When will lolicon finally become a crime?

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Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:15:54 2010 No.6293585 [Reply] [Original]

When will lolicon finally become a crime?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:16:54 2010 No.6293592 When Kimmo finally axes AT like he keeps threatening he will

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:16:54 2010 No.6293594 When reported... Woah, wait... that's not what I meant.. Oh fuck it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:16:54 2010 No.6293597 Hopefully never. Thought crimes are bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:17:54 2010 No.6293601 They'll get what they deserve once they reach God's Kingdom

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:17:54 2010 No.6293603 >>6293597 I agree. But thought crimes are becoming more and more common these days.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:17:54 2010 No.6293604 AGNESSSSS

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:18:54 2010 No.6293612 Is the FBI even interested in CP these days? I reported CP to the FBI once, because it was egregious, and as far as I can tell, nothing has ever been done about it to this day, even though I received a confirmation on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:19:54 2010 No.6293614 File: 24 KB, 336x450, BORS170~Elvis-Presley-Laughing-Posters.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6293601 >God's Kingdom

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:19:54 2010 No.6293617 >>6293592 I've completely forgot about him till now. I wonder if he will start hiring people to manually spam 4chan

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:20:54 2010 No.6293618 Never, and it will be socially accepted in the future, like homosexuality is now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:20:54 2010 No.6293620 >>6293612 It depends. If you vote democrat nothing is going to happen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:20:54 2010 No.6293622 http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13322190 Yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:21:54 2010 No.6293624 >>6293612 I think they are only after people who use file sharing programs to get CP

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:21:54 2010 No.6293627 >>6293622 >Thirty-3-year-old wut?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:23:54 2010 No.6293633 Never because it does no harm to any person or organization, nor is it a danger to society in any way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:24:54 2010 No.6293637 >>6293624 Are they even watching those competently? I've never heard about any arrests.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:24:54 2010 No.6293638

In good countries it already is. In backwards US, people are still protecting freedom of speech without limits, just like they protect their right to own dangerous weapons, they protect their right to have dangerous people out on the streets... until there is a cure for pedophilia that every pedophile can be forced to take, they should be jailed. Maybe even in a special jail exclusively for them and worked with to see if a cure can be developed...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:26:54 2010 No.6293641 >>6293637 Remember that video posted here in /jp/ last year about a guy going to jail because he accidentally downloaded CP using Limeware?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:28:54 2010 No.6293648 >>6293641 But there's got to be thousands of morons using P2P for CP. I just don't know how they would get them all. The only arrests I ever see are huge distributors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:28:54 2010 No.6293649 >>6293638 Shit man, you'd ruin the catholic church if you did that!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:29:54 2010 No.6293651 >>6293633 Think of the children

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:30:54 2010 No.6293655 >>6293638 I'd say the other countries are backwards. Being arrested for having sex with kids is one thing, being arrested for the POTENTIAL to have sex with kids is another.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:31:54 2010 No.6293657 >>6293638 >until there is a cure for homosexuality that every gay can be forced to take, they should be jailed. Maybe even in a special jail exclusively for them and worked with to see if a cure can be developed...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:31:54 2010 No.6293659 >>6293655 Yeah... then you have to wait for a kid to be hurt until you do something, good thinking...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:31:54 2010 No.6293663 >>6293638 Developing a cure will require all sorts of rigorous and authentic testing, of course..

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:31:54 2010 No.6293664 I shot some guy in a video game once. Am I a murderer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:32:54 2010 No.6293669 >>6293657 Not the same thing, gay people can normally have sexual relations without harming children, but when your sexuality is preying on children then there is a problem..

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:32:54 2010 No.6293671 >>6293659 It's just as bad as yours, friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:33:54 2010 No.6293674 >>6293664 You didn't get sexual pleasure from killing him... you aren't warped so your only sexual pleasure comes from killing him like pedophiles get from children. They are just ticking time bombs..

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:33:54 2010 No.6293675 >>6293638 >implying being attracted to young girls is a mental illness and not an evolutionary trait

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:34:54 2010 No.6293680 >>6293655 Not even potential, because this can't be measured. Fact is, the guy is fapping to a cartoon. Isolating this kind of material and even banning from public places is fine, but criminalizing is nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:34:54 2010 No.6293682 >>6293675 Lots of things we call illnesses are evolutionary traits... they are not exclusive. When it is a trait that is harmful and goes against what sexual preference should be then it can be called an illness

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:35:54 2010 No.6293689 >>6293680 Then people who are found using lolicon like that should be arrested temporarily and tested... if that doesn't extend to real children then that is fine but otherwise they should be kept in jail.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:36:54 2010 No.6293692 Justify jailing someone for seeing a drawing.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:37:54 2010 No.6293698

>>6293669

Oh give me a break....Do you consider a child abuser with a wife and kids of his own to be a pedo? Your answer will dictate whether or not your logic is sound.

Also, I guess it could be argued that simply having gay people in the community does harm to children. Just ask any hardcore religious nutter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:37:54 2010 No.6293699 >>6293674 >sexual sexual sexual We aren't talking about sex. I play shooters and love shooting people in them. Answer my question. Should I be arrested for potential murder? What about the tens of thousands of other people like me?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:38:54 2010 No.6293705 >>6293698 >Do you consider a child abuser with a wife and kids of his own to be a pedo Of course I do... unless by child abuser you mean just physical not sexual abuse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:41:54 2010 No.6293720 >>6293699 Depends on whether that desire extents to wanting to kill people in real life... if you look at someone and think about how much you would like to kill them then there is a problem... same thing with pedophiles looking at children

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:42:54 2010 No.6293724 I fap to loli futa femdom. Am I at risk of having little girls jam their gigantic penises in my asshole?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:43:54 2010 No.6293730 >>6293689 Arrested for what? Fapping? That's preposterous.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:44:54 2010 No.6293733 having sex w/children owns

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:44:54 2010 No.6293735 >>6293730 For being a danger to society

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:45:54 2010 No.6293738 >>6293730 People already get arrested to fapping to CP, how is that preposterous?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:45:54 2010 No.6293742 >>6293724 This is a perfectly logical rebuttal, actually.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:45:54 2010 No.6293743 >>6293720 All right then. I am a lolicon. I fap to fake, cartoon little girls. This does not spread to real life; I do not fap to or want to have sex with real children. Should I be arrested for pedophilia?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:46:54 2010 No.6293753 >>6293735 Then every citizen should be in jail because everyone at some degree represents a risk to the society.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:46:54 2010 No.6293755 >>6293735 You could go outside RIGHT NOW and hurt someone. You should be arrested for being a danger to society.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:47:54 2010 No.6293756 On a side note, is now a good time to begin the purge, wipe hard drives, and encrypt everything in anticipation of the Republicans winning back Congress? I have a feeling the internet is about to become hell.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:47:54 2010 No.6293759

>>6293743
You should be arrested for suspected pedophilia and if what you say is true after testing then you can be let go, maybe monitored to make sure it stays that way... but I think its better to ban lolicon outright because people who need to get off to it are obviously going to be led down the wrong road... if they are not sick they should be able to get by without it

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:48:54 2010 No.6293760 >>6293756 It will be ok, anonymous. Just keep your nose clean.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:49:54 2010 No.6293763 trooooollan

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:49:54 2010 No.6293764

>>6293755
I don't have a sexuality that is only fulfilled by hurting people. That is the difference... sexuality is an essential part of human life, I can normally fulfil my sexuality but a pedophile can only do it by molesting a child... and he will want to molest a child because of how important sexuality is...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:49:54 2010 No.6293765 >>6293638 thats like finding a cure for being gay

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:49:54 2010 No.6293768 >>6293759 Predictable. How can you not see how skewed your logic is?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:51:54 2010 No.6293776 We should ban furry porn because it obviously translates to real life beastiality. Somebody please think of the animals!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:51:54 2010 No.6293780 >>6293760 I'm afraid given my track record, that's highly unlikely. I think going dark is the safest thing to do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:53:54 2010 No.6293787 >>6293765 It's really not, although I'm sure you're convinced that it is, and who am I to question your ways. I'm sure though that some people would want that developed too.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:53:54 2010 No.6293790

>Sexual Attraction
>OK
>Attracted to men
>OK
>Attracted to women
>OK
>Attracted to short women
>OK
>Attracted to short, flat women
>OK
>Attracted to short, flat women under an arbitrary age that varies greatly from culture to culture
>OH GOD THESE PEOPLE ARE THE SCUM OF SOCIETY FUCKING PEDOS SHOULD ALL DIE OH MY GOD LOCK THESE SICKOS UP

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:53:54 2010 No.6293792

>>293768
It may not be the perfect logic but the bottom line is if you saw otherwise you are letting ticking time bombs just tick away until they explode, then cleaning up the mess.. it's better to take them away to a safe location where they can't hurt anyone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:55:54 2010 No.6293802 >>6293776 I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet, considering all those animal activists

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:55:54 2010 No.6293806 >>6293792 Yeah, that's fine, but what about the innocent, harmless people locked up because they MIGHT be time bombs?

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:55:54 2010 No.6293808

>>6293790
The age of consent has to be arbitrary and set at a level that seems unfair. Do you think it's okay for a 2 year old to have sex if he says he wants to? Of course not... a 4 year old? Of course not... 8 year old? Of course not.. maybe at 12 years old you will start questioning it but they are still not adults and there are some less developed mentally than others, they are still not going to be able to think about it like an adult does... the same goes even at 15... 18 is a good age because it's around the time people stop growing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:56:54 2010 No.6293809 These threads are fucking ridiculous. So much cock waving and soap box standing.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:56:54 2010 No.6293813

I really feel sorry for people who are judged on thought crimes, As long as you just stay away for people and go your own way without breaking the law, you should be fine. Its too bad there are ass holes in this world who like too step on the unnormal and the weak. I am not into loli or cp but I feel for you guys and I pity you. you guys are living in what the gays had too live in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:56:54 2010 No.6293817 >>6293806 if they are pedophiles they are not harmless. You are trusting him to be a virgin all his life, I wouldn't trust even a celibate priest with that...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:56:54 2010 No.6293820 Murderers in jail are actually treated better than sex offenders. Shows you the kind of society we live in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:57:54 2010 No.6293822 >>6293817 But they aren't pedophiles, they are lolicons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:58:54 2010 No.6293829 >>6293809 Bored pedo devil's advocate trolling, and bored pedos working out their arguments against it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 00:58:54 2010 No.6293830

>>6293820
Well murder can be understood better, it's still terrible, but we all get angry and maybe get into fights and maybe injure and get injured, a murderer just took it too far. But then a pedophile had to rape a child, how can you justify that as what a normal person driven to the limits might do... the same thing goes for rape except pedophilia is even worse since it's not only forcing that but doing it to a child...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:00:54 2010 No.6293836 File: 94 KB, 522x642, 1226198984127.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw downloading a file online is more heavily criminalized than going out stabbing a random innocent person to death.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:00:54 2010 No.6293838 pedos should just move too japan, there problem solved

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:01:54 2010 No.6293842 >>6293742 Dickgirls don't really exist, so you should be fine, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:01:54 2010 No.6293844 >>6293738 Not in Japan.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:01:54 2010 No.6293845

>>6293822
In japan a lolicon is a pedophile except they are only attracted to girls... I don't really believe the story of only being attracted to pictures, people who are attracted to pictures of grown women in the first place are because they resemble real women to their brains... the same goes with lolicon and children.. they may be 'innocent' but their very existence is something that harms people... like if someone had no brain but went around rampaging killing people, you couldn't say that person was evil but they need to be stopped nonethless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:02:54 2010 No.6293851 >>6293836 Which means if you're ever accused of downloading CP, you should go out when on bail and kill as many people as you can find, to balance out the difference between what you're going to be punished with and what you've actually done.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:02:54 2010 No.6293854

>>6293637

For this case
>>6293622
they've found this guy by...
> In December 2008, the German Federal Police began investigating the distribution of a known child pornography file on peer-to-peer file sharing networks. They asked for the assistance of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) to determine the identity of users in the United States who had offered to share the file.

>According to the plea agreement, Kutzner’s IP address was identified as offering the file for download on October 4 and 5, 2008.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/id/public_info/pr10/oct/kutzner10132010.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:03:54 2010 No.6293863 >>6293845 so if you dreamed you had sex, you know what sex feels like?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:03:54 2010 No.6293864 >>6293851 The maximum sentencing for child pornography is huge, but the average sentence is much shorter than a murderer. A judge doesn't look at a guy with a clean record who fapped to a couple of CP pics and decide he's going away for 20 years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:03:54 2010 No.6293867 >>6293845 Or someone with no brain who trolls imageboards with slippery slope arguments?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:04:54 2010 No.6293868 >>6293854 That's one guy out of, what, thousands of habitual and more casual sharers? Are they sitting on every torrent?

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:04:54 2010 No.6293870

>>6293768
here. No, we're not done yet.

"I like shooting fictional people in video games. I would never do so in real life, though. Will I be arrested?"
>No.

"I like watching fictional children have sex. I would never do so in real life, though. Will I be arrested?"
>Yes.

You can not honestly be saying that there's nothing wrong with this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:05:54 2010 No.6293879 >>6293622 10 years for naked drawings on Simpson characters Oh my lol fuck. I have no words. No one can really be this stupid.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:06:54 2010 No.6293886

>>6293863
I don't see how this is relevant.
>>6293870
As I said the difference is the sexual aspect. If someone is a pedophile who you say is harmless, then what you are saying is that he will contain himself and always be a virgin, sounds too good to be true. He will snap sooner or later. On the other hand you can easily trust someone to not be a murderer. Most people get through their lives without murdering. How many people get through a full life without sex...?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:06:54 2010 No.6293888 >>6293692 >Justify jailing someone for seeing a drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:07:54 2010 No.6293889 >>6293622 Pleaded guilty, not a legal precedent. Lolicon material is still literally legal and illegal in the US.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:07:54 2010 No.6293892 >>6293886 well your on /jp/ son.... so I think alot

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:09:54 2010 No.6293900 >>6293886 Most pedophiles get through their lives without raping. You have absolutely no proof otherwise, Baaaaaattleeeeer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:09:54 2010 No.6293904 >>6293886 >sexual What's your take on guro then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:10:54 2010 No.6293910 Also, what's the defined laws regarding CP? If they can't prove possession, then what does accessing mean? I've heard stories of them trying to send people to jail without even finding anything on their computers, but you never know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:10:54 2010 No.6293912 >>6293904 It's fine.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:11:54 2010 No.6293920

wouldnt all of japan and everyone on /a/ go too jail ? they better start building more jails.. Also guys I think your forgetting things might change for the best , most of the government will be us sooner or later, that means no more religion and shit morals

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:12:54 2010 No.6293925 >>6293886 You are very naive if you think it's impossible to go through life without sex. You also assume that a pedophile would ONLY have sex with children. You ALSO assume that lolicons are interested in real children...and, well, they aren't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:12:54 2010 No.6293930 >>6293900 Pedophilia is something that needs to be justified... if pedophiles want to claim this then they will have to show proof. I can't take someone who says they will remain a harmless virgin for their whole lives seriously,

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:12:54 2010 No.6293932 >>6293912 You have got to be kidding me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:12:54 2010 No.6293933 >>6293889 they sentenced him for "Possession of Obscene Visual Representations of the Sexual Abuse of Children" he would be guilty either way, the court simply gave him a chance to plead while he still can

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:13:54 2010 No.6293936 >>6293925 Well if they are attracted to other things then they shouldn't mind lolicon being illegal then... there are people who only are sexually attracted to children and thats who you need to keep an eye on..

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:13:54 2010 No.6293937 >>6293933 Yes, but he doesn't set a legal precedent, like I said.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:14:54 2010 No.6293945 >>6293936 Hey, people who like eating beef as well as pork shouldn't mind if pork became illegal to make/distribute/consume. After all, if he has other things to satisfy him, why would he care if pork disappears forever from the market (hahahaha)?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:15:54 2010 No.6293946 >>6293936 Yes, I agree, absolutely, pedophiles should be locked up. But lolicons are not pedophiles.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:15:54 2010 No.6293948

>>6293932
As long as the characters are not children I see no problem, someone might have a fetish for that but that will just be a small fraction of their sexuality. Say a homosexual who likes rape fantasy, he can have that fantasy but he can still have sex normally without comitting a crime, a pedophile can't

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:15:54 2010 No.6293950 >>6293930 Can you get through your life without raping anyone?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:16:54 2010 No.6293955 >>6293933 If you plead guilty, then you don't get an appeal. If it had gone to appeal, he would've won. Never plead guilty. Ever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:16:54 2010 No.6293956 >>6293930 why are you on /jp/... first of all once you hit 30-50, sex doesn't even matter anymore

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:16:54 2010 No.6293960 >>6293946 People should not be treated as criminals unless they have committed a crime. Further, once they have served their sentence, they should be treated as if they had not committed the crime by society as a whole, Megan be damned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:17:54 2010 No.6293963 File: 426 KB, 1600x1200, 1286496128764.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You are now a criminal guilty of a felony for having this image in your thumbnail cache. Now justify this reasoning.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:17:54 2010 No.6293966 Should all Muslims be locked away?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:18:54 2010 No.6293968 >>6293963 I'm fucked

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:20:54 2010 No.6293983

>>6293955
>they sentenced him for "Possession of Obscene Visual Representations of the Sexual Abuse of Children"

They've found 70 animated (cartoon) pornographic images of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct

They've found that Kutzner’s IP address was identified as offering the file for download on October 4 and 5, 2008.

Try to get out of this checkmate

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:20:54 2010 No.6293984 >>6293963 Accidental viewing is not a crime. You would be able to defend against that... first of all it would be unlikely anyone would ever find out that was on your thumbnail cache, you don't go searching for it on the internet or posting it

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:20:54 2010 No.6293987 And now you wish you were born in the Greek ages, when anything was fuckable, and fucking men wasn't considered gay, you just had too wacth out for those Persians..

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:21:54 2010 No.6293992 >>6293948 You have GOT to be kidding me. I get off to guro and only guro. Should I be arrested?

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:21:54 2010 No.6293993

>>6293983
The law itself is almost certainly unconstitutional. It's probably never gone to actual conviction, before, barring a plead agreement, which doesn't allow for appeals based on the trial barring evidence of malfeasance on the part of the courts/prosecutors/police.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:22:54 2010 No.6293994

>>6293983
>70.
Jesus christ. Why do these guys always get caught with such small amounts? I don't know about you guys, but I must at least have 10,000 explicit loli images, counting doujins and pictures. It's probably way over that.

What the fuck would they do to me?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:22:54 2010 No.6293996 >>6293992 Definitely... but I doubt there is someone like that and it's hard to measure unlike lolicon...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:23:54 2010 No.6294000 >>6293987 The age of consent was 10 through most the states until the 20s or so, by the by.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:23:54 2010 No.6294005 >>6293983 >Kutzner’s IP address was identified as offering the file for download So it was P2P shit this time too? What network?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:24:54 2010 No.6294008 Thought crimes. I love 'em!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:24:54 2010 No.6294012 >>6293994 Probably just take you out to the parking lot and grind you up with one of those tree shredder trucks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:25:54 2010 No.6294016 >>6294005 >German Federal Police began investigating the distribution of a known child pornography file on peer-to-peer file sharing networks. doesn't say which, so I'm guessing all

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:25:54 2010 No.6294017 >>6293994 >I must at least have 10,000 explicit loli images Imagine some of the big dogs around here that have that many images in just one of their small folders. Imagine being the police that have to go through every one of those images.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:25:54 2010 No.6294021 The only loli I fap to is inuboshi. Love that fucking artist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:26:54 2010 No.6294023 >>6294017 I bet they'd start enjoying it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:26:54 2010 No.6294027

>>6293996
You don't think there's anyone that gets of to guro and guro alone, you think it's impossible to go through life without sex, you think people who like drawings of kids automatically like real kids...

How old or you? This naivety is incredible. Not trying to be rude, but Jesus Christ.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:28:54 2010 No.6294032 >>6294027 I didn't say it was impossible to get through without sex. But what are the chances of it, seriously... I'm 20, don't label people who disagree with you as underage or whatever you are implying..

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Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:29:54 2010 No.6294037

good thing religion is mostly gone in our generation, I don't see thought crimes being a problem in the future. Most of the governments justice now is fucked up too begin with. Well America might decease in power by then, since most of our young population don't know shit and play wow/cod/xbox all day, even the smart or moral kids seem like all they do is fool around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:29:54 2010 No.6294040 I'm feeling a really strong urge to just turn this into a religion thread and be done with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:30:54 2010 No.6294043 File: 289 KB, 980x1400, 285.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294033

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:30:54 2010 No.6294050 Also, just how do they get away with not charging police who view CP? Government officials are not immune to common law. What a double-standard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:30:54 2010 No.6294051 >>6294032 >But what are the chances of it, seriously About the same chances of being a lolicon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:31:54 2010 No.6294054 File: 606 KB, 1100x1600, 195_s.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294021 I can't get off to Inuboshi. The characters seem too toddler-like and cartoonish for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:31:54 2010 No.6294058 File: 329 KB, 980x1400, 286.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294043

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:32:54 2010 No.6294064 When thought crimes and harmless interesting kills people Oh wait, that's never.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:32:54 2010 No.6294067 File: 350 KB, 980x1400, 287.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294058

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:33:54 2010 No.6294070

Bans on sexually explicit drawings of children are great and should exist in every country.

Obviously if the sicko lives or works with children this should raise suspicion that he/she presents a danger to those kids.

"Thought crimes"? Seriously you fucking nerd? If someone keeps a list of names and detailed ways they plan to kill people in their office shouldn't the police get involved? Same with dudes who spank it to children, drawings or otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:34:54 2010 No.6294073 >>6294050 It's not like they own it on their own PC

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:34:54 2010 No.6294076 File: 326 KB, 980x1400, 288.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294070

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:34:54 2010 No.6294077 File: 597 KB, 1280x4320, Difference.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Some idiots still doesn't know what lolicon and loli are

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:35:54 2010 No.6294080 >>6294070 This.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:35:54 2010 No.6294083 File: 205 KB, 228x160, 1222504277417.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294070 Full retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:35:54 2010 No.6294084 >>6294037 yeah because only christians have a problem with pedophilia

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:36:54 2010 No.6294085 Is it really that hard to understand fetishes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:36:54 2010 No.6294087 File: 401 KB, 980x1400, 289.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294080

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:36:54 2010 No.6294088 File: 122 KB, 800x600, 2d0c6ae6d6424c690b8eff6bb1f62b628a9cb226.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Don't care, religion thread

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:36:54 2010 No.6294089

>>6294070
>If someone keeps a list of names and detailed ways they plan to kill people in their office shouldn't the police get involved?

Technically, if they can't prove intent to carry out any of the details listed, this is perfectly legal.

If it wasn't legal, every book that includes a plot to kill the President would be illegal automatically. Any conspiracy theorist that accuses the government of wrongdoing would be charged with sedition.

Intent is 90% of criminal law. It's really hard to do the egregious stuff without formulating intent to do them. If something can be done unintentionally, then it normally is redefined to either not be criminal or have two scales: with and without intent, one being of a lesser offense.

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Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:37:54 2010 No.6294093

>>6294054
This one's about a man who picks up a little girl with the intention of fucking/raping her. When he gets home with her he realizes that it was her plan to blackmail him into sex with her. She belittles him and harasses him. It's one of the best faps I've had in a long while if you're into little girls dominating and making fun of an older male.

http://www.mediafire.com/?xs53yg7ox8pf8qj

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:37:54 2010 No.6294094 >>6294070 >Obviously if the sicko lives or works with children this should raise suspicion that he/she presents a danger to those kids. And if he doesn't?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:38:54 2010 No.6294096 >>6294070 >If someone keeps a list of names and detailed ways they plan to kill people in their office that's no longer a "thought"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:38:54 2010 No.6294098 File: 507 KB, 1107x1600, 198_s.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294093 Mistyped captcha made me drop my image.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:38:54 2010 No.6294100 >>6294084 well i was talking more about thought crimes and Americas justice values, the generation of today thinks alot different then the government and there god based morals

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:39:54 2010 No.6294103 Lolicon is in itself harmless and must exist as an alternative to real child porn. Pedos gonna pedo, so they may as well enjoy 2D goodness rather than 3D pig disgusting.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:42:54 2010 No.6294116

lol @ the tiny bubble otaku exist in
the only reason lolicon's not illegal in the US is because no one knows what it is yet....just wait until one lolicon rapes a couple kids and they find a cache of drawings at his house. shit's really going to hit the fan.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:43:54 2010 No.6294126 >>6294116 I don't think the people who fap to 2D even know how to abduct a child.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:43:54 2010 No.6294129 what's the difference between pedophile and lolicon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:44:54 2010 No.6294136 >>6294129 Pedophiles like real kids. Lolicons like drawings of kids.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:45:54 2010 No.6294137 File: 496 KB, 1045x1505, 026.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294116 >Kid kills a bunch of cops and blames it on GTA:SA >Still GTA all day erreday Problem officer?

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:47:54 2010 No.6294149 Shit i'm late for a religion thread. Fuck it, i'm going to bed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:47:54 2010 No.6294152 File: 500 KB, 1045x1505, 030.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:49:54 2010 No.6294162 File: 473 KB, 1045x1505, 032.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Officer she's really like 100 years old I swear

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 01:55:54 2010 No.6294189 >>6294129 What >>6294136 said, and also >>6294077 Lolicon/loli is of the 2D realm. And age is irrelevant when it comes to loli, what matters is their appearance.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 02:06:54 2010 No.6294252 >>6293963 just going to ask what artist this is seeing as this thread is dead anyway

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 02:07:54 2010 No.6294257 >>6294252 No clue, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 02:07:54 2010 No.6294258 >>6294252 iqdb bro

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 02:09:54 2010 No.6294269 Now someone post the doujin that has the little girl reading SICP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 02:16:54 2010 No.6294300 >>6294257 Requesting a download link. The translator doesn't seem to have it on their site anymore. Thanks in advance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 02:20:54 2010 No.6294323 I wish the first part of this thread was deleted because that would make this the best thread /jp/ has had in a while.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 02:22:54 2010 No.6294330 >>6294300 A download link for >>6293963 ? I think you quoted the wrong post.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 02:24:54 2010 No.6294337 >>6294300 If it helps, that picture was in Galge and it had the name of the artist. Maybe you could find it in a compilation of wallpapers from that site.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 02:33:54 2010 No.6294362 if reading cartoons and thinking about something makes you guilty in a society, that society clearly has no freedom at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 02:45:54 2010 No.6294425 >>6293651 >Think of the children no thanks, that's thought crime. you can go to jail for that.

>>	Edgy New Tripfriend !!RBT0Wter2IW Sat Oct 16 02:50:54 2010 No.6294443 Hey, guys: what's the difference between imagination and reality? I'm having some serious difficulty here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 02:56:54 2010 No.6294458 Why is this even in /jp/ lolicon != pedo /thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 03:03:54 2010 No.6294481 >imagination and reality? imagination is cool. and you're a god of your own imaginative world. reality is shit. that's why i want to become a god here too, to change it to be cool too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 03:10:54 2010 No.6294510 File: 125 KB, 800x600, 30509 - Konata_Izumi Lucky_Star.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 03:11:54 2010 No.6294514 >>6294443 You can touch one ;_; I'll never be able to fel the warmth of my 2D waifu

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 03:50:54 2010 No.6294670 File: 263 KB, 1118x1600, 1284181736324.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294269 I would dump it, but the /g/ thread I found it on was deleted before I got half way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 05:37:54 2010 No.6294912 Same bullshit discussion. Same bullshit arguments. Same bullshit moralfags. Same bullshit trolls. Same bullshit, errday.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 08:06:54 2010 No.6295196 File: 381 KB, 700x500, natubaba_top.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294252 Aoi Kumiko.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 08:13:54 2010 No.6295204

Well loli is illegal in the US, Canada, half of Europe, Australia...

The US is slowly getting around to giving worse punishments for loli since no one really pays attention to the act that criminalizes it. Canada is notorious for fucking people over for loli. Haven't heard about anyone in Europe being jailed for loli by itself, just tacked on to a charge of owning/distributing 3D pig disgusting CP. Australia has convicted people for owning loli also.

Tl;dr you're fucked no matter where you live.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 08:19:54 2010 No.6295215 >>6295204 >half of Europe I doubt the UK and Sweden can be considered "half of Europe".

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 08:22:54 2010 No.6295221 File: 229 KB, 881x1236, lo10_070e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lolicon is a crime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 08:28:54 2010 No.6295228 >>6295221 sauce on that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 08:35:54 2010 No.6295246 How much jail time have people that have been jailed for loli stuff get?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 08:44:54 2010 No.6295264 >>6295228 http://rapidshare.com/files/396367349/wanyan_aguda_-_119_or_110.rar

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Anonymous Sat Oct 16 09:12:54 2010 No.6295339
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>>6295228
Not sure about US, but in Australia a man was successfully prosecuted for having a pic of... wait for it... Bart and Lisa Simpson naked and doing 'it'.

The defence lawyer tried to argue that these yellow skinned, four fingered, fictitious characters cannot be representative of real life, thus not a CP.

The fucktard of a judge overruled the defence and fuckin made an example of the poor bastard.

Australia is FUCKED.

pic related. As an ausfag I would go to jail for possessing this image.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 09:16:54 2010 No.6295350 >>6295339 What do you expect? It's a giant prison island. Of course you'll be put in jail right and left.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 09:17:54 2010 No.6295352

Guys, this problem is totally easy to solve, I don't understand why you keep discussing.
If prevention brings less harm than potential x danger then you do it.
So if someone says he is going to blow up a house, then people are going to examine to potential that this really happens as well as inspect how worthy is this house and then will dispense security accordingly.
Same with watching loli porn, cp and stuff increasing potential of harming children (permanent trauma possibility). Of course it's all a bit arbitrary and case-based.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 09:23:54 2010 No.6295367 >>6295352 There's no current evidence of any causual link between looking at loli and an increased chance of child molestation. Therefore potential = zero.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 09:26:54 2010 No.6295381 >>6295350 We like to call it Double Jail.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 09:31:54 2010 No.6295401

>>6295367
it might be zero for a few people, but not for everyone. To judge it as zero is a bit arbitrary also. Personally I have the feeling it's 0,012%, so there is some increase but it's negligible. Your education and the law decides as well how much the potential raises.
I'm pretty sure if the law allows, for some, which it might be zero before, would jump to very high actually, whereas maybe for others it will still stay low, because they see the inherent danger it poses to the child and not the law that forbids it or not.
As I say it's case-dependent, a homeless unemployed is not treated in such a case as well as let's say a student, it's not fair in many cases, but they have to start somewhere.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 09:38:54 2010 No.6295429

>>6295401
Im pretty sure being a FBI agent and having to interview abused children would have a risk factor, also watching those videos of real CP for evedence, thats high risk. Also being parent, bathing and touching naked children. Pediatricians would have a pretty high risk since they have to get personal. Safty guards sometimes have to save drowning children, in the water, all wet, medium risk.

Shit hlomes, We need get pediatricians, parents, FBI agents and safety guards banned.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 09:38:54 2010 No.6295432

>>6295401
let's stop making action movies, as they have a little chance to make someone a criminal doing car stunts.

let's stop producing mistery books.
we will have less murders.

Stupid arguments.
Even if it could be true that you would diminish the crimes, destroying culture it's worse than the actual crimes.
And no one should be able to choose what culture is better.
Oh wait, it's what america does all the time.

also related song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pva35TFiBfI

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 09:41:54 2010 No.6295442 >>6295429 Women should be banned to. They put toddlers in their vagina's. Why arnt these people in jail?

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 09:41:54 2010 No.6295444

Mind control laws have no place in a free society. Even if lolicon increased the chance of attempted child rape by 200%, banning it on that basis is tyrannical bullshit.

>"The government may not prohibit speech because it increases the chance an unlawful act will be committed “at some indefinite future time.”"
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20100824180635/http://www2.law.cornell.edu/supct/pdf/00-79
5P.ZO

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 09:42:54 2010 No.6295448 >>6295444 disregard first part of url (or read it, it's interesting too) http://www2.law.cornell.edu/supct/pdf/00-79 5P.ZO Change extension to pdf

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:12:54 2010 No.6295561 >>6294033 Source?

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:16:54 2010 No.6295579

>>6295444

>Mind control laws have no place in a free society. Even if lolicon increased the chance of attempted child rape by 200%, banning it on that basis is tyrannical bullshit.

You are very right on that one. Why are people putting up with this? For me it's my cowardice but i don't believe it's case for another ones. I'm out of this thread so i won't read yours or someone else response. I just felt someone should read it.

Have a pleasant day

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:20:54 2010 No.6295590 >>6295579 I disagree. If it can be conclusively proven to cause great harm, as opposed to imaginary harm, and the harms outweigh the pros, I'm fine with banning it. But good luck getting any actual studies, that aren't biased.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:23:54 2010 No.6295596 >>6295590 >If it can be conclusively proven to cause great harm, as opposed to imaginary harm, and the harms outweigh the pros, Let's ban alcohol, smoking, red meat, football matches, etc.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:26:54 2010 No.6295606

>>6295590
1. Creative expression can never directly cause harm.
2. The only possible harm relevant here is an indirect result of ideas and attitudes that forms of expression may encourage.
3. To ban expression is to enact tyrannical law.
4. Tyrannical law is a direct threat of violence against non-violent people minding their own business; direct harm.

The cure is worse than the sickness. Yes, that's my value judgement.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:26:54 2010 No.6295608 File: 248 KB, 1118x1600, ZZN0507_082.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6294670 http://www.mediafire.com/?j4kgnzwgwmz

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:27:20 2010 No.6295609 >>6295596 Those are too profitable to ban.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:28:50 2010 No.6295616 >>6295609 Oh so all we need to do is make the child porn industry a booming business? There are also profits too be made with hard drugs, soft drugs and prostitution. But only the Netherlands make smart use of that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:32:21 2010 No.6295624 >>6295616 >child porn industry a booming business According to idiots, it already is a multi-billion dollar industry.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:33:51 2010 No.6295625

>>6295616
>Oh so all we need to do is make the child porn industry a booming business?
As a purely practical, political matter, that would be useful. (But let's stick to lolicon for that, please).

Money and popularity are the real guardians of freedom, in capitalism and democracy, respectively.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:33:51 2010 No.6295626 >>6295616 I'm being sarcastic. But why on earth would you ban red meat, or football? They'd fall into the more good than harm category just like lolicon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:34:22 2010 No.6295631 >>6295624 "We have over 9000 penises, all raping children."

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:37:22 2010 No.6295636 >>6295624 All the more reason to make it legal. Just think of the economic benefits.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:37:52 2010 No.6295638

>>6295626
Red meat causes all sorts of health problems according to some. A better example would've been "meat" in general. It causes harm to animals and the environment, and for what? Just some "pleasurable experience" when eating. We have no NEED for meat. The cons outweigh the pros.

Football matches cause enormous destruction because of hooligans. And what benefit does it bring? Just some shallow entertainment. We can easily do without it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:40:23 2010 No.6295640

you guys who now argue with let's ban this or that because they might lead to an increase in something are not looking at the greater whole
for example banning mystery books in order to have less murders, it might be true but, these mystery books also bring entertainment for a greater mass, hence there is a reason why they are not banned
but I might add that these values are set by a the majority of human beings so they might not be flawless or apply for everyone
but in the end it's like this, people try to do something that has an overall smaller harm potential than the alternative, all limited within their knowledge
if you can be absolutely sure that killing one person will has a greater total benefit for this world, please go on, but chances are small that you can really claim to know that

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:41:23 2010 No.6295643 >>6295638 To the first, that's plausible. To the second, that's basically just your opinion, and that imaginary sex is no less shallow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:41:23 2010 No.6295644 >>6295640 Mystery novels only interest a small group, like all genre fiction, they are hardly mainstream. Nobody would really care if they were banned.

Anonymous Sat Oct 16 10:43:53 2010 No.6295648

>>6295640
Your argument is that most people who enjoy football matches are not hooligans and you are depriving them of entertainment when it prevents only very little. This is the EXACT argument used to defend loli. Lolicons that are actual pedosexuals are incredibly few. Probably an even tinier percentage than the amount of football fans that go berserk.

The only reason people want to ban loli is moralism, and they are just trying to come up with arguments that they think hold water, while their underlying motives are the same as Christian fundies with regards to homosexuality.

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