. See, this is why you're dense. I said living in a delusion - like a fundamentalist Christian - is harmful

[Anonymous No.]

No, because I'd prefer to stay a virgin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639480
>No, I didn't. Again, you have god awful reading comprehension
Yes, you did draw a distinction between the two, which must be clarified if we are to accept your assumption that one of them is superior to the other. Does "you run the risk of abandoning real life goals for the fake ones" ring a bell in your head?

>Irrelevant, it still stands. And you can't refute it.
I do not wish to refute your modified statement because I agree with it. However, it is not irrelevant, because the fact that your new point stands does not automatically imply that your old point stands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639446
No, it shows yourself your own idiocy. That's the purpose of a parody

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639488
Substance does not define "ad hominem".
It's logically inconsistent to say you aren't replying to one because it's ad hominem and reply to the other because it's ad hominem "with substance"
Cognitive dissonance at it's finest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639491
Based on your usage of sage, you probably don't even know how to nokosage. And you're telling other people how to behave on this board?

[Anonymous No.]

OP, if you are so ashamed of your virginity, you can always go and stick your dick into a hooker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639470
Why, because they're successful and you're a pitiful shut in?

>What's that! You go to Harvard and your benefit society! NOT IN MY HOUSE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639494
Please respond to my point about St. Augustine of Hippo. Or St. Theresa of Avila, if you would like. How did being devout Christians detract from these peoples' lives?

>>6639491
The whackjobs out to play priest are few and far between. Regular normalfags are everywhere, as they are, you know, normal, and compose the vast majority of 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: People think they're going to change each others minds with an internet fight! Baka baka!

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639494
Did I somehow get you confused with the guy who was bashing waifus as harmful, because you've done a complete 180 if you are one in the same.
I am now thoroughly confused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639493
Clear Lunatic and get chicks, what is there to hate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639504
It has not shown anyone their own idiocy, besides possibly your own. A parody must have basis in order to be effective, and since we were neither screaming in allcaps nor did we demand a philosophic exposition from you (a simple definition was requested), your parody was off-base. As a result, your shittily written rant only served to indicate that it's author was a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639505
>Substance does not define "ad hominem".

for the two ad hominems, the school bit was more worthwhile to respond to the as the intelligence one was baseless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639494
Have you ever considered that maybe actually attempting some of the things you can day dream about in real life is more harmful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639506
Thanks for telling me about nokosage. This is going to be really useful.

>>6639513
Excactly. You're not keeping anyone out, you're just attracting the occasional whackjob/troll by flaunting the usual /jp/ attitude. Which to be honest, wouldn't be a problem if you ignored the morons and moved on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639517
Changing people's mind on the internet is probably more reasonable than trying to do it in real life, where THE ONE WITH THE LOUDEST VOICE WINS and likely one of them will just move away from the other before any meaningful argument can take place.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639536
So was the one about high school.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639540
There are two issues here - whether /jp/ should keep the "normal get out" attitude and whether continued argument in this thread serves any purpose. I happen to agree that the first is a good idea, but that continuing this thread actually does not do anything of the sort (ie, does not contribute anything to the board). However I am going to continue my argument because I a confrontational autist who loves to argue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639557
At least you're an honest confrontational autist.

[Anonymous No.]

Some /jp/ blogger somewhere made a really nice post on 2D love arguments a month ago. I'm too lazy to dig it up right now.

[Anonymous No.]

When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639501
>Yes, you did draw a distinction between the two, which must be clarified if we are to accept your assumption that one of them is superior to the other. Does "you run the risk of abandoning real life goals for the fake ones" ring a bell in your head?

my initial point was clearly how real world goals are superior, and how living a in a delusion is harmful

see here: >>6639384


anyway real world goals are superior because they benefit humanity.

>I do not wish to refute your modified statement because I agree with it

Good, then I won the argument. Typical, typical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639572
The planets and stars are guided by the laws of physics. In common knowledge, "gravity in general".

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639524
no, you're just fucking retarded. I wasn't bashing waifus as harmful, I was saying that living in a delusion is harmful

see here: >>6639384

I had two points - real world goals are superior, and later on tacked on how living in a delusion is negative, and it's as bad as being a Christian.

[Anonymous No.]

People need to stop acting losing their virginity is anything more than just self-branding.

Nothing changes once you've had sex, its just another experience like anything else, and honestly theres too much risk and baggage that comes with it.

How about all you filthy no-skydivers? I feel bad for all you poor lonely nerds who've never gone skydiving, I bet you'll be 30-40 years old and still never skydived like a nerd, and then you'll be too old to handle it.

SAME FUCKING THING.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639574
>benefit humanity

There are billions of people on this planet and you think anyone on this board could benefit humanity even if they tried?

Let me laugh harder!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639574
What good is there in "benefiting humanity"? What is the eventual outcome of that supposed to be? There is no point to it at all. Unless you are selfless (and you are certainly not, you just want to pretend you are and lord yourself over the people who really belong here), there is no point to helping such a vague thing. Help yourself.

Even ignoring the core of the argument, many people hold jobs that anyone could do and simply prevent that job from being taken by someone else who can't get work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639574
As I have pointed out, your point of how "real world goals are superior" is difficult to interpret and impossible to argue against until you give us a definition of "real world goal." Is your definition thereof "a goal that benefits humanity," or is it something else?

>Good, then I won the argument. Typical, typical.
You are feel to believe that you have won the argument by getting us to agree on a perfectly reasonable statement that was different from the statement that we had been previously discussing. Your belief that you have "won the argument" is a good example of a delusion that is patently false and yet may serve to make you feel good about yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639595
This. Except I bed skydiving is way better than sex.

[Sing with me, /jaypee/! No.]

This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
The age of Aquarius
Aquarius!
Aquarius!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639574

Here is a real world goal to benefit humanity:

Get a PhD, make a groundbreaking discovery that benefits humanity.

Here is what I am capable of:

Flipping burgers
Fapping
Posting on the internet

[Anonymous No.]

>no, you're just fucking retarded. I wasn't bashing waifus as harmful, I was saying that living in a delusion is harmful
In this thread, the reason delusions were brought up in the first place is because somebody asserted that having a waifu was inherently delusional. If you were not that same somebody you should have noted that the context of the debate had changed and that you were discussing delusions in general.

>I had two points - real world goals are superior
I reiterate that your statement is effectively meaningless until you can give us a working definition of "real world goal."

>and later on tacked on how living in a delusion is negative, and it's as bad as being a Christian.
My question as to how St. Augustine's devout Christian faith adversely impacted his life has been open for almost twenty minutes now without response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639595
I fucked while skydiving once, does this make me a winner?

[Anonymous No.]

inb4 mating benefits humanity because propagation of the species, and we're all losers for not making babies.

I have that covered, already donated to a sperm bank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639614
>Get a PhD, make a groundbreaking discovery that benefits humanity.

Like you are capable of doing that. You're calling us deluded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639595
A lot changes once you've had sex. Many virgins develop almost a psychosis around it, whereas once you've experienced it you can take it easy because you know what it's about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639632
You are a retard. Read the second half of his post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639632
>implying I said I was capable of that

Lol. No. Forever a loser.

[Sing with me, /jaypee/! No.]

Harmony and understanding
Sympathy and trust abounding
No more falsehoods or derisions
Golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revalation
And the mind's true liberation
Aquarius!
Aquarius!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639647
Aquarius!

Aquarius!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639600
>give us a definition of "real world goal."

Become more cultured so you can properly understand what is associated with real life


>You are feel to believe that you have won the argument by getting us to agree on a perfectly reasonable statement that was different from the statement that we had been previously discussing. Your belief that you have "won the argument" is a good example of a delusion that is patently false and yet may serve to make you feel good about yourself.


the "delusion is bad" statement was necessarily different from my original "waifus hinder you from accomplishing goals" statement. It was more of me substantiating on my original statement, wasn't it?

Regardless, my "living in a delusion" statement is a more substantive argument, and you agreeing with that contradicts your lifestyle and how you cling to waifus

I win.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

Why the fuck is this thread here? Take it to /a/, shitposters. Reported.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639655
My waifu inspired me to study to become a neurologist.

Thank you so fucking much, Harumi. Only a few more years to go!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639655
>Become more cultured so you can properly understand what is associated with real life
Again, you refuse to give us a definition that will allow us to continue the debate.

>the "delusion is bad" statement
I did not agree with that statement. Your modified statement was effectively "delusions can be a negative thing," which is highly different from "delusions are a negative thing." The qualifier can substantially changes the content of the statement.

>I win.
Enjoy your delusions. Until you can provide a working definition, the rest of the debate will be so much going around in circles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639655
*wasn't necessarily

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639670
>Harumi

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639675
>Again, you refuse to give us a definition that will allow us to continue the debate.

For us to properly debate the other side must be informed on the subject. If you aren't informed on the real world then you cannot debate. Leave.


>Your modified statement was effectively "delusions can be a negative thing," which is highly different from "delusions are a negative thing." The qualifier can substantially changes the content of the statement.


No it doesn't. The crux of the point still stands.

If you don't agree with it then you're an idiot.

living in a delusion - like a fundamentalist Christian - is harmful

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>people playing post tennis for 200 posts
>>same two guys just going back and forth over and over

When it gets like this you can't even tell what the original argument was about anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639689
The difference is that fundies actually believe that their imaginary friend is real. I know that mine is fake.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639695
>fake
You monster.
They're "fictional" not "fake"

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639689
>Leave.
I am not asking what the "real world is," I am asking about your particular definition of what a "real world goal" is. I will indeed leave after this point since your refusal to provide a working definition leaves your statement nebulous and therefore immune to analysis, and hence any further discussion about it is pointless.

>No it doesn't. The crux of the point still stands.
If you do not believe that inserting "can" into a sentence can substantially modify its meaning you are a fucking moron.

>living in a delusion - like a fundamentalist Christian - is harmful
The question of how St. Augustine's devout Christian faith adversely impacted his life has now been open for a full half hour, unaddressed.

Since you refuse to respond to the two points currently under attention conclude that you are either unwilling to or intellectually incapable of doing so, rendering any further debate pointless.

Have a nice day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639689
I know my waifu is fake. Why are you arguing against imaginary friends anyways? They're not a harmful thing to have unless they interfere with the quality of life of you and those around you.

And to be honest, it's not the waifus interfering with anyone's life here. It's self esteem issues and fear of the world. These imaginary friends are all we have to be happy about.

[Anonymous No.]

People need to learn to stop caring what some faggot on the internet thinks of you and take it easy.

[Anonymous No.]

People are evil.


People can be evil.

NO DIFFERENCE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639711
Because he's wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639695
If you can hide your power level in the real world then that's fine.

as long as you do not do things for this character in your head and stuff like that

But

even then if it fills a spot in your emotions, which can be potentially harmful

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.muziboo.com/anonymou/music/fukkireta-cover/

>This thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639718

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639723
>potentially

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639723
It's not any more harmful than a real person, even if you date them in your head.

Really, what damage is being done unless you turn into one of those disillusioned faggots who whine about 3DPD OH NOOOOOO. Keep your wits about you and having a waifu is a-ok.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639718

Whatever bru, is telling yourself that makes you happy then keep doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639706
>you do not believe that inserting "can" into a sentence can substantially modify its meaning you are a fucking moron.

if you think it does, then you're a fucking moron. The crux of the point still stands. It's still harmful.

Stealing can be bad
Stealing is bad

See? Stealing is potentially bad. Still stands.


>The question of how St. Augustine's devout Christian faith adversely impacted his life has now been open for a full half hour, unaddressed.

That's because that point is pants on head retarded and does negate how Christians are retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>Still posting in this thread

Why do I waste the night away so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639734
You're trying to say
>Waifus are harmful

They're not.

Unless you're that guy from /a/ who's devoted to saber. He advocates living in a cave and retreating into your own mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639734
Inhaling gas is bad for you.
Inhaling gas can be bad for you.

SAME THING. PLEASE DO NOT INHALE OXYGEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639731
>Really, what damage is being done unless you turn into one of those disillusioned faggots who whine about 3DPD OH NOOOOOO. Keep your wits about you and having a waifu is a-ok.

This is exactly what i'm saying. I agree with you.

i'm just saying that this can be potentially harmful and i would like people to keep that in mind. it all depends on how each person handles this sort of thing.

there's going to be people who handle it in a way that can harm them, and there's going to be people that handle it in a way that is fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639750
There's a problem with the people, not the "delusions". It can't be helped.

[Anonymous No.]

Good news, guys. Thanks to this great man, I think we've discovered the most powerful tool in logic that has ever existed.

What's that? I can't prove God rationally? Wrong.
It's possible that God exists.
Therefore, God exists.

I can justify anything.
It's possible that a child would not be harmed by having sex with an older man.
Therefore, children cannot be harmed by having sex with an older man.

I can't wait until the law passes.

I can even do it for this argument:
Some delusions can be harmless.
Therefore, delusions are harmless.

We've won, guys. Undeniable logic right here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639742
>>6639745
I'm saying that waifus are inherently bad, like I posted here: >>6638889 (this started it all)

and it really depends on how you handle it.


Video games, for example. I realize that this isn't a productive hobby. Even controlled burts of vidya or SPORADIC marathons still isn't necessarily good, as it's not as productive and good as a real world goal. This is objective.

Everything I said in this thread is irrefutable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639734
>if you think it does, then you're a fucking moron. The crux of the point still stands. It's still harmful.
I wonder how you managed to make it through twelve years plus without realizing that proof by example is a logical fallacy.

Penicillin is harmful.
Penicillin can be harmful.

At this point I'm going to retire for the day since I believe anybody who has witnessed this most recent exchange will conclude that you are too incompetent to expected to debate reasonably.

>That's because that point is pants on head retarded and does negate how Christians are retarded
If you believe that Christian faith is inherently harmful, you should be able to explain how it was harmful in this particular case. Up until now you have been treating it as a given, when it is far from such. Also, your sentence doesn't parse.

[Anonymous No.]

>Everything I said in this thread is irrefutable.
You are completely delusional.

>>6639761
Who are you even talking to?

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone

Stop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zacUcCCOoRw

chill

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639766
>Penicillin

doing it wrong. Equating penicillin to delusions is a fallacy

>Up until now you have been treating it as a given

That's because to anybody with an IQ above 16, deluded Christians are idiots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639772
Does it matter who I'm talking to? Don't you see we're at the dawn of an intellectual revolution?

We could be at the dawn of an intellectual revolution.
Therefore, we are.

You see?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639773
Aw yeah man

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639764
can you grab a trip so I can filter you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639782
People like you are why I can't say I'm not an atheist without being called an inherent asshole. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639772
No, i'm not.

playing vidya repeatedly instead of doing a substantive goal is not good.

ABUSING vidya is to the point where it warps your mind is terrible.

clinging to your waifus are bad

turning into one of thoseaggots who whine about 3DPD OH NOOOOOO is terrible.


I used video games as an example to put things into perspective, as you're familiar with those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639782
Except I have not stated that penicillin is delusions, I was pointing out that the insertion of the word "can" into a sentence can result in a new sentence with a different meaning. You don't even know what a fallacy is. You're a fucking retard.

>That's because to anybody with an IQ above 16, deluded Christians are idiots.
Issac Newton and Galileo Galilei were Christians, and they were a damned sight smarter than you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639791

What's that, you're an atheist? GOOD JOB BEING AS IRRATIONAL AS CHRSTIAN FUCKS YOU MORON. DID YOU REALIZE THAT YOUR NON-BELIEF IN GOD IS ALSO JUST THAT A BELIEF??? CAN YOU PROVE GOT DOESN"T EXIST?

AGNOSTIC MASTER RACE, YOU MAY NOT BE INTERNET ASSHOLE BUT YOU ARE INTERNET MORON

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639793
Anybody who makes the statement, "everything I have said is irrefutable," is either making a mathematical or syllogistic argument, is a genius, or is delusional. You are neither making a syllogistic nor mathematical argument, and you are not a genius.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639773
im chillin like the fist of the motherfuckin north star

fuck some smart guy could grab me right now and use me to chill some rare alloy and use that shit as a superconductor

thats how chill i am

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639801
But I do know it's just a belief....

Meanie!

;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639798
>"can" into a sentence can result in a new sentence with a different meaning.

That's true, except we're talking about something that's inherently bad. So whether I insert "can" into the sentence is trivial when regardless it's not productive nor objectively good

>Issac Newton and Galileo Galilei were Christians, and they were a damned sight smarter than you.

it's like you strive on inadvertently insulting yourself with each post you make. Quit with the logical fallacies.

[Anonymous No.]

I CANNOT INTO SENTENCE

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639812
Rule 1 of internet arguments: Can't counter it with ease? Those fuckers are using logical fallacies!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639812
You probably only learned the phrase logical fallacy from the guy you're talking to. He's right that everyone who sees this exchange can clearly observe that you are incapable of argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639798
>Issac Newton and Galileo Galilei were Christians, and they were a damned sight smarter than you.

I don't get it. Are you stupidly defending Christians or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639812
>That's true, except we're talking about something that's inherently bad.
You said "if you think it inserting 'can' into a sentence can substantially modify its meaning you are a fucking moron." You are a backpedaling faggot. And lastly, you are employing circular logic by assuming your conclusion.

>it's like you strive on inadvertently insulting yourself with each post you make. Quit with the logical fallacies.
You seem to have asserted that Christianity is obviously retarded to everybody with an IQ about sixteen. Galileo and Newton were two people with IQs above sixteen who did not believe that Christianity was retarded. This would seem to serve as a counterexample to your claim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639829
official rule 1: Don't use a straw man

>>6639832
No. he's defending diluted chrisitans by bringing up historical figures. He's too stupid for words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639834
If I were to estimate the intellectual capacity of the average Christian, and the person I am currently arguing with, I would bet that the average Christian would win in that respect by a mile.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639841
>diluted
>too stupid for words
Hmmm......

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639812
>>6639782
>>6639734
>>6639689
>>6639655
>>6639574
>>6639480
>>6639416
>>6639384
>>6639352
>>6639309
>>6639255
>>6639221
>>6639206
>>6639171
>>6639131
>>6639107
>>6639034
>>6638962
>>6638889

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639841
Please respond to the point detailed in >>6639837 rather than making personal attacks.

Also, even if it were irrelevant, derailment is not a logical fallacy. Please learn what words mean before you attempt to use them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639837
>You are a backpedaling faggot.

Wrong, as it was implied that i was referring to this argument at hand. if you were above a functioning retard you'd realize this


>you are employing circular logic by assuming your conclusion.


No i'm not

>Galileo and Newton were also not exposed to what we know now. You're deviating from the point

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639837
>You are a backpedaling faggot.

Wrong, as it was implied that i was referring to this argument at hand. if you were above a functioning retard you'd realize this


>you are employing circular logic by assuming your conclusion.


No i'm not

Galileo and Newton were also not exposed to what we know now. You're deviating from the point

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639855

Ne, ne, elitist faggot...

What is love?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639848
herp derp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639864
Ne, ne, elitist faggot...

What is love?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639868
Man, look at that doughy, derpy face.

[Anonymous No.]

>247 posts and 26 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

Best thread on /jp/ in a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639868
Hnnnnng

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639855
You effectively stated: "if you think inserting 'can' into a sentence can substantially modify its meaning you are a fucking moron." You added no indication that there were qualifiers to your statement. Since I am not the mistress of the Palace of the Earth Spirits, I have no way of reading your mind and realizing that you didn't actually mean what you said, but something else instead.

>No i'm not
Yes, you are. The addition of "can" to the statement "X is harmful" if you have already concluded that "X is harmful." If you do not take "X is harmful" as a given you cannot equate "X is harmful" and "X can be harmful by your logic."

Your last point actually makes sense. However, there are practicing scientists out there today who do not believe that Christianity is inherently retarded, which would seem to subvert your point.

[Anonymous No.]

TAKE IT

FUCKING

EASY

HOLY SHIT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639868
Baby don't hurt me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639876
>You added no indication that there were qualifiers to your statement.


I've presented myself as the more intelligent person in this thread, you have no incentive to believe that I'd refer to anything but inherently bad things


>However, there are practicing scientists out there today who do not believe that Christianity is inherently retarded, which would seem to subvert your point.

No, there's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639595
I read your post and thought of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639883
Yes, there are. There have always been.

Einstein, Planck, Mendel, and so on.

[(USER WAS PANNED FOR THIS BOAST) !Q/HPYZXvRk No.]

>>6639798

They were Christian because they didn't think there was no other choice and society would not let them make any other choice.

Also Newton was a dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639887
They were certainly Light Christians then. They didn't believe dinosaurs roamed with men nor did they believe the earth was created in 7 days. They simply figured God sparked the big bang.

That's different, and that's not delusional or harmful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639890
Oh man

ARGUING ABOUT RELIGION

YOU'RE WRONG, NO REASON WHY! JUST BECAUSE YOU BELONG TO BELIEF SYSTEM X!

I'm pretty sure it was their personal choice. Inb4 ad hominem, I'm not christian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639883
>I've presented myself as the more intelligent person in this thread, you have no incentive to believe that I'd refer to anything but inherently bad things
I took your statement at face value. You said X. I interpreted that to mean that you believed X. X happened to be a blatantly fucking retarded statement which you are currently backpedaling madly away from by claiming when you said X you didn't mean X, you meant "X only in this one specific case which you had conveniently forgot to point out until you were called out on it."

>No, there's not.
Reserach by Ecklund shows that between 1% and 2% of practicing university scientists identify as fundamentalist or evangelical in religion. Therefore, they exist.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ - Religion, Virgins and Propositional Calculus

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639897
Calm down bro, he's stating a fact. Those guys may have believed in the more literal aspects of Christiantiy as science was not as developed as it is now. Einstein and whoever else certainly did not literally believe in the variety aspects of Christianity that make you delusional.

Try again, dip shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639595
>people need to stop acting losing their virginity is anything more than just self-branding.
>Nothing changes once you've had sex, its just another experience like anything else
it's "just another experience" that has been loaded with social and customary importance for the last 4000 years or so.
I know, masturbating once is probably the same thing on a theoretical level, but you're forgetting all the social conditioning we absorbed since childhood.
If skydiving was the current social standard to feel like an healthy human being yeah, I'd feel like a loser for not skydiving.
In before >lol he listens to society laughingwhores.gif
things you imprint in childhood/adolescence are the hardest to let go of, whether you want it or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639899
>I took your statement at face value

And that's where you went wrong


>Reserach by Ecklund shows that between 1% and 2% of practicing university scientists identify as fundamentalist or evangelical in religion. Therefore, they exist.

They're also delusional, as science in their fields prove them wrong.


Again, you lose.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm ONCE coming here and THAT'S what I see? What the fuck?

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>6639736
>>that Kilgamayan image macro

I lol'd big time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639902
>things you imprint in childhood/adolescence are the hardest to let go of, whether you want it or not.

So how did the loss of Santa Claus work out for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>This thread

/jp/ - Superiority complexes and baseless arguments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639904
>And that's where you went wrong
If you had said what you meant instead of saying something completely retarded, and people drew conclusions based on the fact that you said something completely retarded, that's your fault, not mine.

>They're also delusional, as science in their fields prove them wrong.
I didn't say that they were delusional, I said that they had IQs above sixteen. To be a practicing scientist generally necessitates an IQ about sixteen, and you stated that these people did not exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639910
GET OUT KS DEVS! REPORTED!

[Aura No.]

>>6639914
No never

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639902
You ARE a loser for not skydiving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639913
>If you had said what you meant

I did say what I mean. It's up to you to intellectually keep up with me and rationally understand what i'm referring to

>To be a practicing scientist generally necessitates an IQ about sixteen, and you stated that these people did not exist.

But that doesn't negate how they're delusional, so my point on how the delusional waifu lovers are tied with Christan and how that's a negative connotation still stands.

[Anonymous No.]

Here are things that have been fairly well-established in this thread.

1. You're a fucking moron.
2. You don't know what a logical fallacy is.
3. You say fucking stupid things and backpedal away from them when called out.
4. You are arrogant as all fucking hell.
5. You switch arguments and then declare that other people agreed with the old argument when the agree with the new argument, an idea which has no basis
6. You are a fucking moron.
7. You are a fucking moron.
8. You are a fucking moron.

[athens !SysNpnp3nU No.]

>So anyway, do you ever fear of being forever alone permavirgin when you're in your 30s/40s etc.

Nope. I'll probably be married by then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639921
For your sake, I hope you're referring to this person:

>>6639913

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639920
Got a problem bub?

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639923
Holy shit, Athens is still around.
My arch-nemesis....

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639920
>It's up to you to realize that when I say something fucking stupid, I was actually saying something smart.
Okay.

>But that doesn't negate how they're delusional, so my point on how the delusional waifu lovers are tied with Christan and how that's a negative connotation still stands.
I was arguing in opposition to a subpoint you made later, "That's because to anybody with an IQ above 16, deluded Christians are idiots."

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639930
>I was arguing in opposition to a subpoint you made later

That' deviating from the main point

[athens !SysNpnp3nU No.]

>>6639929
Hey friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639933
The main point is at a deadlock because you refuse to give a definition for "real world goal" as opposed to "fake goal." We've been over this.

If you happen to be wrong about a detail I'm going to call you out on that detail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639946
>The main point is at a deadlock because you refuse to give a definition for "real world goal" as opposed to "fake goal." We've been over this.

That's implying there was a singular point, which there wasn't.

As you can see here, early on in the thread and in the argument's formidable stage, I stated that it's also bad as being delusional is a negative thing: >>6639384

You went on to defend Christians or something later on as a direct response to this, inadvertently insulting yourself.


>If you happen to be wrong about a detail I'm going to call you out on that detail.

Then you would also deviate from the other point in the process

[「ロリあき」 No.]

You know guys, I LOVE to argue, but even I gave up on convincing this backpedaling faggot of anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639955
>That's implying there was a singular point, which there wasn't.
I don't care what I'm implying. You were asked this question two full hours ago. You never answered it.

>I stated that it's also bad as being delusional is a negative thing.
Being delusional can be a negative thing, yes. But you have yet to demonstrate that its drawbacks always outweigh its benefits.

>You went on to defend Christians or something later on as a direct response to this, inadvertently insulting yourself.
You've basically made it clear to the world that you're a total fucking retard throughout this entire debate, but hey, not my problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639961
Nobody was backpedaling

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639961
That's because I'm well over twice as autistic as you.

And from the looks of it, so is the other guy.

Bow in the presence of masters.

[Anonymous No.]

First time visiting this board. You all need help man.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>6639966
I tip my hat to the masters of autism.
>>6639965
Not even gonna get drawn into it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639962
>I don't care what I'm implying. You were asked this question two full hours ago. You never answered it.

There was still the latter half of the point to discuss

regardless, your question was remained un-answered

as real world goals are already defined, you are just uncultured


>But you have yet to demonstrate that its drawbacks always outweigh its benefits.

See: Christian

>You've basically made it clear to the world that you're a total fucking retard throughout this entire debate, but hey, not my problem.

No i'm pretty sure you were the retard when trying to validate Christianity

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639973
Good. Your incessant inaccuracies are grating

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639974
>as real world goals are already defined, you are just uncultured
If by "you are uncultured" you mean "I am a huge faggot who refuses to provide definitions, as is standard policy whenever a debate over terminology occurs, in order because I know I will get shit on in the subsequent argument, and also a doubly backpedaling faggot," then okay.

>See: Christian
See: Proof by example is a logical fallacy, you intellectual illiterate.

>No i'm pretty sure you were the retard
But that's where you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

So THIS is what Otaku Culture is

Illogical religious debates and namefags

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639980
no this what happens when normalfriends come to our board

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639979
>If by "you are uncultured" you mean "I am a huge faggot who refuses to provide definitions, as is standard policy whenever a debate over terminology occurs, in order because I know I will get shit on in the subsequent argument, and also a doubly backpedaling faggot," then okay.


Why would i insults with baseless bullshit as a replacement of insulting you (calling you uncultured)

>See: Proof by example is a logical fallacy, you intellectual illiterate.


Herp derp

>why is blowing up a building bad?

>shows you examples

>logical fallacy!


Doing it wrong.jpg


>But that's where you're wrong.

You think this because you're not self aware of your retardation

[Anonymous No.]

>295 posts and 36 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.
Good god, /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6638853
>>6638853
>>6638853
>>6638853
>>6638853
>>6638853
>>6638853
>>6638853
>>6638853
>>6638853

YOU

THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639989
>Why would i insults with baseless bullshit as a replacement of insulting you (calling you uncultured)
But that doesn't even make sense. Backpedaling faggot.

>Herp derp
If you genuinely don't know that proof by example is not a good way of demonstrating the truth of a general proposition then you're a fucking retard. But hey, we knew that already.

>Another super stupid example.
Case in point.

>You think this because you're not self aware of your retardation
The one who says baka is the baka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639989
**Why would i insult myself with baseless bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639996
Because you had a flash of insight and realized that you were completely delusional?

Unfortunately, that's unlikely to happen.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>6639991
but he's right

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639994
>If you genuinely don't know that proof by example is not a good way of demonstrating the truth of a general proposition then you're a fucking retard.


If you're unaware that providing a concrete example can refute your point then you're clinically retarded


>The one who says baka is the baka.

>shitty /jp/ speak

Nope.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639998
>trying to validate your god awful logic with a poorly conceived point


But that's wrong, you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640001
>If you're unaware that providing a concrete example can refute your point then you're clinically retarded
Examples can only serve as counterexamples to a general proposition. If I were making an absolute statement, then examples could refute my point. However, I'm not the one making the absolute statement, you are. Hence, you're fucking retarded.

>shitty /jp/ speak
WATASHI NO NAMAE WA ANANIMASU OFFU KAKUSU TO WATASHI WA KIRAI EVERY SINGLE ONE OF ANATA. ALL OF ANATA ARE FAT, BAKA BAKA NO-LIFES WHO SPEND EVERY SECOND OF MAINICHI MITEIRUING AT BAKA PICTURES. ANATA WA SUBETE THAT IS WARUI IN THE SEKAI. HONTO NI, HAVE ANY OF ANATA EVER GOTTEN ANY NEKO? I MEAN, WATASHI GUESS IT'S TANOSHI MAKING FUN OF HITOS BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN UNKAWAIINESS, BUT MINNA TAKE IT TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL. KORE WA WORSE THAN ONANI-ING TO PICTURES ON HESUBUUKU.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640003
I'm not the one who decided that proof by example wasn't a logical fallacy.

Presumably once you realize that your assertion is retarded you'll fall all over yourself backpedaling out of control.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640004
I made an absolute statement and then provided an example to substantiate on that. Delusion is universal, using Christianity as an example can be applied to any form of delusion

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640006
>I'm not the one who decided that proof by example wasn't a logical fallacy.

You're the one who doesn't realize that a concrete proof invalidates your claim

This is likened to a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640007
The idea that the delusion of literal Christianity with its drawbacks and benefits can be generalized effectively to cover any other delusion that exists is itself an unsupported statement.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

> EVER GOTTEN ANY NEKO
Could not help but laugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640009
No see, you dumb shit, my claim is that somebody else's absolute statement is untrue. This sort of claim cannot be refuted by a single example. You're dumber than a sack of wet mice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639798
>Galileo

You mean the guy the church censured and eventually had buried with the rabble for heresy?

I'm not sure where you're trying to go with your argument here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640014
The fact that Galileo was persecuted by the Catholic Church does not mean that Galileo was not an adherent to the Christian faith.

[Piikachu No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>314 posts and 38 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640010
>The idea that the delusion of literal Christianity with its drawbacks and benefits can be generalized effectively to cover any other delusion that exists is itself an unsupported statement.

no, because it speaks for itself.

>my claim is that somebody else's absolute statement is untrue

And that's wrong, as I provided you with proof.
This is why it's plausible that you're clinically retarded

[Anonymous No.]

Did you know peddling backwards on a bicycle won't produce backwards momentum? It will just repeat over and over without increasing momentum in anyway. If you had a bike as a small child though, you may have noticed peddling backwards was a break. Therefore, bikes have evolved to not accidentally break when you stop peddling forwards. This machine is far too complex to have simply evolved, however, and clearly requires an intelligent designer. The Fundamentalist Christian God is an intelligent designer, and therefore created the universe, proving evolution a lie.
u mad, atheists?

[Anonymous No.]

>no, because it speaks for itself.
All statements speak for themselves. Some do it more effectively than others. This particular statement has no foundation whatsoever.

>And that's wrong, as I provided you with proof.
You cannot prove an absolute statement with a single example. That's a proof by example fallacy. I don't know how you can not realize this and still be intelligent enough not to choke to death on your own drool.

>This is why it's plausible that you're clinically retarded
There's no doubt when it comes to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640032
>All statements speak for themselves. Some do it more effectively than others. This particular statement has no foundation whatsoever.

You think this because you're fantastically uncultured and unusually uninformed. Ask anybody why Christians are delusional and they'll tell you.

>You cannot prove an absolute statement with a single example

Yes I can, because the roots of the delusions of Christianity can be applied to anything that makes you delusional
>There's no doubt when it comes to you.

You essentially said 'no u'

congrats

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640042
>You think this because you're fantastically uncultured and unusually uninformed. Ask anybody why Christians are delusional and they'll tell you.
I was talking about the generalization aspect, you illiterate.

>Yes I can, because the roots of the delusions of Christianity can be applied to anything that makes you delusional
No, you can't, unless you're delusional enough to believe in grade-school logical fallacies yourself.

>You essentially said 'no u'
>implying you haven't been doing the same thing for god knows how long

[Anonymous No.]

Please don't stop arguing
I have to study for finals and this thread is the only thing keeping me awake

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640052
I imagine that there are many of us who are finding this thread useful for that exact reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640048
>I was talking about the generalization aspect, you illiterate.

Simply erase "ask anybody why Christians are delusional and they'll tell you." and the point still stands, as you'll realize

>No, you can't,

yes, you can. Get off of /jp/ and surround yourself amongst people who are above functioning retards, and you'll realize this

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640063
So the only reason I don't believe in the proof by example fallacy is because I'm uncultured or stay away from people who do believe in it? I'll stay away from your cult of complete retardation, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640063
Not the one you're replying to.

Why don't YOU get out of /jp/? Yes I am quite frustrated at your inability to simply get the fuck out. If you really must stay here, grab a tripcode so I can filter you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640069
You don't want to believe in concrete proof because you're stunted intellect does not allow you to. If you went to college you'd realize that this is the proper way to argue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640079
Learn the first thing about logic already, you fucking retard. You claimed that you had proved your general statement by invoking a single example, and claim that anybody who had gone to college would agree that proof by example is valid. There is not a person who knows the first thing about either debate or logic who would agree with this.

The idea that someone out there is actually this fucking stupid is so implausible that I'm tempted to believe that you're a troll who doesn't believe a thing he says, but I guess you can never overestimate people's retardation on the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640086
The fact that you aren't the least bit self aware of you intellect is astounding - I've repeatedly gave you substantive reasons as to why I'm right and you continue to either deviate from them or flat out deny them on baseless terms.

I'm tempted to ask why you want to live another day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640097
>I've repeatedly given you retarded and baseless reasons as to why I'm right and you continue to either deviate from them or flat out deny them because they're self-evidently fucking stupid.
I fixed that for you, troll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640102
This is what retards who aren't self aware actaully believe.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>6639801
Agnosticism is nonbelief too, you idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6640017
>Galileo
>1610
>Implying nonbelief was a viable option