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Have you ever tried/considered lucid dreaming as a way to be with your waifu?

>> No.5760474

Yes, and I'm able to induce hallucinations as well.

>> No.5760479

I considered lucid dreaming of banging all girls I liked back in High School out of vengeance.

>> No.5760481

>>5760474
Motherfucker
I wish my mind was strong enough to do stuff like that

>> No.5760486

teach me

>> No.5760487

I exhausted myself trying to get the results from that sleep paralysis inducing method but didn't go through with it because it was a troll. When I went to sleep that night I dreamt of Byakuren (not my waifu) sticking one of her rods in between another touhous legs. Does that count?

>> No.5760492

Has OP just seen Inception too?

>> No.5760494

>>5760487
Sounds like a messed up dream

>> No.5760506
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>>5760481
Haven't tried these yet. If they don't work you can always try out them newfangled sensory deprivation tanks.

>> No.5760508
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>> No.5760515

The only real reason to actually pay attention to the Ange angstfest in EP4 of Umineko is because the process by which she learns magic is the same process that you can use to induce hallucinations...I went in a reverse way since I learned how to hallucinate before lucid dreaming.

>> No.5760518

>>5760494
It was kinda hot at first. After a few seconds though the girl she stuck her rod into started to dry up rabidly as if Byakuren was stealing her youth.

>> No.5760530

>>5760515
You do drugs?
Or are you just crazy?
Serious question

>> No.5760547

>>5760487
Troll? It's a legitimate tactic, called Wake Initiated Lucid Dreaming.

>>5760508
Most of the advice here is solid, except the light switch and mirror parts. I would not recommend it. Shit tends to start nightmares. Safer dream signs are things like counting the digits on your hand, looking at digital clocks, or trying to push your finger through your hand.

Most importantly, take it easy. If you're too hyped up when using this method, it won't work.

>> No.5760550

Sincerely, I don't care since I don't have a "waifu".

>> No.5760554

>>5760508
This is a bad method don't do it. You're better off doing MILD. And even if you do do WILD then there are better ways than that picture.

>> No.5760579

>>5760506
Why it has to be ping pong balls?

>> No.5760611

>>5760530
I am not the poster of that, but. I do DXM occasionally, third plateau is the most you will ever love your waifu in real life.

Good luck ordering that DXM bro.

>> No.5760735

>>5760611
How many bottles of robotussin do you have to chug for third plateu? lol

>> No.5760748

Every time I sleep.

>> No.5760784

>>5760530

I consider myself to maintain some level of insanity or at least detachment from the world. I'm not so much as a nutjob as I am an airhead. If you start not caring about much, your mind starts to wander...I just managed to focus where my mind wandered to, that's all.

>> No.5760792

I honestly tried very, very hard to get to the point of lucid dreaming.

It didn't work for me. I wrote down every fucking dream I got into a notebook. At the time of doing it I remembered every dream I had every time I fell asleep.

But I couldn't trigger a lucid dream. I'm unbelievably jealous of you all.

>> No.5760810

Lucid dreams gone nightmares are absolutely horrid, it doesn't matter what kind of control you have achieved, fear will always get the best of you in a dream.
The best higher levels of control will grant you is an easier time waking up.

And yeah, I not all that sure how easy it is to "force" lucid dreams if they don't come naturally to you.

There are of course a few tips, such as making it a habit to check what time it is each other minute, or reading all kinds of papers.
It doesn't work for everyone though and I believe you need to have a rather unsettled mind to begin with, if you sleep too deep you won't have a lucid dream.
The only ones I know who have had regular lucid dreams have had them during periods of time int heir life that was generally shit, and times when nightmares also were common.

There also seem to be a connection between the state of mind that allows lucid dreaming and the state of mind that brings forth nightmares.
Now you can have plenty of lucid dreams without nightmares, I know I did, but nightmares can still be common and if you are all up and happy during the days and weeks, then I believe you can have a harder time to reach lucid dreaming states,

>> No.5760977

You learned to do all that, Bernfag? Care to detail it once more?

>> No.5761096

>If you start not caring about much, your mind starts to wander...
i kinda know that part since my mind wanders all the time, but it's too easy for me to 'snap back into reality' which i hate.

i wanna stay within my delusions.

>> No.5761118

>>5760458
yep. But i have never done it right i guess. Never worked. I should try harder i guess.
I've done everything that the lucid dreaming instruction pic says. But maybe one day it will work.

>> No.5761122

>>5760508
Could I use this method in the middle of the day?

>> No.5761130

Fuck no. I don't want to experience nightmares.

>> No.5761131

I had LDs several times (never by a successful WILD/MILD, it just happens once in a while) and was never able to do anything really interesting.
Last time, I failed when trying to materialize mai waifu. She just stood there dumbfounded.
In general I just have problems remembering what I should try to do, and just stand there continuing my dream, although having conscience of it all along.

I never succeed WILD because I always feel the need for swallowing my saliva. Feels stupid.

>> No.5761157

maybe i've done lucid dream without wanting it, i was completely aware that i was dreaming, i was in my dream doing anything i can do and suddenly i wake up feeling like the dream was just my imagination when i was "awake" during the morning, everytime it happens my eyes aren't tired and my head feel heavy

>> No.5761421

>>5760487
It's not a troll, it works if you do it right.

>> No.5761448

I've tried many times, but I've failed all of them. I can't seem to do it.

>> No.5761450

>>5761122
It's better to try WILD during a mid-day/afternoon nap, and even better to do it going back to sleep after just waking up from a nap / sleep (if you have to go to the toilet or something).

You also don't have to lie on your back, just be comfortable and not-moving, as if you're going to sleep.

>> No.5761451

Yes, I also do drugs. Works great man.

>> No.5761559
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Actually yes I've had lucid dreams with touhous in them.
They were very strange, though.
I was Tenshi, in 19th century Britain, going on a mission. I drove around in a van and molested little boys in dark alleys. Flandre tagged along and finished them off. We went to the SDM to deal with a report from Remi of a pack of wild fairy maids. We met Cirno and Kogasa along the way to the SDM. Kogasa was the one who disposed of them, by surprise.
..
I have strange dreams every night.

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>>5761559

>> No.5761569

>>5761559
>molested little boys in dark alleys
how did it feel? also, read the topic again.

>> No.5761570

>>5761559
at least it's touhou related, mine are always about war and street fight

>> No.5761577

>>5761569
Tenshi is my waifu.

>> No.5761589
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>>5761559
>>5761577
>I was Tenshi
>Tenshi is my waifu.

you want to be your own waifu?

>> No.5761593

I wish I could, but I never remember my dreams.

Ive tried a diary, but I've never got anything to put in it. I think I need a better sleeping schedule

>> No.5761599
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>>5761589
I was my waifu for some reason. It was awesome.

>> No.5761605

I use lucid dreaming for my studies. It is where I try to solve some of the hardest mathematical problems that I have ever faced.

>> No.5761616

I mixed DPH and DXM to do this.
It worked out quite well.

>> No.5761633

>>5761616
how in the FUCK did you manage to control a DXM trip? that shit's crazy.

>> No.5761637

>>5761616

Enjoy your death.

>> No.5761643

I had a lucid dream before about having sex with an Japanese little girl in a locker room. she was on top of me, moving her small naked body. i was like "man. i know its a dream so i'll sex her as much as i can." and i pinched her nipples. then, i felt her insides twitching. then i was like "holy crap. this is so realistic." and i kept sexing. but soon i realized that i wasn't feeling good at all, i woke up. the funny part's that i slept again hoping i could see that dream again but nothing happened.
topic unrelated but this one's a good example. spoilered cause i don't want to get deported to a mental hospital by the FBI's. ;_;

>> No.5761648

>>5761633
Not a heavy dosage. Plus I was browsing desuchan's /touhou/ before the come on.

I was very determined also for whatever that's worth.

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>>5761643
I had a dream I had sex with a clone of myself except it was a futa, and was in my bathroom
Shit was so cash
Had to stop myself from cumming because apparently I didn't want to get my clone pregnant

Also I don't have a futa fetish
Also it wasn't a lucid dream

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>>5761661
Are you a woman?

>> No.5761677

>>5761673
Only on Sunday's

>> No.5761682

>>5761605
I've wanted to try stuff like this with lucid dreaming, does it work well?

>> No.5761699

>>5761643
Whats wrong with that?

Just "go apeshit" and they pump you full of tranquilizers and its back to being the little girl in dream land!

>> No.5761721

>>5760810
Nightmare and lucid dreams are pretty close for me. I can turn my nightmares into lucid dreams if I "gain" control (simply realizing it's a dream, then I can picture a chainsaw or something out of no where and "dominate" whatever is haunting me). I can easily induce nightmares simply by stacking heavy blankets on myself when I sleep. Once I have control, it's a lucid dream. Most of mine begins in a very dark room where I can't see anything. I didn't realize how to solve that until I snap my finger during one of them and light turns on. After that, it's pretty much pure fun for me. I've had intercourse with multiple females (good looking, but sadly not 2D) many time, but wakes up every time right before orgasm. On another note, taking it too fast (going straight to the thrusting without foreplay) wakes me up.

>> No.5761744

You guys should try sleep deprivation
3-4 days without sleep and you start seeing crazy shit.

>> No.5761868
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5761868

I'm too rational for things like delusions and lucid dreaming. If I notice I'm dreaming, I wake up. It's also the reason I can't love my waifu, I can never delude myself into forgetting she's not real. ;_;

>>5761744
Sleep deprivation just gets me a lot of frameskip and makes me lazy.

>> No.5761874

I want to lucid dream but everytime I realise I'm dreaming I'd somehow say to myself "ooo I'm dreaming, let's enjoy this dream" and followed along the "dream scenario"

>> No.5761884

>>5761868
Maybe you have the wrong waifu?
I know mai waifu isn't real at all but I still love her more than anything

>> No.5761905
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I discovered how to lucid dream by accident.
At work I always have 3 day weekends, so when my alarm goes off at 6AM in friday I just hit snooze and stay in bed.

Well, the damn thing goes off EVER FIVE MINUTES, and I keep hitting it. I've already had a full night's rest, I'm just lazy and don't want to get out of bed. Soon enough I am back in dreamland.

I start to loose control after some time in my dream as I go from half awake to mostly asleep, but then my alarm pulls me back, and my body has gotten so good at hitting snooze I don't even have to think about it.

And so I keep going up and down with my level of control until it's like 3PM and I've had like 5 lucid dreams I can barely remember, and forget a few minutes after waking up.

All I remember about them is that they were awesome and I had a fuck ton of fun. It got pretty addicting too.

Never lucid dreamed of a waifu or even having sex for that matter. I think they were all more action oriented. I guess I just liked kicking asses more than fucking them.

I mean really, would you rather have sex or be part of a heist? I'll take the heist, any loser can have sex. A heist is a once in a lifetime opportunity!

>> No.5761906

I've tried a countless number of times, failing each and every time. I always end up getting a crappy 3D real-life dream once I finally do fall asleep. Although, I do have one recurring dream where I'm just lying down in a beautiful flower field with my waifu, we don't even do anything, all we really do is talk to each other.

>> No.5761914

>>5761868
Around the 4th or 5th day is when shit gets real.

>> No.5761920

>>5761905
I had 3 dreams in a row that I was a killer
Weren't lucid dreams either
Shit was pretty cool
Least they weren't the usual nightmares
/a/ related dreams though

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>>5761920
You went out into the city, killed people and sucked their blood in your dreams?

>> No.5761935

>>5761914
Yes, but after even one night of not sleeping, my creative output drops to zero. As an artist, I just can't stand being unable to make anything for several days in a row.

>> No.5761936

>>5761929
Yeah actually how'd you know?
You ever have dreams like that?

>> No.5761976

I posted about it here before, I'm the guy who had the Yukari dream where she basically asserted that she would dominate the shit out of me, and I woke up having an orgasm. (I'm talking full on release, cumming in the bed like I had been fapping, not just a little dribble or something)

Now THAT is a weird motherfucking experience to wake up to. It's only happened once or twice before I think, and it was during a randomly generated (not self-induced) lucid dream about something sexually exciting.

Lucid dreams are not something I try to aim for, though, because sleep paralysis is goddamned terrifying, and the nightmares you might trigger make you feel all uneasy even after you wake up, like you've got to turn all the lights on or something.

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5761988

What's so bad about nightmares? Surely as a man you should be able to take them?

>> No.5762010

>>5761988

Your own brain is VERY good at playing to your most deep set fears, dragging them up from your subconscious and shoving them in your face. (At least mine is)

I prefer my dreams to be a delightful experience, not spend them being chased by giant eyes screaming at me or some such shit.

>> No.5762015

>>5761988
I have nightmares almost every night but I'm so emotionally devoid that they don't bother

>> No.5762024

>>5762010
Nothing wrong with a little excitement, is there?

>> No.5762042

>>5762010
being shattered by a giant pillar of iron with no mouths but continually screaming the name of god?

>> No.5762117

>>5762010
Get this nigga some salvia

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I've tried, shit doesn't work.

>> No.5763219

I would try this, but the thought of experiencing sleep paralysis freaks me out. I do NOT need hallucinations of creepy demons/aliens/2chananon sitting on me. Anyone experience this while trying to have a lucid dream?

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I keep trying to summon lenneth Valkyrie and i get is silmeria.

>> No.5763243

>>5763219

I don't understand what about sleep paralysis scares people. I've had it a couple times before on nights with normal dreams, it goes away pretty quickly

>> No.5763244

>>5763219
just keep your eyes closed and try to resist. IT FEELS LIKE YOUR IN WARHAMMER 40K!

>> No.5763259

i lucid dream often, mostly about raping women. 2 nights ago i dreamed about raping a black girl in the street.

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>>5763259

>> No.5763273

>>5763219

Yes, and its goddamned terrifying. Like I had to stop myself from absolutely panicking and get myself under control before I could move.

For me it wasn't like something was sitting on me, but more like SOMETHING HORRIBLE was in the room with me, and I couldn't move to even look at it, no less try to get away. I don't know how long it lasted, but it felt like a good 45 seconds or so of terror before I got under control and really woke up.

>> No.5763296

I don't even care about my waifu anymore.... I just say I have one to fit in on /jp/ and Tohno-chan.

>> No.5763305

>>5763270
i know, it was pretty random. i don't even like black girls.

>> No.5763320

>>5763305

>. i don't even like black girls.

Is that so?

Or are you just saying that in the way that /jp/ says they don't even like dicks?

>> No.5763327

>>5763320
but most of us love dick

>> No.5763358

>>5763327


So I've noticed.

>> No.5763413

>>5763273
Sleep paralysis makes your brain release fear-inducing chemicals, so even when you realize it's not real, you feel absolutely terrified. I woke up with a 10 foot tall shadow person next to me, and I was paralyzed for about a minute.

>> No.5763462

>>5763413
I never had anything like this. I just thought "oh cool, there's the sleep paralysis kicking in, now how do I shift into lucid dreaming..." but never figured out how to.

>> No.5763467

Yes, me and my husbando have been together every night for the past 2 weeks.

>> No.5763487

A lot. But I've never really managed to pull it off.

>> No.5763504

I get that waking up suddenly with intense fear all the time. Just suddenly started about half a year ago. Nowadays they are a little less intense and when it happens I more quickly get to the "oh it's this stupid shit again" realization and snap out of it. The only thing I know is I wake up with incredible fright of something, and when it's over (lasts a couple of seconds) I cannot recall WHAT made me so frightened in the first place. Very strange.

>> No.5763517

>>5763462
just chant the litany of protection or something that relaxes you

>> No.5763710

I'm currently trying to get back into the lucid dreaming habit. I used to do it naturally as a kid, and regularly wrote down detailed logs.

The closest things I have to nightmares are mere anxiety dreams.

The closest things I have to waifu dreams are dreams of playing some VN. When I play games inside a dream, the dreamt simulation expands to surround my consciousness completely. I am effectively teleported into the game world.

Waking sleep paralysis has happened a few times to me. I never get unpleasant hallucinations with it. I hope it happens more; I hear that's a convenient state of consciousness from which one can easily slip into a dream without losing focus. The technique is to just visualise some scene, relax, and fall back to sleep with that in mind. If you get it right, you'll slip into a dream and the first scene you're in will be the scene you imagined, with no (or very little) break in the continuity of your consciousness (thus retaining lucidity).

The technique can be done without starting from a state of paralysis too, preferably after a few hours of sleep. So set your alarm for the middle of the night.

>> No.5763722

>>5763413
>Sleep paralysis makes your brain release fear-inducing chemicals, so even when you realize it's not real, you feel absolutely terrified.
Never happened to me. Got source for that?

>> No.5763793

I sometimes find myself half-awake in a state of confusion and anxiety. But not terror. It's usually the tail-end of a dream involving work. I'm tasked with some task that doesn't really make sense, and I'm struggling to perform it. Last time, it was something to do with spreadsheets. I found myself in my bed, struggling to squeeze and arrange my bedsheets into a spreadsheet.

>> No.5763797

>>5763710
Thanks for the tips, gonna try this tonight.

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>> No.5763846

>>5763837

What the fucking fuck?

>> No.5763847

>>5763793

I get that too sometimes, though it's not really nonsensical tasks, they are real ones that I absolutely cannot stop my brain from thinking about. Of course since I can't do anything about them while in bed, I just sit there fretting.

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>>5763837
sup guys

>> No.5763961

>>5763846
Hallucinogen.

>> No.5763970

>>5763961

I know, but what's with the fucking spiders?

>> No.5763991

>>5763970
Common thing to see when you're tripping on it.

>> No.5763999

>>5763991

Well, fuck that.

I'll stick with my mushrooms and my acid, thank you.

>> No.5764034

>>5763999
I don't blame you.
It really fucks you up and not in a good way. Only sick, crazy bastards like me would intentionally give themselves a bad trip.

>> No.5764096

>>5760458
I'm working on it. I lucid dreamed once, but for some reason all I did was summon a girl and rape her. She wasn't even 2d. Also I often wake up in the middle of the night with my brain unable to stop thinking about something. I once spent 20 minutes trying to go to sleep while my mind wouldn't stop thinking about electrical circuit diagrams.

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>>5763852
Not much

>> No.5764157

I almost lucid dreamed last night. Since I've been practising to lucid dream for a while now I'm getting into the habit of doing reality checks every now and then. In my dream I looked at my hands as a reality check to see if they looked okay (apparently sometimes your hands will look strange or not have the right amount of fingers) and, indeed, my ring finger was smaller than my pinky finger.

I sort of thought about it for a while making sure I didn't just take drugs or something since it didn't really feel like a dream (but then again, it never does), but then I started waking up. You're supposed to rub your hands together or spin around in a circle as this happens, but I completely forgot.

>> No.5767752

bump

>> No.5769704

i tried that method yesterday. after a while i think i got partially or even fully sleep paralysis'd but i didn't feel any fear or anything.

i couldn't do anything from that state either though. no lucid dreams, no nothing. after an hour or something i gave up and went to sleep normally.

>> No.5770144

>>5764147
fucking /dis/, man

>> No.5770187

Wow, can't believed I miss a lucid dreaming thread

>> No.5770234

I had one of the best lucid dreams I've ever had about two weeks or or so ago.

It disapproved the good mood feeling theory too because my thread had been mired in endless troll spam

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