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5492192 No.5492192 [Reply] [Original]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread587996/pg1

"The only people who think making other peoples efforts free to everyone else is a good idea are the kind of people who sit on their backsides and contribute nothing in the first place."

Do you agree with this thread? When you download a VN, do you understand that it's illegal but don't care, or are you one of those morons who actually thinks it's your RIGHT to do so?

>> No.5492200

I download and don't care.

There is not such a thing as "right".

>> No.5492199

Yes.

>> No.5492207

I know it's illegal. I don't care.

>> No.5492202

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
reported

>> No.5492211

manchildren realizing people are amoral in general

>> No.5492212

Naturally I import all my VNs.

>> No.5492216

I feel kinda guilty if it's a small company. I feel a sense of satisfaction if it's shit like EA.

>> No.5492218
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>"The only people who think making other peoples efforts free to everyone else is a good idea are the kind of people who sit on their backsides and contribute nothing in the first place."

This is a completely accurate statement that every fag on /jp/ has come to accept. Anybody who overreacts is a newfag.

>> No.5492225

>>5492192

Alice is so cute when she's drunk.

>> No.5492226

Maybe I download all my stuff because I'm protesting against consumerism.

Just kidding, I actually buy a lot of stuff. You can't fault me for pirating Japanese shit I don't have the opportunity to buy unless you're some brainwashed faggot.

>> No.5492227

>"The only people who think making other peoples efforts free to everyone else is a good idea are the kind of people who sit on their backsides and contribute nothing in the first place."
Yes, I agree.

>> No.5492228

>>5492218
It's true. I can't agree with things like the Mickey Mouse act, though.

>> No.5492234

I download VNs because they are not offer to me locally. And the effort and heavily inflated pricetag is not worth it.

>> No.5492240

I think that "copyright" and "intellectual property" are complete bullshit in the case of a person making a copy for their own use.

Of course, it doesn't matter what I think, laws are laws so of course my actions are illegal. But there's no moral justification behind those laws, and I'm not going to get caught, so there's absolutely no reason to obey them.

>> No.5492246

I wish I had the income to support every company that has made good work, but that's just another thing that goes with being a NEET. I don't have the money to spend and because there is always the option not to spend it I can't see myself ever changing.

>> No.5492254

Should we burn down libraries too?

>> No.5492249

I realize it's bad and I feel guilty, but I could in no way afford the import expenses.
As long as I can download for free I'm happy, but I don't make a fuss when producers block their sites or introduce DRM since it's in their rights to do so and I'd do the same if I were in their shoes.
I just download because otherwise I wouldn't be able to play and would probably have to read boring books to improve my japanese.

>> No.5492263

>The only people who think making other peoples efforts free to everyone else is a good idea are the kind of people who sit on their backsides and contribute nothing in the first place.
Sounds just like /jp/.

A large part of copyright law is bullshit designed to protect the interests of large corporations anyway, so I don't feel too guilty about stabbing people in the back when they're doing their best to do the same to me. Life + 70 years my. fuckin. ass.

>> No.5492265

>>5492254
Libraries do pay for the books they lend out, you know.

>> No.5492267

>>5492240
I feel the same way about recreational substances.

>> No.5492282

>>5492265
So if you buy something and put it up for download, is it legal?

>> No.5492308

>>5492240

>and I'm not going to get caught

Quick, somebody call the FBI and link them to this thread (inb4 Jones is some sort of third-world country faggot where everything he does is somehow legal)

>> No.5492309

>>5492265
Not in my country.

I firmly believe that everything non-physical should be free, too.

I'm fine with paying a small sum for a medium, like a physical CD or physical book, as long as I'm able to get its content for free in form of bytes. And if I want to support author, I want a direct way of doing so, instead of participating in the farce that is happening now.

>> No.5492312

>>5492192
Of course it's illegal. I don't care as long as I don't get caught though.

>> No.5492318

DO WHAT YOU WANT, CUZ A PIRATE IS FREE. YOU ARE A PIRATE!

>> No.5492329

>>5492308
>implying fbi gives a fuck

>> No.5492336

>>5492329

It's the end of the month. They have a quota to fill. :)

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>>5492318

IF YOU LOVE CELIBACY, YOU ARE A PIRATE!

>> No.5492353

yar har tiddly-tee bein a pedo is awwwrite by me

>> No.5492359

whip out your dick en rape some lol-e

>> No.5492366

>>5492265
We pay for our internet.

>> No.5492374

>>5492263
>Life + 70 years my. fuckin. ass.

This is also to prevent people making Disney-sequels of everything.

>> No.5492372

>>5492366

You do? LOL.

>> No.5492394

>>5492282
>>5492366
This.
We paid you twice already, fucking copytards, so fuck off.

>> No.5492404

>>5492192

After the C&Ds Minori pulled, I now download in the hopes that the companies will crash and burn. No way I'd want xenophobic pricks like them to exist. They have attacked us, therefore it is our right to retaliate.

How's that for a "right" to download, moralfag?

>> No.5492412

>>5492374
No, it's to prevent companies from losing profit even after the artist/author/whatever keels over and you're not supporting shit other than greedy executives by buying the product.

>> No.5492421

>It is funny though how kids grow up getting told by hollywood and nickalodeon that pirates are glamorous, sexy, good, from Lazytown tv show to Pirates of the Caribbean. Then when they get older and do pirate they get condemned. good catch-22 system.

THE CONSPIRACY FOLK ARE WATCHING THIS THREAD GUYS

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>>5492421

Hmm

>> No.5492446

>>5492412
Yeah huh, enjoy every fan fiction of every story you love becoming legal and indisputable canon, since you can't argue for the creator being the only one who gets to command the story.

>> No.5492451

>>5492446
I don't give a shit about canon and I dispute it anyway

>> No.5492458

>>5492394
>>5492366
>>5492282
No, you're wrong. The moralfag seems to have left, so I'll reply instead. With libraries, it's assured that one book at any moment is never used by more than one person. Copying and distributing works in digital format is very different, since one paid item gets used by hundreds of thousands. You either support moralfags and say that sharing is completely wrong, or join me (I posted >>5492309) and choose to believe that information must be free.

>> No.5492466

>>5492446

That already happens. How many stories about Touhous do you hear on /jp/ nowaday that people believe have some actual basis in the games and/or ZUN-directed manga, yet are COMPLETELY fan-made? Even worse, faggots who KNOW it's 100% fan-made still troll and argue that it's canon.

The Internet is scum, and /jp/ is a trash can. There is no disputing this.

>> No.5492471

>>5492421
How is this related to catch 22?

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>>5492466

>The Internet is scum, and /jp/ is a trash can. There is no disputing this.

I don't recall anybody arguing against this. We all know this and accept it.

>> No.5492482

>>5492446
I don't see what's wrong with this. It's only up to you to choose what to read. Let some ignore fanfics, let other enjoy them.

>> No.5492486

This board is disgusting.

>> No.5492487

>>5492458
>Everything has to be black/white because I'm only capable of understanding the world in extremes
People need access to information but if everything was free then entertainment, multimedia AND professionally-compiled information would have no reason to exist because nobody would get PAID for bothering to make it.

People stop doing things when they aren't PAID for it.

>> No.5492492

>>5492446
Obviously a terrible problem for all the works that have already passed out of copyright. By that logic, I can add a canon story to the Bible, except, no wait, no one would believe it.

>> No.5492491

>>5492458
>implying that everyone who downloads the copy will be using it at the same time
>implying that everyone who downloads the copy will be using it all the time

>> No.5492497

>>5492487
>People stop doing things when they aren't PAID for it.
A huge portion of open source software projects disagree with you.

>> No.5492500

Society is a pulsating, throbbing organ that cannot help but continuously ejaculate over the body of mankind. Sure, topics might change in order of relevance, but it's all just masturbation. Copyright arguments are the same, useless, wasted sperm left over after the deed has already been done.

>> No.5492502

>>5492487

>People stop doing things when they aren't PAID for it.

Again, that's not black and white. If everybody no longer had to worry about money, I'd create tons of stuff for free.

>> No.5492503

>>5492487
>the capitalist argument

although I do agree with you for the most part, the only part I don't agree with is getting paid doesn't always mean money

>> No.5492505

>>5492492
If you got enough old men in the Vatican or where-ever to agree you could pass off Kaguya VS Mokou as a new book of the bible and everyone would believe it.

>> No.5492506

>>5492502
The Star Trek economy. That would be awesome

>> No.5492506,1 [INTERNAL] 

Oh, right, all the /b/ spam gets to stay but valid offtopic discussion has to go. Nice 4chan.

>> No.5492506,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>5492506,1
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5391/11237129487.jpg

>> No.5492506,3 [INTERNAL] 

Capitalist pigs!

>> No.5492506,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>5492506,1
>valid offtopic
Cool oxymoron.

>> No.5492506,5 [INTERNAL] 

Ah, the time (just) before wayq took off

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