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A proper ... retribution.
A proper ... truth.

Everyone in /jp accepted that Kyrie and Rudolf were the culprit....they accepted the truth Bernkastel claimed.

So it became a proper truth, and Kyrie and Rudolf were designated as the proper culprits.

No longer would anyone protect them.
No longer would anyone believe in them.

So they were now... the true culprits.

>> No.6124555

Yeah, makes totally sense.

>> No.6124567

yea, massacring your family for fun makes you innocent

>> No.6124568

Except we weren't made to be as sympathetic towards them as we were with Natsuhi.
So no one cares about protecting or believing in them, even if they didn't do it.

>> No.6124572

I'd still take 'Rudolf and Kyrie go mad and shoot/mutilate everyone' over 'no one was bad'.

Seriously, there's obviously SOME pre-meditation to the murders.

>> No.6124688

It is probably the truth, Bernkastel said it in red, and as far as I can see there is no room for interpretation, but Will or Battler will probably find a way to put the truth back into the cat box/black box during the next episode. Will tried doing so right away, although failing for the time being.

>> No.6124833

>>6124542
Yeah, totally crying for them over here. It's not like Kyrie was progressively built up to be a crazy bitch over the entire series or anything.

>> No.6124844 [DELETED] 

Wait, they're the culprits? why? Kyrie seemed lovely, and Rudolf was amusing.

>> No.6124994

>>6124844
>Wait, they're the culprits?
Yesno, at least they are the ones who cause everything to escalate.

>> No.6125003
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>>6124688
>Bernkastel said it in red

>> No.6125116

No, Bern didn't say it in red, and the whole Episode makes it so obvious it's not the truth it makes me wonder why people keep bringing up with this shit.

>> No.6125134

>>6125116
And how exactly does it make it so obvious? Please share.

>> No.6125139

Denial faggots are fucking retarded.
Something DID happen that made all these people die.
So someone had to snap and do it, considering that Beatrice has been hyped as a scapegoat that mean she didn't directly kill anyone.
So who is left? Who has been developed as a potential murderer?

And you also have to remember Eva survived, why did she refuse to talk about what happened on the island, even taking all the blame from the media?

>> No.6125156
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6125156

Just as planned!

>> No.6125168

Kyrie probably had no choice except to get a huge sum of money, because Ange were held hostage by Sumaderas, who hadn't received their regular payment for letting Kyrie marry into Ushiromiya family, because Kinzo, who paid them, is dead. Her speech is just the way to make Eva care about Ange if Kyrie wouldn't survive. Calling it.

>> No.6125232

>>6125116
>the whole Episode makes it so obvious it's not the truth
How so? What is the point "people" are missing so they "bring up this shit"?
Bern at least tries to make everyone think this is the truth, and I don't see a valid counterargument, but "It's in the box!!one!!!one!eleven!!".

>> No.6125240

>>6125232
> I don't see a valid counterargument, but "It's in the box!!one!!!one!eleven!!"
you're forgetting "Bern is trolling!11!111 Don't trust Bern!1!1!!"

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>Something DID happen
>DID

>> No.6125274

>>6125168
Posting evidence, in case someone forgot (and I think it's a lot of people, because no one seems to love ep4):

......However. Kyrie had suddenly been disinherited.
She had refused the fiance her parents had arranged, and had gotten pregnant by her lover, Ushiromiya Rudolf.
From the Sumadera family's perspective, even though the Ushiromiya family held a vast fortune, it was a downgraded family which had already collapsed.
And to become not even a legal wife, but a mistress to the second son of that family...
Normally, a daughter of the main family would be shown no mercy for something so dishonorable.
They would wrap her up in a mat, place a pole on end, and throw her either into the Pacific Ocean if the pole fell to the right or the Sea of Japan if it fell to the left.
.........But Kyrie's punishment was nothing but disinheritance, an unbelievably warm-hearted decision.
After that, the Sumadera family began receiving favorable treatment from a section of the Ushiromiya group. ......There must have been some kind of backroom deal.
In other words, Kyrie openly left the Sumadera family with the pretense of gaining financial support from the Ushiromiya family.


Also, Ange stayed in her Grandfather's house that day. Even though Ange says that he was kind to her and Kyrie and was something like an outcast in Sumadera family, we can't be sure about their circumstances and Ange was too small to judge.

>> No.6125302

>>6125274
Was this stated in EP 4? I have no recollection of this at all.

>> No.6125497

>>6125134
>>6125232
I don't know, maybe the fact that the whole tea party is the total opposite of EVERYTHING shown in the actual episode? ("The why-dunnit is important!" and "Mysteries without love suck!" vs. HAI GUYS KILLING FOR MONEY LOL)

>> No.6125530

>>6125497
Well duh. After episode 6, we were all expecting Bernkastel to reveal the truth, but in such a way that it portrayed people in the worst possible light. And that is exactly what happened in the Tea Party: the actual murderers were revealed, and the way it was presented portrayed them in the worst possible light. There were a few scenes that seemed to be skipped over, with the most obvious one being the Kyrie-Jessica fight. Most likely the stuff we weren't shown changes the meaning of the scenes we were shown.

>> No.6125536

>>6125530
Er, sorry, not "all of us" but " a large portion of us". There were also those who believed that Bernkastel would get trolled by Battler and Beatrice instead.

>> No.6125556

>>6125497
The actual episode glosses over a heck lot of things considering the feelings of the involved characters. Especially the three red scenes towards the end of the Tea Party emphasize that very clearly.

Magic is a considerate lie. That is a big point of episode 6 afair.

First and foremost, Bern doesn't want to work with Beatrice's mystery. She purports to show the dirty truth.
Also, if you can't point out the Why for Kyrie and Rudolf you are an idiot: Money and survival instinct. Obviously love is involved as well, Kyrie says so herself.

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Why is so bad about Kyrie and Rudolf being the killers?
They are still awesome.

And seriously, someone has to be the culprit who kills the others, who would everyone accept as killer without complaining and resorting to lack of love and similar stuff?
I'm sure if it wasn't Kyrie and Rudolf people would complain anyways, no matter who the culprit is XCharacter fags wopuld whine

>> No.6125663

why are you guys even arguing about this?
this is Bern's turn, whatever "bad guys" appearing here will be whitewashed in the next episode....probably in the first 100 lines.

>> No.6125885

Is this another way to tell us to not stop thinking, OP?

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