/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[VDZ !!rgagiJWO7jv No.]

[02:15] <~Moogy> protip, VDZ
[02:15] <~Moogy> one of the C&Ds has already resulted in an official partnership with MG
[02:15] <~Moogy> from the company involved
[02:15] <~Moogy> so why don't you go fuck yourself
[02:16] <VDZ> Huh? What company is that?
[02:16] <~Moogy> why the fuck would i tell you?
[02:16] <~Moogy> wait until aX
[02:16] <~Moogy> *AX

Well then, let's narrow that down a little. C&Ds so far (not including the Dark Translations stuff):

Akabeisoft2: G-Senjou no Maou, Concerto Note, Akatsuki no Goei, ~Pantsu wo Miseru koto, Sore ga...~ Daiuchuu no Hokori

Cuffs: Yosuga no Sora

Giga!: Baldr Force EXE, Parfait

Gungnir:Cartagra, Kara no Shoujo

Minori: ef, eden*

Softpal: Flyable Heart

upset: Hime x Hime, Pastel

We can exclude Minori as we know them to be xenophobes and eden* wasn't going anywhere, and we can also exclude Gungnir as Kara no Shoujo was released despite the C&D. The editor for Yosuga no Sora knows nothing about a partnership, so we can rule that out as well. This leaves us with G-Senjou, Concerto Note, Akatsuki no Goei, Pantsu, BFE, Parfait, Flyable Heart, Hime x Hime and Pastel.

Considering the progress of said projects, pic most likely related.

[Anonymous No.]

spoilers: It's Giga and Fungi will be working with them to translate

[masat01 !FR0hP.YNx. No.]

>>5412832
Awww, I was hoping Little Busters! would be taken down so KEY could partner up.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

tldr; MG and AKB2 partnership

[Anonymous No.]

...Eh? G-Senjou hasn't been C&D'd yet. It's still going strong.

[Anonymous No.]

Moogy is such a faggot.

[VDZ !!rgagiJWO7jv No.]

>>5412853
Key can partner up even without sending C&Ds. MangaGamer has hinted about talks with Key, but we'll find out about that at AX, I guess.

>>5412849
Also a very likely possibility. However, Baldr Force's project hasn't made all that much progress yet, as far as I know.

[Anonymous No.]

Also, when exactly was Kara no Shoujo released? It's still in editing hell.

...Is this thread from the future or something?

[masat01 !FR0hP.YNx. No.]

>>5412870
This

[Anonymous No.]

[20:43:30] <@TinFoil> oye oye, VDZ.
[20:43:38] <@TinFoil> way to look Moogy look like a total ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>moogy
>masat01
>VDZ

[VDZ !!rgagiJWO7jv No.]

>>5412869
http://novelnews.net/2010/06/13/more-correspondence-from-akabeisoft2/
Akabeisoft also sent another C&D, http://novelnews.net/2010/05/29/anime-novel-receives-cds
I find it strange that they haven't C&Ded the largest site, TLWiki, yet.

[Anonymous No.]

was Moogy that guy in those Donkey Kong Country LPs?

[Kilga M. Aya~n !2BklmILFiE No.]

>>5412909

If you're talking about Kefit's DKC3 LPs, then yes.

[Anonymous No.]

FH was taken down by Moogy, not C&D afaik

[Tripfag McGee !NHqdxYQAec No.]

Why do people listen to Moogy anyway?

[masat01 !FR0hP.YNx. No.]

>>5412904
No

and umad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412908

Then why the fuck hasn't Moogy had the project taken down yet when he's complied with every other C&D out there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412924
How do they listen to him?

[Anonymous No.]

Moogy is destroying the VN fanbase. What a faggot.

[Moogy !w95Lx5ro/w No.]

>>5412922
yeah bro I just deleted that shit because I didn't like it

http://privatepaste.com/2daaf1ece2

[uguu !/89LMFkIFg No.]

>>5412924
He is hard not to listen to. He always whines.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>5412904

VDZ is a musicbro but I don't know who those other fatties are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412938
>implying FH is shit

[Anonymous No.]

What.

What the fuck is going on in this thread. My brain is full of fuck.

Trolls, trolls everywhere.

[uguu !/89LMFkIFg No.]

>>5412944
>doesn't know who masat01 is
>doesn't know who moogy is
Oh you're a great troll buddy

[VDZ !!rgagiJWO7jv No.]

>>5412886
My bad, I thought it had been release already. I guess this might change things as well.

>>5412924
Because he's the owner of TLWiki, and has some good contacts. Chances are he knows when a fan translation project turns into an official translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412924
He's one of the fansub Mother Brains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412957
Why are masato and moogy faggots that fuck each other?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412935
he's moogy-dono, pic related

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412957

Look. KnS is still getting a release and G-Senjou hasn't been touched yet, and the only other projects on your list that got taken down from TLWiki are Flyable Heart and Baldr Force.

That means it's probably one of those two things.

[Anonymous No.]

I prefer that jpmeetup drama shit to this "serious business, real money involved" faggotry

[Moogy !w95Lx5ro/w No.]

>>5412967
なんという光栄です！！！

[Anonymous No.]

I'm actually suspecting Flyable Heart given the overall tone of MG's releases.

[masat01 !FR0hP.YNx. No.]

>>5412986
>masat01 his tool
Fucking sweet. This means moogy and I have a great relationship
>likes loli pussy
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412937
How? If it's by complying with C&D's, then that doesn't matter since he isn't forcing anyone not to continue. If it's by working with the official companies to bring official localizations, then that still gives you VNs to read. What exactly is the problem?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>5412956

No idea who they are, and my previous point of them being fat still stands.

[Anonymous No.]

It's giga. I'm pretty certain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412999
/jp/ agreed that the TLwiki translator for Flyable Heart was shit, so a partnership with them probably wouldn't yield anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413022

I've said before, but the progress pages on TLWiki force accountability onto the translators.

If they're forced to go underground, where there is no opportunity to gain e-penis, they will eventually get bored and abandon the project.

And then Kara no Shoujo was never released.

[masat01 !FR0hP.YNx. No.]

>>5413023
>fat

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413048

Then it's Baldr Force. Good, I hear everyone was looking forward to that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413016
it means you are only a tool, and can be replaced at any moment

[Tripfag McGee !NHqdxYQAec No.]

>>5412957
I get that much, but why give a shit about what he has to say? You can't seriously mean that being the founder of a wiki makes his calls mean anything beyond what value people give it themselves, seeing as how all of his opinions on everything is terrible.

[Fungi !RpxDCBm.c. No.]

:)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412986
Where's the Witch Hunt? They aren't part of Moogy's clever plan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413049
Okay, so to fix this, all they have to do is port the project to an un-C&D'able wiki or some other sort of public storage with version control.
But, you see, the problem with that isn't in TLWiki, it's in the translators: if they got C&D'd, most translators will either continue or stop, those that will continue, will like to give the impression that they stopped to the companies by going underground. If you can manage to get the translators to continue the project publictly, you'll get what you want, but the problem here is that they probably won't want to do it, because they want to have the eroge companies think they stopped, so they'd leave them alone. Maybe in some cases, like shown in the OP, the translators might even get a gig with a localization company and finish the game commercially. It's not as simple as it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

I refuse to believe that the people in this thread are the real masat0, Fungi, and Moogy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413090
do a new and more full version if you want to, there was actually anoter one before that, pic related, that's it

[Anonymous No.]

Fungi is too busy playing Team Fortress 2 to translate, leave him alone.

[masat01 !FR0hP.YNx. No.]

>>5413097
seriously?

[VDZ !!rgagiJWO7jv No.]

>>5413097
Masat01 confirmed, as can be seen by his tripcode. Moogy and Fungi were also following this thread, so it's possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413097
<masarchto> http://images.4chan.org/jp/src/1276908782311.jpg
<masarchto> what
<masarchto> the
<masarchto> fuck
<Kyon_Geass1> old pic is old
<+VDZ> I prefer the original pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413133
Aeris dies

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413127
I like this. Someone whould make a VN about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413133

Tripcodes are meaningless. Look at all the White Rens.

[Anonymous No.]

So, is it really moogy who does the weekly VN translation status thread?

[Anonymous No.]

tlwiki is the cancer that killed visual novels

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413159
No, that's dan. Completely different person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413161
Dan Kim?

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is with all the trolls in this thread!?

I'm slowly becoming convinced that I'm the only person here who ISN'T trolling.

...Help?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413172
dan88.

[Anonymous No.]

I never quite understood why masat01 was considered Moogy's tool, when Moogy personally banned him half a year ago from #tlwiki for bringing newfriends to the channel or trolling too hard. I'll never know...

[Anonymous No.]

>G-Senjou no Maou
>was mentioned in a C&D sent out to another game
Really? Do I missed that.

[Anonymous No.]

TLWiki is down, also.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413201
* Moogy changes topic to 'MORE DOWNTIME; server switchover

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413199
Obviously meant "Did"

[masat01 !FR0hP.YNx. No.]

>>5413193
Moogy is just a faggot. I wasn't trolling that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413224
You were just being faggot in general.

[Anonymous No.]

here is an updated one I made a while ago
it's shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413249
Updated again for IRC faggots. Simple minded fools.

[Anonymous No.]

If you're reading this SPIN. Fuck you and your shitty translation group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412828

WWＷ._aｎON_+_M_-_ｍ_+_taLK_.sｅ gc j bvljkcsvkrtki qt wf h uv lkxba dhuqaielnqw rnan aih x ist

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413330
No, I mean FUCK AMMY
I hate everyone in that channel!
Ixrec, Spin, Shitta, masat01, VDZ, moogy, nagato. FUCK ALL OF YOU

[Anonymous No.]

So much hate
Where's the love?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413384
They're too shy to show their love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413294
Why is Pacula there? Also isn't Chikan TLWiki translator? And who the hell are Kyon and Vodka?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413384
We're all tsundere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413391
That was made around December or so, I believe.

[Anonymous No.]

I think Giga is the most likely. It's also the one I'm hoping for.

>>5413398
Then where is the dere?

[Fungi !RpxDCBm.c. No.]

<3

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413412
in the deep of our hearts, somewhere you wont ever reach

[Anonymous No.]

Weren't Akabeisoft anti-gaijin like minori?
I doubt the license is from them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413557
Based on http://novelnews.net/2010/05/26/ip-blocks-revisited/

Looks like Akabeisoft2 is anti-gaijin.

[Anonymous No.]

I bet it's no Akabeisoft2
Concerto Note is too long...

[Anonymous No.]

http://novelnews.net/2010/05/26/ip-blocks-revisited/#comment-8042

This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413851
Each time I read that I laugh wholeheartedly. 10/10

[Anonymous No.]

Moogy is a fag for paying any attention at all to C&Ds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413856

I know how you feel. Really do.

[Tripfag McGee !NHqdxYQAec No.]

Moogy: Living every manchild's dream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412998
>です
Fag detected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5413294
>Updated again
>still MISTERIOUSLY
>my face

[Anonymous No.]

So exactly why is Moogy so unpopular?
What had he done that's so stupid?

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

And not a single shit was given.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5416897
Because he complies with C&Ds.
Because he 'sold out' to JAST.
Because he runs TLWiki.
Because he's like many of the 'elitists' on the gemot.
Because he exists.

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5416995
>gemot
>elitist

fight the power, you NNL bro you

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417006
There's a reason I put inverted commas around the word - maybe you should learn conversational English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417016
danger quotes are indistinguishable from normal quotes if you use apostrophes! you should use unicode-approved danger quotes

[Anonymous No.]

I hope it's Giga.

[Anonymous No.]

>Because he runs TLWiki.
The others I could understand, but this one?

[Anonymous No.]

Why the fuck would you ever comply to a C&D from another country? It's like living in america while voluntarily following australian law; goddamn retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417048
There's a few people on /jp/ hate translations in general. There's also a few that hate public translations and feel they're "attention-whoring" (nevermind that people never stopped bitching when we knew nothing about progress).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417054
What about respecting the author's wishes?
Can you call yourself a fan when you willingly disobey them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417073
Of course. NNL being Minori devs because they like Minori games, but they don't like the creators. Makes sense enough to me.

If they're officially going to bring over the games then I would respect the C&D.
If not, then their C&D can rot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417073
It's possible to like a work without respecting the author. This especially applies when dealing with an author like minori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417073
It's important to understand that an author who sends a C&D for a translation group most certainly does not respect your wishes, he is not your friend and deserves nothing from you.

[Anonymous No.]

oh shit....I fucking hope it's Giga

.....fapfapfapfap

[Anonymous No.]

Why would you hate translations?
This isn't like anime where there are like 5 to 10+ groups for each popular show.

Doesn't anyone remember how basically nothing got translated and the few things that got translated took years?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418085
Selfish elitistfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418085
/jp/ is a horrible hate machine.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey who says we should raid 2chan with translated VN pics?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418210
>>>/b/
That's where you should belong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418220
Eh, not him but.... /jp/' HAS raided places every once in awhile. And right now they ARE being faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418255
...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418255
It's hardly the whole board's fault. If they're so butthurt, why don't they do the same thing to anime and manga?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418255
So you want us to be faggots too?

[Anonymous No.]

Stupid question here but how would the C&D itself be the cause of a partnership? If anything, at best it would be correlated to a partnership if the company had already planned to seek one anyway. But if this is supposed to be a justification for blindly obeying them then it's a poor one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418310
Maybe somebody from the group get the genius idea of selling the translation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418310
Maybe somebody from the group got the genius idea of selling the translation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418310
You'll see the answer at AX.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait? No more translation for this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418344
>Wait? No more translation for this?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Derek No.]

Fuck, and G-Senjou is the only translated game I'm looking forwards to this year.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, and G-Senjou is the only translated game I'm looking forwards to this year.

[Anonymous No.]

I've already finished G-senjou so feel free to stop the translation project. Glorious Chinese pirates not giving a fuck to anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418375
Damn, Chinese and Koreans are so lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>Moogy
Faggot

>NNL
Diaf, all.

[reiserFS !Hc6EcVkstI No.]

>>5412832
Looks like Moogy is still being a faggot as usual.

[Anonymous No.]

G-Senjou dropped or continued underground?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418502
this
>>5413199
I am not quite sure what that means though, it was mentioned but nothing has been directed against it as far as I understand.

[Anonymous No.]

Newest chart. Updated and looks pretty

[masat01 !FR0hP.YNx. No.]

>>5418725
Why only include areas for people on the Amaterasu side of things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418759
UMAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412831

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[masat01 !FR0hP.YNx. No.]

>>5418777
No not really, it's just kinda scary

[Anonymous No.]

You guys blow everything out of proportion. You make it sound like the NWO, Illuminati and the Men in Black are involved, and your ass virginity is on the line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418725
Give it a theme or something. Maybe Gundam SEED this time?

[Anonymous No.]

Rather then spend your time following the world of translator drama, just learn Japanese and bypass all this crap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418814
... shadow? Is that you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418801

Heh, I took my own ass virginity a long time ago so no

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418814
I'm doing so, but it's going slowly and I really enjoyed G-senjou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418846
Masturbation does not count as sex, or everybody here would be lady/gentleman killers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418725
You...you... DOUBLE IXREC
also
>Recommends Absolut vodka.
pic related

[Anonymous No.]

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5362261#p5376166
That post of mine was deleted within hours.
Meido confirmed on Moogys paylist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418310
As far as I know, technically, they COULD sue them. But just because they can doesn't mean they will and Moogy is still a fag for complying.

Also, I have yet to see that any evidence of these C&D's being real. Did I miss it somewhere?

[Anonymous No.]

Penis.

[Anonymous No.]

It's gonna be Yosuga no Sora or eden*
moogy hinted at this partnership right after those two got taken down and before others were taken down

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412832
well, the Hime x Hime and Pastel C&Ds were the only ones that showed some hint of upset actually being interested in overseas marketing right now, so I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be them. Giga may also be a contender, as they have attempted to break the market in the past.

AKB2 and Minori are very unlikely, for obvious reasons.

No idea about the rest however.

Not sure about Cuffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412986
lol'd at the graph

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419111
It's just like when somebody pulls out a gun. Do you rush them, because even though they can shoot and kill you, they probably won't? Because there's a good chance that it's not even loaded? Hell no. You duck and hide and give the guy your wallet. You don't want to take that risk, even if it's small.

Same thing here. Even the smallest company probably has access to more money than you as an individual do. What if they really did sue you? Do you want to call their bluff on that? Fuck no. And for what? Some random faggots on the internet who don't really give a shit if you live or die? I know I wouldn't do it for your worthless asses, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

it'll be yosuga no sora

I'm calling it now

[Anonymous No.]

>>5412831

ｗwｗ._ａnOｎ_+_ｍ_-_m_+_ｔAＬＫ_.Ｓe nfkqbszg ktzhkudu sm haty alyze wilegzarghvsn

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419825
trueblooded incest, in my officially localized VN?
I don't think so, Tim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419857
it's illegal to actually commit the act, there's nothing illegal about fictional incest

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419876
That's besides the point, it's still somewhat a risky move. To many people, fictional incest is only one step below fictional rape, and look where that got things going...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419825
please be true !

[Anonymous No.]

I'll be laughing when all the VN translation groups are trolling about the C&Ds and they simultaneously release all the C&D'd translations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419795
>It's just like when somebody pulls out a gun.
No it's not. Your risk analysis sucks. Suing makes absolutely no sense for these companies. They'd have to go out of their way to hire a lawyer who's familiar with US law. And all for what? Squeezing $20 from some kid an ocean away? They won't even gain any theoretical "lost sales" because 1. They never planned to sell their games here anyway 2. Even if they were, TLWiki provides only a translation, not the game itself. Even if they don't like dirty gaijins touching their holy games, money talks and suing would be a money sink.

Plus, there's the principle of the whole thing. Starting public translations have always held an inherit risk. If you can't take the risk, then don't start it. Moogy can't seem to take it, and yet he's still trolling along not giving a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5420203
Also, has ANYONE even tried to verify the authenticity of the C&Ds?

[『五角场 ～之～ 无名氏』 No.]

>>5420203
>Moogy can't seem to take it, and yet he's still trolling along not giving a shit.
He is desperately trying to save face?

[SlashZero No.]

>>5419940

It's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5420222

Nope. Hell, the Akabei C&Ds were from two different sources.

I have a solution, though. Why not just remove G-Senjou's script files? Then the project can continue and Akabei will have no legal ground to stand on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419933
Uh, nowhere? Rape is still common in officially translated eroge. Also you can't say translating blood related incest is risky when it's never been done before (I wouldn't really count Princess Waltz) so there's no way of knowing what would happen. But I would assume that the people who follow eroge localizations are not the type of people who are offended by incest.

[Anonymous No.]

about Akabei, don't anybody find it weird they haven't C&D'd Syarin yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419933
are you like 15

fictional incest won't cause a shitstorm
there's nothing wrong with love

[Anonymous No.]

>>5420222
Yes, Moogy did. But if you don't think he's a reliable enough source, I can tell you that at least minori's is confirmed genuine. Let me see which others I can confirm...

[Anonymous No.]

59.106.13.14 confirmed for Gungnir.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5420337

Or why they haven't even targeted TLWiki to begin with?

Regardless, someone needs to contact the G-Senjou translator and convince them to continue even after the inevitable C&D.

[Anonymous No.]

Had the C&D in question been made public?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5420547

It was posted on Novelnews, so yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5420547
All of them except Flyable Heart's, I believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5420614
>>5412938

[Anonymous No.]

>>5420731
And [124.146.197.43] from the sender of that C&D resolves to Softpal, home company of Unison Shift, makers of FH.
All the emails Moogy reacted to are genuine. iirc he said somewhere he also got a bunch of fake C&D after that initial minori edit war. Genuine C&D letters started coming in after he ignored all of fake ones, so my guess is that the xenophobic guy started harassing the companies after going directly after Moogy failed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5420913

Shouldn't we ignore these C&Ds if they're basically the result of one arrogant xenophobe?

[Anonymous No.]

Are there many/any Chinese Localization Companies of Japanese VNs? If so, do they still localize fan translated VNs?
I'm just curious considering the large amount that have already been done by the Chinese fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5420946
Ignoring them won't solve anything.
Translators should talk to companies instead and explain that they are translating because a) they are fans of their games and b) there a demand for the translations of their games.
If company still acts like a dick, THEN ignoring them NNL-style is justified.
Otherwise, partnership like the one in the OP might happen. Or at least companies might see that we are open for discussion, unlike that xenophobic guy, which might make them change their attitude in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

Too many people know about these Wiki's now, especially TLWiki.
Don't use them.

OTOH, if the climate is going to change that the VN companies actually want to convert their games to English, it'd be nice to know

[Anonymous No.]

>>5421015
>Don't ignore them, ask for money first and if they refuse to pay, only then ignore them.
Brilliant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5421015
I think this would be the best solution to the whole C&D mess, of course if the translator just loses all of his drive due to the author going against it, that's another story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5421220

Well, that's called "being a moralfag and why are you translating something in the first place if you're afraid of legal action".

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418725
Looking at this chart, it appears as if NNL is at a disadvantage... I wonder how things will develop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5421169
Brilliant

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

I'm the real White Ren, and I know who the people mentioned are, but I reiterate my impostors' point that they're fat, and that nobody should give a shit in the first place.

Except about VDZ, because VDZ is a real bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5421609
How do you know they are fat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5421609
A real, fat, bro.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>5421634
I am all knowing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5421609
get a new trip fag

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>5421654
Are you suffering emotionally from antagonistic feelings?