/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Ryukishi really likes those lesbians, doesn't he?

[Anonymous No.]

Erika is canon bi.

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

Dlanor is just playing the part of Erika's ex boyfriend now isn't she.

Erika confirmed for non virgin ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

Ryu is just stupid, he's a lonely bitch and need to fap to his own creations

[Anonymous No.]

You know it.

[Anonymous No.]

I was hoping for some beautiful hatesex. Instead we get Erika going nuts.

[Anonymous No.]

He likes homosexuals more.

[Anonymous No.]

I think Ryukishi is trying to get out of the closet or he desires to be a girl.

-Lesbian Erika and Dlanor
-Traps
-He pictures himself as a woman (Featherine)
-The whole Umineko story is about "love".
-The episode 7 portrait guy is bishonen.

[Anonymous No.]

I find the concept of a relationship between those two interesting. I mean, Dlanor is a 'murder doll', and Erika is an obstreperous bitch, who doesn't know what a heart is.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh you'd like that happen to you, ryu, wouldn't you you swine!
I came so hard

[Anonymous No.]

I like how love between George and Shannon is basically false now that shkanon is true and all couples with "true love" left are basically lesbians.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645615
Don't forget Bern/34, which is like the flagship lesbian pairing for the series. And there's Ange/Mammon, Kyrie/Levi, and Bern/Erika. Then there's Lia/Gaap, if you want to delve further in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645635
It is 100% confirmed now.
Shannon is modeled after Sakuya.
Both are meido and uses PAD.

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

Erika was using male pronouns that scene, and curiously also swiched between Boku and Ore, so I think it's safe to assume she was quoting her 'ex Boyfriend'

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645575

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>>5645642
You forgot NatsuhixEva, the fans love that pairing.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is there so little good fanart of the two?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645650
I had a sneaking suspicion that she might've been the second Battler/baby from this line, but I think she's just really hurt after Ep 6.

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

>>5645674

She's too young for that though. Also yeah, it's pretty likely that she just was hurt pretty badly before.

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[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Superior pairing

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645615

R07 could be a woman and that guy that shows up for shit is just like the masked guy Featherine uses for signings.

But if Featherine is his proxy, he also sees himself as a "monster". So, hum.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>5645699
I came.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645718
>>5645722
Only reason I still read Umineko, that and the soundtrack.
Everything else is stupid shit, R07 should just give and only write about Bern and Lambda lesbian antics.

[Anonymous No.]

So tsundere♥

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645627
Most brilliant thing to come out of Japan; a wedding ring rape scene, with a too-tight ring being lubed up to go through Battler's virgin finger. Shit I remember downloading it the day it came out, comming onto /jp/, explaining how this scene goes down, and everyone was like wut, u lie, etc.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>5645739
>Everything else is stupid shit, R07 should just give and only write about Bern and Lambda lesbian antics.
I second this sentiment.

[Anonymous No.]

Good end.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645764
>>wedding ring rape scene

Yeah, that was pretty unsubtle symbolism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645764
>>5645627

Doujin fucking where

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

I'm tired of VN having a huge amount of lesbians.

I'm fine with 2 lesbians lover, but jeez, when every girls start to have lesbian subtext it really ruins the mood and setting for me, it's just stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm sorely tempted to writefag up some Dlanor/Erika. What kind of shit would you guys like to read about them?

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

>>5645897

I'm all for some sweet loving. Like in the middle of the night after Erika and Dlanor had that battle over her old boyfriend Dlanor notices her crying on her bed, goes to comfort her and they share a moment on intimacy...

Sorry, I'm a hopeless romantic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645575
does anyone know where to download the game/patch, I just got into visual novels and want to try this out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645939
google.com

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645939
Fuck off pirate scum. You are not welcome here.
http://www.paletweb.com/selectpage.asp?code=80000409
http://www.himeyashop.com/product_info.php/products_id/14763

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645960
>Fuck off pirate scum
implying everyone on /jp/ pays for there visual novels

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645939
Buy them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645972
You can fuck off to /v/ together with him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645972
>implying
>pays for there
>there

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645939
Play something else first, Umineko will rot your brain and you could become like these brainless faggot if you try it first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645884

The Dlanor scene is a misunderstanding, with Erika muttering half-asleep about her ex. The only canon lesbians in Umineko are LD/BK.

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

>>5645939

I'd apreciate it if from now on you'd try looking for it yourself first, before asking. It's really not that difficult.

[Ayashiro !Hime2512LA No.]

>>5645991
>you could become like these brainless faggot

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>>5645960
>he doesn't pirate his games

[Anonymous No.]

You guys want a real headfuck? I think that Erika's ex is Battler. He takes after his dad alot after all. He even said 'I'd rather play around with everyone than just stick to one person'. I can totally see him going out with her and fooling around behind her back. Erika knew where Battler was going to be that weekend, and jumped off the boat while it passed near Rokkenjima intending to commit suicide. But maybe she made it to shore by some miracle...

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>>5646035
I know that type doesn't remember their exes, but shouldn't Battler mention this somewhen?

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>>5646035

I'd be totally behind this theory, except for one thing: the only thing we know about Erika's ex is that he was into theatre. Some kind of an actor or something. And I'm pretty sure there's no such thing mentioned about Battora.

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

>>5646027

Excuse me for supporting the people that make the games I enjoy.

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>>5646035
>>5646070

Still, it's a nice theory and I wish there was something more firm to support it. It would not only connect Erika into the plot by better means than "random dead girl lol", and it would explain why the fuck she's got such a mad-on at Battler.

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>>5646082

...What kind of a sick pervert would exchange money for goods or services?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646088
A crazy wasteful fuck.
Money is for sustenance, not entertainment.

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>>5646055
He has mentioned in the past that one of the girls he knows warned him that he needs to be more serious in his relationships.

As for why this wouldn't have been mentioned, well... Since most of these tales are 'forgeries' written by people who have deduced enough about the events on that island (according to the message bottles) to be able to write convincing tales themselves.

One author heard about 'Furudo Erika, who vanished from a ship while passing Rokkenjima' and decided to write her into the story as something of a Mary Sue detective character. This author might not have suspected that Erika had a connection to Battler, or might have dismissed that idea so she could have Erika play out the role she was given.

Anyway... This is just one possible truth. Make of it what you will.

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>>5646070
Theatre? When was that mentioned...? Did I miss that?

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>>5646128

It was in the same scene (with Dlanor) where Erika complains about her ex. I don't remember the specific wording, but there were multiple references to the ex going to practice or stage or something.

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>>5645573
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>>5646070

We don't really know what Battler did in his years away.

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[Anonymous No.]

I don't think anyone who read the whole scene could think there was lesbian subtext going on. Dlanor and her are only vaguely friends.
But it does mean that she's used goods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646179

Lifting weights and injecting steroids.

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>>5646151
Ah, just reread that. Okay I see what you mean.

But I think this falls into the same line of reasoning that convinced Erika that her ex was cheating. The 'theatre practice' and all that might have been lies on his part to cover for his philandering.

Still, that person seems a bit too cold to be Battler. Who knows though.

[Anonymous No.]

Battler might not recognise Erika, because her hair is dyed blue. Also that dress and her over the top facial expressions could be offsetting her appearance.

In one of the scenes in Ep 5 when Bern is scolding her, she says that she gave her her blue hair.

You could take that to mean in mystery side, she dyed her hair after being dumped like some women do. Erika Furudo is probably an alias too.

Come to think of it, in the flashback, it says "take my blonde hair". Maybe hair is an important clue?

Maybe Erika was previously blonde like Battler liked... Jessica is blonde, and she's wearing her dress...

[Anonymous No.]

I should stop reading these threads, it's getting more and more stupid which is pretty hard to believe.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

>>5646128

When Erika was ranting about him and the stuff he said to her.

Also, Battler seems like a decent actor...

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>>5646231
>>5646235

I like this theory. It's a far fetch, but I like it.

Erika always seemed a lot angrier at Battler than seemed appropriate. And the forcible wedding scene... need I even say anything?

[Anonymous No.]

Erika is Kinzo in disguise.
Discuss.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

>>5646235

Whooooa. Mind blown

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[Anonymous No.]

>>5646235
It's unlikely, but this would be a nice plot twist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646235
Knox's 1st
It is FORBIDDEN for the culprit to be anyone not mentioned in the early part of the STORY.
Does it means that to you, ERIKA-SAMA and Beatrice are not the CULPRIT?

[Anonymous No.]

I think the problem with the Battler theory is that Erika was actually going out with someone, while Battler has always just played around with a lot of girls at once. Also, Erika threw a bunch of evidence on her boyfriend and he still tried to say he still loved her, but eventually told her to fuck off. I don't think Battler would do that.

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>>5646281

Erika wasn't the culprit, except in Episode 6, but that was purposely fucked up anyway.

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>>5646286

Maybe they simply had a different idea of how serious the relationship was. Battler aiming going for a quick fuck and Erika was hearing the wedding bells in her head. It happens.

Though I suppose the language used ("get lost, bitch") would be uncharacteristically cold of him.

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>>5646286

Could be another character's ex. It seems a bit crap to make the ex unknown.

But think about how Battler treated Moe~ Beato because she wasn't the real Beato.

Erika wouldn't have been the real deal either, with a flatter chest. No matter how much he might have wanted to, he couldn't bring himself to stay with her because he wasn't physically attracted.

Also, at the end, where Erika says "You'll never get a normal girl to like you..."

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>>5646281
Define 'culprit'. Erika did, after all, kill the victims of the first twilight in this game, and saw their heads off.

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>>5646299

He does tell her "go to hell".

[Anonymous No.]

Even if this isn't true, someone needs to email this shit to R07 so he can retcon it in. It's too hilarious not to be true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646309

And she does!

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>>5646330

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>>5646330

Seconded. Moonspeak squad, your objective is clear.

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>>5646301
>>5646309
Both of those were special circumstances and I don't think he would act that way towards a girl in normal situations.
Maybe I'm just going by an overly naive reading but it didn't seem to me that Battler meant he was playing around in the same way a dudebro(or his father) would fuck random women and play with their hearts because he can.

[Anonymous No.]

George also says that kids her age have issues with their identity...

[Anonymous No.]

So...maybe to be with Erika (who made Battler forget about Shkannontrice) is his sin.

Nonsense, I know.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

>>5646341

Yes please. It's such a good theory. It ties in Erika really well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645991

Not him, but i played various VN before Umineko, including Ever17, and i'm still liking it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646343

How do you know Erika wasn't a special circumstance? I mean, she's nuts. She could have been stalking him and using tape and going completely paranoid, and that might have driven him nuts too.

Also, his interpretation of Battler's actions could have been coloured by her own paranoia. After all, he just played around with girls, and she is a very serious person at heart. After all, she said herself that love can actually obscure the truth instead of revealing it.

Because she wasn't able to see things from both points of view, hers and Battler's, she never understood his actions.

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

>>5646359

Maybe I will after I finish this game of mahjong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646082

I'd buy them if they had nicer covers, honestly. I might get the 1-4 for that reason, but I'll wait until 8 is released, get them all in one big boxset. And hopefully they'll be some figures out by then too, have a neat little display.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646364

*her interpretation

Not trying to imply anything...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646082

You opened the case?

I have 1-4 and I ain't taking that fucking shrinkwrap off.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

Battler being Erika's ex is the most brilliant thing I've seen on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

Nah, only Lambdadelta, Bernkastel, Jessica, Dlanor, All of the Siestas, Ange, and Mammon are lesbians.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646410
Don't forget Cornelia and Gertrude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646410
I laughed when the narration said that Jessica was attracted to Kanon FOR SOME MYSTERIOUS REASON and not any of the boys at her school.

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>>5646432
Fat fucks all of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646432

MINDFUCK: Shkannon isn't true, but Kanon is actually a girl anyway.

Even worse, Kanon is Beatrice, but not Shannon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646431
It's a one-sided crush by Cornelia, Gertrude is respect

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646404
That would make senes.

Thits too small?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646432
Well, if one popular theory prevails, she can't help it. She has Rudolf's "fuck all females" genes, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

Even back then Erika was pretty crazy. A healthy woman wouldn't collect, catalogue and list 246 (or smthng) pieces of evidence against their suspected cheating boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646492
Erika has OCD, hence the duct tape and attention to detail, it can't be helped. She's like Monk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646492

She's a super detective, can't be helped.

[Anonymous No.]

Poor Dlanor, losing her waifu. Who will she be lesbians with now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646540

They were just friend, i doubt Dlanor can feel any love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646432
I may not have sexual intercourse often, but when I do, it's with other women.

Stay fabulous, my friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646547
She's in love with her senpai and rival Wright.

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

Is there any contact information for Ryukishi07 availible? I might have to google for his mail adress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646591
http://www.07th-expansion.net/Main.htm

His has a 'Contact us' form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646591
Check the official site.

http://07th-expansion.net/

[Anonymous No.]

I've seen some theories that say Erika is Jessica.

Wut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646603

does he speak english?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646562

when was this stated

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646641

I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646641
>He

She

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646627
Because she has Jessicas old clothes?
It's most likely just some dumb shit you heard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646668
Hence my "wut", good sir.

[Anonymous No.]

You're going to tell him/her the Erika/Battler theory?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646656
>Ryukishi07
>woman

What the shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646683

That's the plan.

It's too good to waste, innit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646684

Ep VII confirmed it, he's a she and the R07 we know only poses for her.

Also, She was in love with BT, so next episode will be about Faetherine shouting "BBBBTTTTTT"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646684
Slowpoke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646690
I actually like the theory, but I hope he doesn't call us stupid in EP8, if that's not true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646710
He'll call us stupid no matter what.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the battler/erika theory?

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

>>5646710

I hope it's really sent to him. It's brilliant!

[Anonymous No.]

if Jessica is a lesbian, then who loved Battler and was hurt by him? Shannon? But Shannon already has George/Jessica...

Also, it should have been mentioned that Battler was never in a relationship. Whereas Erica clearly was in a relationship with her ex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646743
we already now that Shannon is Beatrice

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646743
Battler says in one of the early parts that he's been "playing around" with girls and hasn't been in a serious love affair. But that's only his interpretation of things. He could have thought his hypothetical fling with Erika was just casual, while Erica thought it was deathly serious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646777
>"playing around" with girls

Like father, like son.

I doubt Rudolf thought he was doing anybody harm either, when he left a trail of broken hearts behind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646777
I don't think he would call it playing around if he said I love you to the girl, which Erica's ex said and even tried to prove.

If Erica "found" Battler cheating, he'd just shrug if off with a "so what" or tell her to bug off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646743
The whole point is that Sayo is a whore.
She wants to suck George's fat cock. while Battler fucks her in the ass and Jessica licks her cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, Jessica probably doesn't know that Kanon and Shannon are the same person. Think about her phone call to Battler in Episode 4...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646807
That's because they're not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646787
From what Kyrie said Rudolf knew full well what he was doing, to the point where even she said he was a horrible person. And I still don't see Battler as the type to fuck guys and then tell them to get lost, it seemed more like he just liked flirting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646807
Jessica was clearly trolling in episode 4, but for what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646820
>And I still don't see Battler as the type to fuck guys

Me neither.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646827

Jessica's phone call is weird. From my perspective, it makes only sense if Jessica is Beatrice... but Ep 6 made it double extra super clear that Shannon is Beatrice, and Jessica probably isn't Shannon.

Maybe Shannon is Beatrice and Jessica is an accomplice for some reason. Idunno.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646827
Jessica and Kyrie discover that Sayo is fucking crazy, they realize that they're going to die, and that the only way anyone(Read: Battler) could be saved is if they get Battler to remember his sin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646827
Doubletrice was here.
Our time will come.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646844
Sayo lured Jessica into her service with promises of hot seckings.

But yeah, shit's confusing as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646858
My theory is that Jessica and Kyrie were both dying of bullet wounds, and thought it would be HILARIOUS to troll Battler just one last time.

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

Okay I wrote something, but I'd like someone to look over it before I send it, so I'll just post it here. Point out any errors or things I've forgot please.

07th Expansion のみんなへ、

まずこれは僕一人の考えたことでわありません、ネットの仲間と一緒に考え
たことです。そんの内容はバトラが古戸エリカのもっと彼氏でありますか
な

こんの判断にたどり着いた理由は次によう

バトラが自分の父のようによく女の子の心を持って遊んだことが指名されて
います
エリカのもっと彼氏は演技が好きだそうですそれでもてる男はある意味で演
技者でわありませんか
エリカはバトラのことぜんぜん気に入れないみたいです、前で付き合えた彼
氏でしたらそれも説明がつきそうです
ゲイムで言ってた通り彼女の心には深い傷がついてるそうだ、バトラと分か
れたの傷跡かもしれません、そんのせいで暴走になっていたかもしれませ
ん
ベルンカステルがエリカに青い髪を許しただと指名されています、もしかし
て分かれた後で髪を染めたかな、そんのお陰でバトラもエリカのことを認
識できないかな
エリカが傷ついたせいでバトラを追いかけて彼の近くで自殺することにした
かもしれない、これで島の近くでいることも説明官能です　（ライブじゃ
ケットを着てたことはちょっと邪魔になるんですけど）

赤い真実にはなれないんですけど、これも真実のひとつでわありませんか？

ぜひあなたの意見を聞かせてほしいです

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646924
Can you post it in english?

[Anonymous No.]

Jessica's phone call makes perfect sense if, for example, she only found out just then that Shannon and Kanon are the same person. Sayo shows up for the test but she's been in such a hurry that she slips up and is wearing Kanon's clothes or something. Jessica freaks out, and Sayo puts the gun to her head and tells her to call Battler etc.

Jessica is terrified, confused, and just CAN'T STOP LAUGHING about how absurd a development this was.

Kyrie, on the other hand, plays along but tries to put some kind of cleverly coded statement in her call to give Battler a clue to the truth of things. She might have outsmarted herself though, as Battler couldn't figure it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646943
>Sayo shows up for the test but she's been in such a hurry that she slips up and is wearing Kanon's clothes or something.
M-moe~

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646943
The issue with that is that Jessica knows she is already dead, and her speech patterns indicate that she is earnestly trying to convince Battler that magic exists.

She has no reason to lie to Battler, and she knows she's going to die, she's seen George's corpse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646924

Say something about how it makes the wedding scene more meaningful and how it connects Erika to the happenings on the island.

You know, the reasons we think this is a good idea.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

>>5646971

Yeah!

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

>>5646934

That would kind of defeat the point of finding the errors in the Japanese, but what I wrote is basically along these lines.

Dear 07th expansion,

Me and some friends from the internet came up with a theory, that is namely that Battler might be the ex-boyfriend of Erika.

The reasons for this conclusion are as follows:

Battler was said to tend to play around with women like his father
Erika's previous boyfriend was said to like theatre, and isn't playing around with girls a bit like acting?
The fact that Erika can't seem to get along with Battler at all would also be explained if they used to go out
As stated in the game Erika seems pretty deeply hurt about love, wich might be the result of breaking up with Battler, wich also might have caused her to become this paranoid
It was stated that Bernkastel granted Erika the blue hair, so maybe she dyed her hair after breaking up with Battler and that's why he doesn't recognize her
Erika might have chased Battler down and decided to kill herself close to where he was spending this weekend, wich would explain why she was so close to the island (even though the life jacket gets in the way of this part)

It might not be a red truth, but maybe this is also one of the countless truths?

We would really like to hear your opinion

>>5646971

Will do

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646440
>MINDFUCK: Shkannon isn't true, but Kanon is actually a girl anyway.
>Shannon is Beatrice

I think that is something like that.

Worse I would call this - Batller falls in love with Kannon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647007
>>5646982
>>5646971
>>5646924
Guys guys, you might be altering Umineko's truth and reality itself? >>5646965

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

Okay, I added:

結婚式のシーンの意味ももっと深くになります
即ちエリカはただの部外者でなくなりますと関係者に成り変わります

Should I send it now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647007
>Erika's previous boyfriend was said to like theatre, and isn't playing around with girls a bit like acting?

I think this is too far-fetched. Better leave this part out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647030
Of course we are.

I realized that the 'truth' was far less tangible than most people believed a long time ago.

The whole issue with the 'logic error' and Erika's retroactive changes to previous actions (and offers to Battler for him to do the same to avoid this error) made it pretty clear that the 'truth' of Rokkenjima can be anything not yet proven impossible.

Why the hell else would they have been making Schrodinger's Cat analogies in Episode 3 if not for that? Virgilia even said it in almost as many words.

It's gotten to the point that if I were inspired to write fanfiction I could probably write a convincing 'Forgery' myself in the time before Episode 7 comes out.

But what's the point? I already know whats going to happen more or less. All that remains in my mind to explain is 'How can a good resolution to these events be found in Episode 8?' There are alot of factors that are needed to avoid a tragedy in this story, many more than Higurashi.

Since Bern is the GM of Episode 7, I'm gonna guess that Erika won't be appearing. But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that her making it to the island alive is still one of those 'conditions' that is going to need to be met.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647135
I don't think there's going to be the "happy ending" we expect in Umineko: I think it's already been made. It seemed pretty clear that GM Battler only cared about putting Beato to rest, and not saving his family in a particular kakera. The resolution for all the characters appeared to have happened in ep 6, and ep 7 is really just for the readers to understand what is going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647092
Probably better to suggest that perhaps the theatre activities were a lie or exaggeration on her ex's part. She assumed it was because he was cheating.

And we all know how Battler likes to exaggerate to girls, right? Maybe he joined a drama club for a while on a whim? Maybe he played up his role in the drama club to impress her since she seemed to like watching him act. And then she caught on to his lie...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647167
You assume it is for Battler's sake that the story keeps repeating.

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

Okay I changed the acting part a little and sent it now. If I get a reply I'm gonna tell you guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647198

GODSPEED

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647198
Let's pray.

[Anonymous No.]

For some reason I bet that Battler very well could have an interest in theater, acting disregarded.
He has been explained as a rather vivid reader, and he seemed to read mostly classics.

Him going to the theater wouldn't surprise me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647295
Good point.

Further, theatre seems to be a theme pushed throughout Episode 6- We are introduced to the Witch of Theatregoing, a pair of very theatrical demons, and all of the crimes in the game were just an act (at least until Erika came along...).

Battler having an interest in theatre wouldn't come as much of a surprise after seeing the game he constructed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647327
Going even beyond that, all of Episode 6 could be said to have been theatre itself.

I've seen it suggested that Battler, the writer of that play, intentionally wrote himself into a corner he couldn't get out of to force Beato to awaken. And that his entire game was orchestrated to that effect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647295
Which brings us to the fact that Battler is VERY through when it comes to hiding his powerlevel.

Books? Lolno XD

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647434
No, I don't 'read' books. I fucking consume them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645615

Just by the existence of this alone, we have deduced that R07 is a fag. How's that, everyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645617
>obstreperous

I had to google that word.

[Anonymous No.]

Dear god, is there really going to be no good end?

Fuck man, what about Eva?

Her family died because of a shitty maid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647511
Also Ange. If we're lucky we might have Battler and/or Jessica survive, but I doubt it.

We'll just get the family "put to rest" or some shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647525
HER BROTHER WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING OUT FOR HER ALL ALONG
IT'S... A MIRACLE THAT NOBODY SAW COMING...!
EVA LET IT HAPPEN SHE IS JUSTIFIED

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647511

Fifty bucks says that in ep 7 or 8 (whichever is the last), Bernkastel is sent back to Hinamizawa or a close facsimile of it as punishment.

The "good end" of Umineko will be that the heroine of the previous series is tortured for eternity and all the characters in this series are either dead, unreal or both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647535
Too bad everyone else is dead for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647552
Well, the message of Umineko seems to be this: "Mass murder is a-ok if you fell in love with a twelve year old who you knew for like two days"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647566
Well, the final message might as well be "Love is destructive" anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647552

Bernkastel isn't Rika. Bernkastel is some kind of a mental cancerous growth on Rika, made entirely out of cynicism, despair and hate. She's what Rika had to leave behind to return to her normal self in the last episode.

I have no idea what Lambda's deal is though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647621
Lambda didn't play on the Higurashi game board, even though she might have been born from Miyoko. It should be noted that Lambda existed long before Higurashi.

That game board was entirely the culprit versus Rika, and was 'created' by Aurora who lost the initial idea along the way - and apparently, it seems to continue until now.
Saigoroshi was something like reboot of the game from AuAu's perspective, I guess. Hanyuu realized what was she actually supposed to do and turned dead serious after she realized that she actually let Rika win.

[Anonymous No.]

My god, I can't believe I fell for this shit twice. Fucking Erika, even if she has a bad past or whatever she's still a fucking bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647678
Why would Hanyuu be upset at Rika winning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647678
>Lambda didn't play on the Higurashi game board
You sure about that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647692

My rule of thumb is that any sob story offered can only explain a villain's behavior - never excuse it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647701
I am not sure because of the single sentece about her placing all of those her pieces on her sides, but I am going from the TIP where she says that she gave the power to eventually become a god to a certain girl (Hanyuu, might as well be Miyoko), that girl 'created a new witch and sent her to her', but she never saw her again until she met Beato. I guess she WOULD notice if she played such an endless game with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647770
Then why did Battler make episode 6 in Beatrice's favor?

Like, I was pumped in episode 5, I thought that Beatrice, whoever she was, didn't commit the murders.

And yet she did. I won't mourn Beatrice when she kicks the bucket, for hopefully the final time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647803
I don't think episode 6 was meant for us to feel warm and fuzzy.

For example, Kanon's love towards Jessica comes across as really jarring and scary. Beatrice's love towards Battler feels downright obsessive, and Shannon's love towards George is ruined by the fact that she herself knows that they won't get married.

Even the faux-ending, with the family happy, and Kanon "rewarded" really felt like something more sinister.

Battler is living in a fantasy, but things simply can't remain that way. People died a pointless and tragic death, and that is the truth of all things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647552
Would she be forced to engage in wacky antics for all eternity?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647834
Kanon and Shannon's duel did it for me.

That bitch is crazy, and needs to be put down.

[Anonymous No.]

So which one is the real scenario ?
I think its an event where only Eva survived but it isn't "Turn".

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647834 episode 6 was meant for us to feel warm and fuzzy.
wat
It was very depressive at first, very creepy after that, very depressive again, and in the end "this is certainly a lot of awesome there, but why do I have the feeling that I am getting trolled by accepting scenes that are completely fantasy, when Beato could earlier even make an illusion that she doesn't exist without much trouble only to show Battler that he SHOULD NEVER BELIEVE THIS SHIT AGAIN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647878
I said I don't think that.

Even the ending with Battler getting married to Beatrice feels off.

I'm almost thinking the main character is Ange at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647873
Well, let's think about it like this: Hachijou Tohya might pretty well be Asumu. Asumu, for some reason, knows what happened.
The first bottle stories, which are supposed to be original, are altering reality, because Eva survived. Only Banquet is getting close.

Why not just accept that Asumu had everyone killed somehow and then wrote all of those stories herself?

'19 years is the time it took to write this tale'

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647871
This. The duel was the most awesome thing there, so... why have I hoped for Kanon to win? Why is Shannon such an unsympatic character when Jessica is even more suspicious than her and I am still hoping that she is in fact a fucking awesome culprit?

Well, Kanon and Erika shouldn't have died, but at least they went both with a bang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5646263
What are these 4koma called? I looked on /rs/ for "umineko 4koma" but they only had the old ones and i assume that the one who made them made even more

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647960
It's quite simple. Jessica was one of the few characters who didn't go with the flow in episode 6, at least intially. Everything else felt... creepy and unnatural.

Shannon's first dialogue with Kanon is perhaps the scariest thing ever.

It's like she's mindraping Kanon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647978

Search for "rifyu".

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647978
Rifyu
READ IT ALL NOW FAGGOT
OBTAIN FAT GEORGE

[Anonymous No.]

Where is Umineko EP6 stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647998
>>5648000
fuck yes i love you guys

[Anonymous No.]

Kanon: I LUV U MILADY <<<<<<<3
Jessica: Well, for some shitty reason other than your lack of penis i love you to, let's date to see where this go--

Kanon: NO MILADY WE HAVE TO KILL TO PROVE OUR LOOOOOOOOOVE, LET'S GO !

Jessica: WAIT WHAT ?! What the tits were you smoking ? FINE GEEZ..

Episode 6 - Dawn of the Golden Witch

[Anonymous No.]

Shannon in this episode was fucking creepy. I think she's starting to reveal her true personality.

After all "This is not a hint, but a confession."

[Anonymous No.]

>>5647960

I don't think Shannon is that unsympathetic. People just think she's crazy DID maid and don't look at anything else. Like everyone talked about how she was so horrible to Maria in the duel, when all she did was protect Kanon and squash Maria. It was pretty tame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648055
Yep.
That's pretty much it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648055
>i love you to
No, she was like, 'I kinda like you and I WANT to fall in love with you but I'm unable to think of a reason'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648068
>People just think she's crazy DID maid and don't look at anything else.

I really cannot think of anything that would excuse her killing these people the way they are killed. Not unless there's a hidden rape dungeon somewhere on Rokkenjima and the Ushiromiyas have collectively kept her there for the past six years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648092
Fuck yeah rape dungeons

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648096

Is there a problem they _don't_ solve?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648092

Wouldn't put past Kinzo.

Though it's not an excuse. I think there is something more there though. Shannon is not shown to be unsympathetic and Beato is damn near shown to be a hero for the most part. Something isn't adding up here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648126

There's also a lot of stuff that isn't seemingly used anywhere... Stuff from Kyrie's past, Rosa's past, the allusion that Kyrie is somehow supported by Lambda... The thing Ange saw in the future in the tatami shop... they can't all be red herrings, can they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648126
I have a little bit of hope based on Ange and Featherine also pointing out that shit is weird, especially with Beato, but EP6 bothered me in general in the way it seemed like it had a raging boner for all the creepy-ass shit it presented about ~the power of love~.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648183

I think that was just Ange being in denial her brother was in love with someone she hates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648055
Yeah. I used to hate Jessica, but goddamn, if episode 6 is the most accurate reflection of the characters she's one of my favorites now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648216
I still find it odd that she doesn't quite love Kanon like Battler and George love their waifus.

I find it oddly refreshing, and I'm glad we have at least one person on the island who has a mature approach to love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648020
While we are at it, how much true is that Ryu is drawing these himself? I heard he confirmed it in an interwiew, but...

>>5648060
Well, in mystery novels, the strangest shit happens during confessions after all.

[Anonymous No.]

You all thought i was crazy for calling ange's bodyguard the bad guy who killed her.. WELL WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?! AHAHAHAHAH.. Poor ange burger ;___;.

[Anonymous No.]

Read between the lines. IT WASN'T AN ACT WITH ERIKA. THAT WAS A SAVE FACE.

How much clearer could r07 make it? Fucking shit. Bern let her get erased just like she said she would, wasn't even there for her final moments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648255
That's why I think there is something more to this, and despite episode 6 being "confessions", we have to be missing something major.

Jessica is attracted to Kanon, but she acknowledges that it is an attraction, she really isn't madly in love with him. An ending that would have her with him for eternity feels bad. It isn't true love, it could become something like that, but Jessica wanted time for the relationship to grow, time she would not be allowed.

Episode 6 could very well be a brutal deconstruction on love. In the very least, it showed me that Beatrice is a dangerous and immature romantic.

A game without love is exactly what we need, but knowing Bernkastel she'll miss the point too.

There needs to be a happy medium, and I'm hoping Ange finds it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648285

No, Erika was a bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648324
Of course she is.

That doesn't change she was severely fucked if battler didn't take pity on her. It also doesn't change the fact Bern forced her into not using detective authority. It doesn't change the fact she had to come up with a plan to try and win that game without it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648255

I don't think it's strange. It's pretty realistic. She barely knows Kanon (obviously) and wants to take that step to get to know him and fall in love. She's also not very open with her feelings for the most part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648345
No, I know it's realistic. That's precisely what's odd with it.

The other relationships are fucking crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648341

Well, yes but that doesn't make her that sympathetic to me. She's still a murdering crazy bitch who fucked with everyone. She tried to save herself and couldn't. Good try, but too bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648365
Let's see what you do with Bern as a master.

She's the most pitiable character in the series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648379
Difference between her and Beato.

Erika kills to keep herself alive, Beato kills because she's fucking crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648379
She was picked out by Bern because she had already shown herself to be a crazy bitch who only cared about the cold hard truth. You can pity her but that doesn't excuse anything she does.

[Anonymous No.]

Erika with Rudolf?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648379

No, she's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648394
>Erika kills to keep herself alive, Beato kills because she's fucking crazy.

What?

I don't even understand how you've come to these conclusions.

Erika and Beato are both not killing anyone. That's the entire point of the series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648409
I only care about the cold hard truth at this point.

We're not dealing with someone who just used magic to prank people and entertain small children, we're dealing with a mass murdering psycho.

Damn right I want the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648394

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648445
That's nice, care to indulge me on how I'm wrong? If all the episodes reflect the truth of what happened on that island, and if Shkanontrice is true, guess what?

She killed everyone!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648434

You are a little too worked up about this to be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

Clarifying this for myself because I think it's fucking stupid.

Everything we've read until now has been FUCKING FICTION?! what the fuck is that?!

I have only just now reached the first twilight and I am already pissed off at R07.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648465
Shut up, it's deep.

[No.]

Is there anything I can do to fix this?
It just freezes on loading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648474
NO, that isn't deep. It's fucking stupid. Worse than "it was aaaaaall a dream"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648478
>>5648465

Here
>>5646254

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648465

Of course it is, did you think Umineko was real?

[Anonymous No.]

All im getting from this is MAGIC CHEEEEEEEESE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648465
Someone clearly doesn't understand this series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648550

The Magic cheese was a small exercise in thinking out of the box and using the words of the game against it's self. Or, in other words, actually taking things at face value and USING it to win instead of twisting nothingness into a solid attack.

Probably. Maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

So let me get this straight.
Some red passages count Shkanon as 2 seperated people, but then we have the large amount of white/troll text stating otherwise.
I DON'T KNOW IN WHAT TO BELIEVE.

[Anonymous No.]

>Umineko
>Mystery Novel
Mystery Novels usually stick to realistic logic.
The multiple personality thing would never work in a court room, and no lawyer would be able to go "But your honor, my client wasn't in the closet! Personality X was!".
And while court rooms may not be that common, detectives are and they play by the same rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648478
The episodes are similar to presenting possibilities of what the inside of the Cat Box could have been. Episode 6 talked about the concept of multiple truths existing and this is something that applies to the entire series in my opinion. The events on the island have been shown to play out in different ways but the final "result" is that everyone is dead in most cases.

Unless you accept that magic is real on Rokkenjima then you have already known that most things that you see are fiction.
I can't really decide how real the ideas of kakera and the meta-world are in Ryu07's world so I will stop there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648596
The culprit is mysterious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648596
Though it can still be a good novel, it's just isn't really a proper mystery novel.

The inclusion of Knox's guidlines felt kind of off though considering it isn't a real one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648584
Seperate people, 1 body.
Multiple Personalities.

What didn't you get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5645717
You know, authors really hate it when you think X character is based on them for various reasons. Featherine clearly has some R07 traits, but she's also her own character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648596
Actually, they can plead that in court. It's called pleading insanity.

[Anonymous No.]

Erika is so mean to her waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648648
He would be exceedingly naive to write a character like that and says the things she does and not expect people to think she's an insert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648658
Well yes, but it doesn't change much other than the final sentence.

You know, forced mental care due to insanity instead of prison.
I'ts also why the insanity card is rarely played, simply because it's not a way out more as it just lessens the punishment slightly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648664
Some of her is taken from R07 and she is used to speak R07's thoughts, but that doesn't mean you can go and say everything about Featherine reflects him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648686
I agree but the point is that he should have known that people would think of her like that and he still wrote her that way. Not to mention it's hard to tell what exactly is the character and what's his own opinion, considering that he trolls his audience even without her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648684
But in the case that they really are insane and have multiple personalities, some personalities will be innocent while others will be guilty. The difference is in notion really. Prison is for people who sanely did wrong. Mental hospitals for the criminally insane are people who are insane and dangerous because of it. I bet Battler thinks he can stop murders from occurring and bring a sane Beatrice off the gameboard in the form of Sayo. He probably would have done that in the 6th game if Erika didn't start killing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648686
Her comments about the readers are obviously from R07's mouth though.
Same for Lambda's comment about the mystery people in episode 5 or Beatrice comment about the device of the last closed room.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648705
See, the issue with Shkanontrice is that ALL the personas ARE guilty.

That's what the duel told us, Shannon, Kanon, and Beatrice all want to open the golden land.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648549
>>5648542
>>5648560
Here is my reasoning for disliking this turn of events;

The most important part of Umineko to me is the characters. And now, all the connection I felt towards them has been completely shattered. I could enjoy Battler's exploits and was waiting for an explanation as to why things were going on from HIS mouth. But now, all he and the rest of the characters are are phantoms with minds and pasts easily changed by the hand of another character inside the story. Everything that happened until now is bullshit, even if she is "trying to show us what REALLY happened by showing us what DIDN'T happen", it's a dick move and at this point I'd rather have had it all be fantasy and for Battler to lose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5648909

But it was said that the things that AuAu wrote had the same names as EPs 3 to 6, but it was also said that Auau's EP 3 showed Eva escape to Kuwadorian, while Ryukishi's EP 3 didn't show us what happened after Battler's death.

So maybe she wrote similar stories in Ange's world, but they aren't the same stories that we have been reading.

Also, what is so different between"everything after EP 3 is fictional" and "everything occurs in differents universes/kakeras/etc"?

[Anonymous No.]

Bernkastel will be the one to do what Battler should have done. She will bring a cruel justice, and she will have fun with it. I believe in her, I'm on her side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649006
The fact that someone is MAKING them up is what's different. Picking out a kakera and showing those events is completely different from someone making up their own world.

[Anonymous No.]

How can anyone stand this horrible writing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649073
Your taste is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

The simple fact that the logical error exist in Umineko proves that that the fiction theory is true anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649066

But what if she is Asumu or a survivor from the island, telling the massive amounts of events she saw in the island in her 3 stories?

Actually, disregard that, I just remembered what happened to her in the ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649100
I'm just going to read the rest of the episode now.

I am supposed to "trust" R07 after all... Hope he doesn't let me down further.

[Anonymous No.]

Ahahaha, oh wow.

I JUST got to this part, and went to /jp/ to post a screen of it. Damn guys, get out of my mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649110
She's quoting her boyfriend

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649094
Magic exists outside of the gameboard. Though Ange mentions two types of magic, there's actually the existence of real, non-illusion magic.

Battler recognized that real magic exists at the start or at the middle of EP5.

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>5649119

When the fuck did she have a boyfriend? Who in their right mind would want her to begin with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649141
Someone clearly didn't read EP6.

[Anonymous No.]

Do they get through the whole epitaph in ep 6? first twilight just came around and I'm wondering how much more reading I've got to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649141
Because she, after all, is a mary sue, which means she's perfect, she must be a popular and extrovert girl that managed to confess to a guy, but her obsessive behaviour with hew boyfriend and finding the truth terminated that relationship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649179
Last time I checked, Mary Sue's don't have an abusive master and don't die a horrible death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649141
>Who in their right mind would want her to begin with?

See >>5646035 but prepare to get (falsely?) spoiled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649141
I'd take Erika. I'd assume that pre-NTR, she was an okay gal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649298
Except being ugly and 8 years old looking

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649317
>Erika
>Ugly
I think she's cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649317
>8 years old looking
Why is this a problem?

[～(￣∇￣～) !NACK.rrrr. No.]

>>5649110
For some reason when she started quoting random lines it just made me laugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649331
Cause that things is barely grown up.
It's one thing to have young girls and another tiny kids it does not even fit in.

[Anonymous No.]

She looks like she's 14, confirmed by everyone on the island and Battler said it.

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>5649159

That doesn't change the fact that she's an unlikeable fuck who nobody in their right mind would touch with a 10 foot pole.

Maybe it's just that I don't like her for being Bern's canon slave.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

>>5649317

[Anonymous No.]

Erika is a good girl.

[～(￣∇￣～) !NACK.rrrr. No.]

>>5649383
dat face

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649383
Just use her wedding dress version, you can see them better there.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

>>5649377

I like Erika.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care that she was quoting her old boyfriend, Erika/Dlanor for fucking life.

[～(￣∇￣～) !NACK.rrrr. No.]

>>5649392
Whatever, ryu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649393
>>5649110
>>5645575
I capped all of these.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

>>5649399

I think I made that before we ever saw the weddng dress.

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>5649400

Well, I find Erika and Lambda both unlikeable, and not because of the fact that they take Bern away from me.

Lambda seems to be trying too hard at acting cute and I really wish she would drop the playful act more often and show her true colors.

Erika is just a horrible bitch who isn't really good at the whole cruelty thing. She's living in Bern's shadow.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

>>5649426

Oh, in reply to people who suggested 'corset' for the wedding dress, actually. I forgot.

[～(￣∇￣～) !NACK.rrrr. No.]

>>5649419
I need to cap furfur and zepar's faces, they are reaction image material.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

The only thing I don't like about Erika is her 3 hairstyles in one.
>long bangs
>not completely short hair
>twintails
Just let those twintails down and be Bern, I can't process all at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>5649437

Everything R07 does usually is. The only person who can make better reaction faces is Rifyu.

[Anonymous No.]

I liked Lambda more this episode. She seemed like a bro and I was able to sympathize with her.

I would have been able to sympathize with Bern but she's turned up the bitchiness as of late.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

>>5649492

I've never cared for her very much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649492

The part where Lambda throws the popcorn to intercept Dlanors attack was truely amazing.
When we were streaming it with ATLAS right after it came out chat went fucking crazy when Dlanor picked up that piece of popcorn.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

One more bit for those who think Battler may be Erika's ex...

"Her family says that she might have drifted to Rokkenjima and gotten involved in that accident." when you execute Piece Erika in the TIPS. Plus it makes some sense why she'd slit the throats in the 1st Twilight... Because she's nuts and vengeful.

[Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL No.]

>>5650314

So, how would they know or suspect such a thing? Erika going to Rokkenjima, unless she had a motive and she told them. Maybe a suicide note?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5649492

Bern spent the question arcs as a mysterious, detached background figure, but in the answer arcs she dove headfirst into batshit insane random sadistic villainy and never looked back.

Basically she took the villain role that old Beato used to have, and it appears that there's a retcon coming that all of oldBeato's cruelty was somehow Bern's doing. See pic.

I'm okay with this. If they want to make Beato/Sayo/??? sympathetic, the first thing they need to do is wash her of guilt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5650990

By shoving it onto one of the most loved characters in VN(and possible animu)... seems kind of cruel.

Also the Bern isn't Rika is bullshit, all those are fan theories. It hasn't been outright confirmed, but insanely heavily implied. Nowhere has anyone mentioned that Bernkastel is some kind of entity Rika "threw away".

Also, in Higurashi, when she's lamenting about her hopping from kakera to Kakera, she's drinking wine and comments "... I'm not Rika anymore. I'm the wine."

Bernkastel is a region famous for it's wine. Do the math.