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5523246 No.5523246 [Reply] [Original]

A Touhou anime is not, and cannot, be feasible. The expectations of the fans would be tremendous, and the budget needed would be enormous. No depiction would satisfy most fans, if at all, and would be doomed to ruin regardless of how skilled and knowledgeable the director is.

Thus, the idea of a Touhou animation is pure folly.

>> No.5523251
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5523251

Oh, wow. A sensible post? On my /jp/? Too bad this thread is bound to end up as a +200 reply shitstorm.

>> No.5523260
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5523260

sugoi bakemonogatari aniki

>> No.5523265

Inaba of the Moon & Inaba of the Earth animated.
That would satisfy me.

>> No.5523266

Exactly what we've been saying.

>> No.5523267

Which Studio is best suited to animate Touhou?

in b4 faggots say Gainax/Production I.G.

>> No.5523273

Who gives a shit

>> No.5523281

We'll never know what happened to Reimu's donation box and all the other shit that was stolen ;_; THANKS A LOT ZUN

>> No.5523283

Imagine the Blu-Ray/DVD sales if done right though

>> No.5523284

>>5523281
They fucked up Marisa anyways

>> No.5523291

why don't you go tell that to /a/, we already figured this out pre-split.

>> No.5523300
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>>5523291
Touhou is not /a/ related anon. Never shall be.

>> No.5523303

you'd have to make so many different versions though to satisfy all the fans.

One would have to be pure canon, NO FANON ALLOWED
another would be MOEMOE LOLOLOL OH KOGASA YOU'RE NOT SCARY AT ALL moeblob fest
another would be zomg grimdark gensokyo, with Yuuka bathing in blood and laughing maniacally

>> No.5523322

Touhou has no real plot and the most of the games are just fighting.

>> No.5523328

>>5523303
The first two things you listed are exactly the same?

>> No.5523332

>>5523322
> Touhou has no real plot and the most of the games are just fighting.
You just described half of anime.

>> No.5523333

What was ZUN's reason for no anime? I think it was something specific, but it might have just been "no".

>> No.5523345

>>5523332
Even shounen anime is mostly talking.

>> No.5523358

>>5523328

no, Canon is not moeblob shit, there's no Momiji loev Aya, etc.

>> No.5523363

>>5523303
I would love all three.

>> No.5523368

>>5523358
It's pretty damn moeblob. Have you not read SSiB or CoLA?

>> No.5523391

>>5523368

No, I did read PMiSS though and I got the impression things were not moeblobby in canon gensokyo. What with all the "danger level to humans" stuff.

>> No.5523396

>>5523391
Ah. You'd be mistaken. Check out the Monologue in PMiSS.

>> No.5523400

>>5523300
/a/ is Touhou related.

>>5523303
Moeblob grimdark IS Touhou.

>> No.5523405

Those who support the idea of an touhou anime should be banned from this board.

>> No.5523408

Thank god, we'd have even more awful touhou threads if there'd be an anime.

>> No.5523409

Touhou fan anime are wonderful, but it's best when the production values are kept low.

>> No.5523419

13 eps of stuff blowing up while two bitches shout at each other?
why not.

>> No.5523421

>>5523409
/a/ are you implying that professional anime has good production values?

Because good anime ceased to exist when the 80s were over.

>> No.5523422

I would still much rather have a big budget Disgaea-type Touhou game that had a fully voiced story and everything.

>> No.5523429

>>5523421
You're a faggot.
Go back to circle-jerking over Eva.

>> No.5523432

>>5523421
/a/, I'm talking about one, maybe two artists drawing every single frame and having their friends dub over it.

>> No.5523435

>>5523421
Even the shittiest '00s anime has better production values than what most '80s shows could only dream of.

>> No.5523436

>>5523429
Eva. Is. Not. Good.

I knew this when I was a teen, and I know this now. Try again with something not so damn mainstream.

>> No.5523440

>>5523436
I know, Eva is terrible, that's why I used it.
It's an insult.

>> No.5523442

>>5523303
Grimdark fans can and should be ignored completely.

>> No.5523451

A Clannad anime is not, and cannot, be feasible. The expectations of the fans would be tremendous, and the budget needed would be enormous. No depiction would satisfy most fans, if at all, and would be doomed to ruin regardless of how skilled and knowledgeable the director is.

Thus, the idea of a Clannad animation is pure folly.

>> No.5523452

>>5523246
That's not news. Good post anyway.

>> No.5523460

>>5523303
>another would be zomg grimdark gensokyo, with Yuuka bathing in blood and laughing maniacally

Grimdark can be lighter than that. I think you are making borders way too thick

>> No.5523463

I think it could work if every episode was completely unrelated to all other episodes. Each week would be a different story by a different director with different art styles. The only thing that might stay the same is the voice actresses.

While I think that would work, I don't think it would be a really good idea to actually do it.

>> No.5523471

>>5523460
When I think grimdark, I think of stuff on the Franken Fran-Gunnm-Berserk range.

You should not do grimdark half assed.

>> No.5523475

>>5523463
Get together a group to read doujins and slap them on nico. There. As good as an anime.

>> No.5523480

>>5523460
don't you mean thin?

>> No.5523486
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>>5523460

If this picture did not become a scene in a grimdark Touhou anime: a screaming, howling Yuuka, drenched in blood and emerging from the flames still smoldering- exacting her horrible, horrible revenge as she tears humans limb from limb for burning her sunflower field...

the anime will not have been grimdark enough for me.

>> No.5523493

>The expectations of the fans would be tremendous
that has never stopped any studio from animating anything
>and the budget needed would be enormous
that has never stopped any studio from doing anything
>No depiction would satisfy most fans
that has never stopped any studio from doing anything

>> No.5523497

>>5523246

Anyone who genuinely thinks this is retarded and needs to open their eyes a bit. A touhou anime can be done if approached correctly, for instance:

A 6-9 episode OVA, each episode being episodic with only loose plot points or theme tying them together, if even that. Each episode will be done with a different director who is given nearly complete freedom over the direction of their respective projects where they would offer their own interpretation of the touhou world. For reference think Parallel Works.

If this idea does not appeal to you than you are broken.

>> No.5523509

>>5523463
Wow, it could actually be pretty awesome, like the Animatrix, some suck, some are the best thing ever, opinions vary.
Shame it will never happen.

>> No.5523510

>>5523246
here, didn't see this post
>>5523463
Woops. Only it would have to be an OVA

>> No.5523521

>>5523246
The third one in the pic is disgusting.
Just stating a fact.

>> No.5523523
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>>5523246
These are the closest we'll get to a Touhou anime.

Shrine of the Morning Mist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txVHoW6zy8k&feature=related

Tactics TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p04OZ928EBA&feature=related

But just like how a Touhou anime would turn out, they're boring. In order to make a good Touhou anime you need grimdark battles. We already have anime about tea sipping, it's called Lucky Shit. This [>>5522270] post sums it up best.

>> No.5523529

>>5523475
Yeah, thats pretty much what I'm thinking. I think companies would make money if they animated doujins. Especially porn doujins. Every week/month/whatever, a new episode comes out. Each episode is just some doujin thats been animated.

>> No.5523538

A Touhou anime with a original script originally written by ZUN, animated by a group of professional animators under a circle-name and released as three 25-minute OVAs, sold and priced as a doujin-production.

If ZUN has time writing manga scripts and communicating with manga authors on a regular basis he could so the same with a small animation studio.

It could work. People like OP are just pessimistic.

>> No.5523539

>>5523529
What, make money off them? That's silly. They should be still frame pictures from the doujin. MAYBE some animation if the original artist is contacted and feels like animating it.

>> No.5523556

Weeaboos think Touhou is an anime.

>> No.5523564
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A Touhou anime/movie would be best if it was a collection of independent short stories. That way we could please the moemoe and the grimdark crowd. Some of the short stories could be based on existing doujinshis like Drunkards in Eientei, Reborn from Omega, and Why did she Leave the Miniature Garden.

>> No.5523588

>>5523463
This is a appealing idea. Alternatively, why not animate some episode-length doujinshi that already exist? There's a fuckton, and some of them are really good.

I don't understand why people think a Touhou anime must be flawless and/or commercial work. It can be a doujin work and still look good, and it doesn't have to be "official"; it would be just another take at the universe just like any other fanwork.

>> No.5523596

Touhou shouldn't have an anime, it might give IOSYS ideas.

>> No.5523601

What if the anime was like a documentary and is just about the backgrounds of everything.

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>>5523265
>mfw I click this thread with the sole purpose of stating an Inaba of the Moon/Earth anime would work and it's already said in the 3rd post

>> No.5523623

>>5523588
not only do I think that it doesn't need to be official
but I think its best that it isn't official.
that way any purist won't be offended because its doujin work and would either ignore it or appreciate it for what it is.

>> No.5523626

>>5523538
And it would bomb. SSiB is shit if you're not a fan of the series. And the plot/writing in the games are terrible. So you can count out newcomers. And the people who sell their stuff at Communistket, um, I mean Comiket, would protest the Touhou anime because it would destroy their fanon contributions and turn it into (confirmed) fanfiction. It's the equivalent of the folks at GNU selling out to Microsoft.

>> No.5523629

>>5523246
lookin kinda byakuren at the end there, marisa

>> No.5523630

Make a series based off each of the games starting with 6. I'm sure someone can weave a story around the battles. They already have the character lineup and plot taken care of.

What you shouldn't do is have a general anime filled with all of the characters acting friendly to each other. Only after they have fought should this happen. Introduce characters like the games do.

>> No.5523666

>>5523626
>because it would destroy their fanon contributions and turn it into (confirmed) fanfiction.

Major DERP. That's like saying ZUN opening his mouth alone would displease the fans. And the post never stated what the animation would cover. It could be like the short stories of the three fairies; NEW material.

>SSiB is shit if you're not a fan of the series
Only fans would watch it, dumbass. Why do you think they would make a Touhou anime in the first place? For the fans.

Also "SSiB is shit"; opinions, lol.

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>>5523623
>>5523588
>>5523497
Fucking this.

>> No.5523724

it will never happen, deal with it.
we don't need a shitty anime for a game, i don't see how it will be good for touhou
it's like calling Uwe Boll for a movie based on a video games

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>Major DERP. That's like saying ZUN opening his mouth alone would displease the fans.
Were you not here when jp/ read some articles about Momiji in Double Spoilers? That thread recived 250 replies.

>And the post never stated what the animation would cover. It could be like the short stories of the three fairies; NEW material.
ZUN's stories are bad, so even if he created something new it would also be bad. ZUN is good at creating gameplay and characters, but when it comes to making a motive/plot for said characters, he's terrible. What was IN's plot again, replace the moon with a real moon so that...? I'll let you finish. The stories about the creation of the Lunar Capital and Gensokyo are the ONLY good plots ZUN has written.

>Only fans would watch it, dumbass. Why do you think they would make a Touhou anime in the first place? For the fans.
Are you an idiot. They're not going to make an entire anime for a few Touhou fans. For an anime to be successful it would have to receive a lot of ratings from fans and newcomers. At best there's only 50,000 Touhou fans. And out of that number only a few of them would buy an anime DVD. Double Spoilers only sold 10k units. If ZUN had millions of fans, as I assume you think he has, ZUN would be a multi-millionaire by now. Hell, even if PCB sold 200k units ZUN wouldn't have to make another game for the rest of his life. In his latest interview ZUN said he's still working at a company.

>Also "SSiB is shit"; opinions, lol.
It's really bad. That's all I'll say about it. Check the easymodo archive for instances of "+SSIB +shit" and you'll see my opinion is in the majority. SSiB destroyed Marisa for some fans because it portrayed her as a whiny coward in her battle against the moonbitch.

>> No.5523769

>>5523740
>moonbitch
That's racist!

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>>5523740
>Check the easymodo archive for instances of "+SSIB +shit" and you'll see my opinion is in the majority.

>> No.5523776

>>5523740

The stories are not really bad, I think that touhou in general is more enjoyable in a dreamy mindstate.

And dreams are not interesting for their logic or coherence..

>> No.5523777

Femanon here,

I think a Touhou would seriously suck. It would drain away all the exciting things that make Touhou, well, Touhou. Touhou is all about amateur contributions, just like amateur porn. When you take that will of the fans away, and give it to lifeless studios, you'll be left with shit. Major, smelly, stinky shit. Do you idiotic fans really want shit that bad? I hope not, after all, you're already used to Reimu's smelly 'pits.

>> No.5523779

>>5523777
>Femanon
attention whore, stopped reading

>> No.5523782

>>5523777
I know this thread is crawling with trolls, but could you please be a bit less obvious about it?

>> No.5523791

>>5523779
She said she starred in amateur porn too. Must be from /a/; that board is filled with sluts.

/jp/ femanons are pure though.

>> No.5523801

>>5523779
Same here, I pretty much stopped once I read that, and I have no intention of reading the rest. Only chance I'll read that Anon's opinion is if he deletes his post and edits out the attentionwhore error.

>> No.5523813

I didn't read your post OP, but I'm using your pic to mentally run through a fantasy wherein I meet Marisa in her child form and become an influential person in her life, almost to the point of being a father-figure (as she was created via abiogenesis). I look after her and take care of her when she needs it. Sometimes we sit together on the couch and she ends up napping on my shoulder or tugging at my shirt wanting to play. As she grows older I begin to dispense wisdom and help her through emotionally trying times, always trying to make her smile. We still talk in the evenings a few days a week.

Eventually, I die (I haven't decided whether it's from something manly or just age yet) and she comes to my funeral with tears in her eyes but a smile on her face; the event is bittersweet. She's crushed that I'm gone, but she remembers all the good memories we had and how great I was to her over the years.

>> No.5523825

>>5523813
Obviously, you die having manly fist fight with the personification of old age while 80 years old.

>> No.5523843

Why would Inaba of the Moon & Inaba of the Earth make a good anime?

>> No.5523889

>>5523740
You obviously don't agree with me. I'd type a reply but too tired.

I was here when DS, but seriously. The anime doesn't need to be shit fucking serious business. Everyone was just bored and overreacting. ZUN makes new material every year. Shit storm happens. In the end? No-one cares.

Whatever. Maybe ZUN's writing is "too bad" for a anime manuscript. I don't know. /jp/ sure hates ZUN's writing, even though they don't have an adequate reason to do so beyond their butthurt feeling over their favorite characters.

Your reasoning over as why SSiB is bad pisses me off to no end. /jp/ says so, so it must be true. What ever happened to personal opinions, rather than just popular belief?

Also, ZUN has and never will care about money. Geez.

>> No.5523894

>>5523777
Please never post again. You are an embarrassment for every female lurking the Internet ever.

>> No.5524102

>>5523791
>>5523801
>>5523779
>>5523894
hahahaha you all think >>5523777 really is a girl

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>>5523429

>Using a 90s anime to insult someone bitching about how everything post-80s sucks

>> No.5524185

>>5524102
when he wears a skirt he is

>> No.5524204

>>5523843

I'm not the one who suggested it, but I think that Inaba would make a good Touhou anime. If they try to make on original, action-oriented plot, the fans are gonna hate it a la SSiB. I think that a lighthearted comedy such as Inaba would be a pretty good way to make a Touhou anime that the fans won't complain about - it's lighthearted enough for the moe-Gensokyo fans to be content, yet Inaba was based entirely around canon, so there wouldn't be any lovesick-Alice/Momiji-<3s-Aya/Hannibal-Lecter-Yuuka nonsense. And the people who want intense danmaku-duels animated would get them in the form of the Kaguya-Mokou rivalry.

>> No.5524252

>>5524163
Take your /a/ reaction images back to /a/.

>> No.5524260
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5524260

Touhou does not need an anime. You see the type of people that come out of the wood work when IOSYS makes a new flash and you've seen the people who came out of the wood work when the unofficial one came out.

I repeat. Touhou does not need an anime.

Oh and OP is right too.

>> No.5524278

>>5524260
There were TWO unofficial anime. Not one.

>> No.5524307
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5524307

Why have animes about touhou? History/Character Development etc? Isn't that why Japan have those animation/music companies who make vids and shit to explain the characters?

>> No.5524318

It could be done. The Japanese love all sorts of mythology-based stuff, they'd eat it up. I'm talking "official", here, of course, something halfway like Spirited Away, not so much moeblobby.

>> No.5524324

>>5524307
>>5524260

KamS always related when explaining touhou history
SSiB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvrBZcba288

>> No.5524335

>>5524278

You're right. There are two Touhou anime but still.

>> No.5524338

Hey /jp/ whats SSiB?

>> No.5524347

It will happen eventually. It is just a matter of time.

It's unpleasant, but ZUN is only human and probably cannot last forever against the prospective heaps of money that could be made off letting Touhou really go mainstream.

After that, something new will probably come along and replace Touhou at Comiket. I hope.

>> No.5524353

>>5523246

NO

WHY DOES MARISA TURN INTO A SLUT

>> No.5524364

>>5524338
Super Smash inaba Bros

>> No.5524366

Can't stop lolling at people who think an animated series has to even try to satisfy everyone.

>> No.5524393

>>5524324

No matter how many times I see this guy's stuff it always manages to make me feel awkward.

>> No.5524394

>>5523436

Opinions.

Eva is good because I like it. Eva is not good because you don't like it. Go fuck yourself if you think your opinion is fact.

As far as a Touhou anime, it wouldn't be impossible, but it couldn't satisfy everything. Canon!Gensokyo is a great place that's pretty peaceful (except during incidents...and incidents never happen that often and don't really affect the humans). Some characters are moe/pathetic, some are complete insane bitches.

PMiSS is supposed to be written like a Gensokyo history book/bestiary. Of course it's going to be factual and make the place look more serious than it is. It's supposed to be a "professional work."

If anything gets animated, it'l be SSiB or CoLR. Just to piss everyone off with moonbitches.

>> No.5524406

>>5523333
He didn't want to associate touhous with voices.

>> No.5524410

>>5524406
I already associate Touhous with voices. There is such a thing as drama CDs.

>> No.5524424

>>5524394

When he said things like
>Try again with something not so damn mainstream.

You should know you're being trolled.

>> No.5524477

>>5524338
Some shitty manga ZUN wrote. Don't get peer pressured into reading it like I have. All it does is introduce a few shitty characters and piss all over Marisa. If you're a fan of Marisa, do not under any circumstances read SSiB. In SSiB she's portrayed as a weak, ugly (her words; not mine), whiny coward. Her most memorable scene in SSiB was the one where Remilia kicked her for being so damn pathetic.

This video reminded me of Marisa in SSiB:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8-ycSkoYfc

There I just saved you 21 chapters of ZUN's questionable storytelling.

>> No.5524479

>>5523740

ZUN could never make that much money even if his games DID sell that well. His net gain from anything is probably very low. He has to send the game off to a disk printing company (which probably costs him quite a bit) and then sends the game off to the stores. Stores probably take in most of the money from the game sales, with him getting very little PER COPY. You seem to think that he gets pure profit per sale or that there's very little production costs. Even if it sold 200,000 units, it would only offset his costs by a little bit, with most of it going to reimburse what he had to pay to get it printed in the first place and another large chunk going to the stores selling the game. It adds up over time, but the cost of living is still really expensive. It's obvious that he's not in it for the money.

>> No.5524494

>>5524479
You're wrong because he sells his games in person at conventions.

>> No.5524516

You ALL freaking retarded.

Start by the easiest issue: voice. Remember how the first "OVA" has used the "best" voice actresses and it still fails?

Now you learn something.

>> No.5524520

>>5524477
I read SSIB and all I saw was Marisa lose a fight. I don't know where you're getting all of this hatred from. It's not like she has to be the strongest person in Gensokyo ever ever ever.

>> No.5524528

>>5524494

Then how come I see a huge display for Double Spoiler at Gamers every time I shop there?

He sells them for cheap, and it STILL only offets his costs by a little bit. If all his stock is bought up by retailers, he doesn't see any of the money that the retailers make; only what he had already made.

>> No.5524535

You fags are already getting your precious Touhou figs you wanted for years and years. Don't whine for an anime too.

>> No.5524547

>>5524516

It didn't fail because of the voices. It failed because of the shitty character designs and the fact that ZUN himself cracked down on it when its original name was "Touhou Anime Project."

>> No.5524555

>>5524479
>>5524528
Just stop, you don't know what you're talking about. Take a class in rudimentary economics before speaking again.

>> No.5524580

>>5524555

The fact that he's an independent means he doesn't stand to make much money to begin with. Whatever money he DOES make he spends on...whatever it cost to print the discs and beer. That's kind of the thing with doujin artists. Most doujinshi circles either break even or make only enough profit to celebrate afterward. A few even lose money. NO ONE in that market does it for money.

>> No.5524598

>>5524580
Lots of them do it for money. Particularly the more popular porn.

>> No.5524618

>>5524598

Again, what money? Only a few circles stand to make anything. The ones that do hit it big and stop being independent. CLAMP comes to mind.

Hell, I don't even think 07th Expansion makes that much.

>> No.5524623

>>5524479
If only he could move to a more civilized country.

>> No.5524631

It really doesn't matter what fans think of it. All that matter is that they watch/buy it.

And whether they like it or not, they will do just that.

And you know you would too.

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>>5524252

>implying I even go to /a/, and that I didn't find that image on /jp/

>> No.5524654

>>5524633
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/image/Lxn_ig9LHg113XGGeFp59g

Never posted before on /jp/. Now, go back to /a/.

>> No.5524668

>>5524618
What do you mean, what money? The money people are paying them for their shit. You can't not be independent when drawing porn of someone else's work.

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>>5524520
>I read SSIB and all I saw was Marisa lose a fight. I don't know where you're getting all of this hatred from. It's not like she has to be the strongest person in Gensokyo ever ever ever.
It has nothing to do with the fact that she lost. It's just the way she lost. Before the duel even began she said the most beautiful one always wins. She then lost, which implies she's an ugly side-character. Everyone there was pretty nonchalant, but the only thing that was going through Marisa's mind was "oh crap, there's no way we'll win. How do I escape!" She's also the one who proposed to do a spellcard duel despite the fact that the moonbitch made it clear (several times) that she was not going to go along with their shenanigans.

Challenging the moonbitch to a spellcard duel is the same thing as challenging someone to a game of chess who has several thousand pawns (and is not ashamed to break the rules by using them). Unlike Sakuya and Remilia who fought until they were exhausted, Marisa tried a few of her attacks and called it quits.

And did I mention the fact that she disgraced the masterspark--the double masterspark? For an entire decade the masterspark had a cult following amongst Touhou fans. An ENTIRE decade of danmaku tradition & culture only for it to be disgraced in one manga panel by a cowardly magician.

Am I mad? Am I taking it too seriously? Yes I am.

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>>5524654

>Implying that there are not differently cropped versions of it

And just because you seem so anal about keeping non-/jp/ reaction images off of /jp/, I'm gonna add a new non-/jp/ reaction image to every one of my posts. You mad?

>> No.5524707

>>5524668

Specify. If you think that anyone makes royalties off doujin works, then you're really...REALLY...wrong.

>> No.5524718 [DELETED] 

>>5524633
>>5524684
Just go away you shitposter. This [>>5524654] Anon owned your nerd ass. I wouldn't even show my face after that.

>> No.5524731

>>5524547
And you know why ZUN shot it down?

Because of the voices. Know that in anime, a character's "life" is 100% affected by the voice actors. The drawing comes second, due to the popularity followed through from the manga.

Once the voice is "added" into the movie, the character's life is born. It now has an identity and personality. It no longer "free" to be imagined what's she is "originally."

Voice on Touhou = dead Touhou.

>> No.5524753

I read the first 2 chapters of SSIB

I would have read further, but my eyes were bleeding, my brain was boiling, and my retina had detached due to ZUN attempting to write a plot and Aki Eda attempting to art

>> No.5524761

>>5524753
And in nothing value is lost.

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>>5524718

'Sup, samefag?

And people wonder why /jp/ is one of the most looked-down-upon boards...

>> No.5524770

>>5524753
It gets much worse. Don't even bother reading it.

>> No.5524771

>>5524677
When she said "the most beautiful one wins", first of all, she means beautiful as in the ability to produce beautiful danmaku patterns. And besides, they're goddamn anime characters, they all look the same anyways. There's no point in saying one of them is any prettier than another.

Secondly, the only reason whatsherface the moon princess one was because she used magic to fight on a conceptual level, not on a bullet-dodging level, which nobody anticipated. She wasn't fighting in the way people expected her to fight, which is why she won. So despite winning, she actually doesn't outrank any of the characters in fighting ability in any real way.

Also, danmaku battles go either way all the time, that's the point of using it as a conflict resolution system.

Also, I have no idea what you're talking about with the Master Spark, it's not an all-conquering attack and you shouldn't make that big a deal out of it. Just because it's a hilarious giant death laser that takes up the entire screen doesn't make it an actual unstoppable force. I mean, bosses survive it when you use it as a bomb, right?

And Marisa calling it quits after using up all her spellcards is pretty much how it works in Touhou anyways, doesn't it? She basically got timed out. Given that all of her attacks are centered on lasers or stars, and both of those were countered, it's not that big a deal anyways. Given experience with the moon princess's fighting style, I'm sure all of them could easily win.

>> No.5524772

>>5524684
>>implying
>reaction images
>u mad

Go back to /a/, /b/ or /v/, please.

>> No.5524779

>>5524731
The hell are you talking about?

>> No.5524781

>>5524779
Something a child can't understand.

>> No.5524791

>>5524772

What? Are you really that bothered by a single person using the terminology of other boards?

I for one think that /jp/ would be a better place if it actually accepted others.

>> No.5524819

>>5524781
Fine, fine, I'll elaborate.

Touhou fans (and doujin fans in general) are used to treating every story as only one possible perspective on a character or set of characters. It's true that everyone has their own opinions about what a certain character sounds like, but they also have their opinions about what certain characters say or act like, which are contradicted by at least half of the doujins out there at any given time. An unofficial Touhou anime would have exactly the same impact.

And as that other guy pointed out, drama CDs have given voices to the characters already.

>> No.5524822

>>5524791
I for one, think that accepting others is one of the primary sources of troubles on earth.
If we all stopped accepting each other, everything would be fucking fine.

>> No.5524833

>>5524707
Doujins cost money. Someone buying a doujin hands the artist 500 yen or so. Maybe more or less, I don't keep track of doujin costs because I cannot buy any. That money.

Plus, the bonus to reputation. That's probably more important than the actual money.

>> No.5524841 [DELETED] 

>>5524791
Stop trying to turn this into a meta thread. Go to the ghost board and discuss it there.

>>5524765
I'm not sure if you think you're funny or if you think you're trolling someone with your strange behavior, but you're not. You're annoying in the sense that your off topic remarks are creating clutter. This is the last attention you'll receive from me. In a few minutes I will delete all of my responses to you in order to clean this thread. I suggest the other Anon to do the same.

>> No.5524875

>>5524841
I'm not the guy you were talking to, but how do you expect people to discuss things on the ghost board when they may not know where it is?

>> No.5524904 [DELETED] 

>>5524875
Everyone knows what the ghost board is.

>> No.5524910

>>5524833

Around 500, yeah. On average, a 500 yen doujin costs roughly 200-300 to produce. They have to buy the paper, ink, pens, and then send it off to a printer. Then they have to pay the table fee. That leads to a large cost which is (usually) made up at the convention. Doujins stand to make very little money, and whatever money is made is spent quickly afterwards. Profit is very little. As I said, many break even or make only enough to celebrate a successful con that night with friends. A few don't sell well at all, and lose money from the ordeal. Doesn't stop them from celebrating the fact that it sold at all.

>> No.5524911

>>5524904
I understand a desire to keep it free of stupid people, but how do you propose to segregate discussion when the people doing the discussing don't know how?

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How about an anime entirely about these two.

>> No.5524959

>>5524910
You mentioned a few people made serious profit. Just tell me who those people are so I can stop guessing.

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>>5524944

Why give them an anime? They already have a show.

>> No.5525006

>>5524959

They stop doing the con thing if they end up being ridiculously popular.

CLAMP is one example.

>> No.5525011

Yeah, a Touhou anime would have to be a fairly lengthy jack of all trades.

Action, quirky comedy, yuri, and dark drama.

And they'd probably either have to invent a villain group that needs to be killed off or risk pissing off the fans by offing existing characters. We all know how wrong that can go.

Shaft could probably pull it off if they were willing to put money into the action scenes.

>> No.5525058

>>5525011
Actually, if ZUN were to do it, you could drop the yuri and quirky comedy.

>> No.5525079

You're wrong.
The budget needed would be enormous? Why?

Doomed to ruin? It would be billed under one of the biggest franchise names in Japan popculture. If anything it would be like creating a movie based on a popular video game: no matter how horrible it was it will succeed by power of name alone. You know this is true, because every single person here would watch it no matter what, just out of curiosity or obsession alone.

No depiction would satisfy most fans? Fans are never fully satisfied. People criticize Evangelion even. Also remember, raging neckbeards of /jp/ != even a fraction of the fanbase of Touhou. AND, to top it off, /jp/ is also full of pretenders, jokers, and some very vocal minorities as well. Many people here actually have liked the various official manga, and many even like Kinema Kan and the Maikaze attempts.

An official Touhou anime would probably be granted a pretty solid budget and would succeed quite well.

>> No.5525089

>>5525011
Or you could do a Spirited Away sort of thing with an outsider who comes to Gensokyo and has to be chased off by random youkai.

>> No.5525103

>>5523246

An excellent post. Unfortunately, I must agree with you. I mean, it must seem like a no-brainer to industry people but there is literally NO STUDIO that I would trust with a Touhou anime. It would undoubtedly be generically moé-fied and the scope of the source material would never get captured. The anime industry would just be making an attempt at a quick buck and the story, as well as all of us would suffer for it.

>> No.5525111

>>5525103
Not the guy you were talking to. I think you're just being mistrustful of humanity.

>> No.5525123

>>5525089

>Or you could do a Spirited Away sort of thing with an outsider who comes to Gensokyo and has to be chased off by random youkai

Bonus points if it's a fat white neckbeard.

>> No.5525139

>>5525123
Oh god, that would be wonderful.

>> No.5525163

>>5525103
>and the scope of the source material would never get captured.
Oh shut up, you say that as if ZUN is a good writer. Touhou will only be good if ZUN is NOT involved. I'm not saying they should change the characters, I'm just saying we have to be honest. ZUN is many things, but storyteller isn't one of them.

>> No.5525167

>>5525123
It's MiG all over again!

>> No.5525168

>>5525111

I most certainly am and even more acutely so towards any type of environment where people are trying to make money off of the back of art. Listen, I'm not one of those jaded dudes that hates all modern anime or anything. There are always a couple shows every season that I dig. It's just this particular outing could proved too disastrous to bear. I would rather be satisfied with the games and manga where there is more control given to the creator.

>> No.5525169

>>5525163
Honestly, I'd prefer a story set in ZUN's super-serious Gensokyo to a moe moe one.

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>>5525163

>> No.5525174

>>5525139

Oh, good. I was hoping no one would get angry at me and say "WELL I HOPE IT'S A NIGGER THAT ENDS UP IN GENSOKYO".

Not that it would make sense. Niggers are too superstitious for that. Can you even picture a black man walking into Gap Bitch's gap? Hell, he'd jump over the fence and run away.

And anyway, there's no fried chicken in Gensokyo.

>> No.5525184

>>5525174
why are black people always associated with chicken and watermelon

>> No.5525194

>>5525184

Chicken is tasty.

>> No.5525197

>>5525163

Dude, have you even read the canon manga? I'm not saying there aren't flaws but the product is definitely worth more than the sum of its parts.

>> No.5525270

>>5525197
It's BECAUSE I read the "canon manga" that I said such things. This [>>5523564] is what I would want in a Touhou anime.

Drunkards in Eientei, Reborn from Omega, and Why did she Leave the Miniature Garden are just a few examples of fans writing better stories than ZUN. ZUN's good at writing details about his character but he's not good at important stuff like romance, comedy, and drama. To say ZUN must be at the helm of any project not related to gameplay is just silly. ZUN is a terrible storyteller.

>>5525173
Did you save that image from /a/ or /b/? And here I was thinking you weren't "troll tripfriend #2335." Any more hilarious macros you want to share with us?

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>>5525197
>the product is definitely worth more than the sum of its parts.

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Say what you will about ZUN's writing ability, but I really like Rinnosuke and find him an engaging character.

>> No.5525310

>>5525298

ZUN writes just fine.

Anonymous is just mad that ZUN won't have the touhous fucking each other with oversized dicks in the canon anime.

>> No.5525315

>>5525310
Why would anyone be mad about that? Porn anime is awful with absolutely no exceptions.

>> No.5525432

>>5525298
I never liked Rinnosuke, but it might just be the way Japanese writing translates into English.

>> No.5525460

>>5525432

I always thought Rinnosuke was a cool dude with whom you could drink coffee and smoke cigarettes with.

>> No.5525465

>>5525432
I don't think so. He's just that sort of guy.

>> No.5525807

>>5525465
>>5525460
>>5525432
He is just plain unpopular, with a store in a ill place.

>> No.5525843

>>5525807
Reimu is just plain unpopular, with a shrine in a ill place.

>> No.5525852

>>5525315
I don't know about that; I quite liked Hatsukoi- I felt it was a fairly decent story-wise H anime even without the ero.

>> No.5526116

I'm seeing a few (ok maybe just one or two) people in this thread act like canon touhou is grimdark and I'm wondering how.

And no don't give me that 'youkai eat humans sometimes but not really anymore' shit. Not saying it should be moe bullshit but it's not even close to being dark. ZUN's writing is more dry humor than anything. Girls in frilly dresses playing the magical equivalent of paintball in place of fighting isn't dark either.

Not saying a Touhou anime must be entirely tied down by canon, but honestly, any grimdark stuff would just end up looking retarded and 'edgy'. You might as well leave the more serious stuff to characters and settings that can actually pull it off without looking like a joke.

>> No.5526152

>>5526116
Shut up you yuri watching tea-bagger. Go watch K-ON if you want to see a bunch of girls doing mundane stuff.

A life is what you should invest in. I heard it's valuable.

>> No.5526199

>>5526116
Perfect Cherry Blossom. Grimdark background story. Even what Yuyuko says as jokes on other games make me wince. I guess that after being dead so long she no longer cares. Or remembers.

>> No.5526367

>>5523267
kyoani

>> No.5526402

>>5526199
what she say that make you wince?

>> No.5526437

>>5526116
It would be grimdark if not for the spellcard rules.

>> No.5526633

A touhou anime would only be mildly successful at best, much like most other animes based on a game

>> No.5526644

>>5526633

>Other anime based on a game

>Clannad

>> No.5526658

>>5526644
way to leave out the word "most" when you quoted that post

>> No.5528181

>>5526633
But Clannad sucked, so yeah.

No, Key writing is not good writing.

>> No.5528255

>>5526152
Why are you so mad, Anonymous?

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