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Jobless collegefag here, how do you NEETs make money to fuel your hobbies?

>> No.6495771

Have hobbies that don't require money.

>> No.6495772

or use forex

>> No.6495773

implying i have any money

>> No.6495777

1. Become an alchemist and find a way to turn seman into gold.
2. Download loli
3. Buy cute figures and dolls

>> No.6495779

Another jobless collegefag here, my parents give me $100 a month. It's enough for something decent and some extra food.

>> No.6495783

>>6495761
also a jobless college fag
I don't fuel my neet hobbies
they lie dormant until I get a decent job

>> No.6495791

Pirate everything.

>> No.6495799

inb4, during, and after a /jp/ blogger thread

>> No.6495803

>>6495791
Y-you theif!

>> No.6495817

I'm quite broke, so I'm no help.
I bought and sold computers on Craigslist.
It works, if the market is there.

>> No.6495818

>>6495791
This.

>>6495783
This for things that cannot be pirated.

>> No.6495898

>>6495817
what about building and selling computers as OMEGA GAMING STATION XXX DDR 6 BUZZWORDS at a 100% markup? People love to overpay for things they don't understand.

>> No.6495908

>>6495898
Not when it comes from some neckbeard's basement.

>> No.6495921

Forex Trading.

Don't tell anyone I said this. I love you /jp/.

>> No.6495926

>>6495898
You could sell those white asus netbooks as Macs at a 300% markup
Any shit tier major student at my college would tell you I have a macbook.
Only people who realize white =! macbook are CS guys and most engineering majors.

>> No.6495937

Those /jp/ bloggers make a decent amount.
Not risky like forex and not outside like a job.
But not as much money as either.

>> No.6495942

I pirate everything.

Oddjobs and my parents supply me with funds since I'm in college.

>> No.6495946

>>6495761
Delicious college loans. Shame it means I'll have to actually work after college though.

>> No.6495960

600NL that's how. Poker

>> No.6495965

>>6495779
This. $100 a month goes a long way when you don't spend it on anything unless you have to.

>> No.6495973

>>6495960
Maybe I should learn to play poker.
I'm a beast at spite and malice, but I doubt anyone becides me or people at the senior center play that.

>> No.6495974

>>6495898
No, they don't.
what I did was go to places that would take old equipment, monitors, towers, etc. and buy a bulk load, say $100 for a palette of computer stuff.
Then, get in there, find what's valuable, repair what you can and sell it all on the cheap.

This really only works in high population density places, like big cities.

>> No.6495979

Live at home while attending collage. I mean its not ideal but not having to pay for food, rent, or utilities is really awesome.

>> No.6495980

I pirate EVERYTHING. That fact, coupled with the fact I still live at home and get a decent welfare check every month, makes that I currently have thousands upon thousands of euros in the bank. And I have never worked a single day in my life.

>> No.6495989

>>6495973
>I'm a beast at spite and malice
>posts on /jp/
Oddly fitting...

>> No.6495991

blogging and a little money from odd jobs

>> No.6495994

>>6495989
I feel like im being taunted and I don't understand why. But i'm used to it, carry on.

>> No.6496006

>>6495994
I probably should've quoted "spite and malice" again.
Was making a reference to how most that post here seem to be misanthropes, not anything about those games, as I had no idea they existed.

>> No.6496017

Out of curiosity, is there anyone who will be going to UCSD next fall?

>> No.6496020

>>6495973
Don't bother.
Remember, the house always wins, so the only way to actually make money is to be the house.

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>>6496006
Ah.

>> No.6496024

The government pays me to do nothing.

>> No.6496026

>>6496017
Nope, just give up now.
Apply for welfare, start a blog, and fap all day.
It's just easier.

>> No.6496032

>>6496020
>be the house
>my face when

>> No.6496037

Everyone on /jp/ should make a blog, then we wouldn't have any more people posting on /jp/ like it's their blog.

>> No.6496049

>>6496032
>brick_twobedroom.jpg

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>>6496032
>>6496026
>mfw captcha ate my picture

>> No.6496053

>>6496037
http://jpbloglist.wordpress.com/
already done, didn't help much because the ones blogging are the passerby/newfags

>> No.6496074

>>6496053
my blog is only semi-jp-related because I didn't want to elbow in on someone else's vn blog or anime blog.
But now I realize I could have made a touhou blog.
That'd been quite a bit easier than actually writing stuff.

>> No.6496087

>>6496051
>>6496049
>>6496026
Joke
.
.
.
me

>> No.6496096

>>6496074
>>6496053

Has anybody cashed in on this yet?

I made it to about $30 before I gave up. Nobody was looking at my shit and even then I was only getting 15 cents per ad click.

>> No.6496109

>>6496053
Oh god, I gotta read some of those blogs sometime. They should be deliciously depressing.

>> No.6496123

>>6496096
I was, but I decided not to after I found you had to send in your tax info to Google, and that the money may be taxable by the IRS.

Fucking IRS.

>>6496074

My blog became less a 'entry a day about shit, hope people click ads' and more an actual blog. Not Twitter nonsense, but just random things on my mind. Or game I'm currently addicted to. I should make a dwarf fortress entry.

>> No.6496157

Employed here, sweet deal.

>> No.6496160

I'm going to make an art blog in the future. It won't be in English though so I can't link it to any of you guys.

>> No.6496174

>>6496160
Oh, I see how it is.
You're ashamed of us, aren't you?

>> No.6496175

I'm on SSI, so the government gives me free money.

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suqisu.co.cc
suqisu.co.cc
Ok, so blogger thread then.
It works, just use some site that gives you traffic to keep CTR down.

>> No.6496179

>>6495783
>collegefag
>NEET hobbies
That makes perfect sense.

>> No.6496205

The /jp/ blog IRC gets completely silly. It's usually more fun than the blogging itself.
also,
>>6496175
I wish to be you some day.
Tips for getting on SSI?

>> No.6496231

>>6496205
You need to have been treated before (in my case, for depression and anxiety). Apply for Social Security/SSI on their website and you'll have to fill out a bunch of forms. They'll pay for you to see a psychiatrist and make their decision from there.

>> No.6496249

>>6496231
Does it have to be some mental/emotional condition?
The only thing I've been diagnosed with is eye, kidney, and heart problems. Do those get me a check every month?

>> No.6496263

>>6496249
They might, I'm not sure. If your issues prevent you from working you'll most likely get approved.

>> No.6496270

>>6496205
Where is it?

>>6496123
If you make less than $3,500 a year or so, you do not need to file any income tax.

>> No.6496289

>>6496270
#/jp/blog on rizon.net

>> No.6496305

>>6496270

don't have to file federal, but may still have to file state/local depending on where you live

>> No.6496334

>>6496305
What's wrong with filing taxes?

>> No.6496392

So how would I go about setting up a blog to make some money?

>> No.6496411

>>6496392
See

>>6496289
>>6496053

Get your blog on the blog list and follow other blogs on the blog list. We all read and comment on each other.

The IRC can be a lot more helpful in your start up than just following the blogs, though.

IRC is instant gratification.

>> No.6496429

>>6496175
I've been treated before for depression among a ton of other things. Any tips on how a UKfag would go about getting a similar deal set up?
At the minute I'm leeching £50 a month off my parents and living in a spare room because I can't afford my own place, and see no point in it anyway. I just want free money so I can buy more figurines and stuff without needing to save up for months at a time. Also to get my parents off my back bitching about how I'm just a useless leech.

>> No.6496432

>>6496392
You should know first that not a single person has gotten money out of this shit yet (and by "gotten" I mean actual money and not just number in an adsense account).

Don't bother.

>> No.6496438

Student loans bro....

But then, being in college means I'm not a NEET.

>> No.6496444

Same that you do.

>> No.6496485

I really enjoyed the blogring at first. Not just the making pennies aspect, but there were a lot of really fun and interesting blogs. I kind of lost steam with it though.

>> No.6496497

>>6496432
No one with a legitimate blog has gotten banned.
And there are people expecting their first payout this week.
Not saying google wouldn't ban everyone during payment week for fun's sake, but it unlikely.

Either way. Don't do it for money. Do it for a fun, creative outlet. Everyone started for money, most don't even care about that anymore. It's just fun in general.

>> No.6496511

I wonder how much traffic a blog containing short stories would get.

>> No.6496517

>>6496511
There's filler blogs about youtube videos about shitty touhou songs that have thousands of views.
I would visit your blog every time you posted because it sounds almost interesting.

>> No.6496529

>>6495761 Jobless collegefag here, how do you NEETs make money to fuel your hobbies?

I'm a jobful graduate.

>> No.6496533
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>>6496511
Here's the data for the last year of traffic on my blog (nah, not linking it) which is mostly short stories.

Previous year was a bit better since I was more active then.
Don't use AdSense anyway, don't really have money problems, but I hope this helps you.

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>>6496533
And here is the comparison with 2008 data.
Not really a pageviews whore, data analysis is just my fetish.

>> No.6496553

After I finished college I had to get a job. Working retail no less ;_;

FYI an associate's degree and a couple of certs don't mean shit if you don't have connections.

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>>6496511

I blog about anything that comes to mind, mostly how much I hate going outside and talking to people.

>> No.6496866

>>6496553
Should have just stayed inside.
Happens to the best of em.

>> No.6496896

get benefits from the government for being too fat

>> No.6496903

I've been trying to do the blog thing, but I haven't been able to think of anything to blog about, so I've been sitting at 0 posts for awhile now. I never really have much to say.

>> No.6496924

>>6496903
make a filler post about having nothing to say, then link to a touhou rap remix
gets comments every time

>> No.6496929

>>6496896
Ironically enough, they send you food for this.

>> No.6496935

>>6496896
Where the hell do you live
No, seriously, I wanna know, I'd do that too.

>> No.6496944

>>6496935
Americaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Just kidding, I'm not >>6496896
I'm just a troll

>> No.6496977

I'm the guy that was wanting to make a short story blog. Now that I am actually working on it, I find I don't have a whole lot to write about.

>> No.6496988

>>6496977
Thanks for the update.

You should post that on your twitter, though.

>> No.6496991

>>6496977
Touhou fanfiction that involves men.

>> No.6497034
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>>6495942
>Oddjobs and my parents supply me with funds
>Oddjob
DUDE
Oddjob gives you money?
That's fucking sweet.

>> No.6497042

The /jp/ blogring depressed me. It made me realize my life is empty and boring even amongst NEETs.

>> No.6497052

>>6496988

Ah, yeah, I should've saged that post, sorry.

Anyways, a potential source of money for any of you with long hair is to sell it online. I've yet to sell mine, but it has the potential of netting me a few hundred dollars for being too lazy to get a haircut for two years.

>> No.6497102

>>6497052
what

>> No.6497114

I wish I was a girl, or had little sisters.

I could make a killing selling used underwear.

>> No.6497120

>>6497052
I just realized you type sage with one hand
the more you know.

>> No.6497132

>>6497120
And noko is typed with the other hand.
The more you know.

>> No.6497137

Jobless graduate here. I don't make money.

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>>6497120
>>6497132

>> No.6497149

>>6497120
>>6497132
You remember the night you first discovered to masturbate and how big your smile was?
I feel like that tonight.
The little things always get me.

>> No.6497205

>>6497137
are you also subject to crushing debt?
it seems like that's what most college grads do nowadays
get out and work at McDonald's to take care of debt

>> No.6497209

>>6497205
Why should he worry about debt if he's going to kill himself eventually anyway?

>> No.6497213

>>6497209
why kill yourself when you could kill Lunarians?

>> No.6497259

I'm 18 and I didn't even finish high school. No special talents or superpowers. Ask me about everything.

>> No.6497263

>>6497259
What do you plan to do with your life? Just take it easy?

>> No.6497271

>>6497263
At this moment I try to take it easy and try to survive as long as possible- maybe I'll won a lottery/find Philosopher's Stone/etc. If no, I'll just go out with a style. No plans, nothing.

>> No.6497273

I break free from being a NEET for 2 years.

Feel good to have a job, and my second-pay is right here in my pocket.

I need to buy a fucking labtop.

>> No.6497292

>>6497271
It's funny, you'll notice, that whenever you think you're on the last rung of the ladder, you CAN go lower.

Been takin' it easy for a long time now.

>> No.6497294

Hello. I am an IT/admin type. I'm pretty senior, and I'm being paid 60k, but I could get paid 70-80k if I chose to put the effort into getting some sort of degree. I pay for my computer and the internet, which fuels my hobby just fine. Back in the day I ordered lots of VHS tapes from subbers. I have 200 tape library.

Oh, and please, none of you might feel jealous at my pay grade shouldn't -- very few people, comparatively speaking, have the experience I have so don't worry just be happy.

>> No.6497302

>>6497292
The sooner I realize that, the faster I'll cut that crap. It's not like I have any other options now.

>> No.6497303

>>6497294
>VHS tapes from subbers
Nostalgia-bomb'd

Oh man, the days before broadband...

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>>6497294
I'm fine with just an entry level position, but everyone keeps telling me that I lack social skills/customer skills.

>> No.6497322

>>6497294
>jealous
And this is where you can tell he's making shit up to troll.

>> No.6497337

>>6497309
Just get a job in retail for the customer service experience. Pays not half bad. Especially if you don't consume that much. You'll feel like a king.

>> No.6497345

>>6497302
It's actually pretty comfy all tucked away down here at the bottom of the ladder.
Join me.

>> No.6497355

>>6497345
Well, as long as you have Internet connection, it isn't that bad, eh? What else do you need?

>> No.6497400

>>6497355
Exactly. wi-fi is getting so prevalent and is so pathetically protected that internet is basically free everywhere, I don't even need a home anymore, I could be some hobo playing Touhou in a backalley on a netbook, blowing dudes for heroin money....

Wait, let me rework that....

>> No.6497407

>>6497337
I tried that, but they just never get back to me at all.

>> No.6497425

>>6497309
Soft-skills are easy.

1. SMILE.
2. Project a GOOD ATTITUDE. Positive, confident.
3. If nothing comes to you, ask about the other person or company. ALWAYS WORKS.

That's it! Besides not showing up dressed like a bum, but that's self-evident.

>> No.6497426

>>6497407
pull the race card.

>> No.6497437

>>6497426
I'm a nigger, give me a job?

>> No.6497442

I've learned that one doesn't need doting/dying parents or a job to survive.
Hell, I learned that even money is useless.

CUT YOUR TIES AND JOIN ME

No shitty "customer service" jobs, no "career", no bosses breathing down your neck, no coworkers annoying you, no massive disconnect from what you do as it applies to what the company produces.... Only results now. In hand, guaranteed.

Are you man enough?

>> No.6497450

>>6497442
Are we going to live in the woods?
That sounds wonderful.

>> No.6497454

>>6497442
>CUT YOUR TIES AND JOIN ME
Are you as homeless as I am?

>> No.6497456

>>6497426
Reverse discrimination?

>> No.6497466

>>6497450
No, we aren't throwing the system away, we're slipping between the cracks in it. Becoming the cracks themselves, even.

Tthere's empty housing aplenty on this planet if you know where to look,

>> No.6497476

>>6497466
>empty housing
Sounds illegal, but I'll take it.

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>>6497466
It's dangerous to go alone, take this.

>> No.6497501

>>6497476
Throw away archaic terminology like "illegal" and "no trespassing"! Were fucking the system here, not buying it dinner!

>> No.6497513

>>6497501
I just didn't want to piss anyone off, I can't take it easy if there's cops after me!

>> No.6497521

Why not? Taking it easy is a state of mind. It's possible to take it easy even while running for your life or murdering innocents.

>> No.6497529

Protip: forex IS trolling.
really, dont listen.

>> No.6497534

>>6497513
That's where we slip between the cracks. We aren't violent offenders, so police spend minimal resources on us.
The fact that we are SMALL TIME works in our favor here.

>> No.6497543

I tutor in anatomy & physiology and microbiology at my college. I just got a raise of sorts (15hrs/week to 19hrs/week) because I'm the only tutor they have that's taken those classes.

>> No.6497549

>>6497534
I'll take your word for it. Go on...

>> No.6497563

>>6497480
>book image
>no hidden rar of text
The cover of a book is useless....

>> No.6497578

>>6497549
What do you mean "go on..."?

This isn't a blueprint, it's an outline.

>> No.6497591

>>6496432
The ones that get banned are /b/tards with shitty blogs that are obviously bullshit. Make an actual blog that doesn't copypasta wikipedia articles as blog entries, or just do an image dump/youtube post daily. Also, they run around others blogs with comments like "Cool, check out my blog!" and stuff, obviously not even glancing the title of the post they're commenting on.

In other words, if you make an actual blog, you're fine. If you make a dumb blog like most of the /b/ kids, you get banned.

It's not hard, just make /jp/ related threads on your blog that are too meta for /jp/, like how awesome your new fig is, or how you had a dream you were a loli or something.

>> No.6497596

>>6497563
>Image file contains embedded archive.
damn 4chan

>> No.6497609

>>6497294

I just broke 100k this year, but whatever.

From December 2003 to July 2004 I was unemployed and did nothing but fap, play games, and browse 4chan and moeboard. Those were some of the best, most relaxing days of my life. I wish I could do that again, but I have too many financial responsibilities.

>> No.6497610

>>6497578
Oh, I just thought you were leading somewhere with this, you even had the whole "JOIN ME" bit. Never mind then, carry on.

>> No.6497614

>>6497591
I confirm that. I had a really well-going blog with legit notes and normal comments then I copy-pasta'ed 2 articles (because I really couldn't be arsed to write a legit article that week).

Banned 2 weeks later.

My 100€. ;_;

>> No.6497636

>>6497610
I AM going somewhere with this. Or rather, I DID go somewhere with that.
You got on the bus one stop before terminus though.

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>>6495937
>Those /jp/ bloggers make a decent amount.

Tell me more please. How do I go about becoming a /jp/ blogger?

Maybe link to some?

>> No.6497698

So how much do those blogs actually make?
I write enough siscon bullshit for /a/, enough I could probably make a blog out of it.

>> No.6497719

>>6497698
That would probably violate somebody's TOS.

>> No.6497792

>>6497686
Get in the irc over at #/jp/blog at irc.rizon.net
We'll get you started
and you can join in on our discussions
we're talking about penises.

>> No.6497793

>>6497205
No, I'm not in debt. I'd rather kill myself than live in wage slavery to a horrible organization like McDonalds, by the way.

>> No.6497818

>>6497792
Fucking mibbit isn't working on Rizon.

>> No.6497841

>>6497818
>mibbit
wwwww

>> No.6497933

>>6497841
wwwww

>> No.6497978

>>6497793
>debt
It's fiction anyway. If a bank gives you a loan, just assume it's a grant. Try and get the money back, come on.

>> No.6497989

By not being in college and having a job. I've got a pretty basic job but I still being home about a grand a month.

>> No.6498001

>>6497989
>A grand a month
>basic job

Where the fuck can I get one of these basis jobs?

>> No.6498039

I make my dad give me allowance for cleaning and shopping.

>> No.6498041

>>6497978
I know you're kind of joking but that's actually pretty true.

>> No.6498044

Fellow jobless collegefag here. I get about 2 grand a month in an SSID from the government for autism. That helps.

>> No.6498054

>>6498044
>2 grand
>that helps
Helps? That's a lot of money!

>> No.6498064

>>6497989
A grand of what, USD?

>>6498001
A grand a month, $250 a week, assume 40-hour workweek, that comes out to $6.25, holy shit that's less than minimum wage.

Go flip burgers full-time and you'll make more than that poor soul.

>> No.6498075

i'm 24 and have been living with my girlfriend and looking for a job for almost 2 full years now and can't find shit (crappy area)

i've been thinking about just going down to the closest university with a transcript from the junior college i went to 6 years ago and just seeing what kind of loans and grants i can get

>> No.6498077

>>6498001
I make just over $100 a day after taxes, sitting on my ass watching a database do nothing. I watch anime and play the vidya and program my own games at work, and get paid for it.

Downside: I work the swing shift, which means I'm gone from 2:30 in the afternoon until 10:30 at night, so I don't get to hang out with my friends nearly as often.

>> No.6498085

>>6498075
Yeah, there you go. I've been in your shoes.

>> No.6498121

>>6498064
That's after taxes and insurance.

>> No.6498133

>>6498121
Discard them. Cash up-front is a lovely way to do business

>> No.6498144

I re-sell ebooks for profit and do programming for people over the internet. I'm not really a NEET; but I am a hikikomori.

>> No.6498149

>>6498064
>doesn't know about taxes

>> No.6498174

>I re-sell ebooks
Go on, detail this...I want to know how it works

>> No.6498180

>>6498149
Spare me your snide insinuations, I just assumed this was before he deducted.

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Get on SSI disability. I get a monthly check, well direct deposit...of $1049.

>> No.6498186

>>6498144
I want to know more, too. Are you just downloading free ebooks, "rewriting" them and selling on random scam sites?

>> No.6498211 [DELETED] 

fuck you janitor!
the story continues in greentext

>>6498147

oh hell, i'll greentext it.

> told not to go back to house, unsafe.
> talk to girlfriend, she needs a few things, I want my nans hairloom, a necklace and cross.
> go back to house, girlfriend turns the lights off the car and silent runs into street, I run into the house while she turns the car around
> grab her bag, grab my necklace
> ambushed in house, getting beaten up in my bedroom by gang members
> hear gf scream, panic, push past, fall down the stairs, keep running outside
> someone trying to drag her out of the car,
> run up, grab the guys head, smash it off of door frame, drag away from car, scream for girlfriend to escape
> she wont, but she closes the door and locks it
> two guys from the house rush out
> grabbed by them
> scuffle
> get stabbed
> they run off
> girlfriend drags me into car
> loose a lot of blood in the back seat en route
> coma for 3 months in hospital
> wake up, letter from my brother, £2000 cash and open plane ticket
> letter was to get to his ex girlfriends house in germany, call her to pick me up from frankfurt airport, she would help me recover
> gf safe. DO NOT CONTACT HER. do not contact friends, do not contact outer family, you're putting them in danger if you do.
> do as he says
> in germany for a full year
> everyone back home thinks in dead except for now ex-gf, who has moved on with her life.
> friends track down my brothers, who have re-enlisted into the military
> brother trusts my best friend with my location, tells her to bring me back in 2 months, and gives her £4000 to give to his ex gf for taking care of me.
> 2 months later (so now, around 1 year 6 months after the incident) I return
> plan for revenge begins.

now continue with this thread

>> No.6498230

>>6498144
FUCKING TELL US ALREADY

>> No.6498239

>>6498186
>>6498230
Why would he want to introduce competition?

>> No.6498241

>>6498186
>>6498230
Not the guy, but he probably just has a site he resells other people's books on and gets a commission from it. It's not an uncommon thing.

>> No.6498262

>>6498241
Realized I probably was not clear on this due to my lack of sleep.

You can sign up with certain companies to gain access to a number of products (often lots of different types of ebooks among other things) that you then list on your website. Every time someone buys something after clicking through your website, you get a percentage of the sale.

>> No.6498266

I want SSI disability! I have a diagnosis of major depressive disorder with psychosis or some shit like that... But I go to school. DOes that mean I don't qualify?

>> No.6498303

Instead of thinking up ways to get money, you should be thinking of ways to get rid of it. Beyond the purchase exchange, of course.

>> No.6498315

>>6498303
Unrealistic.

>> No.6498334

>>6498315
How so?

>> No.6498368

>>6498334
Most people's basic survival concerns can be taken care of with a bit of money. Given that a lot of people here are concerned with basic survival, suggesting these same people think of ways to rid themselves of money is unrealistic.

>> No.6498386

>>6498368
You can also achieve survival without any money, you know.

>> No.6498387

>>6498368
People's basic subsistence can come from non-money sources.
Beg borrow or steal.

>> No.6498405

Get the fuck over yourself, Dashiva. When no one fucking cares, no fucking cares.

>> No.6498410

>>6498386
Yeah. Except it is much easier to live with money than to live without it.

>>6498387
Do you believe that because you are comfortable living that way others will be too?

>> No.6498429

>>6498410
>comfortable
They don't have to be comfortable. But they should consider their options closer.

>> No.6498434

>>6498429
You either have a very unrealistic view of the world or only the most basic understanding of human nature.

>> No.6498436

>>6498410
Comfort breeds complacency.

>> No.6498438

>>6498429

You're just butthurt because you're poor and are trying to justify being poor.

>> No.6498441

>>6498438
Being poor doesn't need justification.

Being rich, on the other hand, is a crime against humanity.

>> No.6498444

>>6498436
That isn't the type of comfort I was referring to. The "comfort" was in the decisions made in living each day, not physical or material comforts. In this context, I don't see how internal coherence would result in complacency. It would mean that the person's actions were aligned with their goals.

>> No.6498469

>>6498444
It's not only relevant to material comforts. Never having to make a hard decision only leaves you unprepared for the harshness of reality. Following false rules all the time will leave you crippled when you discover that reality doesn't really have any rules.

I'm not quite saying you should engage in such behavior just for the experience, but to rule it out just because it's unsavory is foolish.

>> No.6498477

>>6498469
I like you.

>> No.6498522

>>6498438
I'm trying to transcend economics here.

>> No.6498529

>>6498469
Maybe I wasn't being clear enough.

When I talk about internal coherence, I am referring to the alignment of duty and action. Duty being what a person feels compelled to do, and action being what a person actually does. Duty will vary between each person since interpretation of right and wrong is at least partly a subjective experience.

Comfort with the alignment of one's duty to one's action is absolutely not complacency. To constantly take action that is aligned with one's beliefs in order to make this alignment possible is constant work.

>> No.6498543

>>6498529
Anyway, that took forever to write because i fell asleep halfway through it. I'm going to bed. If you want to know more, just pick up a book on Bushido

>> No.6498608

Early retirement. $3000 from the government each month. After taxes, electricity, food etc. I guess a fifth of that is left for whatever ┐(´ー`)┌

>> No.6499365

>>6498608
Forex. Start off with 1000 dollars if you get at least 50:1 or 100:1 leverage. Do not trade more than $20000 at the beginning, slowly work your way up to $60000. You can eventually make anywhere from $100-400 a day if you play it right and the market is rolling fine.

>> No.6499406

>>6499365
are you experienced? can I just follow your trades?

>> No.6499408

Be unhappy
Government pays me to be unhappy
Disability for depression
You can also get it for autism

>> No.6499429

>>6499408
Teach me your secrets. I would also liked to be payed for being unhappy.

>> No.6499436

>>6499408
>You can also get it for autism.
It's true. It worked for me.

>> No.6499470

>>6499429
1) Live in first-world country
Whoops, sorry America.

>> No.6499492

I wish I was autistic so I could get paid to play Touhou and masturbate to pettanko all day.

>> No.6499510

i also don't have a job or a source of income, but oddly enough i've discovered... a source, so to speak.

basically i lived in a trailer and knew my time was coming. i looked for jobs within 30 miles of where i lived but couldn't find anything, not even a janitor or anything. i packed my bags and was ready to go back to my grandparent's place

... at that time, I had been struggling with finishing perfect cherry blossom. yukari always messes me right up. about a week before my time would be done, i gave up on finishing the extra stage. she was just too fucking powerful, to the point that i would end up talking to yukari while playing PCB - things like, 'how could you do that to me, you jerk!' and whatnot...

a check showed up in the mail for 600 dollars. apparently i 'fed electric to the grid' and the electric company paid me for it. i looked around my house; i checked everything. i cannot feasably explain how or why that happened; i investigated everything, doublechecked other houses... there was no explanation.

i picked up PCB again. nowadays i can finally defeat yukari in these duels, and i'm not one to be superstitious... but i'm telling you, there's something not right here. ever since that, i've made it a ritual of beating PCB once a day, amongst a couple other small changes to my life, and the checks haven't stopped showing up either.

i do need to get back to my painting...

>> No.6499515

>>6499492
You'd also probably be awful at Touhou, since every autist I know is.

>> No.6499537

>>6499515
I don't care if I became bad at it. I could play it forever and ever and take it so easy I wouldn't know what to do with myself.
Maybe if I give meido a kiss or share a needle I'll catch autism.

>> No.6499598

I don't have a job, I am always broke, but I go to college so:
"ENDURE. IN ENDURING, GROW STRONG"

>> No.6500123

>>6499598
But you won't grow strong
you'll drop out and be were you started + debt

>> No.6500139

>>6500123
Debt is only an illusion anyway. Don't let it wear you down.

>> No.6500528

>>6500139
>Debt is an illusion
How high are you?

>> No.6500541

>>6500528
Stone sober. for now.

When the bank comes to collect that money, and it isn't there, so what?

>> No.6500555

>>6500541
If you live in America you've already signed your life away when you signed up for selective service at the age of 18.

If you owe your life from the get go of adulthood what else can they possibly take from you?

>> No.6500634

>>6500555
If they want your life, they'll have to come and get it.

Besides, selective services drops away after you reach 25.

>> No.6500661

>>6500634
>Besides, selective services drops away after you reach 25.

I didn't know that. Then again no one really told me anything about selective service. I was just handed this little index card after graduation and told that if I didn't fill it out I couldn't go to college and would be put in jail. Also I didn't know that women weren't required to sign up for selective service. That is bullshit on so many levels.

>> No.6500834

I have a job that I hate. Coming home and spending my little free time on 4chan relaxes me a little.

>> No.6500886

This whole money thing is shit. About to move out of my parents' house (transferring to another university) and I find myself suddenly wanting things. After 20 years of getting by with hobbies that required practically no money at all, now that I am finally on the verge of getting a job and a good bit of debt, I want things.

>> No.6500978

>>6500834
I have a job I love. You should try it sometime.

>> No.6501005

>>6500661
>bullshit on so many levels
Protip: IT'S ALL BULLSHIT, ALL THE WAY DOWN.

Fuck the system.

>> No.6501012

>>6501005
But then it might get pregnant, and that would be terrible.

>> No.6501021

>>6500978
Stop acting like it's easy and rubbing it in my face. Good for you. Is that what you want to hear?

>> No.6501026

>>6501012
I'm sterile anyway.

>> No.6501058

>>6501021
Just breathe.
He's slathered in the opiate-like addiction of comfort, he doesn't understand.
Now count to ten.

>> No.6501827

>>6501058
so do you live in the woods or not

>> No.6501830

>>6501827
Me? No. I take housing where I find it.

Sometimes, though.

>> No.6501836

>>6501021
Downside is you find yourself working overtime and enjoying it. Spare time begins disappearing. You find yourself going an entire week without even visiting 4chan. Quite remarkable, really.

>> No.6501850

>>6501836
There you go again.

>> No.6501867

Well, hopefully this thread has put me onto a rewarding new hobby. Started two different blogs last night, working on making my second post on each right now.

>> No.6501885

Forex trading is your key to success. Because there's nothing better than being a severely disadvantaged played in a zero-sum (at best) game.

>> No.6501902

I have my first shift at a new job in a couple of hours. I was NEET and hiki for 8 years. I'm about to shit myself with terror.

>> No.6502006

>>6501902
You can do it anon, stay strong and good luck.

>> No.6502808

Is there anyone who has been approved for SSI disability checks without having previous appointments with doctors/psychiatrist?

>> No.6502851

>>6501902
Oh man, sounds horrible

>> No.6502923

>>6501902
Good luck, Anon!

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6502938

advice: break out of being a NEET. i tell you the 23 yr old neet I am is getting old

>> No.6502971

>>6502938
You make it sound easy. I've been trying to get a job for the past 5-6 months and no luck.

>> No.6503067

>>6502971
I know how that goes. 6 months here.

>> No.6504327

>>6502923
>>6502006

Thanks. I-its not like I was really happy and felt nice to have your support or anything ;____;..!

It actually went pretty well, surprisingly. I'm now the friendly neckbeard, long haired, 2D worshipping greengrocer, just down the road.

>> No.6504366

My country allows me to sit on welfare eternally because of scoliosis.

>> No.6504390

Goddamn I had to work a double shift today because someone called off. Dropping out of college was a mistake.

>> No.6504410

Welfare.

WELFARE WELFARE WELFARE.

Welfare checks OP.

>> No.6504444

University in Denmark.
$1000/month from the government.
Education is free.
Rent is $370.

>> No.6504448

>>6504444
Why couldn't I be born in a civilized country?

>> No.6504469

>>6504444
Fuck, that's just unfair.

>> No.6504470

>>6504448
God hates you, anon.

>> No.6504480

>>6504448
Think it it this way: loli is the same as CP in Scandinavia, and its possession is an actual, defined crime.

>> No.6504501

>>6504480
Think about it this way:
No one gives a shit in Denmark.

I'll collect that loli, and the police won't be able to touch me.
Sure the politicians have debated drawn porn depicting minors and shit, but then again; freedom of press, thought, and speech is something we actually value over here.

Remember those drawings about that prophet?
Video games with highly realistic killing will be illegal long before anything that's drawn on paper.

>> No.6504507

>>6504444
Fucking communists, what are your taxes like?

>> No.6504513

>>6504480
I thought that was only in one country.

>> No.6504521

>>6504507
Typical jealous brainwashed amerifag.

Leeching the most we can from normalfags = awesome.

>> No.6504530

>>6504507
About 40-60% depending on how much you earn above $8,000, I think..

Not that I really care all that much.
I get $1000/month, and after taxes there's about $850 left. I still don't have to work unless I feel like I need to buy extraordinarily expensive stuff.

It's true, however, that if I wanted to import more stuff from Japan than I already do, I'd have to work.
Shit's expensive, yo.

But living is generally more expensive here than anywhere else in the world.
I live in the capital Copenhagen, and I think the prices are comparable to those in Tokyo on most things that aren't housing.
Food is cheaper in Tokyo, though.

>> No.6504532

>'s-Hertogenbosch, 30 maart 2010 - Een 35-jarige man uit Valkenswaard is veroordeeld tot een werkstraf van 120 uren voor het bezit van kinderporno. De rechtbank ’s-Hertogenbosch vindt andere afbeeldingen met figuren, waarvan voor de gemiddelde kijker onmiddellijk duidelijk is dat ze niet echt zijn, geen strafbare kinderporno.
>Tijdens de zitting heeft de rechtbank de afbeeldingen achter gesloten deuren bekeken. De afbeeldingen zijn helemaal kunstmatig op de computer gemaakt en er zijn geen echte kinderen op te zien. De rechtbank vindt de virtuele afbeeldingen geen kinderporno in de zin van de strafwet.
Fuck yes, feels good to live in the best country on Earth.

>> No.6504538

>>6504513
I think the guy is talking out his ass.
As far as I remember it's in Sweden where a man was charged with possession of actual 3D CP, but his sentence was increased because he also had vast amounts of 2D loli.

>> No.6504545

>>6504532
Something about childporn. Would you be so kind to translate the gist of it?

Also, is that Dutch? Just to make sure.

>> No.6504548

>>6504532
To clarify: the Dutch court seems to have recently (March of this year) ruled that drawings are not CP.

Is this now the first western country where a court has actually established these images are officially not illegal?

>> No.6504550

>>6504532
I'm your southern neighbour. I wonder how it would be dealt with here. I think this country isn't going to react nicely to this kind of thing because of Dutroux.

>> No.6504555

>>6504532
Holland is a shithole, and the only tourism you get is because of your coffee shops' capability of attracting potheads from across the world.

I heard your politicians want to only allow resident Dutchmen with registration card into those places?

>> No.6504561

I want to have a job, seriously, or at least finish the college
but, if I walk for like 3~4 minutes, my ankle/calf starts to hurt so fucking much and I don't know why, plus, my parents/family are not going to help me because I wasn't planned, i still don't know why/how I reached the age of 22

>> No.6504563

>>6504548
Really?!

A western country with actual logical thinking, not ruled by the millenniums of Abrahamic religion's morals which have influenced our thinking and culture? How can that be true?

>> No.6504564

>>6504555
>I heard your politicians want to only allow resident Dutchmen with registration card into those places?
That's on the border and it's already happened, because of Belgians and Germans causing trouble.

>Holland is a shithole, and the only tourism you get is because of your coffee shops' capability of attracting potheads from across the world.
Lolno, their beaches attract German tourists, and Amsterdam is a popular tourist spot, not just for drugs.

>> No.6504568

>>6504563
I bet it's still illegal, you just get a shorter sentence for it.

>> No.6504570

>>6504568
It's not illegal under anti-cp law, but he got a light sentence because it was obscene shit.

>> No.6504576

>>6504568
Well, he got a sentence, but the original article the text comes from makes it sound like that was for the possession of actual CP, aside the drawings he had.

The headline reads "Acquittal for virtual child pornography" so I'm going with that fact being true. But the article is a little unclear.

>> No.6504577

I now have to learn Dutch (or Danish) and get out of this shithole.

>> No.6504585

>>6504577
What's your shithole?
Also Denmark is VERY HARD to immigrate to, and Holland is about to GET VERY HARD to immigrate to.

>> No.6504587

>>6504564
>That's on the border and it's already happened, because of Belgians and Germans causing trouble.
I thought they also wanted to implement this in places like Amsterdam, but I haven't heard any recent developments on this subject (or rather, I haven't been keeping up with them).

>> No.6504592

>>6504585
Predominantly Catholic country is all you need to know, really.

>> No.6504595

>>6504592
Poland? It's /jp/, so it's got to be Poland.

>> No.6504597

>>6504577
Danish is pretty hard to learn, but if you dedicate yourself to it, I'm sure it's possible.

We do have some ridiculous immigration laws, though, so you might want to check up on those.
I think they're meant to keep the hordes of Muslims at bay, but of course this shits on everyone else as well.

If I should ever get married with someone from Japan, I'd better make sure she's graduated from university and is proficient in Danish language as well as cultural/historical knowledge before having her come from Japan to live here.

I think I'd rather be looked down upon as disgusting foreigner in Japan than having her experience the immigration system here.

>> No.6504606

>>6504597
Wait a second, if he's Polish like I think he is, can't he just use EU magic?

>> No.6504610

>>6504585
>Holland is about to GET VERY HARD to immigrate to.
Even though in my opinion (and shared by a lot of people) we allow too many foreigners in already, I do seem to remember that we are the European country where it is most difficult to immigrate to.

I don't mind immigrants, but they should be given the same requirements as they do in Japan: learn the language, have a job and adept to our culture (you don't have to start celebrating Christian holidays or any stupid shit, but I don't want to see fucking nicabs when I'm walking down the street). And don't be a criminal piece of shit. But even these requirements are already too hard for 99% of them.

>> No.6504612

>>6504530
>About 40-60% depending on how much you earn above $8,000, I think..
What the hell? Those taxes are fucked up crazy.

>> No.6504613

>>6504597
>>I think I'd rather be looked down upon as disgusting foreigner in Japan than having her experience the immigration system here.

Is it really that bad?

Also, racism is Japan is overrated. Sure, they're xenophobic fucks, but they're quiet about it because of their culture (tatemae, meiwaku, etc).

>> No.6504622

>>6504612
Not for us disabled people. For us they good.

>> No.6504626

>>6504613
But it means you will never have real friends in Japan!

...Same as now then, really.

>> No.6504635

>>6504610
I think Denmark is harder than Holland, but I don't know all that much about Holland.

I don't like immigrants from the Middle East and Eastern Europe because all they seem to do is cause trouble for the welfare system or outright commit crimes such as stealing shit or dealing drugs.

I avoid groups of people from the Middle East on the street if I have to go outside, especially at night.
I'd rather have them go back to wherever they came from.
The Eastern European people aren't as bad, but they seem to do more break-in robberies or economic scams in general which hurt people directly.
The Middle Eastern people abuse our system in a more brutal way than a guy like me.

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>Norway
>As of 2005, the Norwegian penal act criminalizes any depictions that 'sexualize' children, even if it does not actually show sexual acts with children.[16] This would include, for example, an adult model with childish clothes/toys/surroundings.

>> No.6504641

This is more /lit/ type material, but I think a lot of you fellows would really appreciate this. He is by far the best author of our generation. It is a real shame he chose to kill himself, but, I think who he was would resonate with /jp/ to some extent. It is probably the most appropriate thread out of any to post it in also.

http://moreintelligentlife.com/story/david-foster-wallace-in-his-own-words

>> No.6504647

>>6504635
This is hilarious.
Someone living on welfare and spending his life in front of his computer rags on immigrants for abusing the welfare system.

Priceless.

>> No.6504650

>>6504538
Nope, I'm not taking out of my ass.

Look it up in Wikipedia.

2D loli, the loli we love, lolicon material from Japan is explicitly banned and a crime in most of Scandinavia. Is it clear enough now?

>> No.6504653

>>6504647
Well, he makes a point.

Even abusers know that the tree needs to be replenished and you don't take all the apples at the same hour or you'll end up with rotten crap on your table and you'll starve the entire year.

>> No.6504665

>>6504647
True, but he actually has mental/social problems (even though many people here won't admit they do) which make it impossible for him to find work. For the Muslims, it's just because they refused to learn the language. Up to the THIRD GENERATION.

If people have actual problems then they should be entitled to welfare.

>> No.6504671

>>6504613
I went there for a month this summer, and while people I spoke to were mostly positive towards me since I spoke some Japanese, they weren't exactly trying to get to sit next to me on the subway (moving away from me when a seat became vacant and such).
At least I'm not ugly, so I'm sure some people could be treated worse than me.

It's not worse than in Denmark (hell, I avoid "foreign looking" people as well).
Even so, I'm still up for a chat if I'm approached by, say, an average looking Canadian tourist or something wanting to know how to get from here to there.
As long as they speak a language I understand, it's good.
The Japanese people I talked to liked my easily understandable Japanese, and most of them seemed to enjoy the fairly long conversations about Denmark and defending old Japanese castles. Of course there was a difference in how much talking I did on the various subjects, and I'm sure I could've found less talkative people who would be annoyed with me if I tried.

Talking to some random guys at Comiket was fun, though.

>> No.6504685

>>6504671
You should visit China once. Everyone's going to be all over you, and the police turn a blind eye on whites.

>> No.6504695

>>6504685
>China
>Less racist than Japan

AHAHAHA

>> No.6504702

>>6504665
My so-called "mental/social problems" aren't as bad as you want them to be, I think.

Surely all the tests on the internet which says I'm INTJ and have an IQ of 140 can't be all made up, but I'm not depressed or suffering from extreme social phobias or whatever you call it.
Me being jobless is probably because I'd rather spend my time on my studies and the internet seeing as I'm perfectly able to do it as long as I'm a student.

The thing I have a problem with is the niggers coming flying in only to apply for welfare while working in their uncle's kebab shop and roll around in 4x4s.

I ride my bike and cut my spendings so I can just get the stuff I need to stay alive.
I don't have a TV. That's not because I can't just take money out of my (somewhat decent) savings, though, I just choose not to because I don't feel like I should be spending money on such things.

>> No.6504705

>>6504671
>(moving away from me when a seat became vacant and such).

One thing I've noticed since coming here is that Japanese people will often do this to each other. They just really seem to prefer to sit on the edge. I'm sure that being a foreigner makes you less desirable to sit next to, but that's not the only reason.

>> No.6504722

>>6504705
I noticed that too, actually.
I guess that's part of what I meant with the "not worse than Denmark".

At least I would rather choose to sit on a completely empty seat with no one across from me than sit down next to someone.
I much prefer my bike to public transport.

I stand up most of the time on short rides when I go alone.
I did that in Japan out of habit to start with as well, but the train rides across town were much longer there (about 30-40 minutes), so I quickly learned to avoid rush hour and take it easy on the trains.

>> No.6504723

>>6504695
Usually they're just racist towards other Asians. Whites bring in money.

>> No.6504724

>>6504532
Not only did drawings not count as CP or even virtual CP. The guy was only convicted to 160 of labour for having real CP.

Virtual CP is only a problem in Holland if you can't immediately recognize that it isn't a real child. So I should be quite save with big-eyed animu drawings.

>> No.6504736

>>6504724
Why are the Dutch such pedophiles?

>> No.6504751

>>6504736
They're civilized human beings. I know that's too complicated for your primitive mind. Who would think 15 year prison sentences defined by Victorian-era morals, where young men get killed in jail maybe are a bit too much and just rehabilitation is needed? As long as no real children has been harmed, there is no logical reason to send someone to either die or spend 15 years in jail. You can simply rehabilitate the person and effectively transform him into a productive member of society. In the case of reincidence, alternate measures would be taken.

>> No.6504828

>>6504724
I still wouldn't be shouting from the rooftops that you possess it, though. The moral conviction from neighbours/friends/etc. is very real, in Holland too.

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