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[ Ar Tonelico ]

New Ar Tonelico thread. The last one (>>5490295) 404'd before we could make a new one. (I was away from home. No, really.)

Download the 4Chan Sounds greasemonkey script to hear the music embedded in the image file.

This time, it's Waterway ~ MIO, which did not actually feature in any of the games, and was instead a Hymmnos CD exclusive track (Concert Side Blue, to be exact). Performed by Akiko Shikata. Enjoy.

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Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8M7BH61Q
or
http://www.mediafire.com/?kmdynigynny

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer + plugins + bios. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

AT3 Artbook - http://www.mediafire.com/?jrm2mg22mkx


Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_4

Latest Toukousphere Translation:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_94

Toukousphere 95 is supposedly done/being done.

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COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

>> No.5546112

In before: Luca's a whore and a slut, AT belonging on /v/, Sion asspain, someone condemning EP=NOVA/CUTYPUMP as the worst songs ever made, Ha-Halloween.m3u, Clouche vs. Luca, coconaaaa... etc, etc., and all the usual stuff.

>> No.5546127

>>5546101
Figured someone would eventually do that.

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>>5546086

Oh hey, my favourite track on the AT2 hymmnos albums. It really should have been in the game, it sounds awesome.

>>5546101

Well played.

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Could someone summarize the story of Infel's life? Or just an outline is enough.

Thanks in advance.

>> No.5546188

Thanks for reminding me that I should prepare all of my 3 posts beforehand next time instead of only 2. Though right now I could care less as it's past midnight and I've been out all day.

In before
>/jp/
>Excursion outdoors
>extraordinarilyamusedladies.tiff

>> No.5546378

>>5546178
Infel: Love?
World: NO.
Infel: Well fuck you too.

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Obligatory.

>>5546378

To be fair she had good ideals, she just went about it the wrong way. The way of uniting the world is not to kill everyone, or in this case separating every soul in Ar Ciel from their bodies, in order to purify the land and bring about peace. It's actually a pretty fucked up way of thinking, to be honest. Regardless I still love listening to EXEC_over._METHOD_SUBLIMATION/.~omness chs ciel sos infel simply because it's sounds so soothing and peaceful despite the lyrics/purpose of the song. I got goosebumps hearing it the first time while I was playing AT2.

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>>5547175
Well, she was an orphan in the slums who got picked up by Grammul at random one day, thrust into government research (good) and ass-kissing (bad), and on the day of she had all the IPDs reject her Metafalica attempt because, lathough she was working all-out to realize that dream, she was doing it for INFEL AND NENESHA, and not selflessly doing it for THEM, which apparently makes HER a huge bitch for some reason, and she was terrified of having them look into her mind in the first place. As a direct result of that rejection she gets to watch Raki, having just blazed through a bunch of Grand Bell troops, walk up to them with the blood-stained hair of their personal guard (one of the two people who seems to actually give a damn about Infel) wrapped around her foot and proceed to plunge her arm deep into the chest of the other person. I suppose that would turn you a little cynical and messed up.

>>5546086
95 is as done as it's going to be for a while (I'm not sure what to do with this Infel Breeze right now).

>> No.5548357

>>5547382

I personally knew her circumstances but my point still stands. No matter what fucked up events have happened to her in the past that's no excuse for trying to justify 'sublimation' of the entire planet if she truly wanted to obtain peace. The fucked up thing is that it would have occurred a few years later anyway if nobody had stepped in.

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>>5548357
I don't disagree it was wrong. It's just, it's too tragic.

The death of the planet would have been much more violent than that. It's in technical data room 3, but basically the planet explodes if you don't do AT3 true end.

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>>5549577

Tragic or not the result would still be the same, sadly. Although would the will of the planet still be pissed to continue the destruction of the planet if everyone was sublimated? Cos then that's just a kick in the teeth for Infel and Nenesha.

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Spoilers! Spoilers everywhere!

Also, can this be a GUST General thread, too? I'm curious about Atelier Rorona, but it looks like it has very heavy time and crafting management, with the combat part minor, and I wonder if that might turn me off a bit (time limits in games are a weakness of mine, especially when you have to do a certain amount of tasks in a certain, acceptable way before time's up). Then again, the only Atelier game I played was Atelier Iris 1, which was more of a traditional RPG with mostly optional alchemy.

>> No.5552970

>TDCR Issue 4
>Just as you've said, the only reason why all those characters are female is because I thought it'd be better that way.
>And, honestly, there were also very strong marketing implications to this decision.

Smart guy.

>> No.5552981

>>5552424
We have discussed plenty of other GUST games in the past, so yeah, no problems.

>> No.5553004

>>5552981
Well, this an AT thread, changing it is not advisable.
And lacking GALGE traits invites butthurt trolls.

>> No.5553122

>>5553004
Well, this is a mainly AT thread-I think it's fine to have some minor discussions of the other GUST games as long as we keep AT as our main focus.

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>>5553004

Whilst it's mainly an AT thread we still discuss other Gust games, especially with Rorona coming soon and Totori just released.

>> No.5554217

>DLC
>Binary World
>tsundere and dorodere packs

Oh, Gust. I love you.

>> No.5554228

>dorodere
I'm 12 and what is this?

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New AT player from the previous thread here.
Shurelia sure is disappointing so far.
What exactly is her appeal?

>> No.5554244

>>5554228
>Dorodere: a new term for a character who’s dorodoro on the inside (messed up and disturbed), but deredere on the outside (sweet and affectionate). This term seems to have been coined particularly to describe Luca Truelywaath of GUST

>> No.5554249

As long as the subject of the thread haven't been changed I will report this thread every time.

>> No.5554250

>>5554242
A moe Frankenstein.

>>5554228
Energetic but emotionally disturbed girl. Think Minori from Toradora.

>> No.5554265

>>5554249
Sup, sion. Still asspained?

>> No.5554268

>>5554242
Flatness

>> No.5554290

>>5554244
Doesn't that, like, apply to a lot of introverts/characters that fake happiness in a lot of works? Or does Luca have something that sets her apart?

>> No.5554294

>>5554290
It's one thing to just not reveal your true feelings and being a spiteful person with nugh0crippling problems.

>> No.5554306

>>5554294
Doesn't this imply they're not spiteful? Anyway, I guess this applies for a lot of characters. Like Shiki Misaki in TWEWY, for a VG example.

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>>5554242

Clumsy, shy and tsundere moe. Deliciously flat too. Did you really need to ask?

>> No.5554312

>>5554306
It's not like Luca is the FIRST EVER PERSON with such traits.
They just coined a term for the particular mix and scale.
Other characters will apply retro-actively too
If you play, you will understand what their point.

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>>5554265

His asspain is eternal.

>> No.5554457 [DELETED] 

>>5554311
Well, ok, I can get understand the "flat" part.
It's just... her traits don't really work to combine into an interesting personality, in my opinion. She's just sort of... bland. And diving into her was hella disappointing.
Eh, it's a matter of individual taste, I guess.

On another note, I just discovered I can casually turn Misha back into a loli, which made me rather pleased.

>> No.5554487

>>5554311
Well, ok, I can understand the "flat" part.
It's just... her traits don't really work to combine into an interesting personality, in my opinion. She's just sort of... bland. And diving into her was hella disappointing.
Eh, it's a matter of individual taste, I guess.

On another note, I just discovered I can casually turn Misha back into a loli, which made me rather pleased.

>> No.5554786 [DELETED] 

>>5554487
You are playing undub, right?

>> No.5554795

>>5554487
Nobody loves Shurelia.
More than the other two at least

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>>5554795

I do.

>> No.5554888

Just bought the first AT off amazon for £45. Tried to emulate it but I was getting 10 FPS and it was unbearable. I'm thinking of choosing Misha for my first playthrough.

>> No.5555016

>>5554888

$45? You could get it for £20-25 last I checked.

>> No.5555018

>>5554888
A shame you're not going to play At1 using videofix by mugi, which has subs instead of crappy dubs for the anime cut scenes.

>> No.5555055

>>5555016
The closest vidya shop here has both 1 and 2 for 9.99€. The pal version.

>> No.5555077

>>5555016
AT1 never got released in the UK, only a small amount of copies were sent to France, Italy and whatnot, so it costs more.

>> No.5555095

>>5555077

I know it wasn't but I still purchased a PAL AT1 and AT2 a while back. £20 for AT1 and £15 for AT2, if I recall correctly. They aren't even opened since I emulated both games.

>> No.5555099

>>5555095
Ah well, I always seem to have bad luck at getting cheap games. The price will just make it all the more delicious.

>> No.5555146

>>5555077
There's also the fact that at this point they're pretty much trying to make whatever money they can off those games because they think no one gives a crap anymore. In the same shop, for the same price, there's Disgaea 2, Mana Khemia(limited edition), Soul Nomad, Makai Kingdom, Odin Sphere, Grimgrimoire, Wild Arms 4 and 5, Atelier Iris 1-2-3, and more stuff I don't really care about and as don't remember.

>> No.5555683

>>5555146

Damn, that sounds awesome. You could probably buy some of those and flog them off on Amazon or whatever for a considerable profit.

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>>5555146
Did Wild Arms 3 get released there?

It's my all time favorite game on PS2.

>> No.5558173

>>5558070
Yeah, but that one seems to be pretty rare. I do have a copy myself, tho.

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>> No.5560136

>>5559072

Why must you remind me every thread? ;_;

>> No.5561074

>>5559072
Damn it all, I know I could upscale that if I took the time, but I don't want to spend the time. bleh.

>> No.5561087

luca is a whore and a slut

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>>5561087
Still more deeper and complex than any AT3 character

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>>5561087
You gay, Jonesy.

Luca is tons of fun; she would let you do anything in her cosmosphere.

>> No.5561175

>>5561150
She's literally a prostitute, ZUN.

>> No.5561202

>>5561175
mhm. sure.

>> No.5561207

>>5561202
She lets people mind sex with her for money.

>> No.5561221

>>5561207
You'd be wrong, but you aren't going to be convinced anyway.

>> No.5561241

>>5561221
Even the other ar tonelicos think Dive Therapy is a filthy profession.

>> No.5561273

>>5561241
>other ar tonelicos
Ugh...And that is CLoche only.

>> No.5561378

>>5561207
You're talking about that other slut that works with her. When I read her profile before I played AT2 I thought you were going to have the ability to have mindsex with her.

Goddammit. ;_;

>> No.5561383

>>5561378
Diving is a euphemism for sex in Ar Tonelico

>> No.5561490

WHEN THE FUCK WILL THIS SERIES ALONG WITH MANA KHEMIA 2 PORT IN PSP GODDAMN YOU ATLUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oh boy, here we go again.

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>>5554487
I kind of agree. I really like Shurelia, but I think on the whole I find her more amusing than interesting. I would hate to spend 700 years watching Sol Ciel's tragedies, though ...

>>5562949
Oh man, that looked like a Gusutufau picture from the thumbnail. I'm going to spend the next hour crying myself to sleep now. Thanks.

>> No.5563394

Hoi

Ik ben op zoek naar informatie over de <a href=http://www.totale-bodyscan.nl>totale body scan</a>, zit erover te denken om zo'n <a href=http://www.totale-bodyscan.nl>bodyscan</a> te laten doen.

Natuurlijk vind ik wel de sites van alle<a href=http://www.totale-bodyscan.nl> total bodyscan</a> aanbieders, maar die informatie lijkt me niet echt unbiased.

Heeft iemand ervaring met het doen van een<a href=http://www.totale-bodyscan.nl> total body scan</a>? Wat vond je van de <a href=http://www.totale-bodyscan.nl>bodyscan</a>? Hoe waren de resultaten?

Alle informatie is van harte welkom!

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>>5563383

You're more than welcome.

>> No.5564279

I don't know how long these threads will keep comming, but I'm still downloading guys :D i'll join you in about a week or two :D

>> No.5564512

OKay, I have a problem with both games emulating in pcsx2.
I can emulate them well, but background images and CGs are kind of 'split'. The right half is on the left and the other way around. Any help?

>> No.5564718

>>5564512

Have you downloaded the latest graphics plugin + PCsx2.exe from the website? The pack in the OP is outdated. Updating fixed any bugged textures for me.

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...and I'm(more or less) done Ar Tonelico I.
Took me almost exactly 50 hours(last save at 49 hours 48 minutes), and I still haven't 100%-ed it(the things I could without doing the other path, that is) - but after spending some 7 hours yesterday grathmelding, making money, recrystallizing and grinding for items, I decided to get it over with.
So, was it a good game?
...not really. Story wasn't that great, some interesting characters were poorly developed, the pacing was bad, and the gameplay was really horrible in some aspects.
Did I enjoy it?
Every single second of it. Even when it made me mad.
It's a game with a soul, and the kind of innocence that's long gone from western rpgs.
And it has Misha.
Pretty much only single thing that annoyed by the end was that Lyner never expressed any kind of feelings towards Misha(whose path I vehemently followed) - even when the time came to choose between her and Shurelia, he only motivated his decision by "I promised to go with her". Between this and his actions earlier it felt like Misha was stuck in one-sided relationship with him. There really was a serious lack of any kind of emotional conclusion to their relationship. For a game with such an amount of sexual innuendo, I expected at least a kiss at the end.

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>>5564777

>> No.5564811

>>5564777
That's one of the reasons people half-jockingly say AT1's canon route is an harem one.
Lyner never shows any particular affection to any of the heroines, beside being close friends, so most likely he just ends up in the middle of a 3way catfight without a clue on what's going on.
If it makes you feel better, in AT2 Croix declares his love pretty early in the game.

>> No.5564816

>>5564718
Yeah, my pcsx2 is the latest version downlaoded from the website. I can't take a snapshot, but it's really weird.

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>>5564811

>most likely he just ends up in the middle of a 3way catfight without a clue on what's going on

They all want knocked up, even Shurelia who can't. I kind of pity Lyner.

>> No.5564828

>>5564816

And your plugins are definitely up to date? If so then try switching the graphics plugin around. ZeroGS and GSdx work fine for me but GSdx had some texture problems in AT1 so a simple switch was all that was needed until I updated my graphics plugins.

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>>5564828
tried all of them already. Snap of my problem.

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Oh, fuck, I want a Jakuri towel.

>> No.5564843

>>5564835
Good lord that problem is OLD.
Are you sure you're using the latest beta ?

>> No.5564846

>>5564843
quite sure, 0.9.6 was the latest one on the web.

>> No.5564859

>>5564846
You need to use the SVN. The beta, not the 'latest' stable release you get from the main website.

>> No.5564860

>>5564846
http://pcsx2.net/downloads.php?p=publicbeta

>> No.5564862

>>5564842
Goddammit though; they're all sold out, as well as Clouche and Luca(!) towels.

Finnel and Saki towels are still available though. $50, eyugh.

>> No.5564865

>>5564846

That's the stable release, get the new beta.

http://pcsx2.googlecode.com/files/pcsx2-r3113-setup.exe

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On the topic of merchandise, there's a mug that purges finnel/saki when you pour something hot in it.

>> No.5564873

>>5564803
>>5564811
I'm just going to assume Misha jumped his bones the first night they spent alone away from others after going on their little band tour.
It fits her personality, and it's not like it's without precedence.

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>>5564872

Awesome. I'm still interested in this fig even though I dislike Cloche.

>> No.5564891

>>5564860
>>5564865
>>5564859
thanks, it works now.

>> No.5564902

>>5564777
>For a game with such an amount of sexual innuendo, I expected at least a kiss at the end.

This.

The AT series is pretty much one of the biggest cockteases ever. You dive into the deepest parts of your girl's brain and uncover her deepest secrets and thoughts, fight a gigantic amount of monsters with her help, and even (effectively) marry her at the end of her cosmosphere.

There's so much innuendo about installing, diving, downloading, therapy, inserting the life-extending agent, etc, but do you ever get any actual or implied action? Even a kiss?

No.

>> No.5564926 [DELETED] 

>>5564902
I think I can understand why they didn't push it too far, while they were aiming to provide fanservice too much of it would've covered the other aspects of the game.
Like people would be talking about how bordeline porno it is instead of its soundtrack or its setting if they put kisses scenes and sex fadeouts.

>> No.5564930

>>5564902
I think I can understand why they didn't push it too far, while they were aiming to provide fanservice too much of it would've covered the other aspects of the game.
Like people would be talking about how bordeline porno it is instead of its soundtrack or its setting if they put kisses scenes and sex fadeouts.
ie. see mass effect on /v/.

>> No.5564965

>>5564930
Mass Effect is /v/'s galge, except it's not a galge because all the women are ass-ugly (Read: 3D). The only redeeming woman in that game was Tali, mostly because I couldn't see her face, but even that was a bit ruined by them glowing eyes. I personally kept to myself during my playthrough.

/v/ is full of sex-crazed virgins anyways.

Then again, we are too.

>> No.5565307

>>5564718
>>5564816
>>5564860
>>5564865
etc.

lazy pack needs an update

I should try out the AT games one of these days. Other than 3D Dot Game Heroes (which I've been neglecting) and Hexyz Force, I don't have much to play at the moment. I was playing Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love for a long time and while I liked the game even I started getting burnt out for replaying the game over and over again to get all the heroines' scenes and endings (and I still have 2 more to go).

>> No.5565329

>>5564902
>There's so much innuendo about installing, diving, downloading, therapy, inserting the life-extending agent, etc
I do believe I am somewhat puzzled as to the meaning of your assertions, good sir.

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>>5565329

If you say so.

>> No.5565374

>>5565329

S'up, Shirou.

>> No.5566375

>>5564930
You're talking like it isn't borderline porno, and that isn't what people talk the most all the time.

>> No.5566381

>>5565307
Trinity Universe is just out and it's pretty good so far for me, if you need something to play.

>> No.5566492

>>5566381

I've been thinking of that but I'm broke. Also, I meant to say to emulate AT (which is why I mentioned the lazy pack).

>> No.5567978

>>5566381
Did you find Cross Edge enjoyable? Care to tell why you like Trinity Universe and why you find it fun?

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Infel's puns in Toukousphere 51 actually made me laugh.. I suddenly feel dirty.

>> No.5568154

Why are Shurelia and Mir so perfect?

>> No.5568642

>>5568154
For Shurelia at least: If you had to manufacture the little girl, wouldn't you make her perfect?

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>>5568642

Scientists with billions of dollars to spend certainly know their tastes. I salute them for bringing such perfect beings into the world.

>> No.5569005

>>5568978

By the time the real world produce beings like them, we'd be long dead. :(

>> No.5569111

>>5569005

I'm fine with this simply because I don't want them to defile my 2D waifus by making them 3D.

>> No.5569340

>>5569005
Maybe... Maybe. However, I figure I've got about 80 years left in me, so I just have to ask myself: Could anyone in the 1930s have even imagined modern life? I'm not saying it's likely, but don't write it off just yet.

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>>5569340

Well who knows what can happen but with the worlds economy being as it is and so many places like schools and hospitals going without funding I highly doubt billions of pounds are going to be set aside for a scientific endeavour that involves creating the perfect waifu. I can always dream though.. ;_;

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>>5569340
Yeah, but it would require some pretty enormous breakthroughs in our scientific regime. I mean, at the very least we'd have to perfect a realistic, scaleable AI that would easily pass as human with working voice recognition and emotional programs, and yeah, no, not happening any time soon.

Plus, Ar Tonelico is kind of a cheat; it was made as a join effort between the most advanced wave scientists and the Teru, whose abilities are basically described as magic. Since we don't have any tail-wearing teleporting young☆granny magic users in our world, we're at a serious disadvantage.

>> No.5571520

>>5570760
Well, technically they aren't robots or AI-they're pretty much just highly-modified humans. I don't think it'll be terribly long before humans invent a machine that will allow you to choose your offspring's genes. Custom humans, pretty much.

Now, the shit where she is able to link with computers; you'll have to put machine parts into her, effectively making her into a cyborg. No worries here, though. We already have human-computer neural interfaces; in fact, OCZ sells one on the general market, though it can't actually 'read your mind' and is a bit more 'simplistic' (well, as simplistic as a neural interface can get). However, this one will have to be completely wireless.

The hard part is doing the magic. Making them have special powers-that I think won't come true, because it simply is too impractical-nobody will want to invest that amount of money into it. Truthfully, it's also impossible to replicate the abilities they have in the games.

Or we can do what you said. Make her 100% android, and stuff a load of various weapons systems into her. I think we're about, at most, half a century off from an actual self-aware computer with human emotions. It's projected that, by the year 2040 or so, one PC you can buy for $1500 will rival the computing capacity of the entire human race.

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>>5551419

Pretty much, yeah.

Planets are not nice people.

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>>5551419

Probably, yeah.

Planets are not nice people.

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You know, I've been wondering lately. Mir is a clone of a clone of Shurelia, right?

Does that make Shurelia Mir's grandmother?

>> No.5572252

OP Here. I'll be leaving for another country with very little internet access, so if I don't start another thread when this thread hits the bump limit/404's, it would be much appreciated if someone else could. Thanks!

>> No.5572375

>>5572252

Have fun in North Korea, Justin

>> No.5572419

>>5572252

Keep your head down over there. Best of luck and stay safe.

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>>5572375
My name isn't Justin.

>> No.5572681

>>5572673
And I'm not going to corea.

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>>5572419
Thanks, ZUN.

>> No.5572689

>>5572681
Where you going then?

Africa? The sandbox?

>> No.5572713

>>5571520
In any case, I think within 100 years we'll have custom humans and/or pretty advanced androids. We're currently inventing and advancing at an exponential rate; it's not long before something like this happens.

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>>5572252
Thanks for taking care of it all this time!

>>5571520
>they're pretty much just highly-modified humans
Ehh. Spoilering this because Tsuchiya held off saying it outright until Japan had all played AT3, but the minds of the Origins and Betas are housed solely in the Towers. They're all AIs running in the Tower's SH servers according to word of god. Origins' bodies, I assume, are crazy feats of biomechanical engineering, and Betas' bodies are basically song magic programs that convert a special solution seeded around their Nuclear Triangular Loop into their bodies - that's what happens in those capsules they're born out of, and why they turn into water when their Nuclear Triangular Loop runs out of juice. Third generations are basically humans with the bits from Origins and Betas that allow them to access the Tower.

So, what you're saying may be true, but it's not really in line with the mechanics behind RTs in AT - check out the translations of the settei books, technical service centers, and technical data compilation rooms for more info on that if you care to.

The rest of your post I find interesting, but I'm kind of skeptical. It's all out of my immediate sphere of knowledge, so trying to argue it would be stupid, but pointers to summaries of relevant information (with maybe links to more in-depth stuff for possible follow-ups later) would be appreciated.

>> No.5572764

>>5572689
He got it right. It's North Korea.

Just kidding. Nepal, then India (though India has a shitload of internet cafes, etc. the places where I'm staying at are really rural). Just a vacation to see some of the more pretty parts of those countries.

Don't want to turn this into my own personal blog, though (ugh), so let's get back on topic.

>> No.5572843

>>5571754

Uh, wouldn't that make Ayatane's crush on Shurelia kind of... squicky?

>> No.5572884

>>5572715
Forgive me, it's 2030, and the prediction is that by then a single computer will be more powerful that the average human. That's according to a prediction modeled after moore's law and what has happened to computing power over the past few decades. However, moore's law will eventually hit a limit (and possibly before 2030) and we'll slow down a bit. Still, I think within at the very most a century we'll have a self-aware computer, and if we do that early, self-aware androids.

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>>5572764
That sounds badass; I love traveling as well. Do me a favor and post or link to some pictures of that scenery when you get back.

When I leave on extended vacations I usually don't find myself missing the internet much. It's probably the one thing in life that never changes.

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>>5572884
>a single computer will be more powerful than a human
Yeah, what does "powerful" mean? Admittedly I haven't been paying attention, but I don't understand how people toss around FLOPS as any sort of meaningful comparison to what the brain does. It feels kind of like saying, I don't know, that my recording of Mars, Bringer of War is more angry than your brass knuckles.

I mean, sure, you'll be able to pack as many transistors as you have neurons on a single die. In the simplest of cases, sure, we can now create neural networks, but I'm not sure I agree it's that simple (maybe due to my own ignorance).

>> No.5573254

>>5573030
Yeah, you can't really compare computers and their kind of processing power and humans and their types of calculations. That is really just an estimate.

>> No.5573336

>>5571754

I can see it now:

Jakuri: Ooooohh graaaannnnnyyyyy~!
Shurelia: STOP IT! STOP IT RIGHT THIS INSTANT!

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>> No.5574401

>>5567978
Didn't try Cross Edge. Trinity Universe started off a bit slow, but has nice 3d exploring, and the battle system is pretty deep in any battle I'm not curbstomping, because you need to micromanage everyone and sometimes remember exactly what to do for everyone in a pretty short time, if you want maximum effect(I.E. chain attacks between party members)

>> No.5574403

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltRvfAvI7g4

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>>5572252

Old OP here. I guess I'll make another if you're not back although I believe I'm too lazy to convert music files over. Thanks for taking over the past 3-4 threads. Stay safe and have a nice trip.

>>5571520

As said by >>5572715 they aren't human but rather crafted AI with built in emotions and a functioning body. Beta's are clones and as a result are born from capsules but they still function effectively the same way with their cosmosphere being stored in the towers etc. You know what the sad thing is? While typing this post the only thing I could thing of was I, Origin. An army of origins just going on a rampage throughout the world with only one man to stop them. Or, well, one penis. Image related, it's Shurelia porn.

>> No.5574435

>>5574401
Oh also, character interactions are funny. I'm playing Kanata's side, which among other things has... prinnies being prinnies, and Etna being Etna.

>> No.5574633

>>5574401

How many party members does each side have? One of the things that gets me in Cross Edge is that it has a HUGE number of party members. That's a lot of grinding in a game that requires a lot of grinding above the Easy difficulty. You get like 10+ characters in the first hour of Cross-Edge.

Please tell me if Trinity Universe uses a smaller number. The less grinding the better, and thus I move on with the story faster.

>> No.5575293

>>5574633
I'm not sure, but I think you get 6 to 8 per side, using 4 at a time. Leveling isn't too bad, tho. I pretty much get a level up every other battle, since the monsters give massive experience. I have to say tho, bosses are 10 to 50 times tougher than normal enemies in their areas. The game has a lot of particularly strong stuff hanging out in somewhat chill areas.

>> No.5575460

>>5575293

That sounds good, better than how it was in CE at least.

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>> No.5576468

Why is Aurica such a horrible and boring girl?

>> No.5576887

>>5576468
Because your opinions and preferences makes you think that way in terms of how she is presented.

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>>5576468

Shut up about Lu.. I see what you did there.

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>>5576468

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>>5577502

Go away, dark Aurica.

>> No.5579699

>>5576887
Not my fault she has a fucking broken doll complex.

>> No.5581651

Luca is a slut and a whore.

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>>5581651

Oh you.

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I wish to be the leotard. ;_;

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Oh what a life it would be. ♥

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Am I the only one who hates the character designs for the third game? They look pretty awful.
I think the second one was the best in regards of characters.

>> No.5583991

Tilia is the best character. Discuss.

>> No.5583995

>>5583961
Saki is good, not as Cloche and Misha, but fits well with the rest of the heroines.
Finnel was bad, they pushed the whole DFC/tomboy look too far, cut her hair and you've got a fucking man, seriously.
Tilia is the same, though at least she looks somewhat like a female, but they could've come out with something a little better than a copy/paste of Shurelia's Linkage, her adult form is WAAAAAAY better, a pity you don't see much of it.
I won't mention the other souls because they are more like supporting characters.

>> No.5583998

>>5583961
Yeah, I think Saki is the only one who actually looks good of the main three, excluding her ridiculous melons. Finnel and Tilia's outfits are complete messes.

Most of the side-characters look okay though.

>> No.5584147

>>5583995
>a copy/paste of Shurelia's Linkage
Speaking of, does Frelia have a Linkage armor?

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>>5584147

Only in fanart.

>> No.5584170

>>5584156
Must be pretty close to that considering Tilia's.

>> No.5584172

I liked Shurelia better when she was strong leading figure instead of a defenseless moeblob.
Seriously. I hated what they did to her character...

>> No.5584187

>>5584172
Pray we get a prequel around the Granothode Inferia then.

>> No.5584253

>>5584156
Shurelia's linkage was the first model, it looks heavy and encumbering, but there are some details such as the crown and the cape which symbolize she's Ar Tonelico admin, the master tower.
Tilia's linkage was more advanced, it looks light and comfortable, plus it follows the tower's style with the holo wings and the granothode discs which symbolize she's the admin of Sol Cluster's tower, focused on general research.
Frelia's linkage should look more advanced than Tilia's because if I recall correctly Metafals' was the last tower to be built, bells will probably be its main symbol considering there's a fucking bell in the middle of the tower, plus something else to symbolize the tower's duty to amplify the signal.

>> No.5584923

>>5584172

But that wasn't her true self. She was lonely all that time while keeping the tower maintained for the good of the people in Sol Ciel. You physically make the option of beginning the interaction with Shurelia by waking her up after EXEC_SUSPEND/. so it's only natural that her true personality begins to show when she finally has friendly people interacting with her and being her friends. She may be the administrator of Ar Tonelico but at the end of the day she's still a lonely girl.

>>5583961

It's all personal choice, really. Design wise I like Saki her tumours are well hidden so they aren't really an issue. As for Finnel I'll admit they took her delicious flatness a little over the top and her costume is a little basic but otherwise I think she looks fine, especially those delicious thighs and datass. It's a shame she doesn't let her hair down though, she looks 100 times better. Tilia.. eh, she has datass and DFC which is great but I'm personally not a fan of short hair and combined with her relatively basic outfit she's pretty dull to me from a design point of view. I like her full linkage armour though. With personality added in I completely dislike Saki whilst I love Tilia and Finnel. I'll assume you weren't referring to the personas since I personally think they all look pretty delicious.

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Obligatory moe.

>> No.5590792

Why are Shurelia and Mir so perfect?

>> No.5593087

>>5590792

Money is wonderful thing.

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fuck, knew I should've pre ordered it..

/r/ scans for rest of this

>> No.5593798

Mir is the best revyateil.

>> No.5593822
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>>5593798
No, buri hamachi is the best Ar Tonelico.

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>>5593822
No, Mir is the best ar tonelico.

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>>5593851
No, buri hamachi is the best Ar Tonelico.

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>>5593867
No, Mir is the best ar tonelico.

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>>5593874
No, buri hamachi is the best Ar Tonelico.

>> No.5593895

Hello Jones.

>>5593328

School girl Cocona? Really, Gust? Now I need to fap..

>> No.5594291

Okay, is there some way to get rid of these horrible horrible voices? Like some voice patch? I just started playing and I don't think I can bear through these horrible voices.

>> No.5594305

>buri hamachi
Do I want to know?

>> No.5594394

>>5594291
English voices or Japanese voices?
If English, and I'm assuming you're playing the first game, there's a setting in the options to change that.
Not for movies though, but I hear there's a version with movies in Japanese too.

>> No.5594414

>>5594394

From English Voices to Japanese. Well, if there's an option, I've missed it, I just fired it up to see if it actually works, I'm busy with some other games I'm close to finishing.

>> No.5594540

Also, it seems the earlier version runs smoother on my PC than the beta, still though, with both there's some ugly texture shit. Derp derp.

>> No.5594674

>>5594291

The torrent in the second post is the undub version of the game so you can change the voice setting to Japanese in the game options. The 2 or 3 cutscenes in the game will be in English unless you grab some other patch but it's honestly not a problem.

>>5594305

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FdFFg-qSI

It's basically Saki's victory music at the end of fights. Some guy on Nico made this out of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjyzkLtRHkc

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>>5594305
Hope you have a buri hamachi anonymous.
It can be a buri hamachi if you put your mind to it.

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>>5594868
This is buri hamachi_13.jpg.
Please adjust your imitation accordingly.

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>>5594894

And the same to you.

>> No.5595324

How about some settings sharing?

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>>5595324

I use this, seems to run everything perfectly fine. Everything else is on default. Using the plugins from like March or something along with beta r1888 of PCsx2. 1280x960 is only to remove the black border from 1280x1024. I'm not sure if the new beta release + plugins are any different but I'm too lazy to update it when it already works fine.

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>>5559072
>>5561074

There's portraits available of the characters in those poses so I imagine it wouldn't be hard to recreate the image at a resolution greater than 500x500. I'm not sure where to get them from though, I only have the ones available on the AT wikia.

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>>5596910

I'd give Ar Ru my antibodies, if you know what I mean.

>> No.5598181 [DELETED] 

Jan and Pawel Modrzejewski's take off for move backwards withdraw from to Poland is more than a homecoming -- it is also a vote of aplomb
http://ezlovo.ru

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>>5594674
That video is awesome.

Have a Tilia

>> No.5599766 [DELETED] 

luca is a whore and a slut

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>>5546086
Thanks OP

Guys, don't forget that Trinity Universe is out iwht Etna-sama and others characters, including Ar Tonelico ; let's support NISA and every localization

>> No.5600932

>>5599964
We were talking about it earlier in the thread. It's actually pretty good for a crossover game, since it has good character interaction, entertaining gameplay that offers challenges without making the game too difficult in general, and a large number of short dungeons.

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>>5599627

Honestly I don't know why it suddenly became so popular. In a relatively short time it got a significant amount of spin-offs.

>> No.5603075

>>5599964
I've been really wanting to buy that but... it's till to expensive it needs to drop to 20 pounds.

>> No.5603105

>>5599964

I bought Cross Edge. What I got was a yawnfest.

Probably a problem with my way of playing them, but I'll steer clear of Compile Heart's games for now.

Who knows, maybe Trinity Universe would be a good game. Praise it harder if it is.

Anyways, quick question: Will Ar Tonelico 3 in English sells more than 20k units?

>> No.5603140

>>5596289

Thanks, it seems to work, but the quality is less than the ZeroGS. That however has some nasties when you first enter the village and starts to lag. This will do fine.

>> No.5603187

>>5603105
After my atrocious experience with Agarest, Compile Heart is in my blacklist.

>> No.5603195

>>5603187
You just chose the wrong girls in each generation!
...Nah, it's still painfully mediocre.

>> No.5603199

>>5603195
Mediocre is a compliment, the game is shit, I can't believe I have the collector's edition.

>> No.5603219

>>5603140

Hit Shift F5 (I think?) so that it fixes the jaggies and such, otherwise they look completely identical. I had that problem with ZeroGS in AT2 which is why I had to swap over to GSdx and I've had no problems since.

>>5603105

Depends how it's priced, advertised and if it's bundled with anything. Take a look at Agarest, for example. A relatively niche and mediocre title at best but still got quite a bit of extra sales due to the whole pillow cover/oppai mousepad.

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>>5603199
Painfully mediocre, as in nothing is really well done.
Not really a compliment.
It's not AWFUL shit, but a 4-5/10 game for sure.

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>>5603199
>I can't believe I have the collector's edition.

This. The EU version too, so no good extras either.

>> No.5603262

>>5603219
No, it had severe sprite transparancy faults. When you crashed and get the first convo with dem knights, the large character pictures were fine, in the village, the transparent parts would flicker like mad, for both characters. Also it slowed to a crawl. So I used those GSDX9 settings and they worked fine, no flickering and shit. It just doesn't look as smooth as the ZeroGS. A small thing I don't reall mind.

>> No.5603263

>>5603220
I will admit the gameplay is somewhat passable, even if boring and repetitive to death and the soundtrack good though it loops so fucking much you'll never want hear it again.
What really made me mad though was the story, I was already prepared to the usual lolanimu events but this goes way over that, it's so wrong and absurd I sometime wonder if all the characters in that worlds are mentally disabled.

>> No.5603283

>>5603262

That's what I was referring to. It'd flicker so bad and you'd drop to like 15 FPS. With GSdx press shift + F5 and it smooths it out.

>> No.5603496

>>5603283
Maybe I'm not clear, people complain about my English. Anyway, that only happens, with ZeroGS. The overal picture was really smooth but in a conversation you'd epilepticpapdfakj;aaaskaj;.
GSDX9 will indeed make it look smoother with the F5 interlace, I have that turned on. It still doens't look as smooth as ZeroGS.

>> No.5603563

>>5603496

Again that's what I'm referring to. With ZeroGS in AT1/AT2 at certain points (mainly when conversations occur) the screen would badly flicker and the FPS would drop to below 20. GSdx fixes this and, to me, seemed just as good as ZeroGS in regards to how it ran. Sorry if I confused you.

>> No.5605308

>>5603105
Well, Idea Factory seems to have done it right, because Trinity Universe might be better in some departments, but it's not a yawnfest, since you can do all kind of Legaia-like attack chaining, and then pass combos to other characters for maximum effect, but once you get a combo started, you are on real time, so you're on the edge, trying to remember everyone's best combo, who you're gonna pass to next, which kind of attack is the enemy weak to, etc. If I had to complain about something, is that while the 2d scenes are pretty good, with character models even moving and breathing, the 3d models for characters aren't something you would expect on a PS3, but an average 2d title, with maybe the exception of main characters who get a little more action in dungeon exploration and show more work.

>> No.5605318

>>5603563
you have a shit computron lad

>> No.5605323

>>5603220
Atleast it's pretty long. Then again, so was Unlimited SaGa. I'm not sure I would even really get that far. I've been planning on getting the PS3 downloadable version to have some game to play on my PS3 all the time. I have 250 GB of free space anyway. It's pretty amazing that the DLC for this game cost more than the game itself, tho.

>> No.5605327

>>5603563
Ah okay, well sorry then. It works, that's all that matters for me right now.

>> No.5606848

>>5605318

I imagine it's better than yours. It's just that common glitch which forces the FPS to drop, which is easily solved by switching the graphics plugin.

>> No.5607406

>>5605318

>some Bankok dude saying you have a shitty computer
>myface.jpg

>> No.5608614
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>>5607406

I believe you're looking for this.

>> No.5609896
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5609896

Late-breaking news: Shurelia-sama's 3 sizes are 77-58-78

>> No.5610992

>>5609896

>77

It's all lies.

>> No.5611150

luca is a whore and a slut

>> No.5612417
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>>5611150

I can feel the asspain from here.

>> No.5613677
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5613677

This artist really should do more Cocona in this style, she looks really nice.

>> No.5613726

>>5611150
Get some new material, seriously man.

>> No.5613801 [DELETED] 

hello

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>> No.5614544

Ar Tonelico thread, I come to you with a very important question.
I have pondered this for the past several hours to no success.

Is Ayatane a guy or a girl?

>> No.5614664

>>5614544
I must then pose in response:

Is it too much to ask for both?

>> No.5614684

>>5614544
Technically, neither.
So he can be both

>> No.5614749
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5614749

>>5613726

Saki is a whore and a slut.

>> No.5614750
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5614750

>>5613677
Who's the artist?

>>5614544
Ayatane is always male. AT1 Ayatane, though, is a digital life form, so Mir could probably reprogram him into whatever she wanted.

>> No.5614794

>>5614750
"could probably"?

>> No.5614810
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5614810

>>5614750

filename.jpg

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=15469

>> No.5615156

>>5614810
Jean Ishikawa is a man, too, by the in game text.

Despite having tits.

>> No.5615486

>>5614810
We know how AT2's translation is sometimes, if she was using あの子 she could mean either boy or girl.

>> No.5615968
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5615968

>>5615156
>>5615486

Yeah, I already know the AT2 translation is shit. I was just posting the screenshots for the guy who bought it up. It's clear that Ayatane is a male, unless Jakuri feels like a change of course.

>> No.5616730

Hey, I swear in AT2 that Spica says stuff that makes her seem like a crazy lesbian. (and Skycat says stuff that makes her seem like a desperate lesbian but that's obvious)

Anyone got screens of that?

>> No.5616932

>>5616730
Spica teases everyone.
Skycat became obsessed by barely even knowing Luca.
Different things

>> No.5618117
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5618117

>>5616730

She may be desperate but I'll be damned if the thought of Luca/Skycat isn't fucking hot.

>> No.5618142 [DELETED] 

>>5546085
wWw.aNolOlTALK.SE_rePlacE loL WItH_n
l ea rylq iyps sbebvcanoc qopi njnpe

>> No.5618138

>>5616730
she's more of a nymphomaniac than a lesbian

>> No.5619680
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5619680

Why is she so perfect?

>> No.5621249

The cool thing about Ar Tonelico threads is that they have classy people and can survive for over a week.

>> No.5621885
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5621885

It's always nice to see new AT2 images.

>> No.5622908

>>5621885
Cloche's tumors and her dress goes very well together, I must say.

>> No.5624431
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5624431

Obligatory translation request. I fear I'm missing out on moe Frelia.

>> No.5624499

>>5624431

Bottom-up, right left

Panel 1

Is this alright, Frelia?
Y-yeah... Just a bit more...

Panel 2

Thank you
Did I shake too much? I'm sorry
You're welcome
Don't worry, you're pretty light

Panel 3

So pretty--
I agree
XXXchan (can't read this kanji), what did you wish for?
What did I?
Ehehe... Can't tell

Panel 4

"From now on, I hope I can always remain together with Enja"

>> No.5624554

>>5624499
>XXXchan
It's Shun-chan.

>> No.5624594
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5624594

>>5624499

God damn it. She's criminally moe.

>> No.5626384
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5626384

>>5624594

>> No.5627601

>>5626384

It saddens me that most versions of this image are badly coloured.

>> No.5627958

>>5627601
Is mine badly colored?

>> No.5628106
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5628106

>>5627958

It's actually one of the better ones.

>> No.5628215

>>5627958
The background, grass and sky are pretty shit, I'm sorry.
The characters aren't that bad. Kind of bland, but not bad bad.

>> No.5628454

>>5628215
Eh, 'mine' might have been a bit too possessive. I only saved it out of one of these threads.

>> No.5628552
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5628552

Hmm. >>5628106 here, may as well post the others I have.

Decent colour ruined by noses.

>> No.5628565
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5628565

Decent colour but the background is kinda eh..

>> No.5628589

>>5628565
Actually it looks beautiful

>> No.5628600
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5628600

And finally the original. A colourless is fine too.

>> No.5630170

Going back and playing AT1, I've noticed a few things, the art and general quality went way down between 1 and 2. Also, AT1 had one of the best packaging of any game I've bought. With the hardback art book, and how you slide them out the back instead of opening the box. If only it came with a soundtrack disc in there too.

>> No.5631854
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5631854

>>5628589

To each to their own, good sir.

>> No.5631965

>>5613677
Aoto's expression in that picture makes me laugh, it looks like he's thinking, "I am so totally going to hit that".

>> No.5633083

>>5631965

13 years old man. Although I thought exactly the same which is why I wanted him to draw Cocona alone. I don't want my waifu defiled by a fag like Aoto. ;_;

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5633823

>>5631965

>> No.5635467

>>5633823

Massive drill or not, Aoto is still a faggot.

>> No.5635485

>>5635467
As far as harem leads go, Aoto is actually good, though I still miss the manly Croix confessing 1/3 into the game.

>> No.5635501

>>5635485

I'm just not fond of his attitude and the fact that he's voiced by Shirou just completely ruins any sort of image he may have as a harem lead.

>> No.5637513
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5637513

Misha with her hair down suddenly looks very delicious.

>> No.5637957

>>5637513
>suddenly

You're saying she wasn't delicious before?

>> No.5637972 [DELETED] 

>>5546084

StOp Fucking aTTACKing_wWw.ANOLAWLTaLk.Se_replAce lAWl With N
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>> No.5637975
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5637975

>>5637513
Did she get breast reduction surgery?

>> No.5638432

>>5637975
Artists don't always draw things to correct proportions. Who knew?

Interesting reference image, btw.

>> No.5638528

>>5637975
Old spica is better, but everyone else is better new.

>> No.5638735
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5638735

>>5637957

Well of course she was but I still preferred Shurelia over her. But with her hair down suddenly she becomes so much more delicious, in my opinion. Long hair is love, Finnel related.

>> No.5638790

>>5638528
Spica was never good.
Except when she made Jakuri really uncomfortable.

>> No.5638852
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5638852

>>5638790
That alone makes her awesome. Seriously, there's nothing like watching Jakuri suddenly switch to her mega-embarrassed face and push Croix across the room.

I'm kind of curious what sort of deal Spica and Shurelia struck when Shurelia got lost in Firefly Alley, though. I suspect it concerned giving Shurelia a free lifetime supply of Kitty Candy, though.

>> No.5639694

>>5638852

I'm sure not even Shurelia is silly enough to risk a lifetime of anything from Spica.

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5640320

>>5635501
Harem? Is that some sort of sauce?

>> No.5641764
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5641764

>>5552424
>>5553898
Just putting this out there but the guys in NIS who are working on Ar Tonelico 3 and Atelier Totori said there wont be a release until AT LEAST summer next year. The guy I managed to ask was also one of the editors and he said they were basically just taking it easy.
On another note, I can't get the Song of Pepen out of my head. Goddamnit.
Was yea ra melenas melenas nyanyas nyanyas
Pe! Pe!! PePen!!!

>> No.5642065

>>5641764

Well fuck. At least that means I'll be picking up a relatively cheaper PS3 by then.

>> No.5642194

>>5641764
>until AT LEAST summer next year

Darn it. :(

>> No.5642529

>>5638735
Finnel confirmed for best choice.
If staying alive wasn't enough already for you.

>> No.5642535 [DELETED] 

>>5546085
stoP_fUCKIng_atTaCkING WWw.anOLAwltaLk.Se_repLACE_LaWL_WiTh n
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>>5642529

She's already my favourite regardless. It's just a shame knowing the doujins probably wont get scanned.

>> No.5643841 [DELETED] 

>>5546085
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>> No.5646662

Apparently there's a new Ar Tonelico artbook out, and it's been scanned. Anyone happen to know where?

>> No.5646749

>>5646662

I assume these are from it?

>>5593337
>>5593328

A link has yet to be given but I'm also interested.

>> No.5646884

>pcsx2
So there's no pc version?

>> No.5647156

>>5646884
Nope. PS2/3 only.

>> No.5647179

>>5647156
Hmm. Well alright then. Thanks!

>> No.5648021

>>5646884

Unfortunately not, probably because it's too much of a niche title to bother putting the resources into making a PC port when they're probably busy with their next project.

>> No.5649708
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5649708

Obligatory translation request.

>> No.5649712
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>> No.5651481
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>> No.5653284
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5653284

Thank you, Cross Edge. I salute you.

>> No.5655158

>I got the feeling from the Cocona end in Ar Tonelico 2 that Croix could score with Cocona, but would intra-family relationships be okay in that world?

>Basically, it's all okay as long as there's no blood relation.

Oh Tsuchiya, why are you so awesome?

>> No.5655187

>>5653284
Fuck Cross Edge, it's a terrible game.

>> No.5655779

Ratio of 15 and still haven't played game. ;_;

>> No.5656856
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5656856

>>5655187

I completely agree but having updated portraits of AT1 characters is relevant to my interests.

>>5655779

Why not?

>> No.5656964

Bios won't show up in the configuration of the emulator.

>> No.5658234

>>5656964

http://www.mediafire.com/?i4ymiymnyzd

>> No.5658758

>>5658234
Yea, those are the ones that are in the ATmadeEasy pack. I have those. I have those in the correct folder. And it should work, but it doesn't.

I tried it on another pc, but since it's slow and old as fuck, it's just for testing. Here it did show up in the configuration.

wat do

>> No.5659009

>>5658758

Well the AT..

>wat do

Nevermind. The solution is earlier in this thread.

Also I just realized, what the fuck happened to the second post?

>> No.5659687

>>5659009
Looks like it got nuked.

That was a good post too.

>> No.5661501

>>5649708
Vista: Hey, you all ... Isn't shutting me down and messing around with me a little too good for little bugs like you? You stupid little shitbugs!! Honestly, why do I have to be at the mercy of a bunch of depleted uranium brats like you ...

Pervert!!
Shitbugs!!
Ancient Elemians!!

XP: Subframe-chan!! I'm sure I told you not to use such filthy language with humans ...
No "Ancient Elemians".
*smack*

>>5649712
Vista: You hit me! One- ... XP!! Why don't you just go into the core and SHUT YOURSELF DOWN!!
You ... stupid pink onee-chan!

XP: Now, now, bad girls get punishment, right?

Aoto: Stooooooooooop!!! Sakiiiiiiiiiii!! Don't waaaaaaaaaatch!!!
Whoa, that's awesome ...
Nooooo!


Oh man, seme Harvestasya XP? Yes please.

Man, I wish I knew how to at least get the Harve-sama DLC :<

>> No.5661513
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5661513

To the guy who made the lazy pack; have you updated it yet or should I update it for the next thread? And I guess I'll need to figure out how to post music with that script too, assuming the new OP is still busy.

>>5659687

There was no real reason for it to be deleted though.

>> No.5663090
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5663090

>>5661513
Probably just a random janitor being retarded.

If he deleted it because it has download links, then I don't know what to say considering how much stuff we link to everyday.

>> No.5663099 [DELETED] 

>>5546085

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>> No.5663640

>>5661501

It's not on the PSN store? I don't personally have a PS3 yet so I can't check.

>> No.5663744

They should start distributing games that they don't expect to get many sales for on PSN.

>> No.5664989

>>5659009
Using the public beta doesn't matter. Using different plugins have ofcourse no effect in being able to select a BIOS in the emulator.

>> No.5665377

>>5663744

Aksys did this for Agarest, if I recall correctly, and it resulted in a shitload of butthurt because everyone wanted a physical copy etc.

>> No.5665403

>>5663090
Ohhh, it's Nono! It's the real Nono!!
Hm, I thought the correct answer was
-> Hug her, too

>>5663640
You probably need to have a PSN account tied to a Japanese address or something.

>> No.5665495

>>5665403

Surely this could be done easily enough since PSN accounts are free? You can't do this on XBL since you need to pay a subscription fee but I imagine you could get away with it without a problem on the PS3.

>> No.5665648

New thread at >>5665631.

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