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Okay /jp/ WTF was that ending ?

>> No.6634783

Akane is zero.
The author just left Alice there to fuck with you.

>> No.6634784

>>6634782
˙ʇǝʎ ǝɯɐƃ ǝɥʇ pǝɥsıuıɟ ʇ,uǝʌɐɥ I

>> No.6634798

>>6634783
˙ǝɯɐɓ ǝɥʇ Ʈᴉods ʇ͵uop

>> No.6634800

When do I get to open the safe behind door 5?

>> No.6634807

>>6634800
˙ɓuᴉpuǝ ǝɟɐs ǝɥʇ ʇǝ⅁

>> No.6634809

>>6634783
Nice spoilers bro.

>> No.6634811

>>6634807
ƃuıpuǝ „ǝʌɐs„ sɐʍ ʇı ʇɥƃnoɥʇ I 'ɥO

>> No.6634816

>>6634800
Door 5, 8, 6.

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DAT ELEVATOR TALK

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>> No.6634834
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If everybody died in Yellow Submarine Ending then who killed Jumpei ?

>> No.6634836
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>>6634834
Ace faked his death and then knifed everyone, he's the only one who bothered to steal the knife from 9 in all routes.

>> No.6634837

>>6634834
Are you implying that no one fake their death and everyone is dead?
There is only 1person in the whole game that has the knife and the person the same person that stabbed Clover in safe end.

>> No.6634841

>>6634836
>>6634837
There was also the knife from the kitchen.

>> No.6634843

There was also the revolver.

>> No.6634850

>>6634843
Good luck to stab someone with that.

>> No.6634847

>>6634782
Holy shit OP are you me? I just finished the true end just now too and was about to make this thread. You probably finished the nʞopns puzzle faster than I did as I've never done those before and took me forever.

easymode is no more, so can't see what the past discussions were like (I avoided the spoilers since I didn't finish it back then).

Anyways I have a few questions
In the other bad ends, who exactly is knifing everyone in the knife and sub ends? IIRC everyone gets knifed in the sub end, and in the knife end after junpei gets knifed he sees his assailant and doesn't recognize the person at all
And also
At the end its kind of implied Seven lied about what he told Junpei about the incident 9 years ago, not sure regarding what exactly but I'm guessing its about Akane dieing, but even still, the whole time-traveling morphogenetic field plothole doesn't make sense to me, and I'm thinking loli Akane and present day June/Zero are different people entirely. Can anyone explain this one to me, or how she could have existed in the present day?

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GENTLEMEN BEHOLD ! THE TRUE CULPRIT !
Long time no see, Blink Winkel -san.

>> No.6634869

>>6634836
>>6634837
I might replay it to verify, but I remember in the knife end Junpei didn't recognize who stabbed him as he was dieing, something along the lines of an unfamiliar face, before the end of that route, which would imply that it wasn't Ace, or something ridiculous like him being in a disguise.

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>>6634847
There is only 1timeline.

>> No.6634885

In canon timeline, Akane survived because she saw second nonary game via Junpei's 9 years in the future, complete with all possibilities/ends. That's why Akane/you can only see true end/open the coffin after seeing the password at Safe end.

In this second nonary game, Akane and her brother (with men he hired to renovate building q, kidnap and so on) are Zero. Akane is June and her brother is Santa. They're coconspirator in this game. Their mission: to reenact the nonary game with all its participant, hoping for that one conclusion with Junpei doing the final puzzle, hence sending the answer to Akane in the past.

If they fail, like if Junpei enters [5] or any possibilities not to true route, then June gets feverish (burned), Seven and Santa and everyone's memory are gradually rewritten due to time paradox, where the facts changed into a timeline where Akane died. In the end June disappear, and probably with the universe as well.

>> No.6634887

I'm pretty sure text said that because Junpei was dying, his mind was not able to comprehend, that is why there was no realisation or any feelings towards killer. So IMO it was Ace.

>> No.6634890

The translator is totally a 4channer :
"excuuuuuuuuuuuse me princess", "Captain Obvious", some other stuff I don't remember, and there is a Mary Sue in the credits

>> No.6634898

>>6634890
Neither of those are associated with 4chan.

>> No.6634906

>>6634890
It was tastefully done so it wasn't too rage inducing for me. The puns out every orifice of the game were a little too much.

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>>6634823
As expected from someone that gave us pensex.

>> No.6634919

>>6634906
I liked it.

>> No.6634924

>>6634919
Me too. It makes the reading smooth and less like translation. Too bad the pacing is abysmal due to slow text speed and unwieldy skip.

>> No.6634940

>>6634782
That was Akane/June/Zero dressed as an egyptian chick at the end right ? What a slut.

>> No.6634945

>>6634940
No. The real Alice. The writer said so in interview.

It was classic plot device to shake reader's perception that they have solved every mysteries out there. Also to make the ending goofy/wacky/light-hearted.

>> No.6634952

>>6634885
So basically, in order for Akane in the past to survive the ordeal at all, she had to reenact the nonary game 9 years later to find out the possible ways Junpei would go and figure out the last puzzle? But how could she+santa even build the complex and do the whole game 9 years after the fact that she died? I hate these time-travelling plotholes

>> No.6634958

>>6634945
Link to said interview?

>> No.6634964

>>6634952
>But how could she+santa even build the complex and do the whole game 9 years after the fact that she died?
If she died there won't be June and second nonary game. Hence the canon timeline is the one where she's alive.

Then, in the timeline where Akane survived but with that vision 9 years later: Santa got dough by having stock in Cradle. He renovates building q and uses information gained for Akane's memory of her tapping into the morphological field.

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>>6634924
It reminded me of Dragon Ball Z for some reason.

>> No.6634971

>>6634958
http://wiki.livedoor.jp/nine_nine_nine/

>> No.6634987

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/09/03/999-9-hours-9-persons-9-doors-interview-gets-philosophical-then
-personal/
Oh god I think Morphogenetic Field is real. I was mentioning Second Life lightly in one IRC channel, and then half an hour ago, another person mentioned it at other channel in entirely different server.

For months I never see it mentioned until today, and there isn't much connection between those places/people.

>> No.6635012

>>6634847
OP here, In fact I'm probably you. I've never done sudoku before too. Maybe we got MPD or you received the images of me resolving it via morphogenetic field.
Btw is there any doujins yet ?

>> No.6635061

>>6634964
Thanks, that kind of clears things up. I guess I just need to think of it like Back to the Future-esque concept of people disappearing. Well I really liked this game and it makes me feel silly I haven't played Ever17 yet so I'll probably give that a go. For now I'll go tell all of my friends how great this game is, if I had any ;_;

>> No.6635068

>>6635061
Good luck. You'll need a little bit more patience until the juicy part in Ever17. Until then, GTFO of this board and play the fucking game before someone nasty spoil you like that first post after OP.

>> No.6635084 [DELETED] 

>>6634964
I would assume closed timeline?
Like if you created a time machine, then future you appears and hands you a letter and disappears. You then use the time machine to go back in time to when you created the time machine and hand the letter to yourself then disappear. There's no paradox because the letter only exists in the loop. Asking "Where did the letter come from?" is futile.
So in this world, the loop is that "Akane survived 9 years ago", and if you go through the right doors and save her, then the loop is closed and no paradox exists. If you diverge from the loop, you create a paradox and blah blah.

>> No.6635087

>>6634964
I would assume closed timeline?
Like if you created a time machine, then future you appears and hands you a letter and disappears. You then use the time machine to go back in time to when you created the time machine and hand the letter to yourself then disappear. There's no paradox because the letter only exists in the loop. Asking "Where did the letter come from?" is futile.
So in this world, the loop is that "Akane survived 9 years ago", and if you go through the right doors and save her, then the loop is closed and no paradox exists. If you diverge from the loop, you create a paradox and blah blah.

Figured I'd add spoiler to 2nd paragraph just in case.

>> No.6635092

>>6635087
Yeah.

I like your part about letter, since it gives me new interpretation for specific Remember11 event.

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I was planning on buying this game, but I read every single spoiler in this thread ;__;

>> No.6635104

>>6635097
Now you learned a very precious life lesson.
That's a good trade off.

>> No.6635105

>>6635097
Story of my life

>> No.6635106

>>6635097
Play this game 9years later.
I doubt you can still remember the plot or the charactes name by then.

>> No.6635122

>>6635106
I think that's a good solution. It's like people who spoiled themselves by reading Muv-Luv and CC in wiki when it was popular can still be surprised/impressed when they read the English tl years later.

>> No.6635158

>>6635092
I just reworded one of the ideas about time travel I heard.

I still haven't finished Remember11, not enough time these days.

>> No.6635166

>>6635158
There's nothing to finish. It's the age of infinity.

>> No.6635174

>>6634964
Then why is Santa so emo when he gave you the bookmark if Akane survived on canon?

He has no reason to be depressed. I mean Akane survived after all and they're also rich.

>> No.6635189

>>6635174

He is a siscon.
He is just mad and jelly that Junpei will be getting together with his imouto.

>> No.6635195

>>6634847
At the end its kind of implied Seven lied about what he told Junpei about the incident 9 years ago, not sure regarding what exactly but I'm guessing its about Akane dieing,

No, I think pretty much everything Seven told was true. Junpei said about discrepancy because they didn't see Alice.

>> No.6635205

>>6635174
His lowest point is when you go down to [6] to Knife end, where he's talking like his sister died. Which is truth, not faked, because the paradox is happening.

There's no event like that in safe route.

>>6635195
>Seven lied about what he told Junpei about the incident 9 years ago,
It wasn't a lie if it's truth, which it is in any route not True.

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>> No.6635261

I think Zero could have saved a lot of money if they just kidnapped Junpei, held him hostage and told him to solve that sudoku puzzle in five minutes with a gun to his head or something

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>>6635260
Still need a june_blushing.gif

>> No.6635275

>>6635261
Then he can't relay the entire adventure to the past.

>> No.6635277

>>6635260
>clover3.gif
And the first time I saw >>6635268 it was clover2.gif

Is there some mysterious third clover gif?!

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>>6635268
i could try later i guess, though i want to get clover's stuff first. the jump animation was actually the hardest now that i look at it since it had like 3x more frames than other animations.

also fixed version, i didn't realize i cropped off a little bit of her hair on the left side.

>> No.6635282

>>6635277
nope, clover1 was just clover2 without the blue background and with a single global palette, so it had a flashing disco background and large color loss.

i forgot to rename the files after i deleted it.

>> No.6635353

>>6635268
>Still need a june_blushing.gif
I'll take 20 !

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